Very late to respond, but the framework of the game is that it's a holodeck simulation that a Starfleet officer is undergoing as part of a "cultural exchange" effort, and Gowron is your guide. If you screw up, he yells at you about what you did wrong, then tells you to do it again.
@@chrisphilhower6029 Yes, in this scene. But I wonder how he would look like when he encounters a Pakled patchwork ship. Well, sadly he can't meet them anymore.
@@raven4k998Straight up Wiley Coyote and Roadrunner vibes lmao That "Get a load of this guy huh?" Look to the camera, the outright goofy dialogue, all it was missing was the comedic music.
would you believe, a guy in work was supposed to come in for an investigation meeting but phoned up and said he couldn't come. I didn't accept his reason for not coming and he was getting irate and eventually said he was coming in to tell me to his face why he couldn't come in for the meeting. True story
Bugs Bunny:"Duck season"! Daffy Duck:"Rabbit season"! Bugs Bunny:"Duck season"! Daffy Duck:"Rabbit season"! Then, they both stop, and look at Elmer Fudd, and say, in unison: "Elmer season"! In this case, though, Gowron must be thinking: "Pakled season"!!! Mwahahahahaha!!! This Pakled looks to be seriously stupid...and ugly, too.
He still shows up at conventions (well, when we weren't shut down thanks to a world crippling pandemic), I think sometimes even in costume and make up. He and JG Hertzler (Gen Martok, and a ton of one shot characters) have some genuine love for their characters, and playing as them
@@raven4k998 paraphrase [ˈperəˌfrāz ] VERB express the meaning of (the writer or speaker or something written or spoken) using different words, especially to achieve greater clarity. "you can either quote or paraphrase literary texts" synonyms: reword · rephrase · [more] NOUN a rewording of something written or spoken by someone else. "scattered here and there in the text are frank paraphrases of lines from Virgil, Cicero, and Quintilian" · [more] synonyms: rewording · rephrasing · rewriting ·
It's a well-established and time-honored theatric technique called "breaking the fourth wall," dating back to Shakespearean times and the Globe Theater, and perhaps even back before then, as the ancient Greeks loved the theater also. It's an imaginary "wall" between the actors and the audience. Usually all the action takes place on the stage between the characters playing out the story (this applies to movies also) and the audience are merely spectators. It makes for a rare and special interaction when the actor turns from the three walls of the set and "breaks the fourth wall" to address the audience directly, in a way bringing them in on the "gag" and turning them from spectators into participants. Done well, it can create a strong bond between character and audience, and that is the pinnacle of success for an actor.
I like how instead of just using usual Klingon intimidation tactics and threats, Gowron instantly reads the situation and comes up with a clever mind game to trick the Pakled into doing what he wants.
The biggest criticism of Gowron was that he was a politician, not a Warrior. You'd have to be 11/10 charisma to survive as Chancellor like he did, without someone besides Word gutting him.
Remembering how Picard and the Enterprise-D had trouble getting through to the Pakleds in their episode, it shows that Gowron not only had previous dealings with these space-morons, but knows damn well which buttons to press with them to get what he wants. Clever.
"You mean Riker. We never saw Picard trying to deal with the Pakled. In fact, Picard wasn't even onboard at the time; he had left to go get a medical procedure done before all that happened." -That Guy
@@ServantOfOdin Yeah, they weren't just freaking out over getting Geordi back for the obvious reasons, but also at the end because Picard's surgery wasn't going well and they specifically needed Dr. Pulaski to go save the day since there was nobody else nearby who could do it for some reason. Our first episode with the Pakled and they weren't even the dumbest part of it.
@@TesseractE As a law student, it horrifies me that there is an actual chance of running into a lawyer this stupid. A tiny chance, but fools like me run on hope.
When I watch this again, I’m just bemused at how they cranked the “stupid” knob on this Pakled to 11. “I won’t board your ship and I won’t explain why.” “But I don’t understand: can you board out ship and explain?” “Okay, I’ll board your ship to explain to you why I won’t board your ship.”
I will always appreciate how Gowron admired Quarks courage against Degor. Even though Quark knew he didn’t stand a chance, he was willing to die to deny Degor the honor of killing him in battle. Knowing his death would have proved Degor’s true colors. So I was glad Gowron stepped in and stopped it.”A courageous Farengi who would have thought” One of the best episodes with a Farengi in it.
Gowron may not be a klingon we are used to see on screen: he is much more hesitant than any klingon we saw on screen and is prone to schemes and machinations but he is most deffinately not a fool.
I couldn't agree more. To add to it, I always loved how general Martok respected the fuck out of Nog for standing his ground as a cadet and telling him and his men off for loitering on the promenade. "Are you brave or just stupid?" "A little bit of both!" Gets me everytime haha
I'd say one of the other good moments of Klingons just having a good time was way back during the episode of TNG where Riker served on the Pagh. But it's almost the ENTIRETY of this game. XD One of my other favorites was this not entirely subtle reference to Worf's Mom: ruclips.net/video/4vekUH0O04Y/видео.html
So I actually met Gowron....like full on in character met him. We were on a Star Trek Cruise for my mothers birthday. I didn't know they had a "Klingon Pub Crawl" with Robert O'Reilly reprising Gowron leading it! So I went to the bar to get a couple drinks, I saw a lot of people cosplaying Klingons but didn't think anything of it because that was one of the things that you could do, pay to get made up in complete costume. So I order my drinks and turn around and there is Gowron, full regalia staring into my soul with those beedy a$$ eyes!! I was hella geeked out at that point, so I just held out a drink and shouted the only klingon work I could think of...'KAPLAH" He hit me with that same smile, took the drink and we downed them together...next thing I know I'm doing the pub crawl with Gowron and I didnt even pay for it...lmao (0.o)
That's amazing! XD If you haven't already, check out the full playthrough linked in the description. There are some great bar scenes that might feel familiar!
