I’m no where close to being a horse expert, but the fact the horse waited and faced the guy three separate times instead of immediately attacking shows that horse was aware and REALLY didn’t want to attack. A gorgeous life just thrown away.
He seems very intelligent and aware. I'm sure all he needed was patience and more than just one or two sessions. I definitely agree with Raleigh on this stallion behaving more like a wild mustang. And, we know that mustangs CAN be trained. 100% a gorgeous life thrown away.
The horse was acting like a stallion....... facing off another stallion....... orphans don't see people like people, they treat people like another horse. The trainer was trying to back him off and desensitize like a normal horse, but every time he touched him there....... which is a challenge fight spot for stallions, that horse wasn't just saying no..... it was squaring up like he was fighting another horse........ that horse had no path with humans to become normal
@@michellehoyt8218 I do not know about that. If kept with a well behaved horse (roll model) instead of those hooligans she has at home he could have learned some "decent" horsebehaviour. But he did not stand a chance if she was still in the picture. If a mare dies overhere (during of after foaling) everybody immediately starts looking for a fostermum, if not for the milk, then for the education ...
Right. He 100% warned him multiple times. And then, stopped once he knew the man was down. To me, thats definitely not a "dangerous" horse. That a horse that is acting instinctively.
@@amandafortin640 that is what touched me, too. Instead of biting multiple times or trampling over his foe, he attacked once and then stood still. I almost cried watching this.
When I got my first horse I had her professionally trained and the trainer would not allow me to ride her until he trained me. She was so wonderful to ride. I’ll never forget that time and forever thankful.
I took equestrian vaulting lessons from a woman who was only 5 feet tall and she owns 3 stallions (all draft breeds). The one I had most lessons on was a 17-18 hand tall Percheron stallion. She was able to load all 3 of them into a trailer, bathe them, perform on them (they even listened to vocal commands like "trot" "walk" "lope" when she was on them or on the ground). She was amazing with those horses. There are no excuses, only failures.
@@linneahelander8338 fair, I just meant the image of a short woman with 3 giant horses she's living with (I've been doing research for a book, got goddesses on the brain lol)
@@kristiwetsel9531 the daily job makes a huge difference. Also, horse-wo-man-ship. Percherons particularly have a reputation to be really big friendly souls who work their butts off for you if you treat them like partners not slaves. Mind, most heavy warmblood lines in Europe, i. e. were bred for farmers to be easy to handle. So, no breeding with "crackpots" with an eruptive temperament, bad attitude or "nerves". With the demand for sport horses (faster, higher, wider) the focus changed and they started breeding not only with lots of thoroughbred etc (which is quite ok if you want a lighter riding horse) but also with any kind of "crazed genius" just for its gaits and jumping capacity. Some breeds still have mostly quiet friendly studs that can be handled if you know how to, but some are.... hm... different. But its never the animal's fault, mind! In my own horse's blood line, studs were in fact aggressive and very "driven" by their hormons - but difficult to say, in dumb hands they all get cranky and start irritable behaviour.
That horse was INCREDIBLY patient and tolerant. Giving the guy multiple warnings of, "Hey, I'm gonna stand my ground, hey, I'm GONNA stand my ground!" That horse seemed incredibly trainable, just really nervous around people and objects because he hasn't had interactions with them before. The fact that they managed to get a saddle and person on him at all tbh. He could have bucked or reared at any point there, but he only put up a little fuss here or there. And notice. When the guy gets on him, the horse does NOT have his ears pinned back the whole time. If he were pissed, those ears would be glued back. He was PERFECTLY capable of learning to be ridden and well.
I think those trainers are dodgy too. Like comparing the horse to a disabled child? And then saying (at 22:32): "So you could have taken that disabled child and turn him into somethin of VALUE", like excuse me? Would these people euthanize disabled kids too? The fucc?
@@AmarisFrede Yeah, I‘m sorry but I really don’t like Buck because of this, that sentence is absolutely disgusting. As if disabled kids didn’t have inherent value as human beings…
@@AmarisFredeI think he probably meant that you can teach the child skills to better himself and function (on a "normal" level) in society, not that 'disabled' children/people aren't valuable. That's my takeaway. ((Although, the same is true for ANY child, regardless of disabilities.)) Sometimes people don't say things exactly how they're meant. And I have a child with special needs. He is my whole world. ❤ People don't always know how to speak about certain things in a way that won't offend others. Words can easily be misconstrued. I've learned that with time.
He also called the horse an SOB and a predator. He probably did cost this horse his life indirectly because the "owner" was embarassed by his justifiable insults @@AmarisFrede
Once she realized that they were placing the blame at her feet, she didn't WANT them to be able to rehabilitate this poor horse. She wanted him to be a lost cause so she could say "see, even the professionals couldn't help him!" She definitely keeps telling everyone that he had brain damage that made him aggressive. Disgusting.
That is your projection...we really don't know what was in her head....I think she was extremely embarrased and humbled at that point, and felt really bad that the guy was hurt and she was afraid he was going to hurt more folks. It was an overall difficult situation, sure she could have handled it better. But this demonizing this girl is truly distasteful and reveals something about your own character. And in a comment a few down from here it says someone watched the film with Buck who said this horse was NOT put down but turned out to pasture the rest of his life...she came back to one of his clinics with a different horse and got rid of a lot of her studs but still have some.
They were going too fast for the horse for one. You go with way smaller initial movements until he adapts to those first. You can get away with pushing hard SOMETIMES with a very tame horse that is used to be handled otherwise. But this horse is still wild and also a stallion, they need to at least get basic halter breaking done before flailing a rug at him and also they need to introduce it more slowly. Horse people should know that a stallion is naturally not going to tolerate as much.
@@sherrihawkins1864 Maybe she's one of those that posts online/local ads as a studfarm. Who knows. But if she DOES have mares too...oh boy, the poor creatures.
@@straycat3476 Yes! Breedings when talking about the stallion's aspect of the deal are also called studding. You can see alot of breeders advertize studdings for money online, not just for horses tho. Studs are intact/not castrated males. Most commonly people talk about dogs or horses tho when using the term. :)
Maybe it's just me, but I feel like putting him down for essentially setting boundaries is like punishing a victim of assault or bullying for defending themselves. Sick. He's such a beautiful horse too. Breaks my heart.
@@littlepony8571 buck is one of the greats , he has plenty of education and experience. The guy that was attacked was his prodigy or assistant. They did what they could. Just a sad situation. The horse getting put down lands squarely on this lady’s shoulders
@@Ambelica well I appreciate the dilemma. No problem horses only problem owners. My comments were on sometimes the unwillingness of people to offer a hand. But yes often that hand isn't welcomed and alway at the expense of the horse
I remember watching this and thinking "How is she still alive?" She was ABSOLUTELY the worst type of horse owner alive and this horse paid the price. NO ONE needs 16 stallions! The most stallions I've had at the ranch were 3, and they were broke, handled, and knew their jobs. You can do anything you want with them because they were raised to know respect and how to be handled. I love how Buck just took her down gradually, but letting her know in no uncertain terms that she was the problem. I believe she still had all those other stallions after the filming and never did anything with them either. What a looney tune!
To be honest I'm not that impressed with Buck at all. That horse didn't have brain damage and he shouldn't have even went down that road. Nothing wrong with that horse other than he hadn't been worked with enough and he was surrounded by 17 or 18 other stallions
She ruined the horse, put everyone in danger...became embarrassed and euthanised him to 'save face'. He didn't try to kill the man, the most dangerous thing there is her...
She really went and treated a horse like a puppy and was shocked when it acted like an grown ass stallion. She is clearly very inexperienced and has no business having a damn stallion in her care, let alone 18? She is a fool pretty much.
Not just inexperienced but ignorant which is worse. It's a shame that irresponsible and inept people get away with their mediocre practices as animal owners 😢
I have a feeling that she’s either lying about having 18 stallions at her house/barn or she’s just a psychopath who thinks it’s cool to own 18 stallions, those poor horses should be taken away from her tbh, I have a feeling that that’s not the first time she’s gonna put a horse down for acting like one.
No kidding! Of course they need shelter and human contact if they’re going to be domesticated, but they NEED to be able to go outside and run and graze and socialize with other horses. They HAVE TO.
That woman is the horse world's equivalent of a dog hoarder with some mental health issues calling themselves a "rescue." They have dozens of dogs wasting away in filthy crates 24/7, can't/won't take proper care of them, and will still go out and collect more because they need to SaVe ThEm AlL!
He antagonized the horse until he got a reaction. That was his fault, not the horse's. That horse told him over and over and over again, but he ignored it. These people all suck! Edit: except Buck. He's exactly right. I wish I had known about this horse. I could have fixed the situation. I know, because I bought a stallion exactly like this for $150. He was even worse, truth be told, and I turned him into the best horse I ever owned. He was literally so good I could put a 7 year old little girl on him and he was absolutely sweet as pie with her.
I AM SO UPSET THAT THEY euthanize EUTHANIZED THIS YOUNG & BEAUTIFUL STALLION!!! ITS UNEDUCATED IDIOTS THAT DONT THINK OUTSIDE THE G.D BOX !! THIS HORSE COULD HAVE HAD A NICE, SAFE, FUN LIFE BUT NO... This Girl Is Right!!!
The guy in video w palomino is an idiot. To throw a sack on a horse over and over and over,!!!! The point being????? Besides aggravating it to no end. Then act like oh woe is me!? Deserve what you got!!
That stallion was mesmerisingly gorgeous. I'm Hungarian, I love horses and I grew up watching Magyar Népmesék (Hungarian Folk Tales) so naturally, this stud reminded me of a táltos horse, a magical steed that can fly or run as fast as thought does in our mind. This horse could've been called a golden táltos, he definitely had the capability to be that. So, that woman isn't just insane. She's a disgrace not just to every horse owner/rider but to humanity as a whole. She practically murdered one of the most beautiful creatures I've ever seen in my life and I'm grieving, knowing this young stallion lost his life merely because of her neglect and idiocy.
Same, that stallion is my dream horse he is perfect in every way. He wouldn't even have taken much work, it would've been a joy to help him learn. Just time. Shame he happened to end up with her, as well as the other stallions. She doesn't appreciate them at all.
ehhhhh he looked like an average to low quality stock bred horse. Only nice part was he was a pretty color. Trust me - we have MUCH better horses than this poor example.
A mesebeli aranyszőrű táltos aki lerúgja az égről a csillagokat és egyetlen ugrással elrepít az Óperenciás-tengeren is túlra. Egyetértek. Szörnyű, hogy ilyen emberek léteznek egyáltalán.
He only did that well because he knew his foot was tied up. Try bucking and he only injures himself. I agree with everyone that it's a shame, the horse wasn't crazy. He just had been completely neglected by his owner. I hope she either learned from this or no longer has horses.
@@cherylnicole9578 No, I have a 5 month old filly who has never had any training at all and never been handled, had her for about 2 weeks now, she’s the most gentle horse I’ve seen that has never been handled and I was even able to put a light weight saddle pad on her and she was just good as gold
@@Imkindadumb_7 You and your filly are having this good experience because your filly never got the impression that she's Paris Hilton's chihuahua. This palomino's life was pure tragedy.
@@cherylnicole9578horses arent capable of the kind of thought you are implying here. they know short term consequences, but if the horse has never been in a situation where it got hurt from having a leg roped under saddle, it wont now that it can injure itself.
I absolutely agree with you. When I was in 4th grade, my dad and 3 of his friends decided to go on a benefit ride from Hobart IN to Ft. Wayne IN for the Cancer Society. We were the only ones who didn't have a horse, and we knew nothing about caring for one either. We were so blessed, though. The horse my Dad finally bought, Raya, was much older than the rest of the horses going on the ride. The other men kept telling my Dad he had made a huge mistake and that Raya was never going to complete the ride. Dad decided to keep Raya at the stables he had been kept with his old owner. The lady that owned the stable when it came time for the benefit ride a vet was there at tge so knowledgeable about horses and Raya in particular. Audrey talked to another lady to see if she could give us all riding lessons. She said yes, and our journey began. As it turned out, Raya was such a versatile horse. My Dad and sister rode Western and they both learned to barrel race. I liked huntseat and was learning how to jump after I learned to ride well. We rode Raya 7 days a week for about 4-5 hours, rain, shine snow, didn't matter. We had an excellent farrier and vet. We loved Raya so much, and we all loved riding him. The vet gave all of the horses a full check-up a couple weeks before the ride. He said our horse was in near racing condition. He was so beautiful. All muscled up, and his tummy was nice and flat. The other horses were flabby and had big old bellies. The vet said Raya was in the best shape he'd ever seen him. Every few days, the vet would be at their next camping site to check the horses over after they'd been ridden all day. Raya's heartbeat was always the lowest because he was a true athlete. The other 3 horses were struggling. Raya was also the best behaved horse. I am so proud of our family for taking part in Dad's ride. Dad kept Raya after the ride. We had so much fun riding and just being with our horse that Dad couldn't sell him. We had many good years riding him in shows, trail riding and in parades too. I miss the old guy. I would bet that he and Dad have gotten back together in heaven, and they're riding with our pastor and his horse Rusty. I sure hope that's true.
As someone who has rehabilitated a bunch of horses, this is heartbreaking. This horse was absolutely redeemable. He didn.t mean bad, he was just a horse, with hormones he couldn't handle and no proper socialization. I liked buck's suggestion of gelding him, getting him into a herd, where mares would teach him manners and working with him. This guy could have been amazing. What a senseless, needless death.
I just am confused why he was chasing the horse with a blanket though, maybe different training styles but I would have got him tied up first to get used to being handled. Especially after the great work he did earlier which proved beyond any shadow of a doubt the horse just needed work and human handling and a few mares to put him in his place after his balls removed!
@@rsh793 He was chasing him because he doesn't know what he is doing. This is a wild stallion with normal horse behavior, This horse has been neglected for 3 years and has no ground work whatsoever and it's so sad that they wasted his life due to their irresponsibility. Buck at least tried and made a suggestion unlike the other guy and woman.
@@rsh793 He should've gotten the hint the horse gave let alone if he is working with Buck, It is not hard to notice warning sign behaviors I'm pretty sure Buck even knows that as well. So the guy chasing the horse probably wouldn't know what the hell to do all the other times had Buck not instructed him.
We got a horse like this at my job. He had been left in a pasture, ungelded, unhandled at all until four years old. He ran over my boss because of fear of going into the barn so he went to a trainer with more time to work with him and, shocker, was under saddle and working well with people!! Horses deserve to be given the time and energy they need to learn
As the former owner of a Tennessee walking horse stallion, that I bred to a small herd, I have to say that horse was raised terribly. I got him as a weanling, he spent his younger years with an old broodmare, as well as a few other mares and geldings. Regular handling, the same as any other horse, freedom to associate and develop his mind, started under saddle at 2 but not really ridden much until 3, but handled in the same way as the rest, demanding the same behavior, and having that old mare really shaped his behavior, so did not geld him, as unless you saw the testicles, you would not realize he wasn't. he went on to be my safest most reliable horse for 27 years, babysat my kids from toddlers to my grandkids, nieces and nephews, etc. A 2 year old could lead him anywhere, head down so he could see, slow and gentle, if put them up on his back, he would slowly graze or munch hay , always caring for his charge. I will always miss him, but I certainly agree, not all horses should be stallions, not all people should own horses
Yeah, I've had a stallion (off the track colt) before but I'd had mares and gelding before and made sure I got mentoring in how to train and look after him. He was a wonderful horse, very well mannered. I think the treatment of stallions is often cruel and inhumane. So many breeding stallions lead boring, contained and isolated lives and then get labelled as aggressive when what they need is socialisation and training. A trained stallion that can socialise is a much much happier stallion. Mine had a lil herd of mares and was polite enough to my gelding that lived across the fence from him. When riding he might notice mares but when I redirected his attention to me, he listened and behaved. He had four foals, one of which my family still has. a lovely anglo arab gelding who is locally famous haha! Often my grandfather that has him goes 'oh that's my horse' when people post pictures of visiting him on social media.
I know of a North swedish stallion, that toddlers could lead. A very sweet horse, and propperly handlede throughout his life. Now his trotting career is over, he is only used as a stud.
I got a stallion when I was 7 for Christmas. He had been abused by his previous owner. He was a good horse to ride but one day when I was putting him back in his stall after a ride he got feisty and reared up and bit me right on the chest like her only a bit lower. Man that hurt but I didn’t have him put down. He did it in response to a female in heat close by. I did however agree to geld him never had another incident like that. His only bad habit was he would lay down and role on you if smacked on the butt with the reins. That’s what he did when the previous owner tried to ride him. Bucky wouldn’t do what he wanted and was smacking him. So he laid down and roled on him saddle and all.
I heard stories about my great grandparents owning a few horses. The only one that nobody loves but Great Grandpa was a horse named Stormy. Nothing wrong with them just stuck up 😂
That horse actually looked very polite for a three year old unhandled stallion considering the circumstances. He just seems so scared and confused and kicks into fight for flight which is totally normal behaviour!!!! Imagine going from total isolation in a field for 2 and a half years, to being ragged around and treated like shit - I think he would’ve been a beautiful natured horse with some patience, love, gradual exposure training and positive reinforcement. He looks so sweet :(
Ya, even if you don't have the skills to train such a horse to be rideable, at least train him enough to be a good pet. I've worked with horses who were just too much for me to train (I'm absolutely no trainer, but knew people who just had horses out on the pasture they didn't have time for, so I did what I could). At the very least, I gained their trust, could handle them, groom them, do ground work with them, and even a little riding in a round pen. It's just awful what this woman did to that poor horse.
