What Muslims Say to Convert Christians w/ Charbel Raish
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
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Charbel shares part of his conversion story, how Muslim friends and leaders led him to question and investigate his Catholic faith.
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The fist time meeting Muslims and having a conversation with them I was told, "God cannot have a son". I knew nothing about Islam at the time but I knew God could do anything. Nothing is impossible with God. So, incredulously I asked, "You think there are things God cannot do?" They got nowhere with me. I walked away, faith intact. Praise to our loving God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
Remarks like this show that you have little appreciation for the Monotheism of Moses and Abraham in distinction to the polytheism of the pagans. And I mean that you take it trivially.
Your logic is reductionist and leads to a long series of pagan-affirming presuppositions, such as God having a wife (Asherah, for the heretics among the Israelites), the existence of other gods and other absurdities.
God can do everything, whatever that is supposed to mean to you, but everything isn't God, only God is God. If you can stretch your logic to make anything fit God then divine Revelation and continuity of doctrine are not concerns to you.
Gnostics had similar logic to you, made God a minor deity (called the Demiurge) in a long chain of deities (eons) and even gave God a higher mother (Sophia).
@@oceanmachine1906 The best thing I can say is that you misunderstand my faith.
@@perseverantiafinalis2069 I understand that you have a theological agenda here and feel necessary to preach your belief but Islam itself is strictly not what my comment is about.
I'm sure you saw my avatar and started frothing at the mouth.
Please respond to the points I addressed or simply be a better representation of Christianity and don't respond at all (therefore not embarrassing yourself like in your comment above).
There absolutely things God cannot do. Saint Thomas Aquinas argued that things CAN fall outside of God's omnipotency. For example God can not create another God. The real question here is: is God, begetting an Eternal Word and First-Born Son outside of time, within His scope of omni potency?
@@aahlstrom93I can't disagree with the genius of St. Thomas Aquinas. As to the rest of your statement, I'll have to give it some thought.
My journey back to the Catholic faith was during my deployment to Iraq in 2005. Watching the Muslim people who worked on the military base pray, right in the street, caused an inner voice to ask me “Where is your faith?”….and that was the beginning of my journey back to the faith. Thank You God.
Did you happen to belong to the Rosary Group that met on Tuesday nights at the Balad West Chapel? I was there then.
You should look up Saint Charles de Foucauld. He had the same experience only it was over a century ago in the French army in Algeria. Look him up and let me know.
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Just imagine if there were large groups of people saying grace in a public restaurant! I see that as a calling indeed. Praise be to God! Amen.
@@kevinryan8389 HI! No, I didn't. I actually only went to Mass once during Easter while I was there. My life was a mess then and I didn't feel worthy to even go to Mass. But I spoke to a chaplain from a different denomination and something just didn't feel right. He said he could hear my confession but something was off. So I went to Mass just that once. I was also in Balad! Thank you brother for praying the Rosary with every one. Those prayers reached this lost soul.
The practicing Muslim teacher/soccer coach at my Catholic school was SUPER strict about us praying an Our Father before his class (he wouldn't pray it, but he'd make sure we did), us behaving during mass (glare of death if you talked, or heaven forbid, get out your phone), and his soccer team would pretty much pray shout the prayer before meals in public restaurants. He didn't practice the Catholic faith, wouldn't even wear the school logo because it in olved a cross, but he had a rosary on his desk and more respect for the faith than many of the Catholic teachers.
Lol Catholic teachers are required to show Baptismal Certificate to be accepted. You must prove you are Catholic. At least in Canada.
No, he was not respecting your faith by not wearing the logo because of the cross.
A lot of Muslims used to question me because I used to run a Catholic Instagram page and they'd find me, but I thankfully had studied Islam quite a bit a knew how to argue against it. They'd often call me racist for not "reverting" because it's obviously racist to not believe in Islam (🙄), but I didn't let it bother me.
Well, at least we know where Leftists get their argumentation from.
I love using David Wood’s work and Robert Spencer’s The Critical Quran.
@@batmaninc2793 Yes! David Wood and Robert Spencer! I'm a member of the Acts17 Community, thanks to being sponsored because I didn't have the money to pay for a membership on my own. I've been watching Dr. Wood's videos for years.
@Jared Powell I have no idea. It's actually all Arab Muslims who actually live in the Middle East who have pulled the "racism" card on me, though, so it's not the White American Liberals doing it in my case.
Racist because you are reverting! Reverting to what? To a religion which came 600 years AFTER Christ? Racist? What does racism have to do with it? Now I know why the Left (anti God) can get along with islam. Nothing logical .
What I love about my Catholic faith is it engages you on so many levels. The aesthetic, intellectual, tactical and spiritual. When you take the time to study it and make a spiritual connection with it, it can be the most beautiful, deep, healing and life changing experience. It can’t be reduced to a simple phrase. It takes time and patience but it’s worth it.
Sure Muslims fast from sunrise till sundown. But I knew Muslims in the gulf, who would wake up early in the morning to eat before their fast started and after sundown there would be a feast with all kinds of food everyday!!!!
Its not too difficult to fast in between ....especially in the medical field . It gets so busy that you forget to even take a sip of water for a long period of time.
Lenten abstinence is way more difficult and productive for the soul. Especially if it is an abstinence from foods and pleasures you enjoy.
@Fabiola please look up non muslims trying ramadan for the first time on youtube before claiming it’s “easy”. it’s not. and we fast for 30 days in a row from sunset to sundown without even water in extremely hot countries while working.
@Fabiola fasting is compulsory for us though. why you criticising people that actually follow their religion? sounds like jealousy
@Fabiola may allah guide you ✌️
You should invite Mario Joseph from Kerala, India to your show. He was a former Muslim Imam and now a lay Catholic preacher.
True! That guy was an imam before converting to Christianity!!