He was also noted as being incredibly tenacious which did made him dangerious in combat too. To be fair he wasn't bad at stratergy either, it was just his seeing Martok as a threat to his rule that caused the poor strategic decisions at his end, and that was deliberate to disgrace Martok & not bad stratergy on his part. His only mistake was forgetting Worf existed & he didn't give a shit about his own future in the empire. He was the one Klingon who really could get away with murdering him.
@@HereticDuo Not to mention smart in combat. As for military strategy, Gowron could likely propose general ideas like "We must strike in this area of the enemy's territory" and leave the details to the generals like Martok and let them figure out precisely how to carry out his orders. As for discrediting Martok, it wasn't needed. If Gowron was worried that Martok sought to take his place as Chancellor, he could've kept him on a short leash and have his agents keep a close eye on him.
+Damien Green Sorta. The whole game is designed to be like you're playing a role in a holodeck program, so characters routinely address the camera. Sometimes Gowron can get so pissed if you screw up he starts throttling the camera.
God you can just tell Robert O'Reily is having an absolute blast playing gowron in this,. And that mel brooks camera stare 1:13 to the audience had me laughing my ass off. This is great. I wish he could have shown this side of gowron in TNG and DS9.
@@TesseractE they all had a lot of fun making the game, the Klingon actors would often go to the food craft services in full costume and makeup and stay in character just for the hell of it, including Robert O'Reilly as Gowron.. with Johnathan Frakes following afterwards and apologizing profusely. 🤣
Just imagine a sitcom starring Gowron and him having to "negotiate" with other species and host dinners for starfleet admirals and captains and deal with Ferengi con artists and stuff
Yeah, Gowron went off the deep end thanks to the Martok Changeling who made him attack the Cardassians, break off the alliance with the Federation and then go to war with the Federation.
@@TesseractE when I saw an episode of "In the Heat of the Night", I knew that it was Robert O'Reilly by the eyes, and he sounded like Gowron with a Cajun accent (he was playing a New Orleans mobster). In that episode, Caroll O'connor's character Chief Gillespie knocked him on his ass for beating up his (the Chief's) daughter. O'Reilly said he wouldn't have done that if those cops weren't there. O'Connor said "if they weren't there, I'd have shot you."
Gowron can say more with his eyes then most people can with their mouths. Unfortunately 99% of what he's saying is "I'm gonna turn your skin into a suit".
Gowron was one of the funniest characters, and deserved more story arcs to involve him. A very interesting individual, he gave dimension (or, dare I say, humanity) to the Klingon people. He is the essence of bluster, yet he actually survives by being wily.
The problem was that the writers relied too heavily on Worf as the gateway character into Klingon centered episodes. Nothing against Worf, but if you make every Klingon episode about him then it starts to get really samey.
@@JonathanRodd Martok was so much better at being Klingon than Worf was, and I'm glad he took Worf the Wi'a'bU under his wings to show him what it was REALLY all about.
@@TesseractE In Worf's defense, his failure at being a true Klingon was kind of the point of his character. He obsessed over knowing as much about Klingon customs and history (more so than the average Klingon) because he was forced to grow up and live among humans and that knowledge helped him feel closer to his people. But whenever he tries to put that knowledge into practice among other Klingons, he stands out like a sore thumb.
"We look for things to make us go." Gowron, "Then you must try the mighty warriors drink that Commander Worf has introduced to the Klingon Empire...prune juice."
I remember am interview Robert O'Reilly did where he described Gowron as "nuts". The way he prances across the bridge and yells "On Screeeeen" at the screen for no apparent reason is hilarious.
@@Kromaatikse either that or Klingon society is like a predatory pack, the leader must constantly remind the others of his authority even if it’s to show aggression ritualistically.
@1:10 "It is difficult to understand..." :D Hahahaha! A pakled speaking with a southern drawl and Gowron's insane smile while nodding like a school yard bully, it's hilarious! xD
@@zxGHOSTr how much other technology did the ferengi have to give them before they could get to warp drive? I'd be surprised if they developed writing on their own lol
I thought who ever made them villains, probably was a warhammer 40k fans sense they turn them into Orks. They both have warships scraped together from mutiple species ships.
My god I'd forgotten Robert O'Reilly's genius playing Gowron. The look at the camera at 1:15 was perfect. Sums up everything that was great about him and that character.
Martok would've had trouble keeping a straight face and he would've reacted much worse, probably laughing at him. Gowron did a great job keeping a straight face dealing with the Pak'led.
Despite being Klingon, Gawron was definitely more of a peace-time leader. He excelled in diplomacy. Martok was a war-time leader. Tactics and strategy were his bread and butter.
@@lycanmotionsYou made me remember that episode of Lower Decks in which a Klingon rogue Captain is selling weapons to the Pakleds and he keeps facepalming due to their ideas.
One of the keys to negotiation is to put your ego aside! A lot of people will be forever frustrated because they will not do this. "In business as in life you don't get what's fair, you get what you negotiate".
Leonidas Feuer: I think this was actually good enough. It was about an hour of completely fresh Trek with Gowron in most of it. If you haven't watched DS9 yet, do so... You'll get more Gowron, but you'll like Martok more. ;)
Leonidas Feuer: It wasn't an episode, it was an FMV game (Star Trek: Klingon). You can find the full video on RUclips if you don't want to hunt down the game itself. ^^d
No what they should have done was make the Klingon tv show based around Worf's character like Michael Dorn wanted and had Gowron as a recurring character. And the sister show could have been Riker as the captain of the Titan. That's what should have happened!!!
I like how Gowron verbally treated him like an complete idiot. In 0:16. You can hear Gowron trying not to instantly burst out laughing in the background and before dealing with him in 0:28.