Did you notice the scars all over his face and body? She definitely abuses him and is lying and making excuses. She deserves everything she has gotten that is unbelievable.
If he's turned out with a dozen studs it's reasonable to assume most of the marks are from them, but I also guarantee that the only interaction this bitch has with her studs is to beat them.
@@kayawinchell182 yeah you’re right but some of them definitely look not normal for horse buck marks. She never addressed the fact either which if I were her I would have said it was from the other studs if it actually was from them..
@@thewerewolfofwaggawagga8818 not always. Edit: some will not if they are well behaved and not aggressive or wild. When you chose a herd of horses together you should pay attention to their behavior when put it if they show aggression pull them. It’s obvious the first few minutes. At least this is what I would do. But I also wouldn’t have more than five horses together unless I trust them.
@@Toad_bonk Uh... no? Unless they're getting beat up on the regular and absolutely COVERED in open wounds, or get majorly injured -- it is perfectly NORMAL horse herd behavior to have scuffles on the regular, and end up with some small bite or kick marks. Sure, if one of the horses is CLEARLY being badly beat up and bottom of the herd? Struggling to eat? Not integrated into the group? Pull them and move them to a more chill herd. But all horses get some scars if you let them have this perfectly natural social interaction.
I completely agree. This horse could have been amazing, yet she still decided to neglect it for 3 YEARS. Why the heck would you put this innocent horse down. People who do not know what they are doing should NOT have horses. I can’t believe her. What an idiot. Thank you for educating us with every video you make Raleigh.
how many studs were at her place? Nearly 20? And she had no time for none of them, still bought them or collected them or kept them... aren*t they called animal horders? Gives me the creep. Here in Europe, people often have far less space to keep horses. So they stuff a small terrain and stables up to the roof and still lack time, money and strength to keep things rolling. Why do you need 2, 3, 8 or more horses if you have only one a*** to sit on ONE at a time? Same with dogs. Tell me that a breeder with 17 dogs has time to take care equally well of all of them? NOPE.
I agree 💯 with you, I am devastated to hear what happened to him. He did not deserve that. He didn't like her because he knew she was a shitty human. Eff that lady. Sorry for the language bit I'm so angry. I want to go mishandle her right off a bridge.
Well one damned good reason to have more than 1 horse alone is that unless you have that 1 horse working full time is that horses are first & foremost herd animals. It would be like locking an innocent person up in solitary confinement for their whole life except for an occasional few moments in the company of an apex predator like a lioness or tiger... because in many ways, that's exactly how a horse with infrequent human contact views us humans.
This kind of thing happens with cat and dog owners too. They think the animal is crazy, and will think no one else could take better care of the pet. The sheer arrogance of thinking that it's unfixable just bc YOU couldn't fix it (or even were the one to cause the problem) is such a... frustrating bad pet owner tendency.
My friend's mom had a Lipizzaner stallion that kicked her while she was in the stall with it. She even lost a kidney because of him. Yet she still blamed herself for putting her guard down knowing him and his personality. She never put him down or labeled him a ruined horse. She still rides him to this day.
This colt was 3 years old and wasn't even halter broke, he'd had NO training other than teaching him that he was on the top of the pecking order.. he also learned stud behavior by being kept with possibly 18 other stallions.. this was his first day of school and in another year he's a grown up. Just like children.. do we let them run amuck until they are 17 and then send them to college without learning kindergarten when the kid doesn't even know how to spell his name or zip his coat?? This woman is a disaster... This poor horse never got a real chance... so incredibly sad..
I know I'm late to the game, but Buck Brannaman came to a horsemanship conference at my school last year. We ended up watching the Buck documentary with him there, and he talked about this particular situation after it was over. The horse didn't end up being put down, he was turned out in a pasture for the rest of his life and no one ever really did anything else with him. She actually showed up at another one of his clinics a few years later with a different horse. She also got rid of many of her studs, but she still has a few.
I just couldn’t freaking watch. I’m so sad to know HSUS hasn’t intervened and charged her with criminal abuse and neglect. She belongs in prison. Poor horse, what a lonely life he lead….glad he at least was out to pasture and not bothered by shit-crusted asshats anymore. She really was a piece of work - that borders on Cluster B to show up with another horse. Incredulous 😒🙄
Someone is on here lying and causing drama, because the horse was never ever put down, the ignorant trainer, unexperienced as he was, was showing fear and too much agreesiveness and catch the signs from this horse, being threatful toward the horse and with short days of sessions won't work could taken at least 2 weeks and even a couple of months to get this horse trained and in time the horse would of been a beautiful horse to own and to enjoy riding for many years if the horse were taken over from Buck Brannaman it would of been completely different and a great horse to have owned ...
YES!! So true with so MANY animals!! It’s not the animal…, no matter what it is… it generally ALWAYS humans that are the problem. In 42 years as a professional trainer, I only came across TWO horses in my career that really did have a mental Issue that made them dangerous. And that was verified by top vets, not just guessed at.
I have a policy that if the person I am training is not doing what I ask or behaves with mean intentions towards their dogs, I fire them immediately. You're 100% right. It's not worth putting your time and effort into someone who blames everyone else for their mistakes. They never learn and they will turn it on you eventually.
I swiveled that idea into becoming a dog groomer. I'm still learning and will not have my own private practice for a few more years but I plan on specializing with disabled, senior, and 'behaviorally challenged' dogs. Raleigh and some hoof maintenance channels (as well as my love for horses, cows, sheep, etc) have me thinking about also offering general hoof care and coat maintenance too 👀 is a horse groomer a thing??
I remember seeing a dog training show & the women manage to correct a dog behavior & she told the owner what he shouldn't do. The trainer went away & the owner broke all the progress by doing what the trainer said he shouldn't do. In some episodes the trainer had to threaten the owners of taking the dogs away because of negligence or abusive behavior. You had to deal with people as much as with the animals. I can't.
I got accidentally bit by a horse, while she was trying to bite away a fly. so her saying “the bite will be there for the rest of my life.” Is absolutely BS. My bite is already almost healed, and I honestly think SHE has brain damage. That horse is absolutely beautiful, and I’ve been around stallions and studs before. They can be very sweet, sure they have more energy, but she shouldn’t ever own one. She doesn’t know what she’s doing.
I just recently watched Buck. Wonderful movie. I was MORTIFIED when I saw this horrific attack on the handler. I’m stunned Dan wasn’t harmed far worse. This horse is that FREAKS creation. I was so glad when Buck told her “you’re crazy lady” when she “proudly proclaims” that she had 18 stallions. She is NOT an equestrian. She is DESTROYING the lives of every equine she “owns”. They are, in her twisted mind, showpieces for her. Thank you for covering this.
Definitely not an equestrian, she's a horse hoarder. If you watch the attack in slow motion, the horse wasn't trying to kill or seriously hurt Dan, he just wanted Dan to leave him alone. Sure, he bit Dan, but he then moved so he didn't step on him and didn't pursue the attack any further when he could have killed him.
Truly Discusting that dhe put him down when he was kike that because of her! She shouldn't be allowed to ever own any horses ever again! She us one of those that thinks she looks good to other people when she says she has 18 stallio s running together on her place,reality is she looks ignorant! Bet they can't be handled maybe one or two can be handled and ridden but the rest are out fighting and running not groomed,vetted,teeth floated,farrier work or anything else because She is a Stud Owner Breeder who is trying to make Money and doesn't give a damn about her horses! If she did that little horse wouldn't have ever been a stud to begin with and sure as hell wouldn't have acted like that and your 1000 percent right she only kept him a stuf because he was good looking and she wanted to profit off his looks...that horse wasn't brain damaged! I don't think Buck has the time to take that horse and more so I would say he didn't take him knowing she was going to put him down to make her see she is the problem!!
@@katiehall3031 Agreed. She is a black eye on those responsible Equestrians who raise and breed stallions responsibility. She was the kiss of death for that horse from day one.
If she wants to collect horses, she can find them for sale on the internet and then have someone build a lighted display case she can hang on the wall. Then she can play "horsey" every day, just as long as she puts them away before she goes beddy-bye.
That poor horse. Once he understood what was being asked of him, he was an absolute angel. He rely needs some positive, safe groundwork. When the trainer said she wasn't allowed to handle him without supervision, I had to laugh. She's so full of herself and he totally put her in her place.
This is absolutely bonkers. That stallion was confused, threatened and angry, incredibly high tension. Then the trainer goes in and starts on like level 5 of approaching a wild horse and the stallion warns him off repeatedly. What the hell else was that horse supposed to do? He couldn't get away so the only way was through. Also: if they really wanted to give him a chance they could have gelded him first and tried again in a few months.
What I never understood about this situation.. the horse has absolutely no ground work that it's showing it's learned... they flooded him, he should've never pushed him with the saddle blanket. So heartbreaking, this entire situation ever since the documentary aired has always been hard for me to watch, especially because of the outcome for this horse.
I totally agree, I think the situation was handled completely wrong. Although I do like Buck, I think he was trying to show the owner that the horse could be worked with and didn't have to be put down... but she was a complete idiot and they could've handled the training better.
@@RaleighLink agreed. I’m so glad he didn’t pull any punches with her and they aired everything. Despite this poor horse losing his life over this, hopefully others will see this and maybe make some change.
came here to say this. the horse was shut down when under saddle....but all the work needs to be done getting the horse DS/CC to just co existing with humans
I know a breeder who we got my late mare from, and his stallion was the sweetest guy ever. He got him out and showed him to us. The stallion was a Tennessee Walker, TALL, HUGE horse. But he was a gentle giant. The breeder takes his mares and his stallion to Colorado in the mountains and lets them run. They come back, and he rides. They go home. That's what he told us, and because of the behavior of the stallion, I believe him.
That poor horse deserved better. She's an animal abuser and should have all her animals taken away. This breaks my heart. That poor boy was young and definitely redeemable. He just needed someone who was willing to take responsibility and the time to work with him. She needs to be held accountable. And the guy that got attacked was not listening to the horse's warnings. If he can't read and listen to horse body language, he shouldn't be working with horses. This horse was failed by everyone around him. 😭
I have minimal horse experience but worked at a large zoo for years. I wish I could have kept that beautiful horse I could've got him better, and yes she wanted to make money off of handsome boy. And I agree no control, tons of distance, no trust created with that trainer. Also the horse just drove him off, he wasn't even actually vicious 😢 Tragic. This woman is a vicious, smirking, predator. She enjoyed getting men hurt and killing that horse. She was smiling. Disgusting.
Absolutely. I'm not a horse expert by any means, & haven't spent years around them like many here -- but it's SO INCREDIBLY OBVIOUS in that attack part that he was getting frustrated, he showed for minutes on end, that he was about to get fed up. They could have simply stopped & taken it back up later, give the horse some damn space for a minute.
It is such a shame, that horse was an absolute beautiful animal. He gave warnings, it wasn't out of the blue, it wasn't unexpected. That beautiful animal was punished because of Her failure as an owner. If I was the trainer I would have had to take that horse, there's no way I could have let it be put down over that. She may have been embarrassed but if you work around animals long enough eventually you're gonna get hurt. The horse didn't need to lose his chance at a normal life, just because she had her ego damaged.
@RandomHorseNose an absolutely stunning animal that really wasn't the "problem child" she wanted to make him out to be. There were multiple moments where I would have expected a reaction an he just chose to move away. Finally he had enough, so he hit the guy and then backed off. I understand being embarrassed but she really let her ego be the reason that gorgeous animal couldn't get the chance he needed. All he needed was some time, basic bonding exercises and someone willing to appropriately respond to his charges and aggressive behavior. Not day one or two of training n then giving up on him.
I hate how they kept treating him like a horse that should have known everything they were attempting to teach him. They treated him like an animal THAT HADN'T BEEN NEGLECTED FOR 3 YEARS, and were suddenly surprised when he reacted accordingly. They should have been approaching him like a wild stallion that had never had contact with humans. Some people really shouldn't have access to animals, they just don't deserve them
It's a shame this horse was put down. He had a very kind eye and I wish they'd given him a chance, to prove his good character. With patience, knowledge and soft consequential lead he would've been a lovely horse. He did so well in this completely new situation, for being almost never handled. He gave several warnings, he was completely overloaded with new influences and was just overwhelmed.
@@trishot8195 in the same sense and logic there's no reason for you to NOT be gelded either, or if you're female then spayed. Keep trying to justify non reasons instead of taking a more patient and humane approach, or best of all, not owning animals that aren't meant to be owned in the first place. Keep making yourselves look like sick disgusting twisted people. Please. Please let others know to avoid you so we can avoid producing more senseless and backwards thinking humans who are so lost they can't understand extremely simple concepts such as what I'm saying. There's a reason why it's looked down on in other parts of the world, and why people get angry about this in other countries. Because they aren't stupid. Their brains function properly. They know this is act on horses is cruel and unintelligent. Get it together.
This woman is exactly why I had to stop re educating and training horses for anyone other than myself. People would come to me with "fix my horse" and it would soon become abundantly apparent the problem was with the human handler/owner. I quit to save my own sanity. My small string and I are all very happy nowadays. Love your work Raleigh, love your no bullshit commentary. Thank you from the southern forests region of Western Australia
@@fleurdelice777 😂...you don't even know how close to the truth you are! Tiger snakes and dugites are everywhere in summer down here. We have a resident dugite that lives under our stable block...he eats the rabbits that live under there. We got tired of killing them cos as fast as you get rid of one...another shows up. So we decided to leave this one be as he knows the horses are there...he won't waste his venom on anything too big to eat so...and I pray. Anyways we call him Elmer (the dugite) cos he's always hunting wabbits 😂 And yes I'm 100% serious.
I really like the guy in the red shirt. He keeps it short, clean and tells the whole truth without sugaring it. What he said at the end was so true. This horse could've had such a different life if the owner stepped up to the plate sooner. I feel awful for the horse.
Can't believe the sad end of this beautiful horse because of this mad woman, if this is the one she took, I dread to think what the other ones are going through 😔
And he still had a chance. You can have a horse that acts like this, geld him and 2 weeks to a month later he's a sweetheart and super easy to handle. This lady doesn't deserve thise horses and she's torturing them be not gelding them for absolutely no reason but pride. "Look at what a tough cowboy I am" . Idiot.
“I haven’t had the chance to get him cut yet” he’s THREE years old, I feel like even anyone who has no experience with horses can smell how stupid that is. Even before she admits to having “a pasture” full of other studs. I absolutely agree that she left him intact for breeding. He did so good saddled! Especially considering this is probably the first time he’s been ridden in years, if at all. My heart broke, and I couldn’t help by cry, when Buck talked about how the horse doesn’t know any other way to be, and how she basically turned the horse into a predator. Watching the red flags be completely ignored by the trainer hurt even more, it’s like he was trying to rush the progress. The horse even put up with a lot before he finally struck back. That horse did nothing wrong in that situation. Him being euthanized for that incident is like punishing a victim for defending themself! I’m going to have to watch the Buck documentary, this man clearly has so much love, respect, and understanding for these animals.
The thing is it’s months and months of work with very low reward because that horse is too far gone. It’s easy to talk on internet about how all these horses are fine and just need a bit of ground work, it’s different when you have to dedicate a lot of time and money to keep such a horse and walk the talk.
Agreed, it IS a lot of work. Almost like what you sign up for when you choose to own these animals and CHOOSE not to give them proper medical care and training. You DO have to dedicate a lot of time and money. @@relaxingnaturevideos1203
That “trainer” is just one of those cowboy method trainers who would have been even meaner to genuinely psychologically break the horse into being an abused machine to produce results for shitty breeders who breed for color. I guarantee you that trainer is so ignorant she doesn’t even panel test her horses and pays no attention to conformation and actual genetic quality. they’re all probably “line bred” too. A beautiful sweetheart of a horse thrown into the trash
@@relaxingnaturevideos1203I hear you. I've been there with a horse like this, only a bit more added abuse. It took a year of work before I got on him the first time. So much of that year was spent on, what looked like nothing. Just sitting near him being non threatening, eating my lunch while he ate a snack. Horses that are this far gone take SO MUCH TIME AND EFFORT. It's just not feasible for most people, and not worth it to most of the rest.
Notice, the horse makes his point and moves away. He did NOT try to kill him. You’re right. With edited videos you can’t know what actually happened between shots.
That was so insightful, “this horse tells me a lot about you”! That’s so true! I’ve noticed most pets with behavioral issues, there’s a human to blame! Just like bratty kids!
Zoologist and former vet student here. That's not always true. In this case definitely, but you can't say that's the case for all animals. Pitbulls are an example of this. They are inherently dangerous, I don't care what the pit nutters say, the research and the evidence is quite clear.
I’m gobsmacked that this guy either ignored or couldn’t read the horses body language. I could see the horse trying to tell him so many times before he bit him. It’s just pure craziness
@jacksonmcgill3125 nah but like, they tried throwing a saddle on day 2 of what's basically a feral stallion. They should've done more groundwork and taken more time for him to be calm and comfortable with the things going on around him. Instead they just pushed him far fast his limit
Too much ego to respect the obvious cues from the horse. A good trainer doesn't force. They allow the horse to make the decision by training them with proper cues. This guy unnecessarily used aggressive tactics trying to force the horse to his will with little regard for his own safety. How would YOU react had YOU been that horse? Training a horse properly to be a WILLING partner takes more than a day.
I’m not a horse expert, I’ve never owned a horse but I know a lot about other animal’s behaviour. That horse was not a dumb horse. It was honestly the opposite. It seemed smart.
He gave them SO many chances when he was upset or scared. That horse wanted to feel safe, and none of them granted him that because they wanted to look cool rather than take it easy, and build some trust. He just needed time and a bond, he could have been an excellent companion 😭 if half wild he was that tolerant, i just idk man this broke my heart
Buck said what she needed to hear and what really we all need to hear about our animals that we choose to bring into our lives. This has me in tears and I'm so heartbroken for that poor horse.
