Rollerblades VS Marsblade Frames
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You can just rearrange the wheels on your regular roller skates and switch one of the two smaller wheels in the front to the back to get that rocking feel too. I tried that in a roller game the last 3 weeks and it felt kinda similar to ice.
Jeremy, love your work. Thanks so much!
I started playing again in January after a lot of years away. I played mostly roller hockey as a kid though high school (grew up in Queens, NYC) and had done some public ice skating with the family over the years.
When I started back, I practiced on roller blades a few days a week and on the ice twice a week. Twice, I lost my balance on the ice so badly that I hurt myself really badly. Once I caught an edge, due to my roller blade, toe-drag habit, on a simple forward-to-backwards transition, went right over, and hit the back of my head - mild concussion. Another time I lost my balance practicing a hockey stop and busted my lip - 6 stitches. I executed it perfectly. But rolled over on that back rocker after I was at a complete stop. I didn't even feel like I was going off balance both times. Just smacked the ice.
I'm almost positive that both were due to subtle muscle memory differences required between roller blades and hockey skates. The first one, no toe-drags on ice skates. Four months now on ice only and I have that habit about gone. The second one was due to exactly what Jeremy showed in the video. Rockers on the ice skates vs. no rockers, a more anchored feel, and thusly a more forced balance with roller blades.
So now, even though I can get up to the rink only twice a week, I won't put the roller blades on. My ice skating has improved markedly and I haven't taken any serious falls. If you know you're losing balance, you can auto-correct and/or fall in a way to minimize injury. You can't do any of that if you don't even feel like you're losing balance and going over.
Jeremy... thoughts or experience with this? Anyone else?
Thanks,
Hey Jeremy I just picked up a pair of marsblades..absolutely love them thanks so much for the recommendation!
That'll really interesting, I was wondering what made them so different from the "traditional" rollerblades I use for off ice training.
My traditional rollerblade Lightning’s had oval shaped nuts in the Chassis that could be rotated to give that rocker affect. The nuts were configured out of box to be flat but could be turned so the middle wheels dropped a little and the outside wheel moved toward center a little. These were sold twenty years ago and were built into my Lightning’s, power blades and cool blades. I am looking for a new pair that have this built in and people don’t know what I am talking about when I ask if the new pairs have this. I have found mostly flat configurations. What you show about marsh blades adjusting on the fly is interesting but I would think a static configuration is less annoying. Thanks for the demo.
Hey Jeremy, I was wondering if you have ever done a review on the Sprung Chasis/Frame for inline hockey skates? I use them and they simulate an ice hockey skate feel and are really good for starts and stops in an inline environment.
Jeremy, do you think this is good for a Squirt hockey player in California? My son is on the ice a few times a week but is on his roller blades constantly. He plays roller hockey so do you think they will hold up?
composite stick on rough asphalt eekkkk!!
Because of the price of marsblade and the fact that it doesn't come with the boot, I'll stick to regular roller blades
You didn't say if you are an ice hockey player but if you are.... The inline rollerblade chassis changes the way you plant your foot as you're skating. It's different from the way you plant your foot ice skating because the blade of the ice hockey skate is rockered and the inline chassis, even with wheel modifications is not. Inline skating may screw up your ice skating stride mechanics as it did for me. I get hours a week in free ''icetime'' thanks to Marsblades and as an ice hockey player, they are worth every penny. Can't say enough good things about them. GO PENS .... GO CONOR SHEARY
I am late to the convo but I play ice hockey now. My roller blades from the old days had the ability to be rockered, basically the inserts the bearings go into in the two middle slots allow those two middle wheels to stick out more and make it so the front and back wheels don't touch the surface.
Putting the extra smaller 72 mm wheel they give you in the front, has a similar effect to your old chassis. And then there's the rocker built in to the 2 piece Marsblade chassis.
They do not screw up how you plant your foot. To me there was a significant difference from inline to ice, and I never would have thought so. They also turn and cut like ice skates as well.