That was the most aggressive ordering of "On screen" by a starship captain I have ever heard. Bridge crew member: "We're being hailed" Gowron: (Growling very loudly) "OOON SCREEEEEEN!!!!!" As if he had been ordering 'on screen' several times and got no response. 🤣
Gowron has got to be one of my favorite enduring characters just for his complexities. He's a trickster, he's a warrior, he's honorable, he's ambitious and none of it feels contradictory, and it ended fittingly for him when his pride and overconfidence became his undoing. It was all just a natural progression of him emphasizing different notes.
1:32 i love how she's trying to keep a straight face while gowron is out smarting the the pakled or to quote another comment here "out stupid a pakled"
They should have done an episode where someone goes to the Pakled homeworld and discovers it is populated by incredibly intelligent and quick-witted folks, because all the "slow" Pakled are used to crew ships.
Reminds me of Ringworld, where Louis Wu discovers not just the Puppeteer diplomat he's dealing with is insane, but _all_ their space crews and diplomats are. They only send them because you'd have ti be crazy to go to space. 😂
What I got from the LD Pakled storyline is that they're greedy, unmotivated, and lazy, but not quite absolute morons. Their plan to frame Freeman would have worked. In fact, I'd say that they went to a *great deal* of effort to cheat the federation out of resources, ultimately to avoid doing any of the hard work of maintaining a society themselves.@@TheClintonio
This was 100% the kindest exchange anyone has ever had with a Pakled on screen. Gowron pointed out that preconceptions were not true, And simply insisted on a dialouge about what each side was thinking. As someone who sometimes has trouble keeping up with conversations, This was extremely heartwarming to watch. That it came from Gowron and not Picard is strangely appropriate.
It seemed more condescending than kind to me, but he was still showing how different people need different verbal tactics to get through. Something not in this clip is that the Pakled ship is damaged and if they go to warp, their core would explode. Gowron needs information and doesn't want to spook the Pakled into fleeing and blowing themselves up (which can happen if you accidentally cloak when you try to beam the Pakled over.)
@@TesseractE Condescension coming from the assumption that they weren't friendly is a strangely peaceful way to open negotiations with someone who doesn't want to really cause problems. Gowron deserved better than to die in DS9.
Absolutely! "He will triumph who knows when to fight and when not to fight." I bet LOTS of Klingons were all "Hey, K'mpec, have you seen this human text called 'The Art of War'?"
Lol. Gowron is TOO much. What an awesome character. Paraphrased from The Good Chancellor: "I will not give this clip a "thumbs-down" (or bend my knee to a test-tube Kahless) so long as I can still draw breath...or pick-up a blaaaaade (or type on the keyboard)."
In-game, you're taking part in a Klingon Cultural Immersion holodeck program. They address the camera CONSTANTLY, but I rather like the 'personal' feel.
Gowron really is good dealing with various peoples.. I liked when he looked at us, breaking the fourth wall. The various clips I have seen from the game gave me a new respect for Gowron
Actually, if I recall correctly, the game is _intended_ to be seen from the perspective of the player character so he actually nodded at you, the player.
Didn't read the description, thought this was just a clip from a barely remembered episode of DS9 or something, then Gowron literally turned and looked at me. I pooped a little...
"We are being hailed." "Unsurprising. What _is_ surprising is that you had to walk way over here to tell me this instead of just announcing it from your station. Why did you do this? Do you lack confidence in your abilities of projection?"
While we're on Star Trek Pet Peeves... "Crew to Captain." "Yeah?" "You'd better come down here." "Wh.... Why can't you just TELL me? Maybe even tell me while I'm on the way if I REALLY need to be down there?"
Lazy Perfectionist , I noticed that too. She should have said: "No, it's that I have a small part and I'm trying to milk it for everything it's worth. I was in the makeup chair for THREE HOURS!!"
Gowron breaking the fourth wall to give us his signature glare in this clip is probably one of his finest moments.
Oliver Hardy
Alan Hale Jr (skipper)
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Love it.
It is a video game, and he is glaring at the player in FPV.
Yeah there is a lot of 4th wall breaking in this show.
HILARIOUS 😂😂
Very late to respond, but the framework of the game is that it's a holodeck simulation that a Starfleet officer is undergoing as part of a "cultural exchange" effort, and Gowron is your guide. If you screw up, he yells at you about what you did wrong, then tells you to do it again.
Anyone can out smart a Pakled, but it takes real cunning to out stupid a Pakled
As long as Pakleds have weaker ships.
Haha
@@nackteHintern Pretty sure Gowron has the better ship.
@@chrisphilhower6029 Yes, in this scene. But I wonder how he would look like when he encounters a Pakled patchwork ship. Well, sadly he can't meet them anymore.
@@chrisphilhower6029 I'm pretty sure Gowron just didn't feel like consuming the anti-matter blasting these p''tahks into the next life.
"Come aboard our ship to explain why you're afraid to come aboard our ship".... Best line ever
I love how the Pakled fell for that one🤣🤣🤣pure looney tunes comedy right there🤣🤣🤣
@@raven4k998Straight up Wiley Coyote and Roadrunner vibes lmao That "Get a load of this guy huh?" Look to the camera, the outright goofy dialogue, all it was missing was the comedic music.
You are good negotiator Paklid
would you believe, a guy in work was supposed to come in for an investigation meeting but phoned up and said he couldn't come. I didn't accept his reason for not coming and he was getting irate and eventually said he was coming in to tell me to his face why he couldn't come in for the meeting. True story
@@RaceDayReplayI believe it. I'm objectively an intelligent person, and I lost a pen in my hand last week. We are interesting creatures.
I swear Gowron just pulled off some Looney Tunes maneuver akin to Duck Season vs Rabbit Season
"Well whaddaya know... It *IS* Pakled season!"
Clearly Gowron is the wabbit in this.
Gowron is Daffy and Bugs - who were both black, like the Klingons
1:14 100% looney tunes
Bugs Bunny:"Duck season"!