The blanket seen was awful horse handling. He wasn’t acclimating that horse to the blanket, all that horse saw was this big scary thing going after him again and again. He felt trapped.
I agree, he should not have been throwing the blanket at him with that response of the stallion. But she said 'I would have tied him to the fence'. No....Then he would feel even more trapped and would just panicked and kicked. Both are wrong imo
Yep! There were SEVERAL “no thank you”s coming from that boy. And they would have been obvious even if she hadn’t pointed them out or even if you don’t know horse behavior that well. I love horses but am no expert in horse body language. And the horse stopped when he was hollered at! This horse was NOT aggressive. This horse was firm and he upheld his boundaries.
After he "attacked" and injured that trainer, you can hear someone off-camera say "yeah, he's a psychopath". Just breaks my heart to hear them speak so maliciously towards this horse that was literally set up for failure BY A HUMAN. He's not a psycho, he's a WILD HORSE. I hope that his owner accepts some responsibility and acknowledges her role in his euthanasia, but I doubt she does considering her irresponsible, uneducated, large-scale studkeeping. Just absolutely heartbreaking and infuriating.
Yes i completly agree with you but i do think this was both fault. How they treated that horse in the pasture. He was lame when they walked him out after the "Dan guy" had first mounted him. And then the second session when he throws a blancet on him was so far off. The horse was scared, confused and finally had enough. A "good horse" would propably go numb of there behaviour and just surrender. But this was a stallion and he did not put up with there bullshit. This trainer do not speak to me at all. And im stunned that railegh talk so sweet of him. I dont think this is good training at all. Its old fashion and out of date. And he speaking of the horse as a rebellious unruly child, but no stop! You dont treat a horse like that. You definentily dont treat a child like that! If you beat or force mutch discipline into your child, sure you will get a child who "behaves", but you definentily havent gain that trust or earned theire respect. So in the end you havent gained anything st all.
I briefly (for about six months) had a young gelding who acted very similarly to this horse, especially with the biting and the bucking. I am pretty confident I was lied to about his age (vet confirmed he was younger than I was told, almost too young to be ridden) and his level of training (basically none). I tried with a professional trainer for six months with that horse, but in the end, I knew I wasn’t the right person to handle him, I’m too anxious as a person and we’d feed off each other’s energy, so I gave him to someone I trusted to treat him well. I don’t understand why people don’t admit when they’re in over their head. It’s not only what’s best for you, it’s what’s best for the horse.
That horse was honestly doing fabulously under saddle. Even his attack wasn't so bad- I've seen rescue horses react worse (lashing out due to trauma). He absolutely deserved better. I really wish he'd been given a second chance with Buck or someone who had the confidence to handle him.
Have to disagree. I saw the movie, he bit his head with such force it went clear to the bone, and stitches were needed so he was taken to the ER. I agree that he was acting normally for a wild stallion and should not be thought of as an "aggressive" horse, but he did really hurt the guy, who IMO was too unqualified to handle a stallion, much less work with him on the ground. I just wish Buck would have noticed this and might have had a counseling session with the cray cray owner about how she really had a "wild" horse, not just a horse that she needed "help" with. Such a sad ending 😢
What's completely insane is that in this day and age, and much thanks to the Mustang Heritage Association's TIP program, there are literally hundreds of very experienced wild mustang trainers across the country of whom this horse could have been sent to for training. Trainers who have seen all of these behaviors a thousand times over. You're right about the whole situation being so sad.
My family adopted two mustangs when I was in my teens. We spent every day with them, getting them used to us, halters, etc. After about a year we had a professional trainer work with them and he was able to get them green broke. They were wonderful, sweet horses, but it took a commitment from us to work with them. Some people want animals without the effort. Doesn't work that way.
First thing I would have done with that horse is geld him. Get him in a place he's by himself. Spend time around him allow him to settle the testosterone down & heal. Approach without the pressure of the blanket slapping. I think they moved on this horse to fast to hard. Those guys put way to much pressure on him. He reacted out of frustration & went into defense mode. Tragic to not geld him before making such a final decision. 😪
I'm not a fan. Even though he was right about her, he still pushed that horse, made Dan harass him until he fought back and then called him a "sociopath".
This is so sad. He was essentially hitting the horse with the blanket that he was afraid of. Acts as an expert but doesn’t follow the many, many cues from the horse that he was done with it-it’s his fault he got attacked-and it was more so a warning because like you said, if he wanted him head he’d be dead, it was another warning that he needed to stop pushing his boundaries. Poor baby, I hope his soul rests easy.
I’m nowhere near a horse expert but any animal lover can see the physical, non -verbal, and verbal cues this horse is giving off and can RESPECT those boundaries. I’m so sad about this
Wow I literally cried as I watched this. What a beautiful animal and it's so sickening to hear them call him a "psychopath" when he is literally just scared and uncomfortable. He did so well with being ridden and handled but it wasn't enough for these awful people, they felt they needed to push him further. Impatience is the cardinal sin of working with animals, I suspect Buck took this risk because he either wanted to "fix" the horse in one day like a miracle worker or he wanted to push the horse to a dramatic breaking point, either outcome was desirable for the sake of the documentary. This horse was failed by everyone there.
It's not Buck's fault at all. He was honest in just what it would take to make that horse safe to be handled and it was obvious to everyone that this woman had zero interest or ability to provide that. Undoing three years of neglect and mishandling would take a lot of work and Buck could not take on every single case like this. The blame lays entirely with the incompetent owner who apparently thought that a clinic could fix the mess that she made of that poor horse.
@@ravanne3746 I think, on the contrary, that if Buck was unable to take on the case, he should have suggested that she send the horse to a trainer who has experience working with wild horses. I am sure he could have steered her to some capable trainers. Simply euthanizing the horse was not the answer, especially since the horse showed some good progress being ridden.
Agree! I was a little surprised even Buck bought into the “mental midget “ opinion about this horse . Also, why didn’t Buck break up the disaster that was obviously brewing? Based on how amazing the horse was during his first ridden experience, he certainly seemed redeemable. He died for that b*+ch’s pride. This is heartbreaking and also very enraging.
Considering how little had been done with that horse, he seemed remarkably patient and forgiving and I wish they would have given him a chance. Isn't three really young anyway. They didn't even give him a chance. poor baby.
Sad situation,I’m 75 years old and have two stallions,six mares,never ever had any problems with my stallions….well mannered at all times❤from the mountains of Kentucky…..thank you!
I love that! I hope to be like you when I’m older! I’m only 16 and dreaming about the day I can get my own horse. A beautiful horse who has good ground manners gentle, kind, and healthy. ❤
Ditto. My boy lives with his "uncle", my 22yo Paso Fino Gelding, and a donkey gelding (around 15-18. Came off the meat truck, so no idea.) The vet came to treat him for a nasty cough and went to put down "Gelding" on her notes and I went "Stallion." She actually ducked her head to check lol. "Wow. I'd never in a million years thought it's a stallion. And he lives with these two all year round?" Yeah, and that's WHY he's so chilled. He knows how to horse. (And my gelding is the boss lol)
I’m no “ wild horse” expert, but that first ride surprised even me! DEFINITELY trainable……he would have been a beautiful ride and companion. SO SAD….she’s an idiot! 😢
That woman was probably choosing words and phrases to make herself sound sympathetic, but she strikes me as suspicious. I feel so bad for that horse. He was mishandled at every turn and didn't get the chance he should've had.
She completely used the accident there as an excuse to put him down. This woman should be ashamed of herself and like you said Raleigh she should be fined and maybe even investigated with all of her other horses!!
Such a shame. I would have loved to see where proper training could have gotten this horse. And I'd love to see more of Buck's training on your channel!
I just got my first horse and I have been driving out every day to see him and build our bond. I listen to him (to a certain extent) and allow him to show me how he wants to be approached and handled. However, I am still boss and I have a great support team helping me learn and be great! I am also looking into training so I can learn even more. I know the basics but owning vs boarding is entirely different and I want Tyson to have the best life with me ❤
It makes me so angry that so many people have this idea in their head that they can “fix” years of learned and NATURAL behavior in one or just a few short training sessions. Even dogs, who I’d say are typically much easier to train, still take more time than this lady has put into her horse 😡
Wow, this was hard to watch. So many mistakes made with that beautiful boy. I'm not quite sure why more ground work wasn't done to establish some trust before throwing a blanket at him in such a manner, but it all started with that woman. She needs to just not own any other living creature. Years ago, we had a young stallion that we acquired as a new herd stallion and he came to us completely sour and angry at the world. He had been promoted extensively as a two and three year old and was just flat out angry. He left a very nasty bite on my mom that could have been much more serious just a few inches over. We decided to let him decompress and just be a horse. We built him a beautiful, large (hotwired) paddock with a huge oak tree in it next to one of the turnout pastures where he could just hang out and see the other horses, run and play. He still got worked but it was light, no intense schooling. It worked wonders! He ended up going back in the ring for a successful career under saddle, was a gentleman at breeding and, when he retired, you could plop two or three kids on him and he would carry them very carefully. It's all in reading the situation and reacting appropriately.
This was actually such a calm stallion, who had the potential to be a total love bug. The owner definitely breeds for color, and color only. She kept a horse who’s probably color bred with no actual quality lineage, no genetic disease testing, and no care at all intact just for color. You notice the stallion gave the man multiple warnings and tried to communicate his fear. He felt he was being bullied. What’s really sad is you can see him trying to understand and reason with the man. Just before the attack he tried to vocalize his struggles because clearly his physical cues weren’t working. Only when the man went to move in, he attacked. (Which was a simple attack and he backed off immediately once his boundaries were set). I hate even calling it an attack, because really all he did was set boundaries the only way he knew how. He was standing up for himself in his mind. It’s scary for any untouched horse to be pretty much chased in a circle with a scary object. The guy was unknowingly just bullying the stallion and he had enough. He’s got basic wild horse behavior and actually is very well behaved. He tried, he wanted to try. The fact that these people thought they could just “break” a pretty much wild stallion like that is beyond me. The stallions intent wasn’t even to harm, he just wanted to be safe. That man is honestly lucky that stallion was such a sweetheart. I really wish someone would have saved this guy. You should have to have a permit to own stallions and breed horses. She’s the lady to produce a foal with genetic diseases and dump them at a Kill pen.
I'm shocked that Buck didn't advise them against putting the horse down, maybe suggest selling him or giving him to a real trainer. Shame. She shouldn't be allowed to own horses after that.
@@dragonmom8406 I know. I question some things Buck does but that’s strange that he didn’t. This whole situation was strange. If it had been me I would have bought the stallion right off the lady. All he needed was someone to work with him slowly, not harass and panic him like they were doing
@@Yomamaluvsme I couldn't agree more. Poor thing. I also get really upset about all the pit bulls who get put down because of stupid people. They're wonderful, resilient dogs and they've shown they respond well to rehabilitation. I don't agree with killing animals who have behavioural issues as a result of mistreatment. It's so wrong.
he was scared of it too, he had already given up on the horse when he said "he's wrecked and as close to being turned into a predator as you're gonna find" @@Yomamaluvsme
NO HATE TO RALEIGH!!! when she said she's never seen a horse try to kill someone i said I HAVE!! there's this horse at my barn his name is Rubin my trainer and owner hates him my barn bestie used to lease him..... she will never even think about getting back on that horse. Rubins owner is insane for still owning him and RIDING HIM. my friend every time she got on him he was bucking and when she would try and jump him he would try so hard to hurt her only his owner can ride him because she is the only one he wont try to hurt. and no my bestie is not a bad rider or was hurting him he is just insane
There's 5 stallions at the professional barn I currently work at. Their manners are impeccable and have sweet dispositions. It's such a privilege to see and work with the owner who displays a level of understanding I've never seen elsewhere. She's patient with them, stern and sets boundaries, kind, understands the natural instincts behind each behavior. I couldn't think of a better mentor than her. My only experience working with stallions is with her, and she makes it look easy and every day. I know it's not, but it sort of punctuates that there's no excuse not to learn.
Wait.. so.. the stallion's mother died while giving birth... The barn burned down .. she broke her back? But she still manages to afford and to drive a golf cart in the pasture? I'm so confused.
AND manages to collect 18 horses over three years. How does her house and barn burn down and the foal be the only horse ok? Where does she live, and where does she bring the horse? Hi did she afford and have a place for 18 others? She’s riddled with lies
I went to my first Buck Brannaman clinic about 1986, when he was just starting out, traveling and helping people with their horses. One young woman came to the clinic on her very dominant stallion. This horse was looking for mares, loudly neighing, prancing all around, paying no attention whatsoever to his rider. Buck spent about 10 minutes with the horse, doing things much like he did in the documentary. Basically, he taught the horse to pay attention to his human, using the pressure and release method that be does so well. He soon had that horse soft and gentle, behaving himself and listening. That clinic was when I first learned about “licking and chewing,” when you know the horse “gets it,” and is thinking it over. So many times over the next 30+ years of going to Buck’s clinics, he would point out this behavior in a horse, and tell the human to “let him be for a while, and let him soak on it.” Horses are so amazingly smart! They just need a chance. They need the human to understand how they think, and it always makes sense.
What's so heartbreaking is that after the attack happened the horse went right up to his 'owner's' voice with his ears forward looking at her like he expected something from her. Maybe seeking some kind of safety or reprieve because she was the only thing in this environment that was familiar to him. But she failed him. The whole reason he was in this situation is because she failed him. And the horse is now dead because of her.
I purchased (I would say rescued) a stallion (not my first experience with one) from a back yard breeding facility. He acted just like the horse in the video. He was starved and kept in a stall 24/7 for 7 years of his life. I obviously gelded him and trained him. It took me 3 slow years, but he’s now such an amazing loving well trained gelding. Even my 7 year old works with him. Most people have no business with a stallion. That’s how they get ruined.
That really shows just how much work it would have taken to get that horse to the point where he would have been safe to be handled, let alone ridden. He would need a lot of one on one focus by a trainer who knows what he's doing and in the hands of an incompetent owner who thought that leaving a stud colt completely unhandled for three years would result in a horse that could be safe for his owner. I hate to think of what state the rest of her stallions are in because if she wasn't able to handle one colt, I doubt that the others are any better.
I'm so glad you make these educational videos. If she had 18 or 19 stallions together I guarantee there was a few fights. If there were fights and she payed attention to the movements and action of those horses she would have known to get that man out. When she acts sad about having to put that horse down it drives me crazy. They are so many people that could have given that horse a great life.I really feel bad for that horse, if she has no experience or education on horses she shouldn't own them period.
One key element you missed.... he didnt have a mom and wasnt offered a nanny mare. Meaning he missed that crucial bonding period... does cause issues in the adult horse... he needed to be raised with a mare to learn basic manners and boundaries
The way she's just passive aggressively nodding, you can tell she's not listening to a word he's saying to her and she isn't going to stop or change anything she's doing.
My mother had the absolutely gorgeous stallion. He was completely uneducated and nervous when we got him but he was such a gentle soul willing to learn and just wanted love. My mum trained him like any other horse and he was so soft to work with. He would love on my sister and I as young kids and was so sweet. Us very young kids could sit on him and be let around in the paddock. Unfortunately we lost him a few years ago when an illegal hunter came into our property in the night and left a gate open between our gelding/mares paddock and him. We lost a mare and him that day. Years later now and my mother and I are training up my boy. One of his sons. He’s gelded, but all of his progeny are so soft and sweet to work with. It’s 100% about how you treat and train them from the moment they’re in your lives.
That woman had 18 stallions.?? Why not geld them? After all, the vet (i hope) was going to do it, not her. If you're not going to breed them, geld them and sell them on for riding horses. What an idiot!
anyone with even slight horse knowledge knows that hand rears, especially colts, are the most tricky and risky to manage. If you can't get a mare to rear it you need a 'foster' parent of some sort to teach them horse manners followed by a lot of training. Can't believe she didn't just cut him and invest in some actual training. He's so beautiful and could've made a stunning trail ride for someone competent Also the bit about brain damage is bollocks. I've seen and helped with foals that have hypoxic injuries at birth. You know. It's hard to get them through it. Even just a dummy foal is seriously challenging to keep alive
It's not brain damage....... but an orphan foal/horse does not relate to humans like a normal horse raised with mares do........ they are much more obnoxious to humans, almost equate humans as another horse...... they are a little harder to handle in ways
@@michellehoyt8218I was going to say something similar. He sees her as another of his species, therefore all humans are horses and because he is a stallion he is displaying stallion behaviour toward them!
Throughout the entire beginning, the stud was so so calm for one who hadnt been touched. He set boundaries, didnt go out of his way to hurt those around him, and was responsive. It's obvious he could have been rehabilitated and kept as a beautiful, kind hearted companion. I saw nothing wrong with him
There was quite a difference between the vibe when Buck was overseeing and without Buck. I think his apprentice is good. But I think his fear was getting in the way. The signs he missed were obvious, but I think he had that mental barrier not allowing him to properly read them. I can understand Buck not taking the horse. Unfortunately, I’m sure he sees a lot of those kind of cases, and it’s understandable he can’t take them all on. And ultimately, it’s not his responsibility to clean up someone else’s mess. Which may be callous but it’s true
He was trying to work with this Stallion like it was a regular horse. Most of us who know ground work saw this coming. Buck should have put the horse in the trailer and sent her on her way.
Buck is an awesome soul! I would love to follow in his shoes! That is my goal. We need more folks like him to save these beautiful creatures from their demise from people who set them up to fail. Buck I would like to meet you one day to continue my journey on who to think like a horse! Never stop learning.