If you're thinking of investing in off ice training aids. I would start with Marsblades. I've got hundreds of hours on mine. For me, the chassis cost alone per hour is well under a dollar per hour. 50 cents maybe. And I can skate whenever I'm up for it. Which is priceless.
Andrew Sala i
Andrew just get an rockerd setup, smaller wheels in the front and back its a lot cheaper (becouse you are only changing your wheels) an rockerd setup feels a lot more like ice skates then the Marsblade
Can we continue doing videos of roller hockey please
Yes, more off ice hockey is good for the game overall!
What would you recommend for goalies?
You can get the same effect by using 76mm in back 80mm on the third wheel 76mm on the second wheel and 76mm on the front wheel. This mimics the feel of an ice skate .
Hey Jeremy love all your videos quick question. Do the bottom of your boots have to be that hard fiberglass composite bottom like the high end skates have or can they be the other hard plastic kind that the lower end skates have?? Does it matter or make a difference, I got turned down by a pro shop because they said i HAD to have the hard boot bottoms
Jeremy how do you feel on 3 wheel configuration skates
I am using my ccm tacks rh750 since 1999 haha I might need to upgrade
So your foot hasn’t grown since 1999-😭
He prob is older
Hey Jeremy! Could you do a review of the Verbero Vortex inline skate and/or boot? I'm interested in Verbero, but can't find any reviews of the Vortex. Thanks!
Great video Jeremy keep the good work going
Can you do a review on the Glory Voltage LE stick please
Jeremy, I've heard they're quite heavy. I play more inline hockey than I do ice, mainly because the cost of ice leagues is quite steep, would it be practical to put them on my inline boot?
Hello, could we install inline frame to hockey skates boot without any trouble? Then install blade frame back for ice skate and repeat depending our course
For the boot on the Marsblade, did you use the Verbero Vortex? and if so, how did you manage to get a hold of a white one
Can you say if the Marsblade would last if using it to play Inline hockey? I mean if the chassi is strong enough. Is it made of steel/aluminium?
I started playing hockey on ice and then a buddy wanted me to join his roller hockey team and I felt uncomfortable on roller skates compared to being on the ice. Could you used these blades for actual roller games? I'd rather have the ice skating feel than regular roller skates
You CAN get the hi-lo system for the boot and less expensive wheels. I am not saying they are bad it is just like hi-lo and can be mimicked easyily
I've never heard of Marsblades, but I used to use Tuuk Rockers to mimic a hockey blade radius. Have you ever used those, Jeremy?
For the mission inline skates how do you know the width of the boot because I cannot find it?
Do you think if you use different sized wheels and rocker the wheel setup on roller blades that you'll get the same effect.?
Hey Jeremy... Can you explain the difference between Marsblade, and making a custom rocker? If you get 4 traditional sized wheels and 4 smaller wheels, put the smaller wheels on the front and back parts of the roller blade, and the traditional sizes in the middle two. What would be the difference? I feel like I can turn tighter with the custom rocker and it feels a lot more smooth than regular roller blades
this is why roller blades have different size wheels in different spots so it gives the same rocking affect for wayyyy less money.
I am considering these, but what is the stride comparison ?
What if I use inline freeskates to play casual street hockey? I do not expect best performence, but I want to know if I can still play without damaging then.
Does roller blades feel close to if u were skating on ice with hockey skates?
What size of Marsblade did you get compared to your boot size? I wear size 8 skates so that seems to be right in between.
i have inline skates and I'm downhill ice cross athlete, wouldn't mind having Marsblades but the point in our inline skating training is to stay accustomed to jumps and rollers... For technique I head in the rink. And the factor is that the kit costs 220€, that is a bit steep no matter how you look at it.
I don’t play ice hockey... but I have blades that hurt my ankles and come loose when I’m on the deck... also the ankle support on them are awful... will marsblades help my situation?
Jeremy for all us guys out here who can't afford Mars blades right now, please tell us the best wheel setup for a good rocker closest to an ice skate. Thanks.