Daffy Duck:"Rabbit season"!
Bugs Bunny:"Duck season"!
Daffy Duck:"Rabbit season"!
Then, they both stop, and look at Elmer Fudd, and say, in unison:
"Elmer season"!
In this case, though, Gowron must be thinking:
"Pakled season"!!! Mwahahahahaha!!!
This Pakled looks to be seriously stupid...and ugly, too.
Dude who played Gowron had SO much fun with him as Crazy Eyes, you can tell.
Robert O'Reilly
He still shows up at conventions (well, when we weren't shut down thanks to a world crippling pandemic), I think sometimes even in costume and make up. He and JG Hertzler (Gen Martok, and a ton of one shot characters) have some genuine love for their characters, and playing as them
@@Canoby I would imagine. There's a reason they both came back in STO.
I came here for the Gowron eyes. There is so much acting in his eyes that they should of won an award.
I love him breaking the fourth wall.
"You must come aboard our ship to explain why you will not come aboard our ship."
"Yes."
you must come aboard and explain why are afraid to come aboard
James Carmichael Yes I will come aboard and explain
@@raven4k998
paraphrase
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express the meaning of (the writer or speaker or something written or spoken) using different words, especially to achieve greater clarity.
"you can either quote or paraphrase literary texts"
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Hmmm... Checks out to me! XD
Speech 100
Love the way Gowron looks at the camera and makes that "watch this" look with his eyes.
Gets me every time, too. :D
It's a well-established and time-honored theatric technique called "breaking the fourth wall," dating back to Shakespearean times and the Globe Theater, and perhaps even back before then, as the ancient Greeks loved the theater also. It's an imaginary "wall" between the actors and the audience. Usually all the action takes place on the stage between the characters playing out the story (this applies to movies also) and the audience are merely spectators. It makes for a rare and special interaction when the actor turns from the three walls of the set and "breaks the fourth wall" to address the audience directly, in a way bringing them in on the "gag" and turning them from spectators into participants. Done well, it can create a strong bond between character and audience, and that is the pinnacle of success for an actor.
Breaking the 4th wall there... Not something that Star Trek does.
@@sygmarvexarion7891 he isnt, he is looking at your character
This is a cutscene from an old live action Star Trek game. He looks at the camera because that's the player.
Gowron even exceeded Capt. Picard's diplomatic skills in that encounter. lol.
"Diplomacy is the art of telling someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip."
@@TesseractE I never thought about that.
@@TesseractE Diplomacy is the art of saying "nice doggy, nice doggy"...while urgently looking for a brick to knock him endways with.
- Mark Twain -
@@TesseractE Churchill.
@@TesseractE *nothing says "No" like a shovel to the face whiled by a disgruntled Klingon having a bad day*
I like how instead of just using usual Klingon intimidation tactics and threats, Gowron instantly reads the situation and comes up with a clever mind game to trick the Pakled into doing what he wants.
Shame DS9 ruined him.
I'm surprised he kept a straight face through all that.
Klingon guile...Worf had it too!
@@Thoralmir But he didn't.
Gowron is a politician, not a warrior
I love the way Gowron just looks at the camera, grins cheekily and then turns back to the view screen. Them eyes, so hypnotic.
I get lost in his eyes...
@@HacksignKT Right? Reminds me of those dances in India and perhaps also Japan where the eyes are used a lot.
@@HacksignKT happens all the time
@@Ocyla happens all the time
he just kept talking in one sentence jumping topic to topic it was quite hypnotic....
Gowron's the most charismatic Klingon I've ever seen. His smile is infectious.
Agreed, well said!
I honestly don't care for klingons and find them grossly overrated, however, I simply can not get enough of Gowron.
@@JanetStarChild classic Klingons, from TOS to Undiscovered Country, were great.
I was annoyed with Worf when he did the thing
The biggest criticism of Gowron was that he was a politician, not a Warrior. You'd have to be 11/10 charisma to survive as Chancellor like he did, without someone besides Word gutting him.
Yeah, I modelled my D&D druid after him.
Remembering how Picard and the Enterprise-D had trouble getting through to the Pakleds in their episode, it shows that Gowron not only had previous dealings with these space-morons, but knows damn well which buttons to press with them to get what he wants. Clever.
Exactly. 🤣
"You mean Riker. We never saw Picard trying to deal with the Pakled. In fact, Picard wasn't even onboard at the time; he had left to go get a medical procedure done before all that happened."
-That Guy
@@ChaosFSAh, that was the episode.... I remember Riker haggling with them to hell and back because they got Geordie, but the rest is a bit blurry.
@@ServantOfOdin Yeah, they weren't just freaking out over getting Geordi back for the obvious reasons, but also at the end because Picard's surgery wasn't going well and they specifically needed Dr. Pulaski to go save the day since there was nobody else nearby who could do it for some reason. Our first episode with the Pakled and they weren't even the dumbest part of it.
@@ChaosFS return our engineer or face immediate reprisal!!
I miss that crazy bastard so freaking much
Him and Garak.. their eyes tell so much!
Yeah, I miss this Packlet too!
@@Pazuzu6 Gowron eyes versus Garak ordering Gul Benil eyes. The greatest stare off in the Alpha Quadrant.
It is indeed a shame that he let his personal honor get in front of the good of the Empire.
Go to Star Trek Online right now. The actor's back, and playing a new Klingon. We have Crazy Eyes, again!
Note to self: don’t hire a Pakled to negotiate your divorce.
"You shouldn't have his money."
"How do we know what he has if you don't give it to us to count?"
"OK, we'll give it to you to count."
@@TesseractE As a law student, it horrifies me that there is an actual chance of running into a lawyer this stupid.
A tiny chance, but fools like me run on hope.
When I watch this again, I’m just bemused at how they cranked the “stupid” knob on this Pakled to 11.