A little over 20 years ago, my neighbours rescued a terribly abused and neglected 4 year old stallion and attempted to work with him, he was exhibiting very similar behaviour to this stallion, though there was a lot more fear there as well. They had him 3 weeks before deciding to euthanise him, after a similar incident that resulted in the neighbour breaking an arm. I was heartbroken when I heard what they were going to do, so, at 19 years old, I made the foolish decision to buy him from them. The decision may have been foolish but at the same time it was the best one I ever made. Under the supervision of an EXCELLENT trainer I spent years building trust and mutual respect with him and even today I say that it was the most meaningful relationship I've ever had with another living thing. Stone died tragically 3 years after I got him, during a break in at our stables, but I feel absolutely blessed to have had the opportunity to work with and become his trusted companion in the years we had each other. The stallion in this video could have been that for someone else, and it breaks my heart that he never got that opportunity.
I got my first stallion in 2021, an off track standardbred. Treated him like all my other rescues, with some personal additions of course, but didn't treat him as if he was dangerous just because he was a stallion. Sweetest horse ever, never had any trouble with him. He was gelded nearly a year ago so that he could live in a herd, this helped him a lot in his recovery process
got my first stallion fall of 2021, he is 3 now, absolute saint of a boy and i love him to pieces… he is currently learning to behave around girls, but man is he such a sweetheart…
My husband has a niece that got an off track standardbred. She retrained him - worked him cross country riding, up and down hills to get him to use his body more naturally instead of the forced gait. She showed us pictures of her riding him at a gallop saddle-less, bridleless. She really invested in him, and he was "her" horse.:)
@svenordger Comment was so he could live in a herd. Don't want him mounting mares or fighting geldings. I remember the results of "proud cut" gelding having savaged a mare.
My trainer has a gelding and he’s REALLY sweet, however when he first was in an English saddle he did nudge my trainer away when I got off. But he’s a really good boy and he did amazing in the English saddle and the way he nudged my trainer did not change his personality. I love him. He isn’t sensitive to loud noises, and he’s gassy and spoiled and that’s why I love him so much. He truly is an amazing horse.
I used to love Buck, till I saw this movie. He is a pro... he knows horse behavior. He knew what this horse was capable of, and yet, they still had no other thought than to take her money to train the horse to ride. The last thing this horse needed was to be ridden. he needed at least 2 weeks of ground work before even thinking of riding him. I don't follow Buck any more. There are way better ways to communicate and build a partnership with than Buck's method. Gordon McKinlay, is my all time favorite. Tom Dorrance is my next favorite.
Pretty sure Bucks still out there doing the great job that he does and could give 2 shits less what you say or if you no longer follow him. He's a professional. He spent time and money just to get there, so he was well with in his right to draw some kind of compensation out of the situation as THATS WHAT HE DOES TO FEED HIS FAMILY GENIUS!
I was a youth worker who took a bunch of kids on a trail camp. On arrival, the horses were still out. After waiting for over an hour, the 14 horses cantered back into the paddock. The owner sent me out with a bucket of food to feed them before we headed off. The horses became frenzied and all fought each other over the food. I was in thr middle of it and my ear was bitten off. I never blamed the horse. I later became educated about how wrong the situation I was put in was. Humans are the messed up ones.
That guy with the saddle blanket should not have been chucking the blanket at him like that…poor horse doesn’t understand what’s being asked of him. The way he keeps approaching the hindquarters waving the blanket like that is like waving a whip at him asking him to move away, yet he’s wanting the horse to accept the blanket being thrown at him 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
@@SobrietyandSolace Leave it on the railing for some time let the horse go up and sniff it! Times I've done that with horses I've trained so they can smell, and see it's okay. Then slowly introduce them to it by holding it, and standing near to them, letting them come close. Not making it scary and going at their hindquarters. Poor horse.
I have gently broke all my horses!! Sit on bucket for weeks to show I’m patient!!! If they are scared I’ll sit forever, they will finally come around! Show things slowly, I can’t , of course he’s going to rush this idiot!!! I’m leaving, crying to hard..
That horse had so much potential. I have no experience in training horses whatsoever and even I can see it. He was super relaxed undersaddle for that having been his first time, and he gave that man so many signals and so many chances to get out of his space until he couldn't anymore and attacked. That horse could've been great, and I feel so bad for him having to have lived the way he did in his short years. May he rest in peace. God Bless
19:30 I feel like he has no clue about reading the horses behavior at all. Even when the horse prepares to attack him, all the other people outside already knew but he still tried to do his blanket move, unbelievable
When I was 13, my mom bought me a Peruvian Paso stud from a woman who was absolutely petrified of him. The woman had just moved him to the barn we were at and he was absolutely stunning but she was so scared of him and also had severe asthma so since she couldn't handle him, she just left him in his stud stall like all the time! So one day I asked her if she minded if I took him out to the pasture and she said "If you can handle him, you can do anything you want with him!" For context, I started riding at 8 years old, had absolutely no fear and was the person everyone would ask to ride their horse first if they hadn't been worked in a while or something. So I started working with him, oh and his name was Diablo, if that gives you any clue as to his personality, lmao. To make a long story short, my mom ended up buying him because the woman realized that I was much better suited to care for him. The very first thing we did was have him gelded and within a couple of weeks, he was like a different horse. I can't believe that she just had this horse killed without even trying to tell him first!!!
The owner's words don't match her actions. Putting him down was cheap in terms of time and money. Every other option would have required further investment, especially time, to even get the horse ready & safe for sale. In her mind his death was preferable to her taking responsibility for his wellbeing. She shouldn't own horses because she neglected this stallion & justified abusing him because she was physically injured by this horse. Let's hope she gains enough health to responsibly let go of any other horses she may own.
I’m infinitely grateful that you made this video. Just watched this movie with my Animal Science class (they are not horse people, just me) and had a full on argument with a teacher about the fact that they could’ve gelded & trained that horse but they chose not to…glad I’m not the only one that feels that way, sometimes the absolute lack of horse sense people have makes me think I’m losing it
My daughter bought a stallion at 10 months. He reared and bit at his former home. He didn't act like that at our home. I had an arthritis flare up in my neck one day when I went out to feed. I told him he needs to be nice, I was in pain and he can't make me move fast. He did big circles around me, gettting closer and closer and then put his head next to my neck. He's now almost 3. First time my daughter saddled him, she rode. He needed some neck reining training of course. He is the sweetest guy you would ever meet. Does everything you tell him. And we never, ever had to be rough on him. Just talking to him.
@@annmarygarcia1321 and the same to you, the largest animal I’ve shared a home with was my Nanna’s German Shepard mix after she passed, I can’t imagine the care a full-size horse would need (housing, feed, hoof-care, foal-prevention, etc) though I have nothing but admiration for those who can give one a good home. Blessed be and thanks for making my Cake Day better with this lovely reply 💙🐱💙
We had about 50 horses growing up! This entire thing is deplorable! How could she have murdered an innocent beautiful creature!!! She should have gotten Ryan Rose!! I am crying!!!!
One thing we have to remember is we're only seeing what the editors chose for us to see. We don't know all the nitty gritty details that caused them to come to the conclusion that the horse needed to be euthanized. I will say that I don't believe the horse should have been put down, based on the footage we can see, but we don't know if the trainer DID try to buy the horse from her or stop something before it got bad, or if the other trainer was trying to show off, etc. We just don't know. I don't own horses now, but my parents owned a paint, a beautiful palomino (both mares) and a gelding Shetland pony when I was younger. The palomino, whom we named Misty Maiden, came from an abusive owner, but we didn't realize it at the time. When the guy brought her and put her in the pasture, once the money was exchanged, Misty took the guy's hat off his head and threw it far out of the pasture (we still laugh about it now, haha). There were other signs that the guy abused her, such as biting me when I was gently petting her mane, getting upset around a certain area when we brushed her, and bucking when my dad would kick her a certain way when riding. I have an ex sister-in-law who reminds me very much of this woman. It was upsetting at the time, knowing she had WAY too many horses than she could take care of and she did NOT know what she was doing. When working with Misty (we had to sell her because we moved into the suburbs), she would crow hop, would not listen to commands, and snapped, even though we had fully trained her (she wasn't when we bought her). It was heartbreaking to see her in such distress with the woman. I don't know whatever happened to her. I get that people want to live the dream of owning a horse, but it's like you said, you need to know what you're doing. It's the same with any animal; if you don't know how to take care of them properly, they will become wild and they will suffer. Some people frankly shouldn't own animals, especially horses. That's the reason why I don't own horses; I may like the IDEA of having a horse, but I don't have the physical, emotional, or mental capacity to take proper care of them. Or the proper education, other than what my parents taught me.
I had a beautiful anglo arab mare who was abused before I bought her. She would bolt as soon as she saw a rope or halter due to having been dragged around with a rope on her muzzle so badly it injured her. Time, effort and kindness meant she learnt to trust me. By a couple of years she was the bossy lead mare but gentle enough my younger cousins could handle and ride her. Sadly her son, from her and my stallion, was trusted to a local trainer who used spurs on him without permission the first time the poor boy was ridden. He promptly buxked him off, which was very out of character for him. We ended up deciding not to continue riding training with him and he's a very sweet and well loved companion horse.
And? This horse deserves to find many other places of trainers period this horse deserves a chance and many of them we give useless humans to many chances but it’s ok to kill this horse that soon? Give me a break I don’t care what parts are edited or anything it’s a living breathing animal who has the right to live and if they can’t help it then a rescue can that allows it to just live as a horse period they failed this horse period.
@@RabbitAndTheLabBestFriends Did you not read my comment? I agree with you. But in my opinion, we as a society tend to judge things too quickly based on what we see online. Based on what we can see, yes, this horse was not cared for properly, but like I said, when you're working for a television crew, there are things that will not be tolerated which people agreed to in writing. I don't think it's right, especially based on what we can see happened, but it is the world we live in, unfortunately. Also, I don't believe anyone is "useless." People can act useless, or dumb, but that doesn't make the people themselves dumb or useless. In my opinion, name calling of any kind is a form of bullying, but you can do what you want, I won't judge. Just giving my perspective on what 20 years of observation and experience has taught me.
This happens with all animals. My sister used to raise and show shin tzus. Almost exactly the same as this gorgeous stallion. The reputable breeders/show people usually know and talk to each other. A couple bought a gorgeous Australian shepherd. The breeder questioned them closely about their knowledge of the breed. They checked all the right ‘boxes’. The dog was left alone all day every day and finally chocked to death on the small rug near his bed. They were furious about the ‘defective’ dog. They were supposed to be ‘smart’. They got my sisters name and contacted her. They were shocked. She wouldn’t even let them come look at the pups. She explained very ‘professionally’ that there was no way in hell, one of her pups would co exist with them. Where was this woman getting her horses? I’ve seen vets refuse to put down a perfectly trainable/fixable animal. Where did she find this ‘vet’?
To be fair not every horse is fixable. She probably messed this horse up so bad to where the damage isn’t reversible. She had him using the bathroom in a human baby diaper for Christ sake. Sometimes putting the horse down especially if it can cause a danger to others or himself and his herd mates is the best most humane option. This horse had one huge part of his life missing a mare to teach him and also nurture him and herd mates to follow. Putting this horse down was the right decision. It’s a hard one but the right one.
She missed her chance to have the most sensible and trustworthy stallion. If she just spent more time with him right from the moment he was born, he would’ve been such a beautiful horse
It sounds like she spent lots of time with him actually. That’s the opposite of what you want when they’re babies, they need to be around horses so they can learn manners. She bottle fed this horse from birth and kept him in her house, she let him be a spoiled brat but it wasn’t an issue until he got big enough to be dangerous.
Actually, she still could have had amazing stallion. He was totally fine, if she fould any NORMAL trainer who would just train him he would be amazing. But she found a person who breaks horse souls and he didn't crush. That's the whole story.
@@skinsciencebymirashe turned him into a spoiled brat, who knew she was at his beck & call….then threw him in a pasture & neglected him for a couple years. Ofc he’s confused & traumatized
That horse reminds me a lot of one of my dogs, Killua, a pure bred American Bully. It was my fault he turned out the way he did. I was too aggressive and with breed stigma, I was afraid to even let people near him because he was so rowdy. That turned him into what that horse was. Our first session with the dog trainer even looked similarly to their second session of blanket desensitization, Killua was biting the dog trainer but thankfully he didn’t give up. Now, Killua is amazing. He’s spent a couple nights at the dog trainer’s house when I was away for training, we can walk by people and dogs without him lunging, I can bring over new people to meet him through his crate, he’s really turned into an amazing dog and it saddens me that they gave up on that horse so quickly… Not only that, but like you said, they jumped into it too quickly with the blanket and they needed to back up and start again. Start with brushing. If not, then start with petting. You crawl, walk, then run.
I’m no where close to being a horse expert, but the fact the horse waited and faced the guy three separate times instead of immediately attacking shows that horse was aware and REALLY didn’t want to attack. A gorgeous life just thrown away.
He seems very intelligent and aware. I'm sure all he needed was patience and more than just one or two sessions. I definitely agree with Raleigh on this stallion behaving more like a wild mustang. And, we know that mustangs CAN be trained. 100% a gorgeous life thrown away.
The horse was acting like a stallion....... facing off another stallion....... orphans don't see people like people, they treat people like another horse. The trainer was trying to back him off and desensitize like a normal horse, but every time he touched him there....... which is a challenge fight spot for stallions, that horse wasn't just saying no..... it was squaring up like he was fighting another horse........ that horse had no path with humans to become normal
@@michellehoyt8218 I do not know about that. If kept with a well behaved horse (roll model) instead of those hooligans she has at home he could have learned some "decent" horsebehaviour. But he did not stand a chance if she was still in the picture.
If a mare dies overhere (during of after foaling) everybody immediately starts looking for a fostermum, if not for the milk, then for the education ...
Right. He 100% warned him multiple times. And then, stopped once he knew the man was down. To me, thats definitely not a "dangerous" horse. That a horse that is acting instinctively.
@@amandafortin640 that is what touched me, too. Instead of biting multiple times or trampling over his foe, he attacked once and then stood still. I almost cried watching this.
When I got my first horse I had her professionally trained and the trainer would not allow me to ride her until he trained me. She was so wonderful to ride. I’ll never forget that time and forever thankful.
Smart trainer.
Me too! She trained us together!!
Sounds like a wonderful trainer, and that he wanted you and your horse to have the best relationship.
I took equestrian vaulting lessons from a woman who was only 5 feet tall and she owns 3 stallions (all draft breeds). The one I had most lessons on was a 17-18 hand tall Percheron stallion. She was able to load all 3 of them into a trailer, bathe them, perform on them (they even listened to vocal commands like "trot" "walk" "lope" when she was on them or on the ground). She was amazing with those horses.
There are no excuses, only failures.
So you're saying you were trained Epona, by the goddess of horses?
@@motorcitymangababe If you know how to handle studs and stallions, they are just like any other horse.
No need to be a goddess of horses for it x)
Some can be wonderful , especially when they have a job daily ❤️
@@linneahelander8338 fair, I just meant the image of a short woman with 3 giant horses she's living with (I've been doing research for a book, got goddesses on the brain lol)
@@kristiwetsel9531 the daily job makes a huge difference. Also, horse-wo-man-ship. Percherons particularly have a reputation to be really big friendly souls who work their butts off for you if you treat them like partners not slaves.
Mind, most heavy warmblood lines in Europe, i. e. were bred for farmers to be easy to handle. So, no breeding with "crackpots" with an eruptive temperament, bad attitude or "nerves". With the demand for sport horses (faster, higher, wider) the focus changed and they started breeding not only with lots of thoroughbred etc (which is quite ok if you want a lighter riding horse) but also with any kind of "crazed genius" just for its gaits and jumping capacity.
Some breeds still have mostly quiet friendly studs that can be handled if you know how to, but some are.... hm... different. But its never the animal's fault, mind!
In my own horse's blood line, studs were in fact aggressive and very "driven" by their hormons - but difficult to say, in dumb hands they all get cranky and start irritable behaviour.
That horse was INCREDIBLY patient and tolerant. Giving the guy multiple warnings of, "Hey, I'm gonna stand my ground, hey, I'm GONNA stand my ground!"
That horse seemed incredibly trainable, just really nervous around people and objects because he hasn't had interactions with them before.
The fact that they managed to get a saddle and person on him at all tbh. He could have bucked or reared at any point there, but he only put up a little fuss here or there.
And notice. When the guy gets on him, the horse does NOT have his ears pinned back the whole time. If he were pissed, those ears would be glued back. He was PERFECTLY capable of learning to be ridden and well.
I completely agree. The horse could have done fine. But, she essentially trained him not to be.
I think those trainers are dodgy too. Like comparing the horse to a disabled child? And then saying (at 22:32): "So you could have taken that disabled child and turn him into somethin of VALUE", like excuse me? Would these people euthanize disabled kids too? The fucc?
@@AmarisFrede Yeah, I‘m sorry but I really don’t like Buck because of this, that sentence is absolutely disgusting. As if disabled kids didn’t have inherent value as human beings…
@@AmarisFredeI think he probably meant that you can teach the child skills to better himself and function (on a "normal" level) in society, not that 'disabled' children/people aren't valuable. That's my takeaway. ((Although, the same is true for ANY child, regardless of disabilities.))
Sometimes people don't say things exactly how they're meant.
And I have a child with special needs. He is my whole world. ❤ People don't always know how to speak about certain things in a way that won't offend others. Words can easily be misconstrued. I've learned that with time.