Looking to convert my mission proto V roller hockey skates to ice skates. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Want to get back in the ice.
It seems like in every video I see people say that the Marsblade is a good inline training tool for people who predominantly play ice hockey. Would anyone say that they are a good all around option for people who primarily play roller hockey? Or are traditional skates better for that?
Can you use roller hockey wheels in a indoor skating rink?
Jeremy Can you make a review of Glory Hockey?
I am a goalie so the flat footed is more realistic
Yes that makes sense I’m a goalie too
So am i
I do both so I just got these and I use my traditionals for the actual season
I play inline hockey, and trying to slide sucks,and sometimes the wheels will get stuck in the bottom part of the pad
The mission boot is nicer than the verbero boot in my opinion. Love the videos tho
Why do you never mention those Verbero gloves?????
Will have to look into these, thanks for the heads up on another great product.
Soo for beginner roller hockey players it sounds like you would recommend the traditional since I live in an area with not much ice to play on to get used to the mars.
When I started roller blading, it was in the early 90's. The Rollerblade brand of rollerblades actually allow you to adjust the frame. It comes by default in a flat frame with all of the axles aligned so that all of the wheels are touching the ground. The Rollerblade rollerblades also have an alternate configuration. You can lower the two middle wheels and move the end wheels inward to make a shorter rockered frame.
I had a very hard time turning with the flat frame. Feels like there is a lot of resistance to my trying to turn the skate. The fact that all 4 wheels are touching the ground, especially the end ones, create a lot of resistance to my being able to turn the skates while it is on the ground. I have to lift up my foot and put it back down at a different angle to turn.
When I switched to the rockered frame, I found it way easier to turn. Having only 2 or 3 wheels touch the ground at any time causes there to be a lot less resistance to my turning the skate when it is on the ground. I play a lot of roller hockey, so turning is just really important. I've always used a rockered frame.
In the 90's, I did see a number of different brands of inline skates have a rockered frame configuration. After 2000, I cannot find them anymore. I have relied on finding the old Rollerblade brand inline skates at thrift stores after 2000. I managed to find 2 more pairs that fit me.
More recently, I finally was able to find rollerblades with a rockered frame. The brand is Seba. It has been the only model that has a rockered frame configuration. It's all one piece including boot, so you don't have to get a separate boot and attach the frame on like the one in this video.
Hi Jeremy , great vids .. I have a quick question about Roller helping with ice hockey .. I wanted to get some more stick time for myself and my son, so we got some roller hockey skates with the hope that it would improve our game .. It felt a bit strange going from roller to ice .. but I guess I would get used to it , The thing is a few people at hockey said that roller/inline will not benefit my skating or hockey and is likely to make me a worse skater on the ice .... Any thoughts or info on this would be great ...
again great vids , have really helped ... :)
In-line skating will definitely improve your on ice skating but you have to be aware that the first 10-20 minutes back on the ice will a little disconcerting because of the rocker difference between ice skates and most in line skates. I've always found that a few laps of just c-cuts will help to rewire the brain to go from in line to ice hockey.
Hey coach I was told that roller blading will stunt your ice skating is this true? I don’t want my son to rollerblade if it won’t help his ice skating
Bauer did something similar about 15 years ago with their top of the line Vapor Skate, so nothing really super innovative....it also didn't really came out on top as well.
I unfortunately can't remember the exact model, but I do own them and still wear them ^^ (they got golden holder)
Greetings from Germany
Chris
PS.: You're videos are awesome! ;)
for the marsblade (in all your videos) Do you use the standard same size wheel setup or the advanced smaller front wheel setup?
smaller front wheel
Where do you get those
Jeremy, how many sticks do you have?????
Hey coach Jeremy, I am a defense going into Bantam, are there any tips you have for me?
Keep your head up and don't be afraid to lay the body
Ya play confident and belive in ur self
Hey I’m going into bantams this year, but I switch in between forwards and defense
@TheClamp God
keep good gap, play physical, and create offensive opportunities
You forgot to mention some roller hockey players use 3 to4 different size wheels for an aggressive stance which doesnt have the same anchor affect that you experienced.
marsblade require special wheels ?