“I won’t board your ship and I won’t explain why.”
“But I don’t understand: can you board out ship and explain?”
“Okay, I’ll board your ship to explain to you why I won’t board your ship.”
too late for me
Don't hire a Pakled to negotiate anything. Better yet, just don't hire Pakleds.
The Eye of Sauron is nothing when compared to the eyes of Gowron.
The best thing is this rhymes
Holy cow there were like 20 replies to this where did they all go? There's only 1 reply showing suddenly.
Internet winner.
Unfortunately The eye of Sauron is unblinking, Gowron will have to blink eventually.
"The Eyes of Gowron" sounds like a D&D item. Gives +5 to yelling and boldness and grants you the Stare of Gowron ability.
Gowron’s side eye at 1:17 is him saying to the audience, “watch a genius at work, guys.”
Lol, and 0:36 "shut your face" in klingon 🤣🤣🤣
This broke the fourth wall so much I now have one less room in my house, but the living room has got bigger so I guess thanks Gowron.
Glory to you and your House!
@@TesseractE I see what you did there.
@@TesseractE He accepted the broken wall with honour, the Klingons shall sing of this day.
@@TesseractE Brilliant answer!
The mighty Gowron can break anything!!!
I will always appreciate how Gowron admired Quarks courage against Degor. Even though Quark knew he didn’t stand a chance, he was willing to die to deny Degor the honor of killing him in battle. Knowing his death would have proved Degor’s true colors. So I was glad Gowron stepped in and stopped it.”A courageous Farengi who would have thought” One of the best episodes with a Farengi in it.
It is spelled Ferengi. I thought you should know. No need to thank me, I'm just glad to help.
House of Quark is my all time favorite Klingon episode. I just love watching Quark take the stuffing out of them.
Gowron may not be a klingon we are used to see on screen: he is much more hesitant than any klingon we saw on screen and is prone to schemes and machinations but he is most deffinately not a fool.
I couldn't agree more. To add to it, I always loved how general Martok respected the fuck out of Nog for standing his ground as a cadet and telling him and his men off for loitering on the promenade. "Are you brave or just stupid?" "A little bit of both!" Gets me everytime haha
@@KarakTo aids
I've never ever seen a Klingon having so much fun as this episode.
I'd say one of the other good moments of Klingons just having a good time was way back during the episode of TNG where Riker served on the Pagh.
But it's almost the ENTIRETY of this game. XD One of my other favorites was this not entirely subtle reference to Worf's Mom: ruclips.net/video/4vekUH0O04Y/видео.html
Where is this taken from?
What is the point of a blood oath if you do not have fun while you attain vengence.
Episode of what?
from a game actually iirc
So I actually met Gowron....like full on in character met him. We were on a Star Trek Cruise for my mothers birthday. I didn't know they had a "Klingon Pub Crawl" with Robert O'Reilly reprising Gowron leading it! So I went to the bar to get a couple drinks, I saw a lot of people cosplaying Klingons but didn't think anything of it because that was one of the things that you could do, pay to get made up in complete costume. So I order my drinks and turn around and there is Gowron, full regalia staring into my soul with those beedy a$$ eyes!! I was hella geeked out at that point, so I just held out a drink and shouted the only klingon work I could think of...'KAPLAH" He hit me with that same smile, took the drink and we downed them together...next thing I know I'm doing the pub crawl with Gowron and I didnt even pay for it...lmao (0.o)
That's amazing! XD If you haven't already, check out the full playthrough linked in the description. There are some great bar scenes that might feel familiar!
Apparently, Gowron is an expert diplomat.
We saw that on a number of occasions in the Series, but here, he brought his diplomacy disruptor to a d'ktahg fight.
You don't become Chancellor without knowing how to make friends and allies.
Picard and others notice that Gowron is more of a politician than a soldier
He was also noted as being incredibly tenacious which did made him dangerious in combat too.
To be fair he wasn't bad at stratergy either, it was just his seeing Martok as a threat to his rule that caused the poor strategic decisions at his end, and that was deliberate to disgrace Martok & not bad stratergy on his part.
His only mistake was forgetting Worf existed & he didn't give a shit about his own future in the empire. He was the one Klingon who really could get away with murdering him.
@@HereticDuo Not to mention smart in combat. As for military strategy, Gowron could likely propose general ideas like "We must strike in this area of the enemy's territory" and leave the details to the generals like Martok and let them figure out precisely how to carry out his orders.
As for discrediting Martok, it wasn't needed. If Gowron was worried that Martok sought to take his place as Chancellor, he could've kept him on a short leash and have his agents keep a close eye on him.
1:15 did he just break the fourth wall?
+Damien Green Sorta. The whole game is designed to be like you're playing a role in a holodeck program, so characters routinely address the camera.
Sometimes Gowron can get so pissed if you screw up he starts throttling the camera.
The mighty Gowron can break anything!
Looks right at the camera with just one look that says "Now watch this."
+Space Ninja Exactly. I love it when you can virtually HEAR a glance. :D
You can "hear" everything Gowron "says" with those big, buggy, popped-out eyes.
Love that evil smile at 0:38
God you can just tell Robert O'Reily is having an absolute blast playing gowron in this,. And that mel brooks camera stare 1:13 to the audience had me laughing my ass off. This is great. I wish he could have shown this side of gowron in TNG and DS9.
I think the closest we got were the episodes on the Rotarran with Worf and Martok. Not necessarily good Gowron moments, but good KLINGON moments. ^^d
"I will beam over so I can explain why I can't beam over."
it's not hard to win a battle of wits if your opponent has only half :)
This
Gowron would have done very well as a preschool teacher. It's no wonder he ascended to Chancellor of the Empire 😂
Johnathan Frakes directed the game and he said: "A room full of Klingons, there's nothing better"
He and the actors captured it well. The 'party' scene at the beginning of the game was pretty great, too!