He's excellent
Agreed, his testimony is on of the best I've ever heard
Haha What a joke. Small muslim children Can see that he was not a muslim who knew about islam. Season On RUclips “his name + exposed” ❤
I'm Catholic from Indonesia, the largest Muslim country, and I can say that the Iman had asked the standard question on Christianity.. these questions are so often broadcasted on national TV. Surprisingly enough, people rarely convert to Muslim due to this questions (most my friends convert to Muslim, because they married a Muslim). People in my circle are more interested in "all religions are the same. God is in all religions". Which I think different challenges altogether.
setuju brother. Sometimes we have too much indifferentism in our country.
bedanya filosofi barat dan timur, ideologi agama rata2 di indo sudah terpengaruh idologi timur, yg percaya sifat universal. kalau di barat masih perkara " hitam dan putih"
@@user-lr6hw4dq4t Salah Bro. Yesus tidak pernah bilang bahwa surga adalah hak semua orang. Dia juga tidak pernah bilang bahwa surga adalah hak orang baik. Masuk surga bagi manusia adalah mustahil, kecuali bagi mereka yang menerima berkat ("grace") Yesus karena Yesus bilang "I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" Yohanes 14:6...
@@danielwidyanto5142 itu sola fide mas. Ada pernyataan : Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus (EENS), yaitu, Tidak ada keselamatan di luar Gereja Katolik. Itu muncul dari katekis resmi, dan dipahaminya gini : ada keselamatan bagi orang yg gak dibaptis, dengan catatan ada keinginan untuk mempercayai Kristus. Ada istilah "invincible ignorance", dimana orang gak beriman karena emang gak tau, tapi keselamatan bisa didapatkan sekalipun orang hanya memiliki hubungan mistik thd Kristus. Maka dari itu ada istilahnya "pewartaan khabar baik", yg tujuannya bukan membuat org mualaf, tp membuat org merasakan adanya "tubuh mistik kristus" melalui nilai2 kekristenan yg disebarkan oleh umatnya. Ujung2 nya Surga neraka itu legitimasi Tuhan.
@@danielwidyanto5142 yg dikatakan x 1 bener bro, ada emang EENS but what about the other who never listen, who never knew about Jesus, who get the wrong info about Jesus, kaya di Indonesia, you know lah disinformation karena islam, lalu when they died, apakah Allah lantas menghukum mereka ke neraka tanpa ada pertimbangan sementara jika mereka tau tentang Yesus, mungkin saja mereka convert. Apakah Allah menutup mata terhadap mereka yg belum tau soal kabar gembira tsb?
I'm not apologist, but I know Jesus the Christ and the Blessed Virgin. And I am positive I would not ever affirm Mohammed. Lord, I wish to be a martyr for love of you.
Many Muslims actually put on weight during Ramadan because they gorge themselves after sundown.
Yeah. Also the price of foodstuff skyrocket every time near ramadhan. They also consume huge amount of sugar during that period.
@@melissalisaandrean6803 exactly. It's not a true fact. They didnt give up anything, just changed the hours of consumption of food etc
@@c.Ichthys if anything, one could easily argue that they achieve the opposite of what fasting entails and that they become far more gluttonous, slothful and greedy than what they would otherwise be without their Ramadan "fast."
@@csongorarpad4670 yes well said. I have read comments that have said during Ramadan they actually gained weight!!
Lets not judge. We dont know what every muslim does, after sundown. Let God decide wether their fast is proper or not.
It is interesting that in the Old Testament, God is referred as Father 17 times, and in Jesus first Sermon (on the mount) Jesus refers to God as Father 17 times in that one Sermon. Certainly part of that revelation of God. I would like to ask that Iman if maybe it is the other way around; Namely fatherhood is a divine thing and we earthly fathers at best are reflections of Our Heavenly Father.
To be fair, in the genealogy of Jesus, Adam, the first in the series was also called Son of God.
@@jamesestrella5911 The genealogy of Jesus starts with Abraham to David, and then David to Jesus in The Gospel of Mathew. Do what scripture are you referring to?
@@FromAcrossTheDesert Luke 3:23-38
@@jamesestrella5911 Thanks.
@THT Amen Brother (or Sister?). God bless you. you made my day. Even on the internet it is a blessing to encounter the mystical body of Christ, the Church. May we all stay close and hold on to each other as the Holy Spirit binds us to the Father, through Jesus Christ, our Lord.
This is why biblical awareness and apologetics is important
“Islam seems like a much more masculine religion”, says Matt. “Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth.” Says Jesus. St. Catherine of Sienna had no trouble fasting, and neither did countless other Saints. We are called to repentance and conversion. Conversion brings grace, grace brings true strength.
Hi, Monk.
Thanks for your comment. It is especially valuable as it recalls important and fundamental considerations. I think, however, that it is out of place to object to the obvious appeal of an obviously and unabashedly masculine religion. Indeed, one of the factors driving significant conversion from Christianity to Islam of late in historically Christian societies is the ready contrast between assertive and purposeful Muslim apologists and feminized emasculated purposeless representatives of Christianity. Indeed, before Muslim apologists began their ready harvest, Christians on their own initiative were abandoning the churches as presenting nothing worthy of their respect.
@@gregorybarrett4998 that was precisely my point. Christianity appeals to those who have eyes to see and ears to hear. The Church is always being purged of those who can be drawn away by the lure of superficial and material things. True Christianity means conforming to the teachings of Christ. It demands we become more Christ like. It’s easy to wield power, it’s not so easy to be powerful and wield peace. The strength of Christianity is not in appearing strong in worldly ways, there are plenty of worthy candidates for that title. It is in being strong in spiritual ways, look at the power of St. John Paul II or St. Mother Theresa in the last century. Not everyone can or is willing to do the work required to manifest that strength. Yes, work! That is not the fault of Christianity, which makes the way available, but the fault of the sinner who turns away every time a shiny new toy is waved in front of them.
@@thedomesticmonk772 Hi, Monk.