What are those easton ice skates?
So I am a roller player looking to move to ice. Would you recommend getting the mars blade before I start ice?
Keep up the good work
Even with the rockering, isn't training on rollerblades going to encourage bad habits because so many ice hockey maneuvers, (hard hockey stops, lateral starts and stops, forwards and backwards snowplow stops, 1 legged forward to backward and vice versa transitions, etc.), require you to dig your blades into the ice and basically scrape away at the ice to provide gradual friction- something you can't do on rollerblades without tipping over and falling down?
For example, if one has to make a sudden stop after sprinting to the front of the net, on ice one would do a hard hockey stop (lower their weight, turn their planted foot 90 degrees while sinking all of their weight onto that foot's heel, and then turn their hips and shoulders immediately after) and be able to stop very quickly. Try that on roller blades and you'll fall right on your arm- you're either going to have to do a T stop (takes longer to do and strains the groin) or a modified hockey stop by "C cutting" your plant foot way wide (with your lower leg about 45 degrees to the ground) before sinking your weight down onto that foot's heel (takes much more time and space and can strain the knees a bit).
Is there any way around this as far as wheel types, etc?
@@jkorkea yep... I'm with You. No matter how hard you try. you will never solve the main problem: the surface to skate.
What is that green puck you're using?
Eric Proctor it's called a green biscuit
hey guys question just recently bought some bauer x300R skates, just to get some off ice training. would this boot support the marsblade if i wanted to put those on later down the road thanks.
Wesley Loomis yeah they will I have them one my x400s and they are so great I absolutely love them
I usually ice skate and are quite decent at it but i went rollerblading the other day and on rollerblades I felt a lot more stable and I didn't like that since I'm used to ice
Great video!
The Mars blade is very interesting to me As a former figure skater. Has anybody tried this setup for figure skating?
What are some good relatively cheap rollerblades
Why does it have to be so expensive Jeremy!!!! ;( I know it will help and stuff but still $200 how do people that aren't the bet spend that much money and it doesn't come with a boot. Can't wait for more summer videos! Love the unbiased review
just get an rockerd setup, smaller wheels in the front and back its a lot cheaper (becouse you are only changing your wheels) an rockerd setup feels a lot more like ice skates then the Marsblade
Isn't weird that he put the holder on a Verbero boot and the boot Marsblade uses is Verbero
which one is cheper
Jeremy Can you put the marsblade on a roller hockey boot? Or is it strictly for an ice boot?
I'm pretty sure you can, I don't see why not
+The Hockey Movement by How To Hockey I always hear people putting them on ice boots and never a roller hockey boot so I was curious. Thanks for replying
I put them on a pair of Alkali's. There's a couple new wholes, but nothing major. Got hundreds of miles on the Marsblades. Buy them, they're worth every penny. All the practice time you can handle and Marsblades don't screw up your ice hockey stride.
+The Hockey Movement by How To Hockey What setting on the rocker is most like ice? Thanks! :)
Hockeyman5509 It doesn't work like that. There is no setting ''like ice'' on the rocker. You loosen the rocker to increase the workout so when you get to the ice, your stabilizer muscles are stronger, making it easier on the ice to skate. You may already be a strong enough skater to open it completely. If not, tighten it up until you get use to it. Then loosen it as you get stronger.
"It only works if you actually use it" - So simple yet such so true.
Still have Bauer's with the rocker chassis. Same thing. They came out with it like 10+ years ago. One boot is pretty mushy now but the chassis are still in great shape.
if those wheels are under 78a durometer i wouldn't use those on anything harder than smooth inline rink concrete
Do you know any ways of making a shooting pad smother? I just got one and I don't know if i need to break it in or if I need to do something.