@@TesseractE admit it you are like the second klingon who gets his hands on the bowl of gagh ruclips.net/video/R3vF9LXZePE/видео.html
@@TesseractE they all had a lot of fun making the game, the Klingon actors would often go to the food craft services in full costume and makeup and stay in character just for the hell of it, including Robert O'Reilly as Gowron.. with Johnathan Frakes following afterwards and apologizing profusely. 🤣
@@acoote1701 That's amazing. XD It DID look like they were enjoying themselves. 👍
@@toomanyaccounts Ha! No. XD
Just imagine a sitcom starring Gowron and him having to "negotiate" with other species and host dinners for starfleet admirals and captains and deal with Ferengi con artists and stuff
Let's call it 'Big Stick'. :D
I'd watch it.
Love how he'd use different tactics for each.
Well I know he would be willing to step down from conflicts only to come back to kick someone's ass on the return trip. So points for diplomacy
I like the female Klingon in the back "No Pakled knows anything!" Just great delivery
If only Gowron had stayed this way. Worf wouldn't have knifed him.
100% agree.
Joseph A Worf didn’t simply knife him. He willed him to fall on the tips of a broken Bat'leth.
"I will totally have this day, beeyotch."
Yeah, Gowron went off the deep end thanks to the Martok Changeling who made him attack the Cardassians, break off the alliance with the Federation and then go to war with the Federation.
Apparently I remember nothing from Star Trek. I have every episode up through the end of "Enterprise". I may have to binge the saga sometime soon.
The Klingon equivalent of the Picard Speech; Gorown's Eyes.
I was watching an episode of Max Headroom recently and spotted Robert O'Reilly in a few scenes thanks to his eyes. :D
I died laughing when he gave those looks
@@TesseractE when I saw an episode of "In the Heat of the Night", I knew that it was Robert O'Reilly by the eyes, and he sounded like Gowron with a Cajun accent (he was playing a New Orleans mobster). In that episode, Caroll O'connor's character Chief Gillespie knocked him on his ass for beating up his (the Chief's) daughter. O'Reilly said he wouldn't have done that if those cops weren't there. O'Connor said "if they weren't there, I'd have shot you."
Gowron can say more with his eyes then most people can with their mouths. Unfortunately 99% of what he's saying is "I'm gonna turn your skin into a suit".
1:17 - I busted out laughing when Gowron wide-eyed the audience!
"Now that's how to negotiate dumb people."
1:15 more specifically, but yeah, that was awesome! XD
"watch this" 😁
he is addressing "you" as the game is a first person role play
The Gowron eyes! 🤣
The way Gowron looked at the camera wide eyed is hilarious! Robert O'Reilly is a genius!
Frakes directed this game. I think he let Robert O' Riley have free reign with his character.
I love Gowron's satisfied smile at the end. Like he's just had the time of his life winning over the Pakled!
Robert O' Reilly is a legend. The guy playing the Pakled is funny as hell too.
Gowron was one of the funniest characters, and deserved more story arcs to involve him. A very interesting individual, he gave dimension (or, dare I say, humanity) to the Klingon people. He is the essence of bluster, yet he actually survives by being wily.
His wiles didn’t work on Worf in the end.
The problem was that the writers relied too heavily on Worf as the gateway character into Klingon centered episodes. Nothing against Worf, but if you make every Klingon episode about him then it starts to get really samey.
@@JonathanRodd Martok was so much better at being Klingon than Worf was, and I'm glad he took Worf the Wi'a'bU under his wings to show him what it was REALLY all about.
@@TesseractE In Worf's defense, his failure at being a true Klingon was kind of the point of his character. He obsessed over knowing as much about Klingon customs and history (more so than the average Klingon) because he was forced to grow up and live among humans and that knowledge helped him feel closer to his people. But whenever he tries to put that knowledge into practice among other Klingons, he stands out like a sore thumb.
@@JonathanRodd Oh, entirely. I'm just terribly happy they didn't LEAVE it at that and on DS9 he got the chance to learn from Martok.
the fourth wall glance in the thumbnail is what really makes this scene
you are the player
"We look for things. Things that make us go."
Lemme guess... Their rubber band broke...
+Eric Hanson - "You are smart."
"We look for things to make us go."
Gowron, "Then you must try the mighty warriors drink that Commander Worf has introduced to the Klingon Empire...prune juice."
That's what i told the pharmacist when i was looking for the X-Lax
Worf: "Prune Juice"
I remember am interview Robert O'Reilly did where he described Gowron as "nuts". The way he prances across the bridge and yells "On Screeeeen" at the screen for no apparent reason is hilarious.
I'm pretty sure that scenery chewing is taught in Klingon schools. XD
I just love the way he says why? Soft, soothing, almost like talking to a child, which of course he thinks they are: big space babies.
This just makes me want a reality tv show set on a Klingon bridge.
Totally. I really enjoyed 'A Matter of Honor' and those scenes on the Rotarran on DS9.
The look in Gorwon's eyes tell it all,
"I got him right where I want him. As the old human expression goes, There's A Sucker Born Every Minute"
To be fair, Gowron's crazy eyes could tell volumes. Which would drive you crazy.
It must be easy for Gowron to install his contact lenses in the morning.
I'd worry about the other way... They probably fall out every time he tries to make a point!
Lol I love how in the beginning, he just yells 'ON SCREEN' loud for no reason.
Because Gowron is an expert at chewing scenery. XD
Because he is Klingon.
I read it as him being mildly annoyed at his subordinates' lack of initiative.
@@Kromaatikse either that or Klingon society is like a predatory pack, the leader must constantly remind the others of his authority even if it’s to show aggression ritualistically.
I don't think universal communicators work on tone of voice.
@1:10 "It is difficult to understand..." :D Hahahaha!
