Lots of good points in this video. I especially like the tip on making the threads in a segmented ring. Thank you for sharing. I am taking your advice and doing my best to stay safe.
Really good tips. Haven't done any thread chasng for . . . a long time! I think my reluctance is a confidence matter more than anything but there's really not much lost if, as you suggest, you make a collar or insert as the female thread. Like the suggestion of 'thread and test' cos double threading is easy to achieve!!! Well done. Short vid and very, very useful. It's challenged me to make a collar and top for a large hollow form I did some time ago. Thanks.
I said I would never do segmenting work but this may make a liar out of me. Whether going to the trouble of segmenting the blanks makes more sense than using an exotic remains to be seen from someone that does not already segment. Whether it is better is a judgement call not all hand chasers will agree on. One threading issue worth mentioning is the need for a recess if you are not turning into an open area like a collar. The male piece will need a recess for sure.
@Mike - All the old rules you have for threading such as the recess still apply. But probably not apparent in these clips. I know I cut a recess for both the male and female. I appreciate your views as a very experienced thread chaser. Also, you do not have to go clear over to the dark side of segmenting to make a ring for segmenting. :) Alan
My two favorite instructors in one place! I'm trying to retain the knowledge you both pass on, I probably wouldn't of had the guts to start turning if not for y'all!
Nice demo Alan. There is certainly a mystery about threading. I have a Threading Jig that is capable of making two start threads that make it really easy to screw on a lid. The sale of inserts has just been started by RonBrown’s Best for those not wanting to do their own. I have not had any requests but I could certainly produce custom inserts if wanted.
Hi Alan, I was thinking more on a National basis for custom threaded wood inserts. With shipping being so high, I think people might want to buy locally in Canada. I would be fun to help out with some neat projects. Note: I did not catch your point about two start threads. Are you able to do that with hand chasing. My jig actually can cut Real Two Start Threads, just like a coffee container. The starts are 180 degrees to each other.
@@peterfabricius662 I meant that people can easily chase threads and make their own inserts. (no shipping required). Otherwise, a national source would work. My mentor can chase two start threads. The jig I made a couple of years ago can 2,3, or 6 starts(kind of overkill). With 3d printing, I can print inserts with any (practical) number of starts. My note in the video is to develop the hand rhythm consistently cut single threads and to check before going too far into the chasing. I really hate trying to mate a single thread with a double thread. Alan
I have a friend here that can hand chase threads but it is too intimidating for most turners. The discussions about inserts will inspire turners to figure out if they want to try it themselves or find sources for inserts... I hope you do more on this, eg: incorporate inserts in an actual project that you demonstrate. Thanks
Excellent advice. I particularly liked the suggestion to use a segmented ring so that the threads are cut in face grain. Question: What are your thoughts on stabilizing the wood that will be threaded? A small segmented ring wouldn't require much resin to stabilize. Once stabilized, I would think the thread chasing would be even easier and the threads would be more durable.
I was working towards stabilizing wood when I learned about threading segmented wood. With stabilizing, I figured I could thread non-exotic woods. However, now, I would thread inserts from cherry, poplar, or maple. These wood do not need stabilizing since the threads are in continuous long grain. It is possible that stabilizing could improve these. But, is it worth the effort? You are free to try it. but I am not. :) Alan
David, I did not have real good luck with threading stabilized wood but I know one fellow that did. The more porous the wood, the easier it is to "turn it into plastic." Threading stabilized wood is as pleasant as chasing corian but more expensive and more effort.
Well, there are only 3 thread pitches that seem to have chasers available. 10-coarse, 16-medium, 20-fine. 16 is a good medium choice. or, you can flip a coin between 16 and 10. :) Leave the 20 to experienced chasers. Alan
No one has mentioned before this about the double threading. Great point.
They had not mentioned to me either.
Alan
Lots of good points in this video. I especially like the tip on making the threads in a segmented ring. Thank you for sharing. I am taking your advice and doing my best to stay safe.
Glad it was helpful! Glen
Alan
"fear of threading" is exactly it!!!
Fears are the biggest thing holding us back.
Alan
@@AsWoodTurns fear has also kept me safe though lol it's a good and bad thing haha
Thanks Allen, always very helpful!
My pleasure!
Alan
Good points on thread chasing. Thanks
No problem! Ken
Alan
Thanks for the primer. It will help when I get up the gumption to start using my 2 year old threading set!
Monday - next week would be great!
Alan
VERY good tips thanks. Tim
Thank you
Alan
Great advice, thanks for all the work you do to advance turning
You are very welcome Scott. Keep up with your great examples.