Thanks for your reply. In it you again make important distinctions, and I'm not sure if we fundamentally disagree. At the same time, it is facile to dismiss developments with a false spiritualization, calling alternatives worldly and preferred perspectives spiritual. Every demographic marker indicates that the Church has not only been in crisis for decades but that this crisis was furthered by Church representatives who substituted the imago dei of God in Christ with an emasculated counterfeit. Your reference to JP II serves as an apt illustration. JP II was a man's man whom all could in many ways unashamedly admire, imitate and follow. During his tenure, the seminaries saw the restoration of vocations, even in the face of the lavender mafia. It is right, natural, good, wholesome, and appropriate that men be challenged to develop the virtues which are competent to address matters without falling to cheap imitations which do not possess the strength and power which their office identifies as being in possession and instead actually by their supposed restraint and moderation leave the sheep without their protection and leadership.
So if such leaders as JP II, who will publicly chastise a rebellious priest is the virtuous man that you're talking about, then I agree with you, but if what you mean is someone who prioritizes decorum while trusting God to work out difficulties, then I think you have chosen well to pursue a life of prayer and retirement. When men see men behaving like men, they are inspired themselves to become the men that they might be. When men see men behaving without dignity, they look elsewhere for inspiration.
@@gregorybarrett4998 that’s your opinion on how the Pope should lead. But all leaders have their own styles, weaknesses and strengths. Pope Francis is our Pope. He is Christ’s Vicar on earth and deserves our prayers and respect. He is going to be accountable to Jesus and God for his actions. We are going to be accountable for our own. Is your spiritual house so in order you can criticize the Pope? Really? Because if you believe it is, I’d recommend a serious examination of conscience. Church history shows us that those who loved the Pope, (or their Bishop), and treated him with charity, even when they disagreed with him on something often became Saints AND effected reform. Those who attacked the Pope and the Church tend to wind up heretics. You can only change yourself. It seems silly wasting time criticizing the Pope and your own Church when you could be sharing the Gospel and bringing people to Christ.
@@thedomesticmonk772 Hi, Monk.
Thanks for your reply. I think misunderstanding has induced loss of perspective in your composition of your reply. You had raised JP II as a model of Christian virtue, and I agreed with you, highlighting some aspects of that virtue. I had pointed out the demographic winter in the Church which predated the current pontificate, so it is unreasonable to suppose that my criticism was reserved to the current pontificate. You had advocated a pacifist approach to Church governance, and I responded with the recognition that such response is suitable for those whose vocation involves prayer and retirement from the world, but is a violation of the duties of leadership in the Church.
With respect to the current pontificate and our appropriate response, there are several meaningful considerations. In the first place, everyone without exception needs our prayers, and so it is fully appropriate that such prayers be offered, in proportion to their and our station in life. With respect to the question of respect, distinctions are appropriately drawn. Until Christ’s return, the Church operates in three phases: the Church glorious, already in possession of the beatific vision; the Church suffering, undergoing final purification; and the Church militant, confronting all the forces that militate against God, which perspective indeed has inspired your contributions throughout, Monk. One of the things that you’re taught in the military is that it is the uniform that you salute, not its occupant. One can, should, and does respect the gift of God in providing particular vehicles for the delivery of His grace. As for human beings, they deserve as much respect as they earn. There have been times in the Church’s history in which the faithful rightly presumed the virtue of high clergy simply in virtue of their having been selected for office. Such is not the case today.
You confuse categories of consideration when you insist that the exercise of the faculty of reason as relates to public acts of public persons is explicitly to be suppressed before perfect possession of all virtues is in evidence. The question is not whether one is able to demonstrate that there is no disorder in his own life; the question is rather whether one possesses sufficient knowledge and virtue to make a just determination of the meaning of such public acts. Beyond that, so long as there is not hypocrisy in condemning in others what one excuses in himself or those with whom he is identified, there is no objection to pursue multiple dimensions of the development of the good, such as the correction of public figures, the warning of those at risk from the unworthy behaviour of public figures, the support of growth in virtue of those with whom one is identified, and the pursuit of personal virtue. In that regard, by your own standard, Monk, you condemn yourself for criticizing both Matt and me throughout this thread. It is better to say that there are insights and perspectives that you bring which might help inform the discussion, and which themselves might need further refinement.
There is a rich wealth of material in Church history. One lesson which is appropriate to glean therefrom is the rich variety of ways in which grace works. Certainly you are correct, Monk, when you say that people became saints and achieved good for the Church by supporting wicked popes and bishops, but that’s not the whole of the story. Usually, far from becoming saints, such persons themselves became compromised and actually furthered the evil pursued by their superiors. Also, others have become saints precisely in publicly confronting the evil actively pursued by those occupying positions of authority. Wisdom is vindicated by her children, and if your vocation involves a pacifist response to evil, then it will be the means by which grace will multiply in and around you. That says nothing in support of the proposition that such is the only way in which grace works. Similarly, the popularization of saints’ lives emphasizes the moral danger of criticizing public figures and especially ecclesiastical figures. This is perfectly appropriate in popularizing accounts, but precisely because it is a popularizing account, it does not attend to the complementary moral dangers of cowardice and indifference, which so rack Church history as scarcely to merit notice.
It is certainly true, as you say, Monk, that we have more and more direct influence on our own lives than we do on the lives of others, but the sentence as you put it, “You can only change yourself”, is most definitely false. The question is the degree of influence. Some people have profound influence on millions, if not billions, of people, while others have only mild influence on only few in the immediate environment. Catholic moral teaching instructs men to pursue such personal development as will serve as the greatest channel of grace as suits one’s vocation.
You object that my behaviour is silly, Monk, because it is criticizing the Pope and Church, and thus serving as a counterwitness. There are several lines of thought which bear directly on this.
The first is invalidating: before posting your reply, did you stop to ask yourself whether you were yourself acting as precisely the counterwitness you condemn by criticizing Matt and me? I suspect not, and that even if you had, and now that it has been brought to your attention, your reply would be that it is necessary because the activity of the other is itself a counterwitness which stands in need of correction. Well, what’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander: if it is appropriate for you to present correction to Matt and me, then it is appropriate for Matt and me to criticize the counterwitness of Churchmen. Either you condemn yourself or you justify Matt and me.