I think you're supposed to clean it and work it in
Happy trex thanks :)
D'un pied a l'autre on as pas la meme sensations : / test invalide
I have the same pair of mission blades, and halfway through my games the bottom of my feet get rather sore. Is that something that happens with all blades or should I look at getting a new pair?
I wouldn't worry to much about it maybe just get a new insole
I got a pair of Bauer ice hockey skates and had total hockey put my roller chassis on them.... best thing I've ever done for my game, I will never go back to a roller hockey skate again. definitely the way to go. and don't waste 200 dollars, just do a full rocker.
I totally did that when I was a kid c. 1980 in NYC. I couldn't find a decent pair of roller skates (the old-school box configuration) anywhere. Chassis and wheels were really good. Boots were total crap. I bought a pair of Bauer ice hockey skates for like $69 (a lot of money back then), drilled the blades off, and had a local shoemaker put a heels and the roller skate chassis on them. Awesome!
These are sweet!
Do they make marsblades for kids
Can someone recommend me a pair of inline skates similar to hockey skates because I want to keep skating of ice
Ya-yey marsblades
How can this be better than rockering regular inline hockey skates? Rockering means you can have only one wheel in contact meaning you have greater manoeuvrability but Mars blade while feeling like an ice skate you have four wheels on the ground . In that regard I can’t see how the Marsblade is better or more like an ice skate except in the motion.
For experienced ice hockey players it doesn't matter what kind of roller blades you use as roller hockey is mainly for stickhandling and shooting practice.
could you put the. on old roller boots
If the boots are good, Yes. I got my Marsblades on a pair of Alkalis.
this was a really informational video on the mars blade roller skates you explained the skates in detail and explained them really well and gave all the right information on these roller blades.
Standard skates like missions have a high lo set up which means they have larger wheels in the front and slightly smaller in the back. So they come rockered automatically.
That's totally wrong. The large wheels are in the back, the small are in the front, and there is no rocker, the wheels all contact the ground/rink surface at the same time. They are not rockered like some older in-line skates were. The only way to rocker hi-lo's is with four different wheel sizes on one chassis.
That's what I meant, don't need to get pissed off.
Why a green brisket
I know this video is old, but Marsblades now offers a full skate, so you don't have to have the chasis mounted on an existing pair of boots.
how much did the mars blades cost
About $200
What's that song called?
Back Up! - Dominik Omega
simple, spend 200 or so on the frame and how ever much it costs for shipping, then start drilling holes into your skates
i am an inlinehockey player... can i train and play with it??
Apparently these are tough enough for full time inline players. Which is normally the issue with chassises. They can replicate the ice feel but in a game the wreck your wheels or break. Making them completely impractical.
I still don't see the point personally... just do a full rocker and save yourself 160+ dollars (depending on the price of your 4 new smaller wheels)
heroangel20 I think these mimic the weight transfer and edge weight of ice skates better, beyond just turning radius. I actually like how inline skates play compared to ice skates for inline, the game should just play to its strengths and give up being a training sport for ice hockey.
I wanted to get some but I have no money
If you couldnt afford these could you just put a smaller wheel in the front/ back?
easily go 76 - 80 - 80 - 76 rockered setup, I know people that skate on that for fun.
Can't get on with it myself, it feels wrong on street skates but right on my ice skates. Weird!
IKR
yes its called an rockerd setup where the front and back wheels are smaller then the middle ones. i run rockerd on my skates i have tryed the Marsblade but an rockerd setup is just a lot better
what stick are you using?
glory hockey limited edition
Thanks
I don't use 4 wheels ( never did.. I only use 2, front and back, people give me weird looks but I itnoir it because it's about personal preference right..!
don't you blow out wheels like all the time with just 2 on there? how do you stop?
The Mars blade looks good.
what is t he name of that epic rap song?
dominik omega - back up
Skriptid i love you so hard, i got an erection. #noHomo
Inline skating
I strongly recommend a 3-wheel setup with 84mm wheels.
What's the song before you get copyrighted for it.
dominik omega - back up
Really cool!!!
Why would I buy a $200 set up that's way too much