He also called the horse an SOB and a predator. He probably did cost this horse his life indirectly because the "owner" was embarassed by his justifiable insults @@AmarisFrede
Once she realized that they were placing the blame at her feet, she didn't WANT them to be able to rehabilitate this poor horse. She wanted him to be a lost cause so she could say "see, even the professionals couldn't help him!" She definitely keeps telling everyone that he had brain damage that made him aggressive. Disgusting.
I agree she put him down instead of giving him a chance .
That is your projection...we really don't know what was in her head....I think she was extremely embarrased and humbled at that point, and felt really bad that the guy was hurt and she was afraid he was going to hurt more folks. It was an overall difficult situation, sure she could have handled it better. But this demonizing this girl is truly distasteful and reveals something about your own character.
And in a comment a few down from here it says someone watched the film with Buck who said this horse was NOT put down but turned out to pasture the rest of his life...she came back to one of his clinics with a different horse and got rid of a lot of her studs but still have some.
They were going too fast for the horse for one. You go with way smaller initial movements until he adapts to those first. You can get away with pushing hard SOMETIMES with a very tame horse that is used to be handled otherwise. But this horse is still wild and also a stallion, they need to at least get basic halter breaking done before flailing a rug at him and also they need to introduce it more slowly. Horse people should know that a stallion is naturally not going to tolerate as much.
@@myronschabeIt should have been.
I feel your anger
She definitely is a backyard breeder. There is no other reason for her to be so incompetent but still own a dozen studs.
If she has that many studs I can only imagine the amount of mares
@@sherrihawkins1864 Maybe she's one of those that posts online/local ads as a studfarm. Who knows.
But if she DOES have mares too...oh boy, the poor creatures.
English isn't my first language, is a stud a stallion for breeding?
@@straycat3476 Yes, a gelding is a horse with no nuts
@@straycat3476 Yes! Breedings when talking about the stallion's aspect of the deal are also called studding. You can see alot of breeders advertize studdings for money online, not just for horses tho. Studs are intact/not castrated males. Most commonly people talk about dogs or horses tho when using the term. :)
Maybe it's just me, but I feel like putting him down for essentially setting boundaries is like punishing a victim of assault or bullying for defending themselves. Sick.
He's such a beautiful horse too. Breaks my heart.
Or maybe gelded him
@@slcheichmovies8015 What do you mean by that?
This was maybe the wrong kind of handling of this horse who had no education
@@littlepony8571 buck is one of the greats , he has plenty of education and experience. The guy that was attacked was his prodigy or assistant. They did what they could. Just a sad situation. The horse getting put down lands squarely on this lady’s shoulders
@@Ambelica well I appreciate the dilemma. No problem horses only problem owners. My comments were on sometimes the unwillingness of people to offer a hand. But yes often that hand isn't welcomed and alway at the expense of the horse
I remember watching this and thinking "How is she still alive?" She was ABSOLUTELY the worst type of horse owner alive and this horse paid the price. NO ONE needs 16 stallions! The most stallions I've had at the ranch were 3, and they were broke, handled, and knew their jobs. You can do anything you want with them because they were raised to know respect and how to be handled. I love how Buck just took her down gradually, but letting her know in no uncertain terms that she was the problem. I believe she still had all those other stallions after the filming and never did anything with them either. What a looney tune!
To be honest I'm not that impressed with Buck at all. That horse didn't have brain damage and he shouldn't have even went down that road. Nothing wrong with that horse other than he hadn't been worked with enough and he was surrounded by 17 or 18 other stallions
T.Y. MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY!! Why force a raw horse
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" UGH"! Buck should've stopped this!- ?? U- TUBE/ MOVIE CONTENT?$$$
And the fact that she killed the horse is terrible. I really hate that we breathe the same air. 😞
She ruined the horse, put everyone in danger...became embarrassed and euthanised him to 'save face'. He didn't try to kill the man, the most dangerous thing there is her...
Anyone have a name for this trash human? Just curious lol
I just want to “talk”
Yeah some people are a waste of oxygen-
I hate that she is still breathing-
@@-_Serena_- agree
She really went and treated a horse like a puppy and was shocked when it acted like an grown ass stallion. She is clearly very inexperienced and has no business having a damn stallion in her care, let alone 18? She is a fool pretty much.
Not just inexperienced but ignorant which is worse. It's a shame that irresponsible and inept people get away with their mediocre practices as animal owners 😢
I have a feeling that she’s either lying about having 18 stallions at her house/barn or she’s just a psychopath who thinks it’s cool to own 18 stallions, those poor horses should be taken away from her tbh, I have a feeling that that’s not the first time she’s gonna put a horse down for acting like one.
No kidding! Of course they need shelter and human contact if they’re going to be domesticated, but they NEED to be able to go outside and run and graze and socialize with other horses. They HAVE TO.
That woman is the horse world's equivalent of a dog hoarder with some mental health issues calling themselves a "rescue." They have dozens of dogs wasting away in filthy crates 24/7, can't/won't take proper care of them, and will still go out and collect more because they need to SaVe ThEm AlL!
Yep. I’ve rescued dogs from places like that , and they were busted. It’s so sick and so cruel.
yeah, I'm in the dog world not the horse world but there seem to be a lot of similarities. You see the same different sorts of people.
I like how he told her that the horse tells him a lot about her
Definitely. Animals are our mirrors. They reflect who we are.
Honestly I think that might be the moment she decided to kill the horse. 😢
He antagonized the horse until he got a reaction. That was his fault, not the horse's. That horse told him over and over and over again, but he ignored it. These people all suck! Edit: except Buck. He's exactly right. I wish I had known about this horse. I could have fixed the situation. I know, because I bought a stallion exactly like this for $150. He was even worse, truth be told, and I turned him into the best horse I ever owned. He was literally so good I could put a 7 year old little girl on him and he was absolutely sweet as pie with her.
i wanna like this, but it's at 69, so take this reply instead :D
Wow, good for you!!
I AM SO UPSET THAT THEY euthanize EUTHANIZED THIS YOUNG & BEAUTIFUL STALLION!!! ITS UNEDUCATED IDIOTS THAT DONT THINK OUTSIDE THE G.D BOX !! THIS HORSE COULD HAVE HAD A NICE, SAFE, FUN LIFE BUT NO... This Girl Is Right!!!
I FULLY AGREE 110% WITH YOU. ITS SOO MESSED UP WHAT THEY DID. THEY SHOULD NOT BE DEALING WITH HORSES ESP IF THEY ARE GOING AROUND EUTH.
The guy in video w palomino is an idiot. To throw a sack on a horse over and over and over,!!!! The point being????? Besides aggravating it to no end. Then act like oh woe is me!? Deserve what you got!!
That stallion was mesmerisingly gorgeous. I'm Hungarian, I love horses and I grew up watching Magyar Népmesék (Hungarian Folk Tales) so naturally, this stud reminded me of a táltos horse, a magical steed that can fly or run as fast as thought does in our mind. This horse could've been called a golden táltos, he definitely had the capability to be that.
So, that woman isn't just insane. She's a disgrace not just to every horse owner/rider but to humanity as a whole. She practically murdered one of the most beautiful creatures I've ever seen in my life and I'm grieving, knowing this young stallion lost his life merely because of her neglect and idiocy.
Same, that stallion is my dream horse he is perfect in every way. He wouldn't even have taken much work, it would've been a joy to help him learn. Just time. Shame he happened to end up with her, as well as the other stallions. She doesn't appreciate them at all.
ehhhhh he looked like an average to low quality stock bred horse. Only nice part was he was a pretty color. Trust me - we have MUCH better horses than this poor example.
A mesebeli aranyszőrű táltos aki lerúgja az égről a csillagokat és egyetlen ugrással elrepít az Óperenciás-tengeren is túlra. Egyetértek. Szörnyű, hogy ilyen emberek léteznek egyáltalán.
@@redorsey3995 horse shaming is wild
@@safeundergroundpools Nope - just being honest, which is a lost concept in the horse business.
I was honestly ASTONISHED how well he did under saddle for the first time, he could've really turned around with the right approach and patience
He only did that well because he knew his foot was tied up. Try bucking and he only injures himself. I agree with everyone that it's a shame, the horse wasn't crazy. He just had been completely neglected by his owner. I hope she either learned from this or no longer has horses.
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@@cherylnicole9578 No, I have a 5 month old filly who has never had any training at all and never been handled, had her for about 2 weeks now, she’s the most gentle horse I’ve seen that has never been handled and I was even able to put a light weight saddle pad on her and she was just good as gold
@@Imkindadumb_7 You and your filly are having this good experience because your filly never got the impression that she's Paris Hilton's chihuahua. This palomino's life was pure tragedy.
@@cherylnicole9578horses arent capable of the kind of thought you are implying here. they know short term consequences, but if the horse has never been in a situation where it got hurt from having a leg roped under saddle, it wont now that it can injure itself.
I absolutely agree with you. When I was in 4th grade, my dad and 3 of his friends decided to go on a benefit ride from Hobart IN to Ft. Wayne IN for the Cancer Society. We were the only ones who didn't have a horse, and we knew nothing about caring for one either. We were so blessed, though. The horse my Dad finally bought, Raya, was much older than the rest of the horses going on the ride. The other men kept telling my Dad he had made a huge mistake and that Raya was never going to complete the ride. Dad decided to keep Raya at the stables he had been kept with his old owner. The lady that owned the stable when it came time for the benefit ride a vet was there at tge so knowledgeable about horses and Raya in particular. Audrey talked to another lady to see if she could give us all riding lessons. She said yes, and our journey began. As it turned out, Raya was such a versatile horse. My Dad and sister rode Western and they both learned to barrel race. I liked huntseat and was learning how to jump after I learned to ride well. We rode Raya 7 days a week for about 4-5 hours, rain, shine snow, didn't matter. We had an excellent farrier and vet. We loved Raya so much, and we all loved riding him.
The vet gave all of the horses a full check-up a couple weeks before the ride. He said our horse was in near racing condition. He was so beautiful. All muscled up, and his tummy was nice and flat. The other horses were flabby and had big old bellies. The vet said Raya was in the best shape he'd ever seen him. Every few days, the vet would be at their next camping site to check the horses over after they'd been ridden all day. Raya's heartbeat was always the lowest because he was a true athlete. The other 3 horses were struggling. Raya was also the best behaved horse. I am so proud of our family for taking part in Dad's ride. Dad kept Raya after the ride. We had so much fun riding and just being with our horse that Dad couldn't sell him. We had many good years riding him in shows, trail riding and in parades too. I miss the old guy. I would bet that he and Dad have gotten back together in heaven, and they're riding with our pastor and his horse Rusty. I sure hope that's true.
As someone who has rehabilitated a bunch of horses, this is heartbreaking. This horse was absolutely redeemable. He didn.t mean bad, he was just a horse, with hormones he couldn't handle and no proper socialization. I liked buck's suggestion of gelding him, getting him into a herd, where mares would teach him manners and working with him. This guy could have been amazing. What a senseless, needless death.
I just am confused why he was chasing the horse with a blanket though, maybe different training styles but I would have got him tied up first to get used to being handled.
Especially after the great work he did earlier which proved beyond any shadow of a doubt the horse just needed work and human handling and a few mares to put him in his place after his balls removed!
@@rsh793 He was chasing him because he doesn't know what he is doing. This is a wild stallion with normal horse behavior, This horse has been neglected for 3 years and has no ground work whatsoever and it's so sad that they wasted his life due to their irresponsibility. Buck at least tried and made a suggestion unlike the other guy and woman.
@@militarycrosssans6983 this was Bucks person though wasn't it so his way
@@rsh793 He should've gotten the hint the horse gave let alone if he is working with Buck, It is not hard to notice warning sign behaviors I'm pretty sure Buck even knows that as well.
So the guy chasing the horse probably wouldn't know what the hell to do all the other times had Buck not instructed him.
@@rsh793 me too. That made no sense. Also buck was there the first time in control. Not the second time. It was just stupid. Asking for trouble.
We got a horse like this at my job. He had been left in a pasture, ungelded, unhandled at all until four years old. He ran over my boss because of fear of going into the barn so he went to a trainer with more time to work with him and, shocker, was under saddle and working well with people!!
Horses deserve to be given the time and energy they need to learn
As the former owner of a Tennessee walking horse stallion, that I bred to a small herd, I have to say that horse was raised terribly. I got him as a weanling, he spent his younger years with an old broodmare, as well as a few other mares and geldings. Regular handling, the same as any other horse, freedom to associate and develop his mind, started under saddle at 2 but not really ridden much until 3, but handled in the same way as the rest, demanding the same behavior, and having that old mare really shaped his behavior, so did not geld him, as unless you saw the testicles, you would not realize he wasn't. he went on to be my safest most reliable horse for 27 years, babysat my kids from toddlers to my grandkids, nieces and nephews, etc. A 2 year old could lead him anywhere, head down so he could see, slow and gentle, if put them up on his back, he would slowly graze or munch hay , always caring for his charge. I will always miss him, but I certainly agree, not all horses should be stallions, not all people should own horses
Yeah, I've had a stallion (off the track colt) before but I'd had mares and gelding before and made sure I got mentoring in how to train and look after him. He was a wonderful horse, very well mannered. I think the treatment of stallions is often cruel and inhumane. So many breeding stallions lead boring, contained and isolated lives and then get labelled as aggressive when what they need is socialisation and training. A trained stallion that can socialise is a much much happier stallion. Mine had a lil herd of mares and was polite enough to my gelding that lived across the fence from him. When riding he might notice mares but when I redirected his attention to me, he listened and behaved. He had four foals, one of which my family still has. a lovely anglo arab gelding who is locally famous haha! Often my grandfather that has him goes 'oh that's my horse' when people post pictures of visiting him on social media.
I know of a North swedish stallion, that toddlers could lead.
A very sweet horse, and propperly handlede throughout his life.
Now his trotting career is over, he is only used as a stud.
Riding a 2 year old is abuse....
@@charliehendry3426 omg you really dont know anything🤣
I follow a child who rides, loves and jumps a 16 hand dream stallion. Not all stallions are wild and crazy.
I got a stallion when I was 7 for Christmas. He had been abused by his previous owner. He was a good horse to ride but one day when I was putting him back in his stall after a ride he got feisty and reared up and bit me right on the chest like her only a bit lower. Man that hurt but I didn’t have him put down. He did it in response to a female in heat close by. I did however agree to geld him never had another incident like that. His only bad habit was he would lay down and role on you if smacked on the butt with the reins. That’s what he did when the previous owner tried to ride him. Bucky wouldn’t do what he wanted and was smacking him. So he laid down and roled on him saddle and all.
In response to Buck, taking that horse, fixing him, so to speak, Would take hours and hours, Days and days of precious time that he did not have.
I heard stories about my great grandparents owning a few horses. The only one that nobody loves but Great Grandpa was a horse named Stormy. Nothing wrong with them just stuck up 😂
Your obviously extremely inexperienced…please seek a professional
That horse actually looked very polite for a three year old unhandled stallion considering the circumstances. He just seems so scared and confused and kicks into fight for flight which is totally normal behaviour!!!!
Imagine going from total isolation in a field for 2 and a half years, to being ragged around and treated like shit - I think he would’ve been a beautiful natured horse with some patience, love, gradual exposure training and positive reinforcement. He looks so sweet :(
Ya, even if you don't have the skills to train such a horse to be rideable, at least train him enough to be a good pet. I've worked with horses who were just too much for me to train (I'm absolutely no trainer, but knew people who just had horses out on the pasture they didn't have time for, so I did what I could). At the very least, I gained their trust, could handle them, groom them, do ground work with them, and even a little riding in a round pen. It's just awful what this woman did to that poor horse.
This is so incredibly sad. 😢 I agree with you 💯 %. That woman should be jailed .🤬
Seriously it seemed like his base temperament was fantastic! He was just a completely untrained, wild stallion, and he was overwhelmed!
Did you notice the scars all over his face and body? She definitely abuses him and is lying and making excuses. She deserves everything she has gotten that is unbelievable.
If he's turned out with a dozen studs it's reasonable to assume most of the marks are from them, but I also guarantee that the only interaction this bitch has with her studs is to beat them.
@@kayawinchell182 yeah you’re right but some of them definitely look not normal for horse buck marks. She never addressed the fact either which if I were her I would have said it was from the other studs if it actually was from them..
If he's in a big bachelor herd they're definitely from other horses. Any horse in a herd will have some scars.
@@thewerewolfofwaggawagga8818 not always.
Edit: some will not if they are well behaved and not aggressive or wild. When you chose a herd of horses together you should pay attention to their behavior when put it if they show aggression pull them. It’s obvious the first few minutes. At least this is what I would do. But I also wouldn’t have more than five horses together unless I trust them.
@@Toad_bonk Uh... no? Unless they're getting beat up on the regular and absolutely COVERED in open wounds, or get majorly injured -- it is perfectly NORMAL horse herd behavior to have scuffles on the regular, and end up with some small bite or kick marks. Sure, if one of the horses is CLEARLY being badly beat up and bottom of the herd? Struggling to eat? Not integrated into the group? Pull them and move them to a more chill herd. But all horses get some scars if you let them have this perfectly natural social interaction.
I completely agree. This horse could have been amazing, yet she still decided to neglect it for 3 YEARS. Why the heck would you put this innocent horse down. People who do not know what they are doing should NOT have horses. I can’t believe her. What an idiot. Thank you for educating us with every video you make Raleigh.
how many studs were at her place? Nearly 20? And she had no time for none of them, still bought them or collected them or kept them... aren*t they called animal horders?
Gives me the creep. Here in Europe, people often have far less space to keep horses. So they stuff a small terrain and stables up to the roof and still lack time, money and strength to keep things rolling. Why do you need 2, 3, 8 or more horses if you have only one a*** to sit on ONE at a time? Same with dogs. Tell me that a breeder with 17 dogs has time to take care equally well of all of them? NOPE.
