that’s what i’m talking about. and the fact that it’s video also is great. visuals. facial expressions. learn about different games and Ryan talking about the tech side of games. really great pod. if you’re not i definitely recommend their Patreon for the other episodes.
You're really missing out on RDR2, Mike. I too wasn't enjoying the slow pacing at the start but it really becomes so fucking amazing that I'm glad I stuck it out and I always always recommend others do the same. It really is worth it. Luckily, the camp stuff is like 1% of the game anyway.
I am the only guy on the internet who doesnt like RDR2 at all. Gameplay is so weak, every mission is so scripted, to me its a game where you can just watch playtrhough on youtube and you wont miss anything, and if you can say that about the game, that game has failed. Amazing story and characters, but not an amazing game, its just a good cutscenes and dialogue put in a terrible game.
@@TheRealUcanUwill Lol..you may not be the only one, but you are one of the very, very few.. How in the world does it have weak gameplay? It improves on RDR in every single way. What did you expect from a western shooter? How could it possibly be any better than what it already is? I'm not really sure what you needed, it is fantastic. I'm really curious to hear how the gameplay could be better. Sounds like it's just not your type of game, which is fine. Sucks you didn't like it, but those are some really strange criticisms. Even Mike would love the gameplay as it improved on RDR (which he loves) in every single way. And you don't want scripted missions? How would that work?
@@jupi_jupi I played it on console with a controller, and for starters, aiming and shooting is terrible, you rely on aim assist so much you barely play the game at that point. Missions are very linear, you only suppose to do one thing and if you do anything different, its game over. Like that oil tank train robbery mission kills me. At first I spend several minutes driving an oil tank, I mean its half of what you do in that damn game, but its good so far, its good dialogue. But then I rob the train, and by rob, I mean I walk down the wagon with my gun out. I was walking, some bitch started talking shit, I thought I will have none of this - shot her in a face. Guess what, its game over, I didnt suppose to do that, I only supposed to walk. Why is that part even interactive then, its a f'ing walking simulation. Cutscenes and story are the only parts that hold up in that game. What can the game do better? Everything? They focused on developing useless crap thats useless. Like why it needs 5 second animation to loot a body, how does it make game better? Why does it need shrinking horse balls and stuff like that that adds nothing to the game. Which game is better, Witcher 3, a game with multiple endings and choices or game where you so on rails its insulting? Which game is better, Witcher 3, when you kill something, you press a button to loot, loot is in your inventory. Versus a game you kill someone, you press loot, to watch Arthur go through every pocket of a f'ing dead guy. Which game is better, Witcher 3, where you can just call your horse at any time and do not fall from it when you crash a tree, versus RDR2 where you can't call your horse if its far away and you fall from it after every crash? Rockstar focused on ''realism'' instead of making game, I dont know, fun to play. Making maybe some choice in a game, so you would feel like your playthrough is unique to you or something like that. Shooting is still not improved from San Andreas days. Rockstar claim they try to make the leaps from title to title, but in reality, the only improvemtn from their games are the graphics and animations. San Andreas is still a better game to this day and it came out like 20 years ago by now. It is just self indulging garbage. Boring as crap, my opinion.
Well known Wild West video games: Red dead, wild guns, wild arms, sunset riders, moo mesa, gunman Clive, god hand, samurai western, Lone Ranger, cowboy kid,
Wow this was a amazing episode Ryan’s rant was amazing and Mike problem with RDR beginnings is the same for me for Fallout 3 I love it but man the first 15min is rough
There is a great animation on RUclips called Diablol. It's about how it felt to experience Diablo 1 and 2 when they came out. Very funny, highly recommended.
When Mike and Ryan were talking about microtransactions in games and time based stuff like waiting 8 hours for something to happen, it made me think of Seaman and how its not the best game to stream. I thought of a partial solution for that- dedicate one camera for seaman and have that going for weeks at a time and see what content you could get out of it while playing other games. Probably not worth doing in the end, but it is Leonard Nimoy. It might be funny.
