Totally agree! The Twilight Zone in the Rod Serling era, was amazing. He wrote many of the episodes, but also has great writers as Charles Beaumont or Richard Matheson, and great directors as Richard L. Bare, James Sheldon, Douglas Heyes and John Brahm. One can learn a lot watching the reruns of that magnificent TV show, while one enjoys amazing episodes.
Curious question: how does financial support come through youtube views if you are not monetized yet? Or did you set up your channel to be monetized before this solid push into production? Been thinking about that a lot myself...
Patreon. And if you are large enough youtube membership to your channel. And of course brand deals. For a master of storytelling brand deals can be good content.
It doesn't. Sure, there are ways of making money that don't literally have a subscriber and watchtime limit, but no one's going to sponsor you if no one's watching. And if you only have a few hundred viewers, it'll be hard to get more than a couple Patrons. The good part is that it's actually generally not hard to get views and subscribers if you actually make a high quality, professional short film because even if you don't have a great thumbnail, it's easy to promote something professional. People want to see that. People want to share that.
You need 100k views a day to make livable money on RUclips. RUclips ad dollars is a terrible way to make money with short films. You should focus on building your audience rather than making money on RUclips.
I love this lady's short films and their channel. I myself am a hardcore horror fan, and for 3 years I have sacrificed so much to build up equipment for filming. So I'm preparing scripts to the stories I have been creating and will hopefully be finding actors soon. It really takes time and patience when you're a one man band. At times I wonder if it's even worth it, but your short films really rebuilds my encouragement and drive. Thank you.
Hey film courage, great content as usual. Actually we shoot acting reels for local actors. My mom and I are filmmakers but we shoot the acting reels like miniature shorts for the actors. We put one up on Facebook and within 4 days it got 975,000 views out of no where. The algorithm caught it months later and we got $300 off in stream ads for it. RUclips, not so much. Lol We shoot everything usually in a day. Edit it with in a few snd post up every Wednesday. Been doing it consistently for almost 2 years now
Got a good amount of short scripts. I love writing them. It's like capturing the essence of a 2 hour feature and squeezing it into a 10 minute short. A wonderful challenge every single time. Now all I need is to see at least one produced. What a day that would be!
This is obviously a great idea. RUclips is highly under tapped. As a writer though I wouldn’t have the foggiest notion how I would get my stuff in front of serious minded indie artists.
My biggest satisfaction with a short wasn't a famous festival or made a lot of money or won an oscar. it was the fact that famous filmmaker Phil Solomon showed it to his students. I did die many times over when i found out.
@@ripcord93 Thank you for your interest! Its an experimental/avant-garde film. Please watch it in total darkness and with headphones, volume a bit higher than usual if you can. vimeo.com/141230466
Love this mindset and mentality - I've been viewing my "youtube channel" as a LiveFreeTV station for a while... "If I were NBC what would I broadcast...?"
I’m happy I found this. I’m new to making short films and I must say that I’m so encouraged by this message. I have written a lot of shorts around family and real life situations. Just started rolling them out and posting on RUclips (only). Thanks so much for such encouragement. Watching from South African
Advice, please. I made a short film a few years back which won the 13-yr-old star awards, such as the Starburst International Film Festival Best Actor Award (not bad considering she was up against adults). I didn't make the film Public on RUclips until recently. In the few months it has been Public, only a handful of views have been clocked up (the bulk of views came from the actors sharing the Unlisted link a long time ago). I'd now like it to get more hits. Are there any channels or whatever on RUclips that I need to register the film with so that people know it exists? Do I need to monetise it to get more hits? I have written a feature version of the script and would like the short to maybe garner a bit of industry interest.
not going to lie; there have been a fair few videos on this channel that i've clicked away from mid-flow because i've found a large amount of various interviewee's opinions-stated-as-fact to be just a touch too dismissive, bordering on outright pejorative & condescending. with that said, hats off to film courage for publishing a video that (genuinely) is titled with PRECISELY the term i've recently been putting into google. couldn't have come at a better time and i'm very grateful for victoria fratz's input here.
