Husserl, Heidegger & Existentialism - Hubert Dreyfus & Bryan Magee (1987)
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2023
- In this program, Hubert Dreyfus and Bryan Magee discuss the thinkers Husserl and Heidegger, as well as the movements of phenomenology and existentialism. This comes from a 1987 series on the Great Philosophers. Edmund Husserl was a 20th-century German philosopher, best known for founding phenomenology, a philosophical movement and methodology of examining the underlying structure of experience. Martin Heidegger was also a 20th-century German philosopher, best known for his contributions to phenomenology and existentialism. Existentialists take human existence and the human condition to be a fundamental issue. They tend to be radical individualists who privilege our lived experience and choice. They focus on themes such as: freedom, authenticity, the individual, meaning, anxiety, alienation, death, dread, the absurd, contingency, and nihilism. They are often also suspicious of any fixed, pre-determined human nature, objective/universal values, and abstract philosophical systems. Some of the most important existentialist thinkers (or at least thinkers associated with existentialism) include Jean-Paul Sartre, Martin Heidegger, Søren Kierkegaard, Friedrich Nietzsche, Dostoyevsky, Albert Camus, Karl Jaspers, and Simone de Beauvoir. (My Description)
The full series: • The Great Philosophers...
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This is a reupload. I wanted a version with higher audio quality. I’ll still leave the previous video up as unlisted, so as to not break any external links with it. Sorry about any inconvenience!
Great conversation indeed! What a clear and passionate academic teacher Prof. Dreyfus was!
Genius is making the complex simple and he achieved that
What I am amazed is not the philosophy that they are talking about, but how well they understand the subject and how well they explain it in this talks. Amazing.
Apropos Dasein, there's a significant difference between understanding it as Being-there and as Being-the-there. Brilliant!
Always wonderful to listen and learn from Dreyfus.
Magee’s rizz is off the charts
And he knows it.
this comment makes me unable to study the conversation properly 💀
He’s so disgusting
Rizz?
Never knew Chuck Norris was a philosophy expert.
A philosophy expert, yes.
Chuck Norris would knock you out for such a preposterous statement.
That's the best comment so far. Add a funny orange hair color, clearly not natural...
On Sartre's interpretation of Heidegger:
"...but he felt he had to fix up Heidegger ... as a Frenchman" 😂
Thanks so much for uploading this beautiful series. Just fantastic stuff.
absolutely fabulous, I agree.
@@soran27 Absolutely FABULOUS, dahling.
I'm at 32 minutes and this is absolutely fantastic.
I'm at 27 min and it's fantabulous!
Agree. It's so refreshing to go back in time a few decades and watch a video that is substantial and clear without having to waste 3 minutes with an annoying visual introduction + logo and 10 minutes talking about what philosophy is, all with the purpose of making the viewer feel smart without really saying anything, i.e. 90% of You Tube videos with purported academic content today.
this was an extremely helpful video
The shade at Sartre was brutal. Although, I agree that Merleau Ponty is much more impressive.
great channel!
Didn’t expect them to just start roasting Sartre out of nowhere lol
omg that was insane I loved it
great !
What philosophers are trying to understand or explain is better understood as what physicists are trying but are unable to gasp and hang themselves between uncertainty and certainty, so philosophers find themselves hanging in between what seems unimportant and trifle and is the essence of root of the phenomenology. Much like physics and metaphysics, if we get the first we fail to get to the second.
40:48 - It is a bit strange to think that copies of Being and Nothingness seem to outsell No Exit and Nausea (all of which probably outsell Being and Time by a healthy margin). It's hard to not feel like Being and Nothingness' phenomenology misses the mark when compared to the rest of the phenomenological tradition.
Wow I was born when this was filmed roughly. Existential anxiety is funny. Like... oh no what happens if I don't exist. No I can't imagine that. 😂
I believe anxiety is meant as a state of being. We would recognize any bad mood (negative emotion if you want to refer to affective neuroscience) worried, angry, depressed. But a lot of these emotions require intellectual consideration which is an action and that itself that results in new moods.
There is a 2 hour interview with Dreyfus more recent in 2000s ...you had it before but can't find it ...if copyright issue keen to know source as it's very important interview
ruclips.net/video/iAxu6pg7JU0/видео.html
What is ' meditation ' in the light of these reflections?
Yesterday I watched Magee interviewing Anthony Quinton about Spinoza and Leibniz and thoroughly enjoyed Quinton’s eloquence, quick wit, and elegant use of language. I came here hoping for more intellectual stimulation and failed to find it. Dreyfus expresses himself in a plodding, clumsy, and trite manner and is not even always grammatical. He never manages to make his case bracing. I’ve haven’t read Heidegger and am not particularly likely to in future so I can’t judge whether this is an accurate summary of his philosophy, but that’s not really my concern. (I HAVE Sartre, by the way, and consider him unfairly maligned here.)
That should be “I have READ Sartre”. Sorry. This IPad won’t let me edit.
Why has Sartre been unfairly maligned ?
At @6:15, what is the German phrase Hubert Dreyfus uses in describing Bryan Magee's comment about imagining distant galaxies? I'm hearing "wunder-bar phenomenon". What is that?