The second concerns precisely the question of witness: Would you be enthusiastic to say to anyone who has no knowledge of Christianity or Catholicism, “Come and see what it is to live as a member of the Church Christ founded!”? Does not the life and witness that the Church presents to the world today rather itself represent in significant senses a counterwitness to the gospel? As things stand, the witness which must be made is, “Despite all appearances, the effect of access to the fullness of grace that Christ provides, which is available only in the Church, is a life of truth, and goodness, and holiness, and the pursuit of life with God in heaven. All the indicators to the contrary have particular explanation in some private, personal, individual defect, or are otherwise distinct from the Church, and I’m prepared to spend the hours to show that this disaster is not a systemic whole. Trust me, I can do it.” To which the unbiased unevangelized intelligent educated individual says, “Un-Hun. Sure. Well, you’ve got your work cut out for you.” It is part of evangelization to correct and purify the Church, and thereby to participate in the work of grace to make Her the obvious work of grace that She is by Her nature.
There’s a parallel to the Hail Mary’s helping him stay and his mother’s slap helping him stay.
Muslims: "No really! You have to believe me! We ARE a peaceful religion!!!"
Everyone else: Uh huh.
I read some of the quaran. How is beating your wife or killing infidels, peaceful? xD
Yeah.. a piece of you here.. a piece of you there...
@@richardlucascronley5128 “and a piece of you waaaaaay over there STAINING THE WALL.”
I am a devout Muslim. I wouldn't call Islam a "religion of peac TM" because it is a meaningless phrase. But if you are implying that Muslims have dealt more terror and killings on this planet than Christians have, then you are either ignorant of modern history or you suffer from cognitive dissonance.
@@richardlucascronley5128 I shouldn't giggle at this comment, but I am. 🤭
Matt you should invite Christian Prince to your show, he has been debunking Muslim lies for years and also has helped thousands of Muslims to leave that cult.
The same guy who rejects catholic truth.....like David white.
I love CP😃
Yeeeesss
@@quiricomazarin476 Christians, even protestants, differ on a lot of things but they also agree on the fundamentals.
The Divinity and Lordship of Jesus Christ is one key thing that CP and Catholics and David White all agree upon.
Muslims of course will try to focus on the differences among Christians.
Divide and conquer is their goal.
He has been refuted many times
It absolutely took courage that after saying the shahada he backed out - technically the Muslims may consider him an apostate which is punishable by death. (In an Islamic country rather than Australia, that may have been the result.) There are many Greek New Martyrs of the Orthodox Church who during the Turkish occupation of Greece were tricked or forced into "becoming Muslim" and when they attempted to continue as Christians they were executed.
Kyrie Eleison, memory eternal for our Holy Martyrs ☦
Thats an evil way to introduce someone to any religion. Caught him off guard and backed him into a corner before literally tricking him and saying that hes muslim now. As a muslim this is infuriating
It's funny that the slap from your mother made you take the faith more seriously. In the traditional rite of confirmation, the bishop gives the receiver a gentle slap.
It makes me cringe, cause I was ignorant about my faith too, but I was just too stubborn to leave, even when I didn't know very much about being Catholic or God. I can't imagine how sad it is for people who just give up on the faith or allow themselves to be tricked into leaving the faith. I don't know why, I don't know how, but I am so thankful that I was too stubborn or prideful to leave the church, cause where would I be now if I did? So many are lost because they did.
the fact that we don't have free will ,is why i don't believe the Abrahamic religions
Just make sure to lose that pride now brother stay strong
Let's pray for them and for their return to faith in the true God. ✝️
Most people who leave Christianity were not true Christian to being with. Lots of people think that being a Christian is to go to church sometimes and read the Bible which it isn’t. It’s about if you truly believe Jesus is the Son of God and having a spiritual connection with God. (Unfortunately I think this is the fault of a lot of Church’s who don’t talk about what truly makes someone saved). Once you are saved, you are saved but some have strayed for a bit until God calls them back. Unfortunately most people who think they are Christians that I have meet were not actually saved. And it truly is a sad site to see.
@@lunagrace2872 I don't think that's true. I was a devoted Christian as a child and young adult. I was one even after sexual abuse that happened within the walls of church, supposedly God's own house. But I still held the faith. Then I went to the military and saw some horrible things, lost some great friends whom I considered brothers and sisters.
If there is a God that is in control, I could never trust him again. It doesn't have anything to do with what my previous devotion was. Sometimes life experiences can change your outlook.
The Muslim god demands to be served. The Lord, however, waits with open arms and He calls us friend. We call him Abba. In Arabic, Abba isn’t just ‘father’ but more of a term of endearment like ‘daddy’.
I may be confused with the wording of your comment but doesn't Islam, Christianity, and Judaism all worship the same God? I know they all worship the God of Abraham, they just go about it in different ways.
@@aliskarape177 All different names for the same God. But they break apart with Jesus. Jewish stick with the old testament. Christians follow the old and new Testaments. Muslims stop with the old testament and then jump to Mohammed. Although Muslims do recognize Mary for some reason - I haven't gotten that far with my studies. Same God, but different interpretations.
@@ourladyofguadalupebotanica6732 Muslims don't skip the New Testament, the Gospels are mentioned several times in the Quran as a legitimate scripture revealed by God, although supposedly the Gospels that we have today are distorted in some way. Also Muslims, like Christians, believe that Jesus was the promised Messiah mentioned in the Old Testament, and that near the end of times Jesus will return to Earth to slay the Anti-Christ and bring about the Day of Judgment.