Please keep covering short films/just films and media made for online platforms. You could interview someone from Wong Fu Productions, Jinnyboy TV or DanKhoo Productions
Here's everything we have published on this channel so far - bit.ly/3vMor70 Also you can check out her work on the Social House Films channel - ruclips.net/user/SocialHouseFilms
Actually did a short that was literally a lens test the turned into a festival film.. But I'm pulling it from the festival trail because it off the cost of fees..I literally can buy new gear and pay for RUclips promos instead of padding the pockets of festival directors. It's hard to get people to festivals now. My other films went to fests and won, and nothing came out of it.. Only got one inquiry which turned out to be a scam from a festival.. short films on RUclips seem to be getting way more viewership and traction than fests.. I always say do short films without expecting anything That way there's less pressure when you shoot it.. You get a better product
This sounds fantastic and I really love that Hollywood is being removed as a gatekeeper. But, how, exactly, are the films being monetized? I assume the number of views brings advertising income, but how else is income being made?
Film Courage, infinite thanks! Fantastic interview and content; just subscribed! Big fan of Victoria and Aaron's awesome work, and now a big fan of yours as well. Very inspirational. Blessings.
Thanks! Great to see you discover our work here. Victoria and Aaron are both incredibly talented. So far we have two clips published with Victoria. And we have also interviewed Aaron, here are some clips - bit.ly/3on1t2A
Not having a crew to work with my video will take a few months to complete. Fortunate you are to have others who work with you. But that won't stop me. I will complete this video and open a lot of eyes. You'll see!!!
Just saw this video and felt that its need to be shared a lot. Being a writer of psychological horror, thriller horror and supernatural horror lol basically all type of it is kind of good point as I am sticking to 1 genre to explore more. I love this so much.
so if she's making $$ on RUclips with shorts, how can you get the 1000 subscribers to even get able to be monetized? she's not given any details or steps, just a emotional testimony of that she made it.
Very Inspiring! I wish I knew how the RUclips algorithm worked. My short films usually do a few hundred views, but one I released in October just blew up to 130K views and took my subscriber count from under 100 to over 1,500. Now I'm thinking I need to turn it into some kind of web series to capitalize on that.
Here is a tip for you. If you can start doing videos like "part 1" and "part2" So you get double views since people will watch that next video if it's connected to the previous one.
We have uploaded 2 short films in youtube... Monetization seems so difficult.. I agree that It's much more like practicing for a feature. Guys It would inspires us a lot if you check our shorts and if you could give us some feedback and suggestions ❤️ (from India).
working on a very specific short , professional promo team will promote it world wide due to its synnergy with another medium.. professional indie director /cinematographer will do it access to top equipment and studios. and due to everyone involved are doing it out of love, they volunteer despite their full schedules in the film industry what should cost 200000 usd will cost just 25...28000 usd. how can I find sponsors .national film funds won't work we are scattered. I don't know where to start
All I want to know is "How smart or how stupid is my audience?". I grew up with stuff like Batman the Animated Series and Gargoyles, I went to college watching Avatar the last Airbender and Full Metal Alchemist. I loved worlds I can learn, mature themes, but the (Lets face it) immature catharsis of fighting the way out of every problem. I know a teenage audience would eat up reading or watching this stuff. Harry Potter, Naruto, and My Hero Academia succeed by literally making schools out of learning their worlds and the act of learning their narrative. But I don't want to make a school story. I have an adventure in mind in world I made..........but I am stuck between making it too simple and making it too complicated. Yes, engaging characters first........but I AS THE WRITER am already engaged. I have to pay other people to ghost write based on the nonsense I have been obsessing over. I get mixed answers where I need to simplify the story so that the most power character is the solution to all problems (Yeah, tell that to f*cking frodo) or I get so lost in my love for my own work that only my therapist can read the yarn I have been writing and rewriting hoping to get a reader. I want to make a story ages 12-22 would love. How much information can they take and how do I keep them engaged?
"Smart or stupid" is the wrong approach. Think back to your own childhood, watching the shows you mentioned. Couldn't you tell when entertainment was pandering to your age group? Didn't you instinctively reject content that obviously pulled its punches to protect your young mind, or tried to emulate popular trends? There's a difference between "kidz tv" and "suitable for all-ages." Just write what you want. Be true to your vision and lean into the elements you love the most. Then step back and ask yourself, "Would I sit down and watch this with my kids/nieces/nephews/friend's children? Are there actions or themes that I would feel uncomfortable watching in their presence?" If the answer is no, then don't worry about the emotional or psychological complexity. Well-written stories find their own audience. Care more about the craft than the intended age group, because that care, that love, that vibrancy of vision, that artistic precision - *that's* what you innately responded to all those years ago, watching the shows of your youth.