I love the realism of rdr2. I always walked everywhere, unless in danger. I love how it's realistic, as Ryan said, you wouldn't run around like link. This is actually a deal braker for me and I think Rockstar know this also, people don't want arcades anymore, they wana play films. Last Of us and Red dead success reflects this. I understand that it would be good to have the option to walk or run thus giving everyone the chance to play how they like but personally I think rdr2 is much better than rdr1.
I enjoyed this, but Mike... you're dead wrong about RDR2. Get through the beginning. They want players to take their time. It's the most immersive and breathtaking game I've ever played. Walk, don't sprint. Take in the dialogue, the plethora of tiny details. You're cheating yourself out of a unique gaming experience.
25:15 Ye, there is a good game in there. It's called Diablo 3 Eternal Collection. Just play that instead. (Even the console versions are really cool, amazing ports! I kinda prefer them)
This is what happens when the profit motive replaces every other motivation or incentive for human enterprise. A game that's made because its creators were in love with the idea and vision will offer something even if it's ultimately a bad game, while a game that's made solely because it promises profit will be a soulless husk no matter its production value. Capitalism is to blame for the corruption of music, cinema, and gaming.
When I played Red Dead redemption the first time I quit after about 10 to 15 hours it just seemed so repetitive. The second one has really pulled me in.
Mike be aware that Undead Nightmare is a very broken game. The worst glitch that game has, which happens way too often even during missions, is that zombies spawn without heads. Wouldn't be so bad if headshots weren't the only way to kill them. So sometimes missions become unbeatable and you have to reload your save to fix it.
@@flutebasket4294 idk..I just don't spend money on it and it's a good game for what it is. It's not a full fledged diablo game and was never meant to be. Js
Loved Diablo I, the atmosphere was just awesome! Also had the Hellfire expansion (which was tough and not as well balanced in my opinion, but anyway fun to play). Enjoyed LAN sessions with Diablo II after that. But never looked into any other Diablo after that. And somehow I feel I should revisit Diablo I instead :-D
Dude, zero money dropped, have a job, have 2 kids, house, 2 cars, a dog (=not a lot free time), played through the campaign, will probably finish battle pass this season, only paragon 24, anyway last two bosses were awesome, it is worth to play through the campaign just to challenge Zaka and Skarn with selffound gear.
The biggest irony is I got an ad for Evony while watching Ryan rant about app games lol. Evony is such a lie. And I’ve played a lot of app games. Haven’t played Diablo immortal, but I’ve played games with the same problems. I can see exactly what needs to be done to fix the game, but it’ll never happen. And meanwhile people are pumping thousands of $ into it
People put in 20 grand. Some meat head gym streamer dropped 300 bucks so he could pvp. Was playing a Warrior cyclone build. His damage sucked and he kept saying he was focused on tanking to help his group but was being smashed to hell or running away away to bandage himself. Was so boring
I know it's unrelated but I don't like it when Nintendo keeps asking me to sub everytime I finish the first stage of Streets of rage 4. I know it's not as annoying as Immortal but...damn it.
i don't put any money in half of f2p games because i plan to play them for years instead of burn through them by buying the endgame day one. waste a ton of money in collectible games tho
It was only graphics in the remastered Diablo 2 resurrected that they changed There was nothing in the game that needed to be fixed Mike. Game was true to the original in the new release. Was cool to see it on console.
Idk I can't even say children bc most of your children now in days have complete access to parents debit/credit cards, but I see your point and the saddest part of it is the Old Time Grind feeling has been sent to the garbage bc the path to "Get Good" just isn't worth it in 85% of games anymore,,,smh sometimes it's sad to Talk About Games😔,,🤣✌🏻🤣
The real joke is while we are all sitting here debating and bemoaning Diablo Immortal, on last report the game has already made ~$24m. They honestly could care less about gamers and legacy at this point. It was never meant for us. This game is whale bait, and more will be coming.