@@aliskarape177 christianity teaches god took human form, lived a sinless life and took the punishment for our sins on the cross, and that on the third day he was resurrected
islam teaches allah would never do such a thing and that isa was just a prophet, and when he was sentenced to crucifixion he had another man take his place and laughed at him and directly ascended to heaven by allah to save him from his sentence
very different God
@@ourladyofguadalupebotanica6732 they dont even follow the old testament, they believe noah had a fourth son named yam and that lots wife wasnt turned into a pillar of salt and that allah cursed isaac and that the children of ishmael are the true inheritors of israel
It is not only fasting on meat on Friday . Every Friday during Lent , on Ash Wednesday and on Good Friday. The monks and nuns in their monasteries would fast in a more rigorous manner, they would fast on water and bread.
We can eat one full meal a day and two small meals. Avoid eating what we like, sweets etc,
The 3 main points are: Prayer (justice towards God). Fasting (justice toward self) .Almsgiving (justice toward neighbors).
Secondly, not eating from dawn to sunset is one thing. Then, from sunset to dawn, it is eating and partying with neighbors and friends . Ramadan is party time every day . Is that fasting? I have lived in a muslim country and many people gained weight after Ramadan and many got sick because they ate too much during the night. Just before dawn, somebody would go through the streets to wake up people so they could quickly eat and drink before the fast would start. There was nothing religious in it for the vast majority. It was just following the rules in order not to be punished.
In Christian Orthodox Calender there about 75% of the dates in red which are fast dates.
There is a party attitude among many but many prioritize praises to the lord and many do both. There are Prayers right before iftaar and obviously a strict Fasting routine abstaining from all pleasures until sun down.
Apart from Ramadan many Muslims fast Every Monday and Thursday.
@@ॐIo yes I know that there are people who are earnest about it. I lived in a muslim country for 17 years and now that I am back in my country I am also doing a lot of voluntary work where I encounter many muslim women .
I always say that it Is not what the people do but what the Teachings are. If Catholics really followed their Faith and knew everything about their faith , the world would be a different place. Terrorism increases during Ramadan for the simple reason that during Ramadan, you do not only fast but do things that please God. What we call terror is not terror in their minds (those who do it) . They are pleasing god by destroying the kouffar . There is much more but I will not go into that. As people I will never differentiate between a muslim and somebody else. That would be ridiculous. All of us are children of God , if we know it or not. The ideologies and teachings are what I am against.
@@amiralsrbani24 yup, fasting almost every Wednesday and Friday (except during feasts), then lent and dormitory of the theotokos, please correct me if I am wrong of half right
@@duckmeat4674 you are correct! Priests and clergy myst follow the calendar to the letter !
The Imams questions were meant to confuse and not genuinely to help. You could ask the Imam 'Does the Quran say that the Torah and Gospel are the Word of God? If he says yes, but they were corrupted, then ask him where the Quran exactly says they were corrupted.
And *_when_* they were corrupted. There is no timeline in which the Q'n makes sense about the Gospels.
Ironic that the Quran is most likely the true corruption of scripture, however some Christian religions have corrupted/ changed scripture such as the masoratic text
I don’t think it’s wise to get into a religious debate with people from other faiths if you are not well equipped with the knowledge needed to have a fruitful conversation. I pray that my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ should at the very least have read through the Bible and the CCC before attempting to have a religious conversation. If you don’t know how to explain (to our best human efforts) the Holy Trinity, you can always refer the inquirers to RUclips videos given by Catholic priests and bishops like Bishop Barron. Just search for credible videos and articles to share with our unbaptised friends.
One must also be careful too. Depending on the disposition of the listener, many people will flat out refuse to listen to what you are saying and will think you are insulting them. Based on a person's heart, also people are not always prepared to listen or to consider Christianity. When people want to listen or are interested they will. If they are not your friend or don't know you very well then probably not. You can maybe mention being a Christian or that you're going to Mass, it may spark their interest or it may not. It depends on where they are on their journey.
@James Furey The Lord rebukes you. Who are you to judge an ordained Bishop and the direction of the Body of Christ that is the Catholic Church. Repent and believe in God while you still can.
A note on this first section about fasting. I haven't finished the video. Being a Byzantine Catholic, I'd say that our Lent is far better than what you're describing among the Muslims. No animal products, alcohol, or oil straight through. Exceptions only for beer and fish without a backbone, and even then it isn't had very often. Every Catholic should try it.
The Latin catholic fast used to be very similar. It was after vatican II that it was "softened". It had the same prohibitions except it did allow fish.
@@claudius_drusus_ It was "softened" because the Roman Catholic world is larger compared to the Byzantine Catholic world, and that world includes non-Catholics. Hence there may be times when it would be difficult or impractical for a Catholic to adhere to the fast.
For example, if you have to travel long distances for work during Lent, it might not be practical to give up butter and cheese, etc. like the Easterns do. I mean, if the only meal on the plane is a vegetarian cheesy pasta or a beef burger, and you haven't eaten in hours, God is not so cruel as to make you faint from hunger. You might say you could bring some food with you, but what if that is also not possible since you're coming from your hotel, and don't have time to get anything from the restaurant, or whatever.
Things like this happens, BUT during those times when you are at home and you can avoid butter and cheese, then do so. The Roman Church gives the minimum requirements, but not the maximum. You can do more, and indeed you are encouraged to do more, but you also know that during those times you cannot do more you're not sinning.
And really, Catholics do not FAST on Fridays during Lent. They ABSTAIN from eating meat. This guy has a lot to learn.
@@krdiaz8026 I wasn't criticizing vatican II. just explaining what happened and how it used to be. Thanks for the explanation.
@@marykuranda7254 he may have not been a Roman catholic. He may have been Chaldean Catholic.
3:00 I remember hearing a Thomas Merton tape years ago warning Western travelers in Mecca never to take a cab just before dusk during Ramedan. When the cannon goes off EVERYTHING stops and everyone chows down like a pie eating contest. People are people.
Non Muslims cannot enter Mecca.
Are you sure about your story? Western travelers, unless they are Muslim, are banned from entering Mecca, and would be punished pretty severely if caught
@@ndesi62 you’re right . Possibly Cairo. Time for the Prevagen.