The old "Twilight Zone" & "Tales from the Darkside," are nothing but short films. It worked then, it'll work now.
true thats why im planning to shoot horror anthology film franchise
Totally agree! The Twilight Zone in the Rod Serling era, was amazing. He wrote many of the episodes, but also has great writers as Charles Beaumont or Richard Matheson, and great directors as Richard L. Bare, James Sheldon, Douglas Heyes and John Brahm. One can learn a lot watching the reruns of that magnificent TV show, while one enjoys amazing episodes.
so many words... so many hand gestures.... so little information...
Curious question: how does financial support come through youtube views if you are not monetized yet? Or did you set up your channel to be monetized before this solid push into production? Been thinking about that a lot myself...
brand sponsorship is an option. Think production placement, partnerships, etc.
Patreon.
And if you are large enough youtube membership to your channel.
And of course brand deals.
For a master of storytelling brand deals can be good content.
It doesn't. Sure, there are ways of making money that don't literally have a subscriber and watchtime limit, but no one's going to sponsor you if no one's watching. And if you only have a few hundred viewers, it'll be hard to get more than a couple Patrons. The good part is that it's actually generally not hard to get views and subscribers if you actually make a high quality, professional short film because even if you don't have a great thumbnail, it's easy to promote something professional. People want to see that. People want to share that.
You need 100k views a day to make livable money on RUclips. RUclips ad dollars is a terrible way to make money with short films. You should focus on building your audience rather than making money on RUclips.
I love this lady's short films and their channel. I myself am a hardcore horror fan, and for 3 years I have sacrificed so much to build up equipment for filming. So I'm preparing scripts to the stories I have been creating and will hopefully be finding actors soon. It really takes time and patience when you're a one man band. At times I wonder if it's even worth it, but your short films really rebuilds my encouragement and drive. Thank you.
Keep grinding! You’ll get there!
whats her channel?
nvm
Thank you for this comment I needed to see this
What is the biggest success you have had with a short film?
Hey film courage, great content as usual. Actually we shoot acting reels for local actors. My mom and I are filmmakers but we shoot the acting reels like miniature shorts for the actors. We put one up on Facebook and within 4 days it got 975,000 views out of no where. The algorithm caught it months later and we got $300 off in stream ads for it. RUclips, not so much. Lol
We shoot everything usually in a day. Edit it with in a few snd post up every Wednesday. Been doing it consistently for almost 2 years now
Got a good amount of short scripts. I love writing them. It's like capturing the essence of a 2 hour feature and squeezing it into a 10 minute short. A wonderful challenge every single time. Now all I need is to see at least one produced. What a day that would be!
So far I have written 6 short films. I am constantly brewing up more concepts faster than I can write the first drafts.
Have they been turned into actual films? If so would you mind linking some so we can check them out for inspiration?
@@Brandon.manga. No, they are just screenplays so far.
@@joaquinhernandez6940 what genre?
@@offrailproductions The feature is a drama
Hey! I’m a new director. If you’re interested in sharing the screenplays we could do a collab.
This is obviously a great idea. RUclips is highly under tapped. As a writer though I wouldn’t have the foggiest notion how I would get my stuff in front of serious minded indie artists.
This might be the route for me at least for now
My biggest satisfaction with a short wasn't a famous festival or made a lot of money or won an oscar. it was the fact that famous filmmaker Phil Solomon showed it to his students. I did die many times over when i found out.
what film is it? can we see it anywhere?
@@ripcord93 Thank you for your interest! Its an experimental/avant-garde film. Please watch it in total darkness and with headphones, volume a bit higher than usual if you can. vimeo.com/141230466
Short films are all I write. Thanks for the video. Needed to hear this.❤👏😎
Where can I read your scripts ?
@@MassiveBoyVentures do you have Instagram? All of my projects are on there
Joel Haver has become my favorite RUclipsr this year. His short films and comedy skits are just that good.
You didn't answer the question how to make money from short films
Thank you this was educational. I just posted my short film on vimeo earlier this month.
Love this mindset and mentality - I've been viewing my "youtube channel" as a LiveFreeTV station for a while... "If I were NBC what would I broadcast...?"