@@MollyGrue1 exactly. So dumb. I hate people like this. It’s genuinely disgusting.
I agree 💯 with you, I am devastated to hear what happened to him. He did not deserve that. He didn't like her because he knew she was a shitty human. Eff that lady. Sorry for the language bit I'm so angry. I want to go mishandle her right off a bridge.
Well one damned good reason to have more than 1 horse alone is that unless you have that 1 horse working full time is that horses are first & foremost herd animals. It would be like locking an innocent person up in solitary confinement for their whole life except for an occasional few moments in the company of an apex predator like a lioness or tiger... because in many ways, that's exactly how a horse with infrequent human contact views us humans.
This kind of thing happens with cat and dog owners too. They think the animal is crazy, and will think no one else could take better care of the pet. The sheer arrogance of thinking that it's unfixable just bc YOU couldn't fix it (or even were the one to cause the problem) is such a... frustrating bad pet owner tendency.
My friend's mom had a Lipizzaner stallion that kicked her while she was in the stall with it. She even lost a kidney because of him. Yet she still blamed herself for putting her guard down knowing him and his personality. She never put him down or labeled him a ruined horse. She still rides him to this day.
I know this was months ago but I hope your friends mum is ok
I mean, she should have.
@@Julesy980no she shouldnt, the horse could have been feeling threatened
Your friends mom is a good person
This colt was 3 years old and wasn't even halter broke, he'd had NO training other than teaching him that he was on the top of the pecking order.. he also learned stud behavior by being kept with possibly 18 other stallions.. this was his first day of school and in another year he's a grown up.
Just like children.. do we let them run amuck until they are 17 and then send them to college without learning kindergarten when the kid doesn't even know how to spell his name or zip his coat?? This woman is a disaster...
This poor horse never got a real chance... so incredibly sad..
I know I'm late to the game, but Buck Brannaman came to a horsemanship conference at my school last year. We ended up watching the Buck documentary with him there, and he talked about this particular situation after it was over. The horse didn't end up being put down, he was turned out in a pasture for the rest of his life and no one ever really did anything else with him. She actually showed up at another one of his clinics a few years later with a different horse. She also got rid of many of her studs, but she still has a few.
I would have been too mortified to ever attend another clinic, but then I'm not an attention-seeking narcissist like this lady.
Glad to know he wasn't punished for her mistakes
So glad he wasn’t destroyed. I just wish they’d cut him and then trained him properly.
I just couldn’t freaking watch. I’m so sad to know HSUS hasn’t intervened and charged her with criminal abuse and neglect. She belongs in prison.
Poor horse, what a lonely life he lead….glad he at least was out to pasture and not bothered by shit-crusted asshats anymore.
She really was a piece of work - that borders on Cluster B to show up with another horse. Incredulous 😒🙄
Someone is on here lying and causing drama, because the horse was never ever put down, the ignorant trainer, unexperienced as he was, was showing fear and too much agreesiveness and catch the signs from this horse, being threatful toward the horse and with short days of sessions won't work could taken at least 2 weeks and even a couple of months to get this horse trained and in time the horse would of been a beautiful horse to own and to enjoy riding for many years if the horse were taken over from Buck Brannaman it would of been completely different and a great horse to have owned ...
"Its not a horse problem, its a person problem" is the exact same reason why I gave up my pursuit of being a dog trainer for others
Same here.
YES!! So true with so MANY animals!! It’s not the animal…, no matter what it is… it generally ALWAYS humans that are the problem. In 42 years as a professional trainer, I only came across TWO horses in my career that really did have a mental
Issue that made them dangerous. And that was verified by top vets, not just guessed at.
I have a policy that if the person I am training is not doing what I ask or behaves with mean intentions towards their dogs, I fire them immediately.
You're 100% right. It's not worth putting your time and effort into someone who blames everyone else for their mistakes. They never learn and they will turn it on you eventually.
I swiveled that idea into becoming a dog groomer. I'm still learning and will not have my own private practice for a few more years but I plan on specializing with disabled, senior, and 'behaviorally challenged' dogs. Raleigh and some hoof maintenance channels (as well as my love for horses, cows, sheep, etc) have me thinking about also offering general hoof care and coat maintenance too 👀 is a horse groomer a thing??
I remember seeing a dog training show & the women manage to correct a dog behavior & she told the owner what he shouldn't do. The trainer went away & the owner broke all the progress by doing what the trainer said he shouldn't do. In some episodes the trainer had to threaten the owners of taking the dogs away because of negligence or abusive behavior. You had to deal with people as much as with the animals. I can't.
I got accidentally bit by a horse, while she was trying to bite away a fly. so her saying “the bite will be there for the rest of my life.” Is absolutely BS. My bite is already almost healed, and I honestly think SHE has brain damage. That horse is absolutely beautiful, and I’ve been around stallions and studs before. They can be very sweet, sure they have more energy, but she shouldn’t ever own one. She doesn’t know what she’s doing.
I just recently watched Buck. Wonderful movie. I was MORTIFIED when I saw this horrific attack on the handler. I’m stunned Dan wasn’t harmed far worse. This horse is that FREAKS creation. I was so glad when Buck told her “you’re crazy lady” when she “proudly proclaims” that she had 18 stallions. She is NOT an equestrian. She is DESTROYING the lives of every equine she “owns”. They are, in her twisted mind, showpieces for her. Thank you for covering this.
Definitely not an equestrian, she's a horse hoarder. If you watch the attack in slow motion, the horse wasn't trying to kill or seriously hurt Dan, he just wanted Dan to leave him alone. Sure, he bit Dan, but he then moved so he didn't step on him and didn't pursue the attack any further when he could have killed him.
Truly Discusting that dhe put him down when he was kike that because of her! She shouldn't be allowed to ever own any horses ever again! She us one of those that thinks she looks good to other people when she says she has 18 stallio s running together on her place,reality is she looks ignorant! Bet they can't be handled maybe one or two can be handled and ridden but the rest are out fighting and running not groomed,vetted,teeth floated,farrier work or anything else because She is a Stud Owner Breeder who is trying to make Money and doesn't give a damn about her horses! If she did that little horse wouldn't have ever been a stud to begin with and sure as hell wouldn't have acted like that and your 1000 percent right she only kept him a stuf because he was good looking and she wanted to profit off his looks...that horse wasn't brain damaged! I don't think Buck has the time to take that horse and more so I would say he didn't take him knowing she was going to put him down to make her see she is the problem!!
@@katiehall3031 Agreed. She is a black eye on those responsible Equestrians who raise and breed stallions responsibility. She was the kiss of death for that horse from day one.
If she wants to collect horses, she can find them for sale on the internet and then have someone build a lighted display case she can hang on the wall. Then she can play "horsey" every day, just as long as she puts them away before she goes beddy-bye.
@@tinydancer7426 Agreed! Breyers Collectibles are about all she deserves to collect.
That poor horse. Once he understood what was being asked of him, he was an absolute angel. He rely needs some positive, safe groundwork.
When the trainer said she wasn't allowed to handle him without supervision, I had to laugh. She's so full of herself and he totally put her in her place.
There are no bad horses, only bad trainers.
That lady should not be aloud to own a horse.
@@danahouston3644 sorry. There are bad horses.
@@VSFilly I disagree. There are no bad horses!
This is absolutely bonkers. That stallion was confused, threatened and angry, incredibly high tension. Then the trainer goes in and starts on like level 5 of approaching a wild horse and the stallion warns him off repeatedly. What the hell else was that horse supposed to do? He couldn't get away so the only way was through.
Also: if they really wanted to give him a chance they could have gelded him first and tried again in a few months.
What I never understood about this situation.. the horse has absolutely no ground work that it's showing it's learned... they flooded him, he should've never pushed him with the saddle blanket. So heartbreaking, this entire situation ever since the documentary aired has always been hard for me to watch, especially because of the outcome for this horse.
I totally agree, I think the situation was handled completely wrong. Although I do like Buck, I think he was trying to show the owner that the horse could be worked with and didn't have to be put down... but she was a complete idiot and they could've handled the training better.
@@RaleighLink agreed. I’m so glad he didn’t pull any punches with her and they aired everything. Despite this poor horse losing his life over this, hopefully others will see this and maybe make some change.
Yeah, I wouldn't have done anything else other than groundwork too. I didn't understand why they rode him at all.
@@RaleighLink Agreed!
came here to say this. the horse was shut down when under saddle....but all the work needs to be done getting the horse DS/CC to just co existing with humans
I know a breeder who we got my late mare from, and his stallion was the sweetest guy ever. He got him out and showed him to us. The stallion was a Tennessee Walker, TALL, HUGE horse. But he was a gentle giant. The breeder takes his mares and his stallion to Colorado in the mountains and lets them run. They come back, and he rides. They go home. That's what he told us, and because of the behavior of the stallion, I believe him.
That poor horse deserved better. She's an animal abuser and should have all her animals taken away. This breaks my heart. That poor boy was young and definitely redeemable. He just needed someone who was willing to take responsibility and the time to work with him. She needs to be held accountable. And the guy that got attacked was not listening to the horse's warnings. If he can't read and listen to horse body language, he shouldn't be working with horses. This horse was failed by everyone around him. 😭
I have minimal horse experience but worked at a large zoo for years. I wish I could have kept that beautiful horse I could've got him better, and yes she wanted to make money off of handsome boy.
And I agree no control, tons of distance, no trust created with that trainer.
Also the horse just drove him off, he wasn't even actually vicious 😢 Tragic.
This woman is a vicious, smirking, predator. She enjoyed getting men hurt and killing that horse. She was smiling. Disgusting.
Absolutely. I'm not a horse expert by any means, & haven't spent years around them like many here -- but it's SO INCREDIBLY OBVIOUS in that attack part that he was getting frustrated, he showed for minutes on end, that he was about to get fed up. They could have simply stopped & taken it back up later, give the horse some damn space for a minute.
@@user-wi9hv2pb2qShe almost seems like she's enjoying it, doesn't she? I thought I was imagining that.
It is such a shame, that horse was an absolute beautiful animal. He gave warnings, it wasn't out of the blue, it wasn't unexpected. That beautiful animal was punished because of Her failure as an owner. If I was the trainer I would have had to take that horse, there's no way I could have let it be put down over that. She may have been embarrassed but if you work around animals long enough eventually you're gonna get hurt. The horse didn't need to lose his chance at a normal life, just because she had her ego damaged.
@RandomHorseNose an absolutely stunning animal that really wasn't the "problem child" she wanted to make him out to be. There were multiple moments where I would have expected a reaction an he just chose to move away. Finally he had enough, so he hit the guy and then backed off. I understand being embarrassed but she really let her ego be the reason that gorgeous animal couldn't get the chance he needed. All he needed was some time, basic bonding exercises and someone willing to appropriately respond to his charges and aggressive behavior. Not day one or two of training n then giving up on him.
I hate how they kept treating him like a horse that should have known everything they were attempting to teach him. They treated him like an animal THAT HADN'T BEEN NEGLECTED FOR 3 YEARS, and were suddenly surprised when he reacted accordingly. They should have been approaching him like a wild stallion that had never had contact with humans. Some people really shouldn't have access to animals, they just don't deserve them
It's a shame this horse was put down. He had a very kind eye and I wish they'd given him a chance, to prove his good character.
With patience, knowledge and soft consequential lead he would've been a lovely horse. He did so well in this completely new situation, for being almost never handled.
He gave several warnings, he was completely overloaded with new influences and was just overwhelmed.
I’m crying so hard!! He’s fine you are a horrible person for putting him down! Please someone stop her!!! Please,
Exactly!!! No reason to geld. Such bullshit.
@@catgirlsfourtwenty2028
And what parts of his conformation are so exceptional that he is high quality breeding materials?
I'll help here: none.
@@catgirlsfourtwenty2028 Did you miss the entire video?🤦🏼♂️There was no reason for him NOT to be gelded
@@trishot8195 in the same sense and logic there's no reason for you to NOT be gelded either, or if you're female then spayed. Keep trying to justify non reasons instead of taking a more patient and humane approach, or best of all, not owning animals that aren't meant to be owned in the first place. Keep making yourselves look like sick disgusting twisted people. Please. Please let others know to avoid you so we can avoid producing more senseless and backwards thinking humans who are so lost they can't understand extremely simple concepts such as what I'm saying. There's a reason why it's looked down on in other parts of the world, and why people get angry about this in other countries. Because they aren't stupid. Their brains function properly. They know this is act on horses is cruel and unintelligent. Get it together.
This poor poor misunderstood horse. This is a big, huge example of the mistakes of humans and the horses that are paying the price
This woman is exactly why I had to stop re educating and training horses for anyone other than myself. People would come to me with "fix my horse" and it would soon become abundantly apparent the problem was with the human handler/owner. I quit to save my own sanity. My small string and I are all very happy nowadays. Love your work Raleigh, love your no bullshit commentary. Thank you from the southern forests region of Western Australia
Not surprised if someone came to you with a half horse half snake thing in Australia so you had to quit 💀
@@fleurdelice777 😂...you don't even know how close to the truth you are! Tiger snakes and dugites are everywhere in summer down here. We have a resident dugite that lives under our stable block...he eats the rabbits that live under there. We got tired of killing them cos as fast as you get rid of one...another shows up. So we decided to leave this one be as he knows the horses are there...he won't waste his venom on anything too big to eat so...and I pray. Anyways we call him Elmer (the dugite) cos he's always hunting wabbits 😂
And yes I'm 100% serious.
@@southernforestgypsy jesus christ
@@fleurdelice777 I know right 😂
That was why I made my rule that the owner HAD to participate in the training, or the "relationship" would slide right back into the status quo
I really like the guy in the red shirt. He keeps it short, clean and tells the whole truth without sugaring it. What he said at the end was so true. This horse could've had such a different life if the owner stepped up to the plate sooner. I feel awful for the horse.
I believe your talking about Buck, in the red shirt. He's amazing with horses! If you can, I highly reccomend watching the movie, Buck!
Can't believe the sad end of this beautiful horse because of this mad woman, if this is the one she took, I dread to think what the other ones are going through 😔
And he still had a chance. You can have a horse that acts like this, geld him and 2 weeks to a month later he's a sweetheart and super easy to handle. This lady doesn't deserve thise horses and she's torturing them be not gelding them for absolutely no reason but pride. "Look at what a tough cowboy I am" . Idiot.
“I haven’t had the chance to get him cut yet” he’s THREE years old, I feel like even anyone who has no experience with horses can smell how stupid that is. Even before she admits to having “a pasture” full of other studs. I absolutely agree that she left him intact for breeding.
He did so good saddled! Especially considering this is probably the first time he’s been ridden in years, if at all.
My heart broke, and I couldn’t help by cry, when Buck talked about how the horse doesn’t know any other way to be, and how she basically turned the horse into a predator. Watching the red flags be completely ignored by the trainer hurt even more, it’s like he was trying to rush the progress. The horse even put up with a lot before he finally struck back. That horse did nothing wrong in that situation. Him being euthanized for that incident is like punishing a victim for defending themself!
I’m going to have to watch the Buck documentary, this man clearly has so much love, respect, and understanding for these animals.
The thing is it’s months and months of work with very low reward because that horse is too far gone. It’s easy to talk on internet about how all these horses are fine and just need a bit of ground work, it’s different when you have to dedicate a lot of time and money to keep such a horse and walk the talk.
Oh do shut up..bs@relaxingnaturevideos1203
Agreed, it IS a lot of work. Almost like what you sign up for when you choose to own these animals and CHOOSE not to give them proper medical care and training. You DO have to dedicate a lot of time and money. @@relaxingnaturevideos1203
That “trainer” is just one of those cowboy method trainers who would have been even meaner to genuinely psychologically break the horse into being an abused machine to produce results for shitty breeders who breed for color.
I guarantee you that trainer is so ignorant she doesn’t even panel test her horses and pays no attention to conformation and actual genetic quality. they’re all probably “line bred” too.
A beautiful sweetheart of a horse thrown into the trash
@@relaxingnaturevideos1203I hear you. I've been there with a horse like this, only a bit more added abuse. It took a year of work before I got on him the first time. So much of that year was spent on, what looked like nothing. Just sitting near him being non threatening, eating my lunch while he ate a snack. Horses that are this far gone take SO MUCH TIME AND EFFORT. It's just not feasible for most people, and not worth it to most of the rest.
The amount for people who would have volunteered (myself included) to take this horse and try and help him is amazing.
Notice, the horse makes his point and moves away. He did NOT try to kill him. You’re right. With edited videos you can’t know what actually happened between shots.
That was so insightful, “this horse tells me a lot about you”! That’s so true!
I’ve noticed most pets with behavioral issues, there’s a human to blame! Just like bratty kids!
The horse had a tumor
Sometimes trainer 😂
Zoologist and former vet student here. That's not always true. In this case definitely, but you can't say that's the case for all animals. Pitbulls are an example of this. They are inherently dangerous, I don't care what the pit nutters say, the research and the evidence is quite clear.
I’m gobsmacked that this guy either ignored or couldn’t read the horses body language.
I could see the horse trying to tell him so many times before he bit him. It’s just pure craziness
Soo let the horse be the boss?
@jacksonmcgill3125 nah but like, they tried throwing a saddle on day 2 of what's basically a feral stallion. They should've done more groundwork and taken more time for him to be calm and comfortable with the things going on around him. Instead they just pushed him far fast his limit
@@jacksonmcgill3125 no its called not being a dumbass when handling something thats nearly 2x your size
Too much ego to respect the obvious cues from the horse. A good trainer doesn't force. They allow the horse to make the decision by training them with proper cues. This guy unnecessarily used aggressive tactics trying to force the horse to his will with little regard for his own safety. How would YOU react had YOU been that horse? Training a horse properly to be a WILLING partner takes more than a day.