A pakled speaking with a southern drawl and Gowron's insane smile while nodding like a school yard bully, it's hilarious! xD
For anyone who thinks the Pakled Captain looks familiar; that's Skully (Joel McKinnon Miller) from Brooklyn Nine-Nine.
Thank you ,feel similar but can't pin finger it
I thought he looked more like Trump to be honest.
i think you're wrong. a few decades ago scully was a super jacked stud. i saw it on 99
@@namekman01 It's him, even has an IMDB credit for it in 1996.
I was just scrolling through the comments to see if anyone else noticed. Scully is the perfect Pakled.
I love how they got his actor from the shows to reprise his role for the game :D
"You have to come on board to explin why you are afraid to come on board"
impeccable logic
When you play a high intelligence/charisma playthough
How the hell did pakleds make it into space lol
somebody uplifted them. shows the prime directive isn't completely stupid
The Ferengi gave them warp technology
@@zxGHOSTr how much other technology did the ferengi have to give them before they could get to warp drive? I'd be surprised if they developed writing on their own lol
@@Vontux Rule 208 of acquisition:Sometimes the only thing more dangerous than a question is an answer.
They collect things. Things that make them go.
He sounded so casual at the end when saying "View screen off.", it's like he wasn't even acting anymore. He IS Gowron.
Gowron for president 😊. I love the dramatic pause as he gives us the patented Gowron eye roll 😊
The part where Gowron looks at the camera is just amazing. One of my favorite characters.
Gworon should have had his own episodes.
Yeah.... At least we have this! It's overall longer than a normal TNG episode, too. ^^d
Lifetime Television presents: "Growing Up Klingon" with Gowron!
@@47Str8 That would be the Rozhenkos trying to raise Worf, and then Alexander.
I like to imagine the Lower Deck writers saw this video and shouted "THAT'S OUR VILLAIN!"
I thought who ever made them villains, probably was a warhammer 40k fans sense they turn them into Orks. They both have warships scraped together from mutiple species ships.
The buttons are shaped like the Klingon logo, to remind everyone that they’re on a Klingon ship
My god I'd forgotten Robert O'Reilly's genius playing Gowron. The look at the camera at 1:15 was perfect. Sums up everything that was great about him and that character.
Just awesome. :D This was another favorite moment in the game: ruclips.net/video/ONXpyc7sqKA/видео.html
Damn, he handled the situation so well, for a Klingon. I don't think even Martok would've been so diplomatic.
Gowron was generally on the clever side of things... Until he started getting power-jealous of Martok...
Martok would've had trouble keeping a straight face and he would've reacted much worse, probably laughing at him.
Gowron did a great job keeping a straight face dealing with the Pak'led.
Despite being Klingon, Gawron was definitely more of a peace-time leader. He excelled in diplomacy. Martok was a war-time leader. Tactics and strategy were his bread and butter.
@@lycanmotionsYou made me remember that episode of Lower Decks in which a Klingon rogue Captain is selling weapons to the Pakleds and he keeps facepalming due to their ideas.
Love the look he gives the camera when he broke the forth wall... Like "Watch this guys..." 😆😆😆
One of the keys to negotiation is to put your ego aside! A lot of people will be forever frustrated because they will not do this. "In business as in life you don't get what's fair, you get what you negotiate".
They really should have made a Spin off about Gowron
Leonidas Feuer: I think this was actually good enough. It was about an hour of completely fresh Trek with Gowron in most of it. If you haven't watched DS9 yet, do so... You'll get more Gowron, but you'll like Martok more. ;)
Eric Hanson which Episode?
Leonidas Feuer: It wasn't an episode, it was an FMV game (Star Trek: Klingon). You can find the full video on RUclips if you don't want to hunt down the game itself. ^^d
No what they should have done was make the Klingon tv show based around Worf's character like Michael Dorn wanted and had Gowron as a recurring character. And the sister show could have been Riker as the captain of the Titan. That's what should have happened!!!
Christmas Special with Gowron!
SILENT NIGHT! HOLY NIGHT! TODAY IS A GOOD DAY TO DIE!
You can tell O'Reilly was having fun the day he filmed this. ;)
I like how Gowron verbally treated him like an complete idiot.
In 0:16. You can hear Gowron trying not to instantly burst out laughing in the background and before dealing with him in 0:28.
He must've had so much fun doing the scenes for this game :D
He did get to sate his hunger with all the sets, after all...
He did look like he was having fun, yeah. :D I think a healthy taste for scenery is required for Klingon actors. 👍
That random shouting of ONSCREEN was certainly a Ham chewing his set impressively.
Please note I am not calling O'Reilly a Ham in general, he's a great actor in general he was just enjoying the chance here.
That was the most aggressive ordering of "On screen" by a starship captain I have ever heard.
Bridge crew member: "We're being hailed"
Gowron: (Growling very loudly) "OOON SCREEEEEEN!!!!!"
As if he had been ordering 'on screen' several times and got no response. 🤣
HAHAHAHA A Klingon breaking the fourth wall. That's freaking AWSOME!
I love how this game made Gowron look more diplomatically savvy than half the TV show Starfleet captains 😂
OMG I love Gowron this way. Now this is a dangerous Klingon!
Gowron has got to be one of my favorite enduring characters just for his complexities. He's a trickster, he's a warrior, he's honorable, he's ambitious and none of it feels contradictory, and it ended fittingly for him when his pride and overconfidence became his undoing. It was all just a natural progression of him emphasizing different notes.
Y'all know there was roast Pakled in the chow hall that night. FRESH roast Pakled.
Naw, they were worth more alive at that moment. You get chewed out for getting them killed. :D
1:32 i love how she's trying to keep a straight face while gowron is out smarting the the pakled or to quote another comment here "out stupid a pakled"
They should have done an episode where someone goes to the Pakled homeworld and discovers it is populated by incredibly intelligent and quick-witted folks, because all the "slow" Pakled are used to crew ships.