I wouldn't even consider Ramadan a fast because they just stuff themselves at night and don't eat in the day. so basically switch the time you eat. a proper fast would be a small portion of food in a certain amount of time in my opinion.
I work at a Mexican restruant that serves some meat as halal and yeah, at Ramadan the eat a fucking buffet. They gorge themselves in their suhoor and iftars... it is really just skipping lunch. I think the only thing I could argue that is hard in their fast is giving up water.
Good point, it's not even a real fast, they basically switch the eating window from day to night. Muslims brag about not eating or drinking for the whole day like it's some God given superhuman strength only they have. I've done extended fasting over the last year for health reasons and I've done dry fasting (no food or any liquids) for up to 48 hours, which was easy even in the middle of july
@@aahlstrom93 you should watch godlogic apologetics and soco films and christian prince and cira international and shamounian and reasoned answers on RUclips and watch all the channels on RUclips smoked pork ribs 😀😀😀
@@aahlstrom93 and giving up water is the unhealthiest thing you can do!
No, we hardly eat when we break our fast. Also we lose alot of weight during Ramadan
Muslims don’t actually fast. Here in Saudi they sleep during the day and gorge at night during ramadan
How do they sleep during the day? What about their jobs?
@@aahlstrom93 expats make up most of the working class. Most stores are at night. Saudis barely work anyways, mainly just tea time.
@@paul_321 Coming from an area where I am working 50 hours a week at 3 jobs, and where construction workers (who make tons of money) work up to 60 even if they don't need money this really boggles my mind. How is such a lazy (the Saudis, not expats) civilization able to sustain itself? Or are we the ones who are duped into working ourselves to death for corporations?
@@aahlstrom93 The World, and the individual advances as we build and prosper for our children and generations to come. If we are apathetic about the future, why should the future be sympathetic to the past?
In KSA, apathy reigns and nothing gets finished, especially at the hands of Saudis.
Muslims fast during the day but they eat as much as possible at night and before sun rice . At the end of Ramadan most Muslims are fatter than before Ramadan. During Ramadan there is more waste food in Muslim countries than during normal times. What is the point of that ?
Virtue-signaling
@@thstroyur No, no really. I don't think I am better than these people and I am not pointing my finger to anyone. My comment was directed to what the iman, from the mosque, told Charbel concerning their fasting being real fasting compared to the Christian one when, in reality, it is not.
It is not because they eat even more and waste more food than when it is not Ramadan, they just do not eat during the day. The Christian fasting means you eat less than normal during the total time of Lent and Advent.
The iman was the one virtue-signalling, but you didn't realized that.
@@absalon6888 What I meant is that the practice of indulging in "kosher" (halal?) timeslots during Ramadan reveals the fasting itself as a kind of virtue-signaling for the Muslims to broadcast how pious they are to the rest of their community; socially speaking, it's very akin to Pharisaic practices described in the Bible. Fasting is mortification - but the point of the mortification is not simply doing it for its own sake, but growing spiritually by doing it.
@@thstroyur Ah , ok. Sorry for my misunderstanding. Totally agree with you.
the goal isn’t to lose weight. it to fast for the sake of God and sacrifice your own comfort. it’s a form of worship
Which fast is better? The Christian fast because it's to honor the one true God! Easy.
I don't share the respect of the speakers for the Muslim fast. They have the most extreme fast during the day (not drinking water) and then party during the night, as if it were some pagan ritual for a god who is blind during nighttime. I understand why it is a profound experience which strengthens communal ties, but theologically speaking, it seems like a parody of fasting.
IKR? 😆
@@trismegistus2881 not to mention it was potentially dangerous for pregnant women. Not allowed a sip of water all day! I had to explain to some that even their Iman would allow pregnant women to drink water, especially for time sensitive medical exams!
@@c.Ichthys pregnant women and sick people are not obligated to fast. Please do not speak things of which you have no knowledge.
@@uzayrwasif7604
Don't lecture me when you have no idea about my first hand experiences!! I worked in the medical field and when pregnant Muslim women had to get a time sensitive medical exam which required them to drink 6 cups of water and not urinate, they would tell me they were not allowed since it was agsint their religious fasting requirement of Ramadan. I would be the one telling them that they, because they are pregnant, did not have to fast and were allowed to drink water and to verify with their Iman. That going without water for long periods is actually dangerous.
Go and read my post again very carefully and see what I wrote. You should apologize!
My question to Muslims has always been one question that some try to answer but still can’t seem to fully explain and that question i ask Muslims is if they believe prophets are liars, and they’re answer is always no. So if no prophets are liars because they were righteous men of God then how can they say Jesus is not the son of God? If Jesus lies to the world about being the Son of God then that would make all prophets before him liars including Muhammad who claims to be the last prophet. This is something that most Muslims I’ve asked can not answer fully and if they do answer the question it always contradicts itself one way or another
Nice one. Another question they cannot answer is this.
Is Quran/Kalamullah (Word of God) creation of creator? Is it eternal or not?
Uninformed muslim will say Kalam/The Word is creation. This is a heresy among Islam that can cause you your life.
Informed muslim will say it is neither Creator or Creation. Wallahuallam, only Allah know best. And it is Eternal.
Now you can make them think, if The Word is Eternal but not Allah, and Allah is also eternal, than you have 2 eternal being. And this is shirik. Shirik is an unforgiveable sin in Islam.
Then you can quote to them John Chapter 1.
They actually do have an answer to this, possibly more. The First would be that while the gospels were originally holy, they were corrupted to lead people into idolatry. The question I once asked a Muslim couple was, if the Quran says that the word of Allah cannot be corrupted, and the Gospels were once the holy word of God, how could they become corrupted? I don’t remember their answer precisely, but I remember it being weaker than a Frenchman’s handshake.
@@noahlynn827 And Jesus said that not one iota of the law will pass away, even if Heaven and Earth do.
Yes ,that's a conflict of their understanding that I've often understood too . I've often spoken to Muslims while doing ministry in china , and found them to be supportive , but more intent on religion than on acting in "charity" . Money does the work of their charity , not devotion to loving and helping others .