I loved the first Diablo game, never played the 2nd because it was on PC and I didn't have one back then, then Diablo 3 came out and I was so excited and I preordered it and then I got it and I played and... I FUCKING HATED IT FUCK DIABLO 3 FUCK IT TO HELL
I don’t get how a community can “ruin a game” for you, if you like playing it without going super try hard and trying to find the best build, then just don’t look at those forums! I understand if they’re in your twitch chat complaining that you’re “playing the game wrong” or whatever but if you’re just playing it by yourself why even bother checking forums if they’re just gonna make you like the game less lmao
Mike, if you don't want people telling you how to play a game, how about you do it right, or play by yourself? No need to shit on those of us who min/max. You might like seeing new shiny pixels. We do, too, but we also like to do as much damage as quickly as possible.
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Love how honest and hilarious mike is. Constantly making me laugh
Honestly my favorite podcast at the moment
that’s what i’m talking about. and the fact that it’s video also is great. visuals. facial expressions. learn about different games and Ryan talking about the tech side of games. really great pod. if you’re not i definitely recommend their Patreon for the other episodes.
Maybe my least favorite
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@@Bruuuuuh620 agreed, Ryan has a deep knowledge and if it wasn't a video you'd never know he was in transition.
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I dont know why but I love listening to Ryan talk, his voice is proper chill and he always has good insight and interesting takes
You're really missing out on RDR2, Mike. I too wasn't enjoying the slow pacing at the start but it really becomes so fucking amazing that I'm glad I stuck it out and I always always recommend others do the same. It really is worth it. Luckily, the camp stuff is like 1% of the game anyway.
Yeah rdr2 is so good, havnt beaten the first one yet.
I am the only guy on the internet who doesnt like RDR2 at all. Gameplay is so weak, every mission is so scripted, to me its a game where you can just watch playtrhough on youtube and you wont miss anything, and if you can say that about the game, that game has failed. Amazing story and characters, but not an amazing game, its just a good cutscenes and dialogue put in a terrible game.
@@TheRealUcanUwill Lol..you may not be the only one, but you are one of the very, very few..
How in the world does it have weak gameplay? It improves on RDR in every single way. What did you expect from a western shooter? How could it possibly be any better than what it already is? I'm not really sure what you needed, it is fantastic. I'm really curious to hear how the gameplay could be better. Sounds like it's just not your type of game, which is fine. Sucks you didn't like it, but those are some really strange criticisms. Even Mike would love the gameplay as it improved on RDR (which he loves) in every single way.
And you don't want scripted missions? How would that work?
@@jupi_jupi I played it on console with a controller, and for starters, aiming and shooting is terrible, you rely on aim assist so much you barely play the game at that point. Missions are very linear, you only suppose to do one thing and if you do anything different, its game over.
Like that oil tank train robbery mission kills me. At first I spend several minutes driving an oil tank, I mean its half of what you do in that damn game, but its good so far, its good dialogue. But then I rob the train, and by rob, I mean I walk down the wagon with my gun out. I was walking, some bitch started talking shit, I thought I will have none of this - shot her in a face. Guess what, its game over, I didnt suppose to do that, I only supposed to walk. Why is that part even interactive then, its a f'ing walking simulation.
Cutscenes and story are the only parts that hold up in that game. What can the game do better? Everything? They focused on developing useless crap thats useless. Like why it needs 5 second animation to loot a body, how does it make game better? Why does it need shrinking horse balls and stuff like that that adds nothing to the game. Which game is better, Witcher 3, a game with multiple endings and choices or game where you so on rails its insulting? Which game is better, Witcher 3, when you kill something, you press a button to loot, loot is in your inventory. Versus a game you kill someone, you press loot, to watch Arthur go through every pocket of a f'ing dead guy. Which game is better, Witcher 3, where you can just call your horse at any time and do not fall from it when you crash a tree, versus RDR2 where you can't call your horse if its far away and you fall from it after every crash?