@@jacksonmcgill3125no, it’s called being able to read signs. Ignoring an animals' discomfort doesn’t make you the boss
I’m not a horse expert, I’ve never owned a horse but I know a lot about other animal’s behaviour. That horse was not a dumb horse. It was honestly the opposite. It seemed smart.
He gave them SO many chances when he was upset or scared. That horse wanted to feel safe, and none of them granted him that because they wanted to look cool rather than take it easy, and build some trust. He just needed time and a bond, he could have been an excellent companion 😭 if half wild he was that tolerant, i just idk man this broke my heart
Buck said what she needed to hear and what really we all need to hear about our animals that we choose to bring into our lives. This has me in tears and I'm so heartbroken for that poor horse.
Agree. People think cowboy hat and chaps or chinks make the horse person. Give me a break
The blanket seen was awful horse handling. He wasn’t acclimating that horse to the blanket, all that horse saw was this big scary thing going after him again and again. He felt trapped.
I agree, he should not have been throwing the blanket at him with that response of the stallion. But she said 'I would have tied him to the fence'. No....Then he would feel even more trapped and would just panicked and kicked. Both are wrong imo
I thought the same.
it was a cruel attempt at brute-f0rcing a dominance that didn't exist in the first place. a textbook setup of failure.
Yep! There were SEVERAL “no thank you”s coming from that boy. And they would have been obvious even if she hadn’t pointed them out or even if you don’t know horse behavior that well. I love horses but am no expert in horse body language. And the horse stopped when he was hollered at! This horse was NOT aggressive. This horse was firm and he upheld his boundaries.
So wrong in so many ways.
After he "attacked" and injured that trainer, you can hear someone off-camera say "yeah, he's a psychopath". Just breaks my heart to hear them speak so maliciously towards this horse that was literally set up for failure BY A HUMAN. He's not a psycho, he's a WILD HORSE. I hope that his owner accepts some responsibility and acknowledges her role in his euthanasia, but I doubt she does considering her irresponsible, uneducated, large-scale studkeeping. Just absolutely heartbreaking and infuriating.
Yes i completly agree with you but i do think this was both fault. How they treated that horse in the pasture. He was lame when they walked him out after the "Dan guy" had first mounted him. And then the second session when he throws a blancet on him was so far off. The horse was scared, confused and finally had enough. A "good horse" would propably go numb of there behaviour and just surrender. But this was a stallion and he did not put up with there bullshit. This trainer do not speak to me at all. And im stunned that railegh talk so sweet of him. I dont think this is good training at all. Its old fashion and out of date. And he speaking of the horse as a rebellious unruly child, but no stop! You dont treat a horse like that. You definentily dont treat a child like that! If you beat or force mutch discipline into your child, sure you will get a child who "behaves", but you definentily havent gain that trust or earned theire respect. So in the end you havent gained anything st all.
I appreciate that said trainer didn't blame the horse.
I think that was Buck. To me, that discredits him as a trainer. He doesn't understand body language enough to train and he needs to go back to school.
@@alexking7205No, it was Dan.
They always say like there’s no such. She has bad dogs only bad dog owners same thing with horses. Well, I hope he isn’t ruined.
I briefly (for about six months) had a young gelding who acted very similarly to this horse, especially with the biting and the bucking. I am pretty confident I was lied to about his age (vet confirmed he was younger than I was told, almost too young to be ridden) and his level of training (basically none). I tried with a professional trainer for six months with that horse, but in the end, I knew I wasn’t the right person to handle him, I’m too anxious as a person and we’d feed off each other’s energy, so I gave him to someone I trusted to treat him well. I don’t understand why people don’t admit when they’re in over their head. It’s not only what’s best for you, it’s what’s best for the horse.
That horse was honestly doing fabulously under saddle. Even his attack wasn't so bad- I've seen rescue horses react worse (lashing out due to trauma). He absolutely deserved better. I really wish he'd been given a second chance with Buck or someone who had the confidence to handle him.
That woman was so ashamed, but again, took it out on the horse. The horses lose all the way around.
Have to disagree. I saw the movie, he bit his head with such force it went clear to the bone, and stitches were needed so he was taken to the ER. I agree that he was acting normally for a wild stallion and should not be thought of as an "aggressive" horse, but he did really hurt the guy, who IMO was too unqualified to handle a stallion, much less work with him on the ground. I just wish Buck would have noticed this and might have had a counseling session with the cray cray owner about how she really had a "wild" horse, not just a horse that she needed "help" with. Such a sad ending 😢
@@bluecrystal3900 There wasn't any blood I think the movie just made it seem worse then it was
nvm
@@AroAceFroggie
It wasn't a movie it was a documentary
What's completely insane is that in this day and age, and much thanks to the Mustang Heritage Association's TIP program, there are literally hundreds of very experienced wild mustang trainers across the country of whom this horse could have been sent to for training. Trainers who have seen all of these behaviors a thousand times over. You're right about the whole situation being so sad.
My family adopted two mustangs when I was in my teens. We spent every day with them, getting them used to us, halters, etc. After about a year we had a professional trainer work with them and he was able to get them green broke. They were wonderful, sweet horses, but it took a commitment from us to work with them. Some people want animals without the effort. Doesn't work that way.
First thing I would have done with that horse is geld him. Get him in a place he's by himself. Spend time around him allow him to settle the testosterone down & heal. Approach without the pressure of the blanket slapping. I think they moved on this horse to fast to hard. Those guys put way to much pressure on him. He reacted out of frustration & went into defense mode. Tragic to not geld him before making such a final decision. 😪
I like the Trainer. He just told her the truth: She ruined it. If a Foal lost it´s mother, go and bring it to another mare. It works.
Exactly!
Even if you don't have another mare they still can be taught though it will be harder on you
I'm not a fan. Even though he was right about her, he still pushed that horse, made Dan harass him until he fought back and then called him a "sociopath".
I agree, most people try to find a foster mare for an orphan foal.
This is so sad. He was essentially hitting the horse with the blanket that he was afraid of. Acts as an expert but doesn’t follow the many, many cues from the horse that he was done with it-it’s his fault he got attacked-and it was more so a warning because like you said, if he wanted him head he’d be dead, it was another warning that he needed to stop pushing his boundaries. Poor baby, I hope his soul rests easy.
I love the fact that he called her out on her bullcrap.
That's Buck Branaman for ya
I’m nowhere near a horse expert but any animal lover can see the physical, non -verbal, and verbal cues this horse is giving off and can RESPECT those boundaries. I’m so sad about this
You're so so right. Unfortunately the "cowboy" mentality is alive and well still to this day.
Wow I literally cried as I watched this. What a beautiful animal and it's so sickening to hear them call him a "psychopath" when he is literally just scared and uncomfortable. He did so well with being ridden and handled but it wasn't enough for these awful people, they felt they needed to push him further. Impatience is the cardinal sin of working with animals, I suspect Buck took this risk because he either wanted to "fix" the horse in one day like a miracle worker or he wanted to push the horse to a dramatic breaking point, either outcome was desirable for the sake of the documentary. This horse was failed by everyone there.
It's not Buck's fault at all. He was honest in just what it would take to make that horse safe to be handled and it was obvious to everyone that this woman had zero interest or ability to provide that. Undoing three years of neglect and mishandling would take a lot of work and Buck could not take on every single case like this. The blame lays entirely with the incompetent owner who apparently thought that a clinic could fix the mess that she made of that poor horse.
I agree he could have been trained slowly and have had a good life. But they killed him. It's sad when things like that happen.
@@ravanne3746 I think, on the contrary, that if Buck was unable to take on the case, he should have suggested that she send the horse to a trainer who has experience working with wild horses. I am sure he could have steered her to some capable trainers. Simply euthanizing the horse was not the answer, especially since the horse showed some good progress being ridden.
Agree! I was a little surprised even Buck bought into the “mental
midget “ opinion about this horse . Also, why didn’t Buck break up the disaster that was obviously brewing? Based on how amazing the horse was during his first ridden experience, he certainly seemed redeemable. He died for that b*+ch’s pride. This is heartbreaking and also very enraging.
Its heartbreaking.. this horse is underneath his natural wild instinct is absolutely a sweetheart. He just HATED his caretaker
Considering how little had been done with that horse, he seemed remarkably patient and forgiving and I wish they would have given him a chance. Isn't three really young anyway. They didn't even give him a chance. poor baby.
The horse doesn’t have brain damage , the “owner” has brain damage
That’s insulting to people with brain damage tbh
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@@firstcanonkill1767 Ain't that the truth.. She's just a whole other level of stupid.
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Sad situation,I’m 75 years old and have two stallions,six mares,never ever had any problems with my stallions….well mannered at all times❤from the mountains of Kentucky…..thank you!
I love that! I hope to be like you when I’m older! I’m only 16 and dreaming about the day I can get my own horse. A beautiful horse who has good ground manners gentle, kind, and healthy. ❤
Ditto. My boy lives with his "uncle", my 22yo Paso Fino Gelding, and a donkey gelding (around 15-18. Came off the meat truck, so no idea.)
The vet came to treat him for a nasty cough and went to put down "Gelding" on her notes and I went "Stallion." She actually ducked her head to check lol.
"Wow. I'd never in a million years thought it's a stallion. And he lives with these two all year round?"
Yeah, and that's WHY he's so chilled. He knows how to horse. (And my gelding is the boss lol)
@@stranger_things_slytherin_457same here..I’m not sure if I’ll ever own a horse..But I’d like to meet one and aftually be in it’s presence:D
For a stud on his first ride that’s amazing! He’s so smart and could go really far with a good owner!
I’m no “ wild horse” expert, but that first ride surprised even me! DEFINITELY trainable……he would have been a beautiful ride and companion. SO SAD….she’s an idiot! 😢
He was TIED OFF FFS
That woman was probably choosing words and phrases to make herself sound sympathetic, but she strikes me as suspicious. I feel so bad for that horse. He was mishandled at every turn and didn't get the chance he should've had.
She completely used the accident there as an excuse to put him down. This woman should be ashamed of herself and like you said Raleigh she should be fined and maybe even investigated with all of her other horses!!
Such a shame. I would have loved to see where proper training could have gotten this horse. And I'd love to see more of Buck's training on your channel!
I just got my first horse and I have been driving out every day to see him and build our bond. I listen to him (to a certain extent) and allow him to show me how he wants to be approached and handled. However, I am still boss and I have a great support team helping me learn and be great! I am also looking into training so I can learn even more. I know the basics but owning vs boarding is entirely different and I want Tyson to have the best life with me ❤
It makes me so angry that so many people have this idea in their head that they can “fix” years of learned and NATURAL behavior in one or just a few short training sessions. Even dogs, who I’d say are typically much easier to train, still take more time than this lady has put into her horse 😡
I can train my horse easier than my dog! My horse trainer is amazing and has made it so easy to understand. I had to change my thinking for the dogs!
Wow, this was hard to watch. So many mistakes made with that beautiful boy. I'm not quite sure why more ground work wasn't done to establish some trust before throwing a blanket at him in such a manner, but it all started with that woman. She needs to just not own any other living creature. Years ago, we had a young stallion that we acquired as a new herd stallion and he came to us completely sour and angry at the world. He had been promoted extensively as a two and three year old and was just flat out angry. He left a very nasty bite on my mom that could have been much more serious just a few inches over. We decided to let him decompress and just be a horse. We built him a beautiful, large (hotwired) paddock with a huge oak tree in it next to one of the turnout pastures where he could just hang out and see the other horses, run and play. He still got worked but it was light, no intense schooling. It worked wonders! He ended up going back in the ring for a successful career under saddle, was a gentleman at breeding and, when he retired, you could plop two or three kids on him and he would carry them very carefully. It's all in reading the situation and reacting appropriately.
Right?! That blanket throwing was so threatening on a horse that had not had any time to adjust and gain trust. Mistakes all around.
This was actually such a calm stallion, who had the potential to be a total love bug. The owner definitely breeds for color, and color only. She kept a horse who’s probably color bred with no actual quality lineage, no genetic disease testing, and no care at all intact just for color.
You notice the stallion gave the man multiple warnings and tried to communicate his fear. He felt he was being bullied. What’s really sad is you can see him trying to understand and reason with the man. Just before the attack he tried to vocalize his struggles because clearly his physical cues weren’t working. Only when the man went to move in, he attacked. (Which was a simple attack and he backed off immediately once his boundaries were set). I hate even calling it an attack, because really all he did was set boundaries the only way he knew how. He was standing up for himself in his mind. It’s scary for any untouched horse to be pretty much chased in a circle with a scary object. The guy was unknowingly just bullying the stallion and he had enough. He’s got basic wild horse behavior and actually is very well behaved. He tried, he wanted to try.
The fact that these people thought they could just “break” a pretty much wild stallion like that is beyond me. The stallions intent wasn’t even to harm, he just wanted to be safe. That man is honestly lucky that stallion was such a sweetheart.
I really wish someone would have saved this guy. You should have to have a permit to own stallions and breed horses. She’s the lady to produce a foal with genetic diseases and dump them at a Kill pen.
I'm shocked that Buck didn't advise them against putting the horse down, maybe suggest selling him or giving him to a real trainer. Shame. She shouldn't be allowed to own horses after that.
My Gosh that poor horse.!! U don't even want to know what I'm thinking 😢
@@dragonmom8406 I know. I question some things Buck does but that’s strange that he didn’t. This whole situation was strange. If it had been me I would have bought the stallion right off the lady. All he needed was someone to work with him slowly, not harass and panic him like they were doing
@@Yomamaluvsme I couldn't agree more. Poor thing. I also get really upset about all the pit bulls who get put down because of stupid people. They're wonderful, resilient dogs and they've shown they respond well to rehabilitation. I don't agree with killing animals who have behavioural issues as a result of mistreatment. It's so wrong.
he was scared of it too, he had already given up on the horse when he said "he's wrecked and as close to being turned into a predator as you're gonna find" @@Yomamaluvsme
NO HATE TO RALEIGH!!! when she said she's never seen a horse try to kill someone i said I HAVE!! there's this horse at my barn his name is Rubin my trainer and owner hates him my barn bestie used to lease him..... she will never even think about getting back on that horse. Rubins owner is insane for still owning him and RIDING HIM. my friend every time she got on him he was bucking and when she would try and jump him he would try so hard to hurt her only his owner can ride him because she is the only one he wont try to hurt. and no my bestie is not a bad rider or was hurting him he is just insane
There's 5 stallions at the professional barn I currently work at. Their manners are impeccable and have sweet dispositions. It's such a privilege to see and work with the owner who displays a level of understanding I've never seen elsewhere. She's patient with them, stern and sets boundaries, kind, understands the natural instincts behind each behavior. I couldn't think of a better mentor than her. My only experience working with stallions is with her, and she makes it look easy and every day. I know it's not, but it sort of punctuates that there's no excuse not to learn.
Wait.. so.. the stallion's mother died while giving birth... The barn burned down .. she broke her back? But she still manages to afford and to drive a golf cart in the pasture? I'm so confused.
AND manages to collect 18 horses over three years. How does her house and barn burn down and the foal be the only horse ok? Where does she live, and where does she bring the horse? Hi did she afford and have a place for 18 others? She’s riddled with lies
@@catetemple311 exactly!!! So confusing!!
I went to my first Buck Brannaman clinic about 1986, when he was just starting out, traveling and helping people with their horses. One young woman came to the clinic on her very dominant stallion. This horse was looking for mares, loudly neighing, prancing all around, paying no attention whatsoever to his rider.
Buck spent about 10 minutes with the horse, doing things much like he did in the documentary. Basically, he taught the horse to pay attention to his human, using the pressure and release method that be does so well.
He soon had that horse soft and gentle, behaving himself and listening.
That clinic was when I first learned about “licking and chewing,” when you know the horse “gets it,” and is thinking it over. So many times over the next 30+ years of going to Buck’s clinics, he would point out this behavior in a horse, and tell the human to “let him be for a while, and let him soak on it.”
Horses are so amazingly smart! They just need a chance. They need the human to understand how they think, and it always makes sense.
Can you please explain what preasure and release methood is?
My volume loud enough for my parents to hear:
Reliegh: HEY B**** 😗💅
What's so heartbreaking is that after the attack happened the horse went right up to his 'owner's' voice with his ears forward looking at her like he expected something from her. Maybe seeking some kind of safety or reprieve because she was the only thing in this environment that was familiar to him. But she failed him. The whole reason he was in this situation is because she failed him. And the horse is now dead because of her.
Not dead
@@EquusKeepusBrokus9791it was literally euthanized it IS dead
I purchased (I would say rescued) a stallion (not my first experience with one) from a back yard breeding facility. He acted just like the horse in the video. He was starved and kept in a stall 24/7 for 7 years of his life. I obviously gelded him and trained him. It took me 3 slow years, but he’s now such an amazing loving well trained gelding. Even my 7 year old works with him. Most people have no business with a stallion. That’s how they get ruined.
Exactly!
Geld and go very slow
So so glad to hear this! You have the exact example that I wanted to hear!
That really shows just how much work it would have taken to get that horse to the point where he would have been safe to be handled, let alone ridden. He would need a lot of one on one focus by a trainer who knows what he's doing and in the hands of an incompetent owner who thought that leaving a stud colt completely unhandled for three years would result in a horse that could be safe for his owner. I hate to think of what state the rest of her stallions are in because if she wasn't able to handle one colt, I doubt that the others are any better.
WHY GELDED?????