There is not a single unequivocal statement in the bible where Jesus himself says I am God
Abstaining from meat is not a fast, but simply not doing(or eating) something we like. What we do on Good Friday and other days like that is a fast.
Hi, Die.
Thanks for your comment, which helps draw distinctions. I would add two thoughts to build on yours. The first is that abstinence on a regular basis provides continual reminders that neither this life nor pleasure in this life is the driving consideration for the Christian. The second is that, with respect to fasting, the Catholic fast has been shown to be the more demanding and penitential than the simple fast of total abstinence. Total abstinence sends the signal that food is not an issue, so ignore altogether all considerations of hunger, whereas maintaining the structure of the day in which we sit down as we always do for regularly scheduled meals, only to encounter that our hunger is to be restrained and subjected to penance and purification and the pursuit of greater goods, is a much stronger signal.
"but simply not [...] eating" -- yeah, so a fast.
It's not a fast in the sense of canon law, but it's a fast in a generic sense,
Excellent!!! Thank you for this video! I’m going to watch the full one now.
Me too!
“love is love” has become the mark of the beast. Whoever utters that line, is inspired by Satan.
What a wonderful interview...❤
In Islam, Jesus is The Word of God, The Messiah, a prophet. In Christianity He is also God, The Morning Star....He has many titles. Ask a Muslim what Messiah means. Muhammad was not called that. If the Word of Allah is an attribute of Allah and Jesus is the Word of God, then Jesus shares an attribute of God and is either a partner or a person of God. Both are forbidden in Islam. Yes, they make no sense.
Eastern Orthodoxy is the masculine Christianity ☦️
It's the motive behind it I would say. God doesn't require anything grand as long as we do it in love
When you know your Bible, no-one can confuse you, neither Satan nor a muslim.
Watch Apostate Prophet channel. He debunks lies of Islamic apologists
Apostate Prophet, and I'm also a member of the Acts17 Community!
@@mikaelacash3791 great
I had this conversation before by my Muslim colleague:
A : Why your God is 3? Why Jesus is son of God, but he's still god? it does not makes sense.
me simply answered : Our understanding about GOD is about RELATIONS, not about singularity of matter/ Dzat lof Allah like from Quran.
1. Father (God in Nature) : Human Relation to God as like Supreme Being, father figure, or someone says He's actually genderless, but still represent the power of Nature, Earth, Universe, etc
2. Son (God in Flesh) : Human Relation to God as Loving Being, Teacher, Friend, exemplary, Unconditional Love, Sacrifice, and Humanely Figure, God of Words
3. Holy Spirit (God in Soul): Human Relation to God as goodness among ordinary people, collective consciousness about kindness figure.
And all three of them is ONE ENTITY and UNIVERSAL, not a matter/ dzat/ diety / illusion/ etc
CMIIW, just my simple understanding to explain to other person..
Your theology is off a bit. Seems kinda like modalism, one god acting in three ways.
The Trinity is a mystery. It doesn't perfectly make sense, because God is as far above the reaches of human thought as the heavens are above the earth. And as we know now, the heavens are infinite.
That being said, whatever God is, all three persons, or hypostases, are. All three are God in nature. I think the closest thing we have on earth is a force couple. Imagine grabbing a plate with two hands and spinning it. One hand pushes the plate up, one hand pulls the plate down, and the plate turns. All three are forces, a pushing force, a pulling force, and a rotational force. All three exist simultaneously, and if you take away one, all cease to exist. They are united, and share the same nature, but are also independent, discernable, real things.
@@josephmoya5098 but your explanation more confusing for beginer to see christianity. Obstacle for evangelize. Even we actually could argue trinity is already written in Old testament, but sporadically as Subject matter such Elohim, God of Word, and God of Spirit as simply as that. The issues right now is how bad our catechumens to explain that in perfect way, or just simply mentioned the role of Nicaean council.
@@user-lr6hw4dq4t It might be more confusing for a beginner. I will grant that. Works best if you are a physics nerd. And it is a very imperfect analogy.
Still, I think we should be careful in reducing the Trinity to aspects of the same thing as if each person of the Trinity is an aspect of God, rather than fully God by nature. I mean, if I knew someone was already dedicatedly Christian, I would definitely go for the pure, Jesus is God, the Father is God, the Spirit is God, and you can't perfectly make sense of that, because God is beyond comprehension. But I can see that being a major stumbling block to evangelization.
@@josephmoya5098 by all means, I always agree nature of God is mystery and beyond human comprehension. But that's not how we explain to human with comprehensive framework. Of course if a catholic neccessary to obey the teaching of magisterium, orthodoxy focusing on divine mystery, protestanism focusing on scripture.... but how about common christian who need to explain for question coined by non christian? Have you ever know how christianity spread in Asia? Even the missionaries mixed church teachings with local wisdom. In my country, priest often were teach christianity with understanding of hinduism ethics. I already know this may split the church till this day, even a debate for those who support nor against the current pope, debate of "modern salvation", and many more. I'll simply be very sad If I couldn't explain the trinity properly for curious souls.
it's interesting to see that someone is born into a catholic family yet knows so little about the faith. what a mess. no wonder people like that are so easy to be picked-away. good thing is that he realized what he was about to lose and he came back. fro a muslim perspective though, he'd be considered as not a muslim, as truly, he never really got deep into it.
To be fair to him, Muslims are taught from early age how to challenge Christianity. However, if you really wish to reach out to them, you need not only a good knowledge of your faith but you also need to know what the Qu'ran and the Hadith say. Muslims all believe that the Bible and Torah were corrupted and will not accept anything that comes from them as authorative or trustworthy.
Here is one example on how to answer a Muslim challenge to the Trinity by using their own scripture against them:
Ask them what the 3 most common names for Allah are. The will answer with: "the merciful, the compassionate and the loving". Now ask them this: "Are those his eternal names?" ( Meaning he always had them). Once they answer "yes" follow with "Then who was Allah merciful, compassionate and loving towards before he created Adam and Eve?"
