Is your lead wrist bowed, flat, or cupped at the top?? 🔑🌪 *Milo's 5 KEYS to a Rotational Golf Swing: milolinesgolf.com/5-keys-to-unlocking-a-rotational-golf-swing/
90s instruction got me that strong/cupped grip, handsy at impact, hip sway instead of rotate, inconsistent for 30yrs. Compared to 1yr of weaker grip, flat-slightly bowed wrist, squared face at impact, zero hand-flippidy-doo-daa and rotating with lower body leading the chest that leads the arms --- massive improvement in solid ball striking at a level of consistency I never could have imagined.
Finally it makes sense. I’ve always had a strong grip and bowing it like DJ or Collin just never worked or made sense to me. It didn’t feel comfortable and would also make the face way shut.
I really like how you dissected the right hand grip and its importance in the matchup. I think that is something that is often overlooked, generally all the fuzz would be about your left hand being bowed or cupped. Essentially the left hand wrist position is a product of what the right hand is doing. Good stuff as always!
In town for my lessons with Milo. Can’t wait to see what he has for me. All these videos are extremely well done. The team does a great job explaining the lessons in easy and for me understandable language and examples. He’s definitely gonna have his hands full.
Love this discussion. Lots of other channels say “do this” without telling you fully why or what the consequences of having differing grips will have on the shot. Learned a lot! It definitely explains why my stronger grip doesn’t love a lot of left wrist bend. A little goes a long way.
Great video. Most instructors want me to weaken my grip to eliminate my hook miss so I try to but I can't seem to time the correct amount of bow to my wrist so instead of missing left I miss right. Most instruction is geared towards releasing the club with a neutral or weakish grip and I think I've been caught in between patterns. I don't get nearly as much wrist pain with a stronger lead hand grip so any release content on how to play with a stronger grip especially as it relates to the short game would be greatly appreciated.
We generally prefer the stronger grip and learning to match it with a good pivot and a release with very little twist. We’d love to coach you through the process. Join us at milolinesgolf.com to get Free monthly swing evaluations and practice plans as well as access to my step by step learning process and live monthly webinars.
Great discussion on shallowing. bowing can mean many things to different golfers. I cant bow, but I think in terms of more pronation of my lead hand/wrist,and notice less fade/slices when I put in more pronation. thanks John
Never heard a distinction between wrist action at top of swing (determined by the trail wrist) and at impact (by the left wrist)! For years, I tried to get into a Hogan-like impact position of the lead hand (bowed) and it never worked--I would even get a 'stinger' type feel in my lead arm at impact! Never understood it till now--thanks for clearing that up!
Mr Milo’s, when I watch your swing in slow motion, I feel like playing golf! Your swing is so perfect…shallowing, rotation, shaft lean and lag control.. who could rip this apart? Lol. Thanks for your awesome lessons.
I really enjoyed the tips you gave me I’m a beginner golfer and How do I get frustrated but watching your clubs helps me to calm down and learn to enjoy the game thanks a lot running thanks a lot
I’m confused. There seems to be two ways of bowing. (1) Extending the trail wrist which pulls the lead wrist in the same direction, and (2) by twisting the handle downwards i.e the motorcycle move, to bow the wrist. Which one is correct?
I’m playing better from these lessons but when I try that shallowing motion with my irons I hit a right shank and I go left so it’s a very strange problem for me to diagnose. I’m sure it’s a hozzle rocket, but it just works better for me to feel I keep a very solid wrist structure (no shallow move) through impact. Now I struggle with longer clubs 6 on up going left way to much and driver is just a mystery right now. Goes way to high on driver and I still can get 270-280 on it but the flight is so high I’m sure I’m losing 15-20 yards carry and no roll. The shallowing motion helps sometimes but the long clubs are just a struggle. I’ll keep combing through these vids though. Thank you guys for all your knowledge.
Damn wonder if they did this vid yesterday. It was like 100 in chandler yesterday. Have to wonder what the temperature in Apache junction was seeing they wearing coats
Hey Milo I have a question: I know that shallowing and bowing the wrist is the right matchup but isn't cupping or bowing irrelevant because shallowing happens through forearm rotation and has nothing to do with the wrist? Thanks!
You are correct that shallowing happens mainly through supination of the trail forearm, however the hands and wrists control the face which is kind of important and must be matched up to hit good shots.
I think that it was Jack Nicklaus's swing coach that said all very good golfers have a relationship feel between the back of the lead hand and the face of the club. Video idea. Is this true?