Wundabar = wonderful🤓Also phenomenon is just phenomenon in english. Though I'm not sure it is part of your question😶😅
Hey, do you by any chance do upload the audios of the videos on any podcast apps?
That would be neat! Cause I can listen and think better about it while going for a walk. 😄
RUclips revanced. Google it. Thank me later ;)
I wonder if they had read Sartre’s Imagination. I think it gives a more favorable account of his straddling of phenomenology and existentialism than nausea or being and nothingness.
40:20 Heidegger did more than try to read Sartre's muck. Posthumously his copy of Being and Nothingness was found filled with marginalia throughout.
Blue shirt sounds like pooh bear. Such a nice voice
We need a bigger boat.
I don't think I'm high enough for this
Temet nosce
Lol
It’s like philosophy discovered art and literature
Ok. What is the "existential" part? When someone says, "existential crisis" I always wonder what that means. What's the difference between a "crisis" and a "existential crisis"? Is what is meant by "existential" is psychological or a condition based on presumed threat, or state of anxiety caused by intellectual "fact" as opposed to a real physical situation, then that definition of "existential" is not defined in any dictionary I know. When I hear someone flaunt the term "existential", I always get the impression they're just being pretentious.
Thought can't touch the phenomena of consciousness for it is mere words, mere representation, but perception itself touches all phenomena, including all the phenomena of consciousness. Heidegger was a failed Western attempt to think about the phenomena of conscious experience, but in the East they have been observing the phenomena through meditation for thousands of years and their insights are light years beyond anything that's ever come out of the Western intellectual tradition except perhaps Hegel and in other respects, Adorno.
What are the eastern insights that are light years ahead of western intellectual tradition ?
These are a couple of funny fellows :D
Consciousness other wise refered to as reality...
Oh! Ha ha! I never knew Being and Nothingness was a play on Being and Time! lol!
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The presenter is simply a picture of visual hilarity. They don't make them like that anymore.
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Dreyfus gets it wrong. Husserl's greatest work is found in the manuscripts. That was his self-assessment.
40:26 - this man has actually met Heidegger (not sure I really believe him). Did they discuss his antisemitism?
Magee opts not to raise the point of Heidegger's antisemitism and involvement with the Nazi party.
I wonder if he likes Sartre's famous line 'I do not think, therefore I am a moustache.' (Since he himself has a very impressive one). Hitler's was smaller.
"Did they discuss his antisemitism?"
Of course not. What would you have had Dreyfus do? Lecture Heidegger?
"Magee opts not to raise the point of Heidegger's antisemitism and involvement with the Nazi party. "
Just as he opted not to raise the subject of Sartre's Maoism or Khmer Rouge apologia.
If we're not allowed to discuss Heidegger's philosophy without such a descent into the journalistic, neither should we be permitted to discuss the cross-eyed Frenchman's work without doing so.
@@alexhauser5043 A brief mention of it is sensible in both cases. It raises a difficult question for existentialism: can you accept that people might dedicate themselves to horrific causes? When they truly abandon gods, the principle of utility, the golden mean, the categorical imperative, or whatever supposedly objective source of purpose, what do people really choose for their meaning in life?
It's like bringing up Hobbes's context in the English Civil War/Restoration period, Kant's context in the Newtonian supremacy, Descartes' context in the post-Reformation etc. These help people to both see why the philosophers' ideas are significant and provide a starting point for criticising or appreciating their ideas regarding some real-world problems.
@@Myndir Yes, you have a point. Heidegger's, "resolute projection" can't be taken as a sensible moral standard by itself. Heidegger and Sartre were both morally bankrupt, and this does suggest that there's something profoundly wrong with their reasoning.
Just the same, we have a moral and intellectual duty to be consistent. If we must discuss Heidegger's treatment of his colleagues and his National Socialism, then we must discuss Sartre's Maoism and his Pol Pot apologia. I object primarily to Marxist-adjacent intellectuals getting a 'pass' for defending such scum.
Not to mention that Heidegger was a fascist even once???!
It doesn't matter. Humanity takes many forms.
@@Mikey42287 wow, that's some view of humanity
Heidegger being anti semitic has very little to do with what they’re discussing here. Also it’s a very well known fact. Imagine if brands were required to reveal how psychopathic their CEOs are. Imagine if each Kanye album after 2020 included a disclaimer in the sleeve. Have you thought why you even need that truth to be revealed? Like what is it’s utility to you?
@excitingworld364 Clichéd and biased judgments are subjective and thus irrelevant in the face of an objective sociological analysis.
If you have a conversation lasting 45 minutes about Heidegger and three other philosophers and you choose to talk about Heideggers stand in the nazi period…we would have had a whole other conversation and we would have missed the brilliant and important conversation we are hearing now.
In 1966 Heidegger gave an interview in Der Spiegel about his stance in the nazi period. So if you’re interested…
Total nonsense pseudo intellectual babble @25m
Wow
People actually listen to this and think it's profound?
Sophistry
Thanks for enlightening us, Plato.
You see a lot of this lately since Trump freed the idiots from their chains of objective reality. Throw some pejorative labels at things you don't like and pretend you're intellectually deconstructing it, without deconstructing it with argument. Why is it "pseudo intellectual babble". Why is it not "profound". I'd classify a philosophy professor from a top US university, with acclaimed published work to his name, about as real an intellectual as you can get.