Rockstar focused on ''realism'' instead of making game, I dont know, fun to play. Making maybe some choice in a game, so you would feel like your playthrough is unique to you or something like that. Shooting is still not improved from San Andreas days. Rockstar claim they try to make the leaps from title to title, but in reality, the only improvemtn from their games are the graphics and animations. San Andreas is still a better game to this day and it came out like 20 years ago by now. It is just self indulging garbage. Boring as crap, my opinion.
Arthur morgan is what makes RDR2 nothing else
I just wanna go out and say that I really really like to hear Ryan talk. And that includes the dad jokes.
Well known Wild West video games: Red dead, wild guns, wild arms, sunset riders, moo mesa, gunman Clive, god hand, samurai western, Lone Ranger, cowboy kid,
I never heard of most of these except rdr, sunset riders and god hand. I guess i should check them out bc i love western stuff
You forgot "The Town With No Name"
@@davealaya "What a time to discover I have a hygiene problem."
@@UJJYY my names not Shane kid
@@davealaya lol and it was rated for all ages.
Talk About Games is my only appointment podcast. Consistently so good.
TMNT-Shredders Revenge !
much love
Diablo was probably the first game I was really, really into. I talked about it constantly as a kid.
🤣 the horse power
Sub-optimal talk was hilarious. This is one of the best gaming shows out there.
You guys should have the thumbnail art available as a keyboard mat!
Wow this was a amazing episode Ryan’s rant was amazing and Mike problem with RDR beginnings is the same for me for Fallout 3 I love it but man the first 15min is rough
We live in a society where people are choosing to defend and play fortnite over diablo I 100% agree too
As soon as Mike said motorcycle missions on vice City it took my mind straight to the Candy Suxx building.
Let’s talk about the Horse 😂
Every time I had an ad during watching this video it was an add for Diablo immortal
There is a great animation on RUclips called Diablol. It's about how it felt to experience Diablo 1 and 2 when they came out. Very funny, highly recommended.
13:29 that's not true at all. Rifts aren't for getting gear, they are for legendary gems.
Love your guys’ content!
The long haired guy looks like samurai cop.
Was watching this video and got interrupted by a diablo immortal commercial
When Mike and Ryan were talking about microtransactions in games and time based stuff like waiting 8 hours for something to happen, it made me think of Seaman and how its not the best game to stream. I thought of a partial solution for that- dedicate one camera for seaman and have that going for weeks at a time and see what content you could get out of it while playing other games.
Probably not worth doing in the end, but it is Leonard Nimoy. It might be funny.
I was there for the death of Horse Penis, it was pretty shocking and Mike's reaction was the best part lol
I really enjoy the content guys! Good job 👍🏻🇺🇲
Even after talking about such a hated game Ryan kept his cool. Good job Ryan, anyone else is sub optimal lol.
Would be cool to hear you talk about Blast Corps.
there’s a reason we have entertainment 🤘right on, mike 🤘
I watch this show to learn how to speak with an East Coast accent.
All Americans sound the same to me. Except people from Texas
Funny, because when you’re from the east coast, you don’t hear it. Lol
@@ducky920567 I'm from Chicago I can't hear mine either
Im from Birkenhead just outside of Liverpool and I dont hear it either
@@thetrophysystem3697 hahaha
Why the set looks like James' set?
I remember when people played the games before they reviewed them.
I love the realism of rdr2. I always walked everywhere, unless in danger. I love how it's realistic, as Ryan said, you wouldn't run around like link. This is actually a deal braker for me and I think Rockstar know this also, people don't want arcades anymore, they wana play films. Last Of us and Red dead success reflects this. I understand that it would be good to have the option to walk or run thus giving everyone the chance to play how they like but personally I think rdr2 is much better than rdr1.