I can tend to hang back and flip at times, my instructor said cause I’m too closed at have way back and top of swing. I think I hang back and flip when I come over the top. What do you think would be the cause? His fix is a more Neutral grip specifically on left hand where I tend to be more across top of finger since adjusting to a nutral left hand is causing pain in left thumb what would cause that. Thx
My grip is neutral left strong right. If I take the club back naturally, I end up with a cup at the top. But if in the first few feet I "feel" like my left palm faces the sky, I end up flat or bowed at the top. Not sure which approach I should use, any thoughts?
Hard to give specific advice without seeing your swing. You should consider becoming a member of my online academy so you can get monthly swing evaluations and actionable advice from me and my team! milolinesgolf.com
@@MiloLinesGolf that’s what I assumed. I’m always wondering if my wrist positions are hindering my ability of the wrist to hinge well. Always tinkering with this.
I'm working on swallowing my swing now, but instead of your backswing being steep then bowing your leading wrist at the top of your swing, why not just swing on your backswing straight to that position? To me it seems like there would be one less move to think about...especially if it's an unnatural move for someone.
My swing appears steeper than it is due to my extremely long arms. In reality Sergio Garcia (one of the shallower looking swings) and I swing on exactly the same plane. instagram.com/p/CXkb8VOrQRd/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
@@MiloLinesGolf I guess my perception of shallow is this way under move. Which it isn’t. You are what shallow should be . I think others look at a Brooke Henderson model and see that is shallow. Which is totally opposite what we should be doing . As she does hers . But has no other alternative to flip like crazy since she is so under the plane and out . Versus you on plane and swinging in with little face closure
I have numerous videos that go into more detail on those subjects, I prefer keep our videos narrow in focus as not to cover everything at once. Thanks for the watch.
Is your lead wrist bowed, flat, or cupped at the top??
🔑🌪 *Milo's 5 KEYS to a Rotational Golf Swing: milolinesgolf.com/5-keys-to-unlocking-a-rotational-golf-swing/
90s instruction got me that strong/cupped grip, handsy at impact, hip sway instead of rotate, inconsistent for 30yrs. Compared to 1yr of weaker grip, flat-slightly bowed wrist, squared face at impact, zero hand-flippidy-doo-daa and rotating with lower body leading the chest that leads the arms --- massive improvement in solid ball striking at a level of consistency I never could have imagined.
Glad you’re seeing improvements!
Finally it makes sense. I’ve always had a strong grip and bowing it like DJ or Collin just never worked or made sense to me. It didn’t feel comfortable and would also make the face way shut.
Glad we could help!
I really like how you dissected the right hand grip and its importance in the matchup. I think that is something that is often overlooked, generally all the fuzz would be about your left hand being bowed or cupped.
Essentially the left hand wrist position is a product of what the right hand is doing. Good stuff as always!
That is how I seen it. Thanks for watching.
You guys are so awesome! Some of the most wholehearted people out there who know a lot about Golf!!
Thanks Glenn
In town for my lessons with Milo. Can’t wait to see what he has for me. All these videos are extremely well done. The team does a great job explaining the lessons in easy and for me understandable language and examples.
He’s definitely gonna have his hands full.
Let's get after it Mark!
Milo has an amazing swing! 👏
Thanks you’re too kind!
Love this discussion. Lots of other channels say “do this” without telling you fully why or what the consequences of having differing grips will have on the shot. Learned a lot! It definitely explains why my stronger grip doesn’t love a lot of left wrist bend. A little goes a long way.
Glad we could help clear things up!
Great video. Most instructors want me to weaken my grip to eliminate my hook miss so I try to but I can't seem to time the correct amount of bow to my wrist so instead of missing left I miss right. Most instruction is geared towards releasing the club with a neutral or weakish grip and I think I've been caught in between patterns. I don't get nearly as much wrist pain with a stronger lead hand grip so any release content on how to play with a stronger grip especially as it relates to the short game would be greatly appreciated.
We generally prefer the stronger grip and learning to match it with a good pivot and a release with very little twist. We’d love to coach you through the process. Join us at milolinesgolf.com to get Free monthly swing evaluations and practice plans as well as access to my step by step learning process and live monthly webinars.
Great discussion on shallowing.
bowing can mean many things to different golfers.
I cant bow, but I think in terms of more pronation of my lead hand/wrist,and notice less fade/slices when I put in more pronation.
thanks John
Glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for the watch!
Never heard a distinction between wrist action at top of swing (determined by the trail wrist) and at impact (by the left wrist)! For years, I tried to get into a Hogan-like impact position of the lead hand (bowed) and it never worked--I would even get a 'stinger' type feel in my lead arm at impact! Never understood it till now--thanks for clearing that up!
Glad it cleared some things up!
Mr Milo’s, when I watch your swing in slow motion, I feel like playing golf! Your swing is so perfect…shallowing, rotation, shaft lean and lag control.. who could rip this apart? Lol. Thanks for your awesome lessons.