Reminds me of Ringworld, where Louis Wu discovers not just the Puppeteer diplomat he's dealing with is insane, but _all_ their space crews and diplomats are. They only send them because you'd have ti be crazy to go to space. 😂
Lower Decks did it and yeah, they're absolute morons in that and it's canon so no hyper intelligent Pakled planet.
Puppeteers are a LOT more individually clever, though.
What I got from the LD Pakled storyline is that they're greedy, unmotivated, and lazy, but not quite absolute morons. Their plan to frame Freeman would have worked. In fact, I'd say that they went to a *great deal* of effort to cheat the federation out of resources, ultimately to avoid doing any of the hard work of maintaining a society themselves.@@TheClintonio
@@TheClintonio I LOVE how their ruling structure revolves around having the bigger helmet. 😂
I quote this entire exchange to myself when im at work. This clip ive known for a single week has taken over my life
This was 100% the kindest exchange anyone has ever had with a Pakled on screen. Gowron pointed out that preconceptions were not true, And simply insisted on a dialouge about what each side was thinking.
As someone who sometimes has trouble keeping up with conversations, This was extremely heartwarming to watch. That it came from Gowron and not Picard is strangely appropriate.
It seemed more condescending than kind to me, but he was still showing how different people need different verbal tactics to get through. Something not in this clip is that the Pakled ship is damaged and if they go to warp, their core would explode. Gowron needs information and doesn't want to spook the Pakled into fleeing and blowing themselves up (which can happen if you accidentally cloak when you try to beam the Pakled over.)
@@TesseractE Condescension coming from the assumption that they weren't friendly is a strangely peaceful way to open negotiations with someone who doesn't want to really cause problems. Gowron deserved better than to die in DS9.
At 0:36, is that Klingon for Shut the F*#$ Up? lol
Basically yes. It's more along the lines of "Mind your tongue", but yea.
Loved how Robert O'Reilly mugged for the camera breaking the 4th wall 🤣
I’ve said for a long time they should have given Gowron his own show. Always a treat watching this guy.
Well, at least we got a 'Pilot' for what that show would have been like. :D
It's the mark of a talented Klingon when they can realize that actual or implied force is not the best tool to use in a given situation.
Absolutely! "He will triumph who knows when to fight and when not to fight." I bet LOTS of Klingons were all "Hey, K'mpec, have you seen this human text called 'The Art of War'?"
Lol. Gowron is TOO much. What an awesome character.
Paraphrased from The Good Chancellor:
"I will not give this clip a "thumbs-down" (or bend my knee to a test-tube Kahless) so long as I can still draw breath...or pick-up a blaaaaade (or type on the keyboard)."
One of the best pieces of Trek media outside of the main series.
Absolutely!
This is why I love Gowron 👍. I can just see the cast in the background trying to keep back the Giggles :-)
The pure comedy of that look to camera is too great for words.
"Star Trek: Klingon" was an awesome game. That and "Klingon Honor Guard" were fantastic for any fan of the Klingon culture.
Gowron's voice even broke the character wall at the end
In-game, you're taking part in a Klingon Cultural Immersion holodeck program. They address the camera CONSTANTLY, but I rather like the 'personal' feel.
Gowron was a fantastic character, so well played on the screen those eyes just pop.
This clip is a testament to Gowron's skilled leadership.
BORG: We are the borg...
PAKLED: We are pakled...
BORG: ... nevermind...
We DO know the Borg have SOME standards. They decided the Kazon weren't worth assimilating. XD
Borg: "....assimilation rejected. It has been calculated assimilating you would make us more stupid"
Gowron really is good dealing with various peoples..
I liked when he looked at us, breaking the fourth wall.
The various clips I have seen from the game gave me a new respect for Gowron
No matter how many times I see this, it never gets old.
Now, if only I could remember which episode it was from...
There's a hint in the video description. ;)
I noticed the forth wal break looking into the camera, love it.
Actually, if I recall correctly, the game is _intended_ to be seen from the perspective of the player character so he actually nodded at you, the player.
Yup. It's set up as a holodeck simulation to learn about Klingon culture. You can watch the whole thing via the link in the description!
@@TesseractE there was even a novelization that detailed why Gowron participated in the holodeck program creation
Now that’s funny. I want more of this. A full 2 hour movie of this would make millions.
There's at least about 45 minutes worth! Check the link in the description!
That 4th wall break, is GOLD.
Okay I came across this randomly, I wasn't disappointed in the least. I needed that good laugh.
Always gives me a chuckle. :D
I like the way Gowron "looks" at the camera when he is "negotiating" with the Pakled. ~ 1:14
Didn't read the description, thought this was just a clip from a barely remembered episode of DS9 or something, then Gowron literally turned and looked at me. I pooped a little...
I love it when Gowron breaks the fourth wall and smiles at the camera. "I've got you now."
Gowron looking at the camera like "Now pay attention. You shall see how genius creates a legend."
"We are being hailed."
"Unsurprising. What _is_ surprising is that you had to walk way over here to tell me this instead of just announcing it from your station. Why did you do this? Do you lack confidence in your abilities of projection?"
While we're on Star Trek Pet Peeves...
"Crew to Captain."
"Yeah?"
"You'd better come down here."
"Wh.... Why can't you just TELL me? Maybe even tell me while I'm on the way if I REALLY need to be down there?"
Lazy Perfectionist , I noticed that too. She should have said: "No, it's that I have a small part and I'm trying to milk it for everything it's worth. I was in the makeup chair for THREE HOURS!!"
This video reminded me there was a VHS board game called "A Klingon Challenge." The same actor, just played a different Klingon.
1:16 When Gowron looked at the camera, I laughed so hard. Robert O'Reily was so good with this character.....
That smile at the camera was friggin awesome. Menace and frustration all in one look.