BEST PODCAST
Id rather pay 60 for a game than the pay to play games.
I enjoyed this, but Mike... you're dead wrong about RDR2. Get through the beginning. They want players to take their time. It's the most immersive and breathtaking game I've ever played. Walk, don't sprint. Take in the dialogue, the plethora of tiny details. You're cheating yourself out of a unique gaming experience.
Yeah!
if they make a new red dead, they should put Caleb from Blood in it
25:15 Ye, there is a good game in there. It's called Diablo 3 Eternal Collection. Just play that instead. (Even the console versions are really cool, amazing ports! I kinda prefer them)
This is what happens when the profit motive replaces every other motivation or incentive for human enterprise. A game that's made because its creators were in love with the idea and vision will offer something even if it's ultimately a bad game, while a game that's made solely because it promises profit will be a soulless husk no matter its production value. Capitalism is to blame for the corruption of music, cinema, and gaming.
The problem is not the game ,its the people.
Love the show. Check out escape simulator
When I played Red Dead redemption the first time I quit after about 10 to 15 hours it just seemed so repetitive. The second one has really pulled me in.
GTA 4 has a train.
Hell yes, on point guys, corporation shit has hit an all time high... Needs to end
Mike be aware that Undead Nightmare is a very broken game. The worst glitch that game has, which happens way too often even during missions, is that zombies spawn without heads. Wouldn't be so bad if headshots weren't the only way to kill them. So sometimes missions become unbeatable and you have to reload your save to fix it.
I don't mind immortal...I think it's funny. I never expected anything more than what it is....ITS A FUCKING MOBILE GAME. That's what they are
Don’t you people have $110,000?
@@scottydu81 I don't know why people are spending money on it..
I mean...yoy dont really need too
Then why does it sound like you're making excuses for it?
@@flutebasket4294 idk..I just don't spend money on it and it's a good game for what it is. It's not a full fledged diablo game and was never meant to be. Js
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Loved Diablo I, the atmosphere was just awesome! Also had the Hellfire expansion (which was tough and not as well balanced in my opinion, but anyway fun to play). Enjoyed LAN sessions with Diablo II after that. But never looked into any other Diablo after that. And somehow I feel I should revisit Diablo I instead :-D
Rumors are that GTA VI will take place in Vice City, VI(ce) City! And GTA Trilogy Definitive Edition wasn't a f up? 🤔
Mike you guys should check out the game Hue
Ryan and Mike Matei 🎮🎮❌❌ what's up
Dude, zero money dropped, have a job, have 2 kids, house, 2 cars, a dog (=not a lot free time), played through the campaign, will probably finish battle pass this season, only paragon 24, anyway last two bosses were awesome, it is worth to play through the campaign just to challenge Zaka and Skarn with selffound gear.
Where do I click to like this video 5 times?
lol i’m gonna one day so that taints my life. truth, ryan, truth! some deep zingers tonight, fellas 🤘
It crashed once because it's literally the full scale beta launch xD
So cool seeing one of my favorite games for once. Lol. New game. Last of us is amazing.
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Is there ludder!? Hahaha!
The biggest irony is I got an ad for Evony while watching Ryan rant about app games lol. Evony is such a lie. And I’ve played a lot of app games. Haven’t played Diablo immortal, but I’ve played games with the same problems. I can see exactly what needs to be done to fix the game, but it’ll never happen. And meanwhile people are pumping thousands of $ into it
Looking good Ryan 👍😊
He looks like he's transitioning into a woman lol.
@@LostHope84 is he though?
_How the F would Picard taint TNG?!?_ He's the best captain Star Trek ever had.
People put in 20 grand.