Thanks Harold
I really enjoyed the tips you gave me I’m a beginner golfer and How do I get frustrated but watching your clubs helps me to calm down and learn to enjoy the game thanks a lot running thanks a lot
Thanks for watching!
I’m confused. There seems to be two ways of bowing. (1) Extending the trail wrist which pulls the lead wrist in the same direction, and (2) by twisting the handle downwards i.e the motorcycle move, to bow the wrist. Which one is correct?
I’m playing better from these lessons but when I try that shallowing motion with my irons I hit a right shank and I go left so it’s a very strange problem for me to diagnose. I’m sure it’s a hozzle rocket, but it just works better for me to feel I keep a very solid wrist structure (no shallow move) through impact. Now I struggle with longer clubs 6 on up going left way to much and driver is just a mystery right now. Goes way to high on driver and I still can get 270-280 on it but the flight is so high I’m sure I’m losing 15-20 yards carry and no roll. The shallowing motion helps sometimes but the long clubs are just a struggle. I’ll keep combing through these vids though. Thank you guys for all your knowledge.
You are opening the face as the COM shallows you might try watching our video on the doorknob move for another perspective
More great stuff, thanks yet again👍🏻
You bet Gerry, thanks for watching!
This explanation is perfect. I really hate all of the bowing left wrist talk. Thanks
Thanks for watching
Excellent!
Thanks for watching!
Great explanation. I’ll be trying the weak lead wrist, strong right hand to see if I can bow at the top
Works for some, but not typically my preference.
Damn wonder if they did this vid yesterday. It was like 100 in chandler yesterday. Have to wonder what the temperature in Apache junction was seeing they wearing coats
We did this a while back haha
Hey Milo I have a question:
I know that shallowing and bowing the wrist is the right matchup but isn't cupping or bowing irrelevant because shallowing happens through forearm rotation and has nothing to do with the wrist?
Thanks!
You are correct that shallowing happens mainly through supination of the trail forearm, however the hands and wrists control the face which is kind of important and must be matched up to hit good shots.
I think that it was Jack Nicklaus's swing coach that said all very good golfers have a relationship feel between the back of the lead hand and the face of the club. Video idea. Is this true?
All good players have a good feel for the face for sure.
I can tend to hang back and flip at times, my instructor said cause I’m too closed at have way back and top of swing. I think I hang back and flip when I come over the top. What do you think would be the cause? His fix is a more Neutral grip specifically on left hand where I tend to be more across top of finger since adjusting to a nutral left hand is causing pain in left thumb what would cause that. Thx
I’d have to see your swing to give you any ideas.
My grip is neutral left strong right. If I take the club back naturally, I end up with a cup at the top. But if in the first few feet I "feel" like my left palm faces the sky, I end up flat or bowed at the top. Not sure which approach I should use, any thoughts?
Hard to give specific advice without seeing your swing. You should consider becoming a member of my online academy so you can get monthly swing evaluations and actionable advice from me and my team! milolinesgolf.com
How should you decide what strength grip to use for both the left and right hand though?
My preference is neutral to you, which for most players is slightly strong left and neutral right
@@MiloLinesGolf that’s what I assumed. I’m always wondering if my wrist positions are hindering my ability of the wrist to hinge well. Always tinkering with this.
I'm working on swallowing my swing now, but instead of your backswing being steep then bowing your leading wrist at the top of your swing, why not just swing on your backswing straight to that position? To me it seems like there would be one less move to think about...especially if it's an unnatural move for someone.
Way easier to get physics working for you if you move the club up to under. It’s a pattern we see in most hitting sports.
@@MiloLinesGolf
Thanks!
Doesn’t matter so much where you are at the top it’s all about impact “
There are a lot of things that lead up to that good impact and getting there can be made easier if you get those things sorted out.
Little steep for my liking
My swing appears steeper than it is due to my extremely long arms. In reality Sergio Garcia (one of the shallower looking swings) and I swing on exactly the same plane. instagram.com/p/CXkb8VOrQRd/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
@@MiloLinesGolf I guess my perception of shallow is this way under move. Which it isn’t. You are what shallow should be . I think others look at a Brooke Henderson model and see that is shallow. Which is totally opposite what we should be doing . As she does hers . But has no other alternative to flip like crazy since she is so under the plane and out . Versus you on plane and swinging in with little face closure
I have never seen so little demonstration and so much talking ever. Some people can play golf,and others teach golf. This is clear on the video
light bulb moment here.
Thanks Matthew
Failed video because neither of you spend the required time to define strong & weak using photos & release video.
I have numerous videos that go into more detail on those subjects, I prefer keep our videos narrow in focus as not to cover everything at once. Thanks for the watch.