Alan
Really fantastic job.
Thank you very much!
Alan
Thanks a lot, Alan, very helpful!!
Gratzie Mauro
Alan
@@AsWoodTurns Alan, you have to write grazie, nor gratzie 😅😅. Prego
Really good tips. Haven't done any thread chasng for . . . a long time! I think my reluctance is a confidence matter more than anything but there's really not much lost if, as you suggest, you make a collar or insert as the female thread. Like the suggestion of 'thread and test' cos double threading is easy to achieve!!! Well done. Short vid and very, very useful. It's challenged me to make a collar and top for a large hollow form I did some time ago. Thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
Alan
Good tips Alan! I like to thread chase at lower speeds,350-450rpm seems good for my best results👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
That's is a good range if you are keeping up. :) Better yet, not pushing it to a double.
Alan
I said I would never do segmenting work but this may make a liar out of me. Whether going to the trouble of segmenting the blanks makes more sense than using an exotic remains to be seen from someone that does not already segment. Whether it is better is a judgement call not all hand chasers will agree on. One threading issue worth mentioning is the need for a recess if you are not turning into an open area like a collar. The male piece will need a recess for sure.
@Mike - All the old rules you have for threading such as the recess still apply. But probably not apparent in these clips. I know I cut a recess for both the male and female. I appreciate your views as a very experienced thread chaser.
Also, you do not have to go clear over to the dark side of segmenting to make a ring for segmenting. :)
Alan
My two favorite instructors in one place! I'm trying to retain the knowledge you both pass on, I probably wouldn't of had the guts to start turning if not for y'all!
Thanks for this video, i especially like it. Ive always been interested in how to do this. I think a threaded lid would really set a piece apart.
You are welcome. They are great.
Alan
Nice demo Alan. There is certainly a mystery about threading. I have a Threading Jig that is capable of making two start threads that make it really easy to screw on a lid. The sale of inserts has just been started by RonBrown’s Best for those not wanting to do their own. I have not had any requests but I could certainly produce custom inserts if wanted.
I doubt you will get many requests. :( I spilled the beans. :)
Alan
Hi Alan, I was thinking more on a National basis for custom threaded wood inserts. With shipping being so high, I think people might want to buy locally in Canada. I would be fun to help out with some neat projects. Note: I did not catch your point about two start threads. Are you able to do that with hand chasing. My jig actually can cut Real Two Start Threads, just like a coffee container. The starts are 180 degrees to each other.
@@peterfabricius662 I meant that people can easily chase threads and make their own inserts. (no shipping required). Otherwise, a national source would work.
My mentor can chase two start threads. The jig I made a couple of years ago can 2,3, or 6 starts(kind of overkill). With 3d printing, I can print inserts with any (practical) number of starts.
My note in the video is to develop the hand rhythm consistently cut single threads and to check before going too far into the chasing. I really hate trying to mate a single thread with a double thread.
Alan
I have a friend here that can hand chase threads but it is too intimidating for most turners. The discussions about inserts will inspire turners to figure out if they want to try it themselves or find sources for inserts... I hope you do more on this, eg: incorporate inserts in an actual project that you demonstrate. Thanks
Excellent advice. I particularly liked the suggestion to use a segmented ring so that the threads are cut in face grain.
Question: What are your thoughts on stabilizing the wood that will be threaded? A small segmented ring wouldn't require much resin to stabilize. Once stabilized, I would think the thread chasing would be even easier and the threads would be more durable.
I was working towards stabilizing wood when I learned about threading segmented wood. With stabilizing, I figured I could thread non-exotic woods. However, now, I would thread inserts from cherry, poplar, or maple. These wood do not need stabilizing since the threads are in continuous long grain. It is possible that stabilizing could improve these. But, is it worth the effort?
You are free to try it. but I am not. :)
Alan
David, I did not have real good luck with threading stabilized wood but I know one fellow that did. The more porous the wood, the easier it is to "turn it into plastic." Threading stabilized wood is as pleasant as chasing corian but more expensive and more effort.
I have wanted to try threading, didn't know what tools to try. Allso whether there was a thread pitch better than another. Still looking into it.
Well, there are only 3 thread pitches that seem to have chasers available. 10-coarse, 16-medium, 20-fine. 16 is a good medium choice. or, you can flip a coin between 16 and 10. :) Leave the 20 to experienced chasers.
Alan
What was the liquid you used on the male threads?
That was walnut oil that I also use often for finishing.
Alan