I'm so glad you make these educational videos. If she had 18 or 19 stallions together I guarantee there was a few fights. If there were fights and she payed attention to the movements and action of those horses she would have known to get that man out. When she acts sad about having to put that horse down it drives me crazy. They are so many people that could have given that horse a great life.I really feel bad for that horse, if she has no experience or education on horses she shouldn't own them period.
One key element you missed.... he didnt have a mom and wasnt offered a nanny mare. Meaning he missed that crucial bonding period... does cause issues in the adult horse... he needed to be raised with a mare to learn basic manners and boundaries
The way she's just passive aggressively nodding, you can tell she's not listening to a word he's saying to her and she isn't going to stop or change anything she's doing.
My mother had the absolutely gorgeous stallion. He was completely uneducated and nervous when we got him but he was such a gentle soul willing to learn and just wanted love. My mum trained him like any other horse and he was so soft to work with. He would love on my sister and I as young kids and was so sweet. Us very young kids could sit on him and be let around in the paddock. Unfortunately we lost him a few years ago when an illegal hunter came into our property in the night and left a gate open between our gelding/mares paddock and him. We lost a mare and him that day.
Years later now and my mother and I are training up my boy. One of his sons. He’s gelded, but all of his progeny are so soft and sweet to work with.
It’s 100% about how you treat and train them from the moment they’re in your lives.
That woman had 18 stallions.?? Why not geld them? After all, the vet (i hope) was going to do it, not her. If you're not going to breed them, geld them and sell them on for riding horses. What an idiot!
anyone with even slight horse knowledge knows that hand rears, especially colts, are the most tricky and risky to manage. If you can't get a mare to rear it you need a 'foster' parent of some sort to teach them horse manners followed by a lot of training. Can't believe she didn't just cut him and invest in some actual training. He's so beautiful and could've made a stunning trail ride for someone competent
Also the bit about brain damage is bollocks. I've seen and helped with foals that have hypoxic injuries at birth. You know. It's hard to get them through it. Even just a dummy foal is seriously challenging to keep alive
It's not brain damage....... but an orphan foal/horse does not relate to humans like a normal horse raised with mares do........ they are much more obnoxious to humans, almost equate humans as another horse...... they are a little harder to handle in ways
@@michellehoyt8218I was going to say something similar. He sees her as another of his species, therefore all humans are horses and because he is a stallion he is displaying stallion behaviour toward them!
Throughout the entire beginning, the stud was so so calm for one who hadnt been touched. He set boundaries, didnt go out of his way to hurt those around him, and was responsive. It's obvious he could have been rehabilitated and kept as a beautiful, kind hearted companion. I saw nothing wrong with him
There was quite a difference between the vibe when Buck was overseeing and without Buck. I think his apprentice is good. But I think his fear was getting in the way. The signs he missed were obvious, but I think he had that mental barrier not allowing him to properly read them. I can understand Buck not taking the horse. Unfortunately, I’m sure he sees a lot of those kind of cases, and it’s understandable he can’t take them all on. And ultimately, it’s not his responsibility to clean up someone else’s mess. Which may be callous but it’s true
He was trying to work with this Stallion like it was a regular horse. Most of us who know ground work saw this coming. Buck should have put the horse in the trailer and sent her on her way.
It's so shitty that people are willing to destroy an animal as beautiful as that because they can't handle the fact that they created the problem.
This made me cry. All that stallion needed was patience and kindness.
And having his balls chopped off because he does not need to be a stallion if he's this aggressive
Completely agree- patience, kindness & a new owner!!! Xxx
@@claired6328 and CASTRATION
So true! A beautiful boy who could have learned new things.
And gelding and someone who knew what they are doing
Buck is an awesome soul! I would love to follow in his shoes! That is my goal. We need more folks like him to save these beautiful creatures from their demise from people who set them up to fail. Buck I would like to meet you one day to continue my journey on who to think like a horse! Never stop learning.
A little over 20 years ago, my neighbours rescued a terribly abused and neglected 4 year old stallion and attempted to work with him, he was exhibiting very similar behaviour to this stallion, though there was a lot more fear there as well. They had him 3 weeks before deciding to euthanise him, after a similar incident that resulted in the neighbour breaking an arm. I was heartbroken when I heard what they were going to do, so, at 19 years old, I made the foolish decision to buy him from them.
The decision may have been foolish but at the same time it was the best one I ever made. Under the supervision of an EXCELLENT trainer I spent years building trust and mutual respect with him and even today I say that it was the most meaningful relationship I've ever had with another living thing.
Stone died tragically 3 years after I got him, during a break in at our stables, but I feel absolutely blessed to have had the opportunity to work with and become his trusted companion in the years we had each other.
The stallion in this video could have been that for someone else, and it breaks my heart that he never got that opportunity.
I got my first stallion in 2021, an off track standardbred. Treated him like all my other rescues, with some personal additions of course, but didn't treat him as if he was dangerous just because he was a stallion. Sweetest horse ever, never had any trouble with him. He was gelded nearly a year ago so that he could live in a herd, this helped him a lot in his recovery process
got my first stallion fall of 2021, he is 3 now, absolute saint of a boy and i love him to pieces… he is currently learning to behave around girls, but man is he such a sweetheart…
Why gelded
My husband has a niece that got an off track standardbred. She retrained him - worked him cross country riding, up and down hills to get him to use his body more naturally instead of the forced gait. She showed us pictures of her riding him at a gallop saddle-less, bridleless. She really invested in him, and he was "her" horse.:)
@svenordger Comment was so he could live in a herd. Don't want him mounting mares or fighting geldings. I remember the results of "proud cut" gelding having savaged a mare.
My trainer has a gelding and he’s REALLY sweet, however when he first was in an English saddle he did nudge my trainer away when I got off. But he’s a really good boy and he did amazing in the English saddle and the way he nudged my trainer did not change his personality. I love him. He isn’t sensitive to loud noises, and he’s gassy and spoiled and that’s why I love him so much. He truly is an amazing horse.
I used to love Buck, till I saw this movie. He is a pro... he knows horse behavior. He knew what this horse was capable of, and yet, they still had no other thought than to take her money to train the horse to ride. The last thing this horse needed was to be ridden. he needed at least 2 weeks of ground work before even thinking of riding him. I don't follow Buck any more. There are way better ways to communicate and build a partnership with than Buck's method. Gordon McKinlay, is my all time favorite. Tom Dorrance is my next favorite.
Pretty sure Bucks still out there doing the great job that he does and could give 2 shits less what you say or if you no longer follow him. He's a professional. He spent time and money just to get there, so he was well with in his right to draw some kind of compensation out of the situation as THATS WHAT HE DOES TO FEED HIS FAMILY GENIUS!
To be entirely fair, Buck saw a lot more of that horse than any of us did, to include the video creator. We only saw what was on camera.
I was a youth worker who took a bunch of kids on a trail camp. On arrival, the horses were still out. After waiting for over an hour, the 14 horses cantered back into the paddock. The owner sent me out with a bucket of food to feed them before we headed off.
The horses became frenzied and all fought each other over the food.
I was in thr middle of it and my ear was bitten off.
I never blamed the horse. I later became educated about how wrong the situation I was put in was.
Humans are the messed up ones.
That guy with the saddle blanket should not have been chucking the blanket at him like that…poor horse doesn’t understand what’s being asked of him. The way he keeps approaching the hindquarters waving the blanket like that is like waving a whip at him asking him to move away, yet he’s wanting the horse to accept the blanket being thrown at him 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Should have just folded it in half and placed it on the horse slowly with no flapping and approaching side on but not pushing the driving line
I guess he thought holding the horse was safer than tying it in case it broke it’s neck
@@SobrietyandSolace Leave it on the railing for some time let the horse go up and sniff it! Times I've done that with horses I've trained so they can smell, and see it's okay. Then slowly introduce them to it by holding it, and standing near to them, letting them come close. Not making it scary and going at their hindquarters. Poor horse.
I have gently broke all my horses!! Sit on bucket for weeks to show I’m patient!!! If they are scared I’ll sit forever, they will finally come around! Show things slowly, I can’t , of course he’s going to rush this idiot!!! I’m leaving, crying to hard..
That horse had so much potential. I have no experience in training horses whatsoever and even I can see it. He was super relaxed undersaddle for that having been his first time, and he gave that man so many signals and so many chances to get out of his space until he couldn't anymore and attacked. That horse could've been great, and I feel so bad for him having to have lived the way he did in his short years. May he rest in peace. God Bless
Studs are like that, which is why I won't ever own one. Honestly, mares aren't much better.
A gelding is the way to go for a quiet, easy ride.
"My hose has brain damage" No crazy lady, YOU have brain damage. 💀
19:30 I feel like he has no clue about reading the horses behavior at all. Even when the horse prepares to attack him, all the other people outside already knew but he still tried to do his blanket move, unbelievable
When I was 13, my mom bought me a Peruvian Paso stud from a woman who was absolutely petrified of him. The woman had just moved him to the barn we were at and he was absolutely stunning but she was so scared of him and also had severe asthma so since she couldn't handle him, she just left him in his stud stall like all the time! So one day I asked her if she minded if I took him out to the pasture and she said "If you can handle him, you can do anything you want with him!" For context, I started riding at 8 years old, had absolutely no fear and was the person everyone would ask to ride their horse first if they hadn't been worked in a while or something. So I started working with him, oh and his name was Diablo, if that gives you any clue as to his personality, lmao. To make a long story short, my mom ended up buying him because the woman realized that I was much better suited to care for him. The very first thing we did was have him gelded and within a couple of weeks, he was like a different horse. I can't believe that she just had this horse killed without even trying to tell him first!!!
Trying to "geld" him first.... Stupid autocorrect! Lol
The owner's words don't match her actions. Putting him down was cheap in terms of time and money. Every other option would have required further investment, especially time, to even get the horse ready & safe for sale. In her mind his death was preferable to her taking responsibility for his wellbeing. She shouldn't own horses because she neglected this stallion & justified abusing him because she was physically injured by this horse. Let's hope she gains enough health to responsibly let go of any other horses she may own.
I’m infinitely grateful that you made this video. Just watched this movie with my Animal Science class (they are not horse people, just me) and had a full on argument with a teacher about the fact that they could’ve gelded & trained that horse but they chose not to…glad I’m not the only one that feels that way, sometimes the absolute lack of horse sense people have makes me think I’m losing it
My daughter bought a stallion at 10 months. He reared and bit at his former home. He didn't act like that at our home. I had an arthritis flare up in my neck one day when I went out to feed. I told him he needs to be nice, I was in pain and he can't make me move fast. He did big circles around me, gettting closer and closer and then put his head next to my neck. He's now almost 3. First time my daughter saddled him, she rode. He needed some neck reining training of course. He is the sweetest guy you would ever meet. Does everything you tell him. And we never, ever had to be rough on him. Just talking to him.
You and your daughter are wonderful people who saved a wonderful horse, and I wish you all long happy lives 💙🐱💙
@LadyLeomon Aww thank you. May God bless you and your family. He's a sweetheart.
@@annmarygarcia1321 and the same to you, the largest animal I’ve shared a home with was my Nanna’s German Shepard mix after she passed, I can’t imagine the care a full-size horse would need (housing, feed, hoof-care, foal-prevention, etc) though I have nothing but admiration for those who can give one a good home.
Blessed be and thanks for making my Cake Day better with this lovely reply 💙🐱💙
Aw I’m so happy for yall! Horses r such a blessing and it’s so fun yet very expensive to have them.
We had about 50 horses growing up! This entire thing is deplorable! How could she have murdered an innocent beautiful creature!!! She should have gotten Ryan Rose!! I am crying!!!!
One thing we have to remember is we're only seeing what the editors chose for us to see. We don't know all the nitty gritty details that caused them to come to the conclusion that the horse needed to be euthanized. I will say that I don't believe the horse should have been put down, based on the footage we can see, but we don't know if the trainer DID try to buy the horse from her or stop something before it got bad, or if the other trainer was trying to show off, etc. We just don't know.
I don't own horses now, but my parents owned a paint, a beautiful palomino (both mares) and a gelding Shetland pony when I was younger. The palomino, whom we named Misty Maiden, came from an abusive owner, but we didn't realize it at the time. When the guy brought her and put her in the pasture, once the money was exchanged, Misty took the guy's hat off his head and threw it far out of the pasture (we still laugh about it now, haha). There were other signs that the guy abused her, such as biting me when I was gently petting her mane, getting upset around a certain area when we brushed her, and bucking when my dad would kick her a certain way when riding.
I have an ex sister-in-law who reminds me very much of this woman. It was upsetting at the time, knowing she had WAY too many horses than she could take care of and she did NOT know what she was doing. When working with Misty (we had to sell her because we moved into the suburbs), she would crow hop, would not listen to commands, and snapped, even though we had fully trained her (she wasn't when we bought her). It was heartbreaking to see her in such distress with the woman. I don't know whatever happened to her.
I get that people want to live the dream of owning a horse, but it's like you said, you need to know what you're doing. It's the same with any animal; if you don't know how to take care of them properly, they will become wild and they will suffer. Some people frankly shouldn't own animals, especially horses. That's the reason why I don't own horses; I may like the IDEA of having a horse, but I don't have the physical, emotional, or mental capacity to take proper care of them. Or the proper education, other than what my parents taught me.
I had a beautiful anglo arab mare who was abused before I bought her. She would bolt as soon as she saw a rope or halter due to having been dragged around with a rope on her muzzle so badly it injured her. Time, effort and kindness meant she learnt to trust me. By a couple of years she was the bossy lead mare but gentle enough my younger cousins could handle and ride her. Sadly her son, from her and my stallion, was trusted to a local trainer who used spurs on him without permission the first time the poor boy was ridden. He promptly buxked him off, which was very out of character for him. We ended up deciding not to continue riding training with him and he's a very sweet and well loved companion horse.
This right here. I’m currently obsessed with the idea of owning a horse, but I’m also not exactly prepared to live out that idea.
And? This horse deserves to find many other places of trainers period this horse deserves a chance and many of them we give useless humans to many chances but it’s ok to kill this horse that soon? Give me a break I don’t care what parts are edited or anything it’s a living breathing animal who has the right to live and if they can’t help it then a rescue can that allows it to just live as a horse period they failed this horse period.
@@RabbitAndTheLabBestFriends Did you not read my comment? I agree with you. But in my opinion, we as a society tend to judge things too quickly based on what we see online. Based on what we can see, yes, this horse was not cared for properly, but like I said, when you're working for a television crew, there are things that will not be tolerated which people agreed to in writing. I don't think it's right, especially based on what we can see happened, but it is the world we live in, unfortunately.
Also, I don't believe anyone is "useless." People can act useless, or dumb, but that doesn't make the people themselves dumb or useless. In my opinion, name calling of any kind is a form of bullying, but you can do what you want, I won't judge. Just giving my perspective on what 20 years of observation and experience has taught me.
This happens with all animals. My sister used to raise and show shin tzus. Almost exactly the same as this gorgeous stallion. The reputable breeders/show people usually know and talk to each other. A couple bought a gorgeous Australian shepherd. The breeder questioned them closely about their knowledge of the breed. They checked all the right ‘boxes’. The dog was left alone all day every day and finally chocked to death on the small rug near his bed. They were furious about the ‘defective’ dog. They were supposed to be ‘smart’. They got my sisters name and contacted her. They were shocked. She wouldn’t even let them come look at the pups. She explained very ‘professionally’ that there was no way in hell, one of her pups would co exist with them.
Where was this woman getting her horses? I’ve seen vets refuse to put down a perfectly trainable/fixable animal. Where did she find this ‘vet’?
To be fair not every horse is fixable. She probably messed this horse up so bad to where the damage isn’t reversible. She had him using the bathroom in a human baby diaper for Christ sake. Sometimes putting the horse down especially if it can cause a danger to others or himself and his herd mates is the best most humane option. This horse had one huge part of his life missing a mare to teach him and also nurture him and herd mates to follow. Putting this horse down was the right decision. It’s a hard one but the right one.
She missed her chance to have the most sensible and trustworthy stallion. If she just spent more time with him right from the moment he was born, he would’ve been such a beautiful horse
It sounds like she spent lots of time with him actually. That’s the opposite of what you want when they’re babies, they need to be around horses so they can learn manners. She bottle fed this horse from birth and kept him in her house, she let him be a spoiled brat but it wasn’t an issue until he got big enough to be dangerous.
Yep, it wasn't a lack of time. It was a lack of boundaries.
Actually, she still could have had amazing stallion. He was totally fine, if she fould any NORMAL trainer who would just train him he would be amazing. But she found a person who breaks horse souls and he didn't crush. That's the whole story.
@@skinsciencebymirashe turned him into a spoiled brat, who knew she was at his beck & call….then threw him in a pasture & neglected him for a couple years. Ofc he’s confused & traumatized
@@isitoveryet9525 it’s infuriating that she has other stallions honestly
That horse reminds me a lot of one of my dogs, Killua, a pure bred American Bully. It was my fault he turned out the way he did. I was too aggressive and with breed stigma, I was afraid to even let people near him because he was so rowdy. That turned him into what that horse was. Our first session with the dog trainer even looked similarly to their second session of blanket desensitization, Killua was biting the dog trainer but thankfully he didn’t give up. Now, Killua is amazing. He’s spent a couple nights at the dog trainer’s house when I was away for training, we can walk by people and dogs without him lunging, I can bring over new people to meet him through his crate, he’s really turned into an amazing dog and it saddens me that they gave up on that horse so quickly… Not only that, but like you said, they jumped into it too quickly with the blanket and they needed to back up and start again. Start with brushing. If not, then start with petting. You crawl, walk, then run.