I’m happy I found this. I’m new to making short films and I must say that I’m so encouraged by this message. I have written a lot of shorts around family and real life situations. Just started rolling them out and posting on RUclips (only). Thanks so much for such encouragement. Watching from South African
Thanks for the video. Wonderful to hear about indie filmmakers pushing digital media to create and connect with the audience.
I'm a bit of loss how this video answers the question of whether you can actually make money via shorts. Does it?
Who was?
Yes! I've used the money made from my shorts to basically finance festival runs and/or the next short film.
Advice, please.
I made a short film a few years back which won the 13-yr-old star awards, such as the Starburst International Film Festival Best Actor Award (not bad considering she was up against adults). I didn't make the film Public on RUclips until recently. In the few months it has been Public, only a handful of views have been clocked up (the bulk of views came from the actors sharing the Unlisted link a long time ago).
I'd now like it to get more hits. Are there any channels or whatever on RUclips that I need to register the film with so that people know it exists? Do I need to monetise it to get more hits?
I have written a feature version of the script and would like the short to maybe garner a bit of industry interest.
If it wasn't for shorts I would be in a constant chafing condition. Why did I wear jeans all those years.
not going to lie; there have been a fair few videos on this channel that i've clicked away from mid-flow because i've found a large amount of various interviewee's opinions-stated-as-fact to be just a touch too dismissive, bordering on outright pejorative & condescending. with that said, hats off to film courage for publishing a video that (genuinely) is titled with PRECISELY the term i've recently been putting into google. couldn't have come at a better time and i'm very grateful for victoria fratz's input here.
Love Social House Films and find them so inspiring. ❤️
Thank you!! :D
@@ImVictoriaFratz Agreed; one of my favorite channels! You are Aaron are bona fide gamechangers! Awesome interview! 👍🏾
Please keep covering short films/just films and media made for online platforms. You could interview someone from Wong Fu Productions, Jinnyboy TV or DanKhoo Productions
My biggest success is 11 views
This is the way
Quite inspiring. Love to here more from her.
Here's everything we have published on this channel so far - bit.ly/3vMor70 Also you can check out her work on the Social House Films channel - ruclips.net/user/SocialHouseFilms
Any kind of work you do consistently, it will always yield some kind of result, no matter what.
Bahahahahaha
Actually did a short that was literally a lens test the turned into a festival film.. But I'm pulling it from the festival trail because it off the cost of fees..I literally can buy new gear and pay for RUclips promos instead of padding the pockets of festival directors. It's hard to get people to festivals now. My other films went to fests and won, and nothing came out of it.. Only got one inquiry which turned out to be a scam from a festival.. short films on RUclips seem to be getting way more viewership and traction than fests.. I always say do short films without expecting anything That way there's less pressure when you shoot it.. You get a better product
I started making shorts on my channel last summer since I was home with nothing to do. It's just me though so they aren't where I want them to be.
Great to see you creating and building your channel Monica!
@@filmcourage Thank you! I'm trying my best.
If i make short film with my local language and make it subtitle can i make money with short film👑 if yes where.
Thanks for important lessons
This sounds fantastic and I really love that Hollywood is being removed as a gatekeeper. But, how, exactly, are the films being monetized? I assume the number of views brings advertising income, but how else is income being made?
Film Courage, infinite thanks! Fantastic interview and content; just subscribed! Big fan of Victoria and Aaron's awesome work, and now a big fan of yours as well. Very inspirational. Blessings.
Thanks! Great to see you discover our work here. Victoria and Aaron are both incredibly talented. So far we have two clips published with Victoria. And we have also interviewed Aaron, here are some clips - bit.ly/3on1t2A
@@filmcourage Very Welcome! Oh cool, thanks again. :)
Not having a crew to work with my video will take a few months to complete. Fortunate you are to have others who work with you. But that won't stop me. I will complete this video and open a lot of eyes. You'll see!!!
How much did you make for every movie?Did you get your money back?
Just saw this video and felt that its need to be shared a lot. Being a writer of psychological horror, thriller horror and supernatural horror lol basically all type of it is kind of good point as I am sticking to 1 genre to explore more. I love this so much.