Some meat head gym streamer dropped 300 bucks so he could pvp. Was playing a Warrior cyclone build. His damage sucked and he kept saying he was focused on tanking to help his group but was being smashed to hell or running away away to bandage himself. Was so boring
Mike looks smooth as always but... Jesus. Somebody needs to tell Ryan that he looks like the Witch of the North
I know it's unrelated but I don't like it when Nintendo keeps asking me to sub everytime I finish the first stage of Streets of rage 4. I know it's not as annoying as Immortal but...damn it.
i don't put any money in half of f2p games because i plan to play them for years instead of burn through them by buying the endgame day one.
waste a ton of money in collectible games tho
these games are designed to be played 15 min one per day. it's a different paradigm, it's not for gamers who play from dusk till dawn
having too much things to do is usually a downside for them. daily games are not made to be bindged
It was only graphics in the remastered Diablo 2 resurrected that they changed There was nothing in the game that needed to be fixed Mike. Game was true to the original in the new release. Was cool to see it on console.
Rockstar hasn't fucked us? Check out Red Dead Online then get back to us.
Idk I can't even say children bc most of your children now in days have complete access to parents debit/credit cards, but I see your point and the saddest part of it is the Old Time Grind feeling has been sent to the garbage bc the path to "Get Good" just isn't worth it in 85% of games anymore,,,smh sometimes it's sad to Talk About Games😔,,🤣✌🏻🤣
I thought Diablo died when 3 came out.
is Ryan transitioning?
No time.
Nobody has mentioned Diablo IV coming before the end of the year. That's what we're waiting for.
that was the first thing they mentioned before discussing Immortal
The real joke is while we are all sitting here debating and bemoaning Diablo Immortal, on last report the game has already made ~$24m. They honestly could care less about gamers and legacy at this point. It was never meant for us. This game is whale bait, and more will be coming.
I loved the first Diablo game, never played the 2nd because it was on PC and I didn't have one back then, then Diablo 3 came out and I was so excited and I preordered it and then I got it and I played and... I FUCKING HATED IT
FUCK DIABLO 3
FUCK IT TO HELL
WHY AREN'T YOU GOING LEFT?!
SUBOPTIMAL REEEEEEEE
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I wish most f2p were monetized fairly like fortnite. Diablo doesnt deserve a single active user.
Wtf is that on the left?
Blizzard is dead. No king rules forever.
Diablo Immortal is a money grab...sad but true. Diablo will never be the same after this...
Matt looks so tired.
This is an okay game. It ain’t Diablo 2
The current generation is the copy and paste generation. Creativity is nearly dead. Everything seems like a copy of a copy of a copy…
Imagine paying 60$ in Diablo Immortal and realising it gives you basically nothing
This is what you get for continuing to support Blizzard. You already knew they were awful back when they were choosing China over Hong Kong.
I don’t get how a community can “ruin a game” for you, if you like playing it without going super try hard and trying to find the best build, then just don’t look at those forums! I understand if they’re in your twitch chat complaining that you’re “playing the game wrong” or whatever but if you’re just playing it by yourself why even bother checking forums if they’re just gonna make you like the game less lmao
LMAOOO
'Rockstars never fucked us!"
.... Uh... 13 different GTA games. 2 maps. Naaaah not fucked us at all. Nah.
I feel like you guys don't know what you are talking about when it comes to Diablo.
Mike, if you don't want people telling you how to play a game, how about you do it right, or play by yourself? No need to shit on those of us who min/max. You might like seeing new shiny pixels. We do, too, but we also like to do as much damage as quickly as possible.
Blizzard =🤮
Can't wait for the nerd to obliterate Diablo Immortal 10-12 years from now!
So only children and the unemployed are not paying for this garbage? 🤣
Diablo =🤮
Mike needs to stop with the UPTALK because videos are unwatchable while he does this. GL…….
Maybe he's doing it to honor Pride Month 😬
The what?
@@Legofromthelowerlands020 just let the man live, bro
@@tyro1859 lmao it is bad content when you talk like this
i have no clue what you're going on about