I like twilight and tales from the dark side pure classic
so if she's making $$ on RUclips with shorts, how can you get the 1000 subscribers to even get able to be monetized? she's not given any details or steps, just a emotional testimony of that she made it.
by making videos and get monized
How do you have more views on your RUclips short films
I produced my new Short film. No one help me
Very Inspiring! I wish I knew how the RUclips algorithm worked. My short films usually do a few hundred views, but one I released in October just blew up to 130K views and took my subscriber count from under 100 to over 1,500. Now I'm thinking I need to turn it into some kind of web series to capitalize on that.
Congrats Bisong! That is awesome and exciting!
Could simply be because of the thumbnail you used, it looks cinematic and mysterious.
I enjoyed your short
Here is a tip for you. If you can start doing videos like "part 1" and "part2" So you get double views since people will watch that next video if it's connected to the previous one.
@@CastlesForEyes That could very well be the case!
@@filmcourage Thanks! Just gotta keep creating!
We have uploaded 2 short films in youtube... Monetization seems so difficult.. I agree that It's much more like practicing for a feature. Guys It would inspires us a lot if you check our shorts and if you could give us some feedback and suggestions ❤️ (from India).
How can't you make money with good shorts?! Cheers Film Courage!!
Very inspiring !! Watched some of the movies. I liked them.
Nice!
Thank you!!
OH! I love Victoria's short films! I learned about them because of Coryxkenshin's Spooky Scary Sundays xD
Video I needed! Thank you 🙏🌊
Nice, hope this helps!
Devil's door is the one that made me subscribe to their channel
working on a very specific short , professional promo team will promote it world wide due to its synnergy with another medium.. professional indie director /cinematographer will do it access to top equipment and studios. and due to everyone involved are doing it out of love, they volunteer despite their full schedules in the film industry what should cost 200000 usd will cost just 25...28000 usd. how can I find sponsors .national film funds won't work we are scattered. I don't know where to start
So this actress looked so familiar and I realized that I recognize her through coreyxkenshin and all his spooky scary sundays
I always believed this especially if good and suspenseful people will want and or buy more
These Rock!
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Ahh!! There’s still hope for us independent filmmakers to make money outside of the Big Screen ❤️🙏🏾 Great information!
Cheers! And hopefully those big screens come back soon.
Definitely an inspiration for workflow
Great insight and great attittude!
I have written an amazing short film but don't know how to get it made....
Need some help from Dubai
What’s it about?
Very interesting!
Shorts are like proving ground. Do some major motion picture is an improved version of a short?
Bottle rocket
absolutely agree on absolutely everything she said
Great interview!
This lady has a good personality. She reminds me of an SNL comedian.
All I want to know is "How smart or how stupid is my audience?".
I grew up with stuff like Batman the Animated Series and Gargoyles, I went to college watching Avatar the last Airbender and Full Metal Alchemist. I loved worlds I can learn, mature themes, but the (Lets face it) immature catharsis of fighting the way out of every problem.
I know a teenage audience would eat up reading or watching this stuff. Harry Potter, Naruto, and My Hero Academia succeed by literally making schools out of learning their worlds and the act of learning their narrative.
But I don't want to make a school story. I have an adventure in mind in world I made..........but I am stuck between making it too simple and making it too complicated.
Yes, engaging characters first........but I AS THE WRITER am already engaged. I have to pay other people to ghost write based on the nonsense I have been obsessing over. I get mixed answers where I need to simplify the story so that the most power character is the solution to all problems (Yeah, tell that to f*cking frodo) or I get so lost in my love for my own work that only my therapist can read the yarn I have been writing and rewriting hoping to get a reader.
I want to make a story ages 12-22 would love. How much information can they take and how do I keep them engaged?
"Smart or stupid" is the wrong approach. Think back to your own childhood, watching the shows you mentioned. Couldn't you tell when entertainment was pandering to your age group? Didn't you instinctively reject content that obviously pulled its punches to protect your young mind, or tried to emulate popular trends?
There's a difference between "kidz tv" and "suitable for all-ages." Just write what you want. Be true to your vision and lean into the elements you love the most. Then step back and ask yourself, "Would I sit down and watch this with my kids/nieces/nephews/friend's children? Are there actions or themes that I would feel uncomfortable watching in their presence?" If the answer is no, then don't worry about the emotional or psychological complexity. Well-written stories find their own audience.
Care more about the craft than the intended age group, because that care, that love, that vibrancy of vision, that artistic precision - *that's* what you innately responded to all those years ago, watching the shows of your youth.