The point here is that in order to be merciful, loving and compassionate, you need an object for your love, mercy and compassion. Christianity can easily answer this since God the Father always loved the Son and they both always loved the Holy Spirit. Once humanity was created they simply extend that love to them.
@@hrvojevilic1674 no doubt. looking at this whole thing more closely that religion is a contrarian set of beliefs against Christianity. there are also other passages in Koran where muslims are to consult Christians in their beliefs when they don't know something, which is kind of silly if what they believe in is supposed to be the actual thing. the story here shows how badly educated Christians are, especially catholic in their own faith. it's a shame.
Actually, after Vatican II the interest in apologetics within the catholic community died out. Catholics just wanted to get along with other faith groups for ecumenism. However the others like protestants and Muslims kept their apologetics sharp and their polemics sharper.
Most cradle catholics are like sheep to the slaughter when questioned about their faith as they never thought about such questions and have no answers for them.. Thankfully apologetics have started gaining traction again. Cradle catholics really need to put their desire for ecumenism in the back seat, brush up on apologetics first before going about in the spirit of ecumenism.
@@oliver8160 ecumenism is a misguided idea that jesuits have been promoting for decades. what it amounts to is one-way street - everything at the expense of Truth. Church is in retreat. protestants / muslims / orthodox are in errors and heretical positions and they haven't changed a bit. so what's the point? catholics are sacrificing their faith and societies to appeal to others that couldn't give two rats about it.
What convinced me Islam is false is the parallels between end time events of Christianity and Islam.
I'm fairly convinced that the sin of Abraham will have end time effects on us.
“Dispensation culture.”
Imma use that.
Roman Catholics in Poland give up meat on every Friday, all year round. For Lent you must try harder, dude!😅
Poland; the very faithful daughter of the Church. Man, i 💕 it
@@tikitakati6124: I’m glad that you like Poland🇵🇱❤️🤗, but I’m no man, I’m a woman!😁
Let's face it, the persuasion usually ends in force
Shroud of Turin and Eucharistic miracles and science has proven Jesus our Lord our God!
“Islam seems like a much more masculine religion”, says Matt.
Well that's understandable considering their founder.
Islam's founder was a prophet as well as warlord at the head of an army.
A conqueror who got a percentage of any booty his followers took in war. He had 11 wives not counting female slaves.
He once said, "Know that Paradise is under the shades of swords."
He sent a letters to the surrounding kingdoms including Ethiopia, Byzantium, Persia, etc. asking them to convert to Islam and submit to him.
He wrote to Emperor Heraclius, "I am writing this invitation to call you to Islam. If you become a Muslim you will be safe. And God will double your reward.
But if you reject this invitation of Islam you will bear the sin of having misguided your subjects."
When a warlord sends you a letter like that, you should prepare for the worst.
The letters are still preserved in Istanbul and Medina.
He died in 632.
Within a hundred years, Islamic armies had reached Poitiers in France in the West and India in the east.
A thousand years later, in 1683, Islamic armies attempting to take Vienna were defeated by the Holy League led by the Catholic king of Poland John Sobieski.
The Islamic threat only abated once the West became technologically superior.
Even today, many Muslims look forward to another "golden age" when Islam will once again be ascendant if not regnant.
Masculine? Oh yes indeed.
Probably a majority of peace religionists look forward to another golden age when peacelam will once again be ascendant and ruling. The political aspect of peacelam is not to be underestimated based on other secularism-friendly religions.
Dont forget Belgrade in 1456
They very persona of genocidal maniacs they destroy beautiful places in the name of expanding their faith take Egypt as an example all the knowledge that ancient Egypts had built was destroyed
@MR. Poo Head What can be more masculine than voluntarily suffer throu flogging, carry heavy piece of wood for maybe miles, nailed upon that wood, dieing and then coming back to life and freeing the world from sin in glory?
in isalm one of the 99 names of allah is "kheir al makirin" which translates to english into The greatest deceiver. that alone proves the entire religion wrong
It certainly sounds like the case, but I wonder if that’s their way of trying to explain the problem of evil.
St. Thomas Aquiius explains the problem evil is that God cannot commit evil because God is good; there for God wills to permit evil. But actual fact that means in essence that God does Permit evil.
@@thomasdimattia3556 Their god is the one that decides whether or not he guides them or leaves them in the dark:" And whoever Allah guides - he is the [rightly] guided; and whoever He sends astray - you will never find for them protectors besides Him…” Quran (Surah Israa, 97).
And Allah [i.e., Allah’s law] guides not the people who are Al-Fasiqun (rebellious, disobedient to Allah).” (9:24)
(35:8) - For, verily, God lets go astray him that wills [to go astray], just as He guides him that wills [to be guided]. [Asad]
and you can find it in: (14:4) ,(16:93),(9:24), and many more.
Unlike the God of the bible like in Luke 15:7.I say unto you, that likewise, joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.
You had a very valid question and thank you for bringing your way of thinking forward! I highly recommend you to read Jesus vs Mohammad written by Mark Gabriel a former Imam from Egypt who saw the light of Christ: he tells his story and there is a neutral part of the book that only presents historical facts and events that compare Jesus and Muhammad.
I enjoy researching different religions but if you have to lie about Islam to disprove it then you are making Christianity look weak. There is no such name of Allah, there is the Haqq - the True/Truth/True Reality.
Allah is the One who guides and the One who leads astray. And He only allows people to go astray if they turn away themselves. It is in the Quran, if you can be bothered to read all of it and not cherry pick.
Besides bringing up how the Qur'an hasn't been perfectly preserved, another point to bring up in debate with Muslims is the hadith Sahih al-Bukhari 5134 (hadith are authenticated stories about the life of the prophet Muhammad).
Sahih al-Bukhari 5134 is an account from Muhammad's wife, 'Aisha, about how she was married to Muhammad at the age of 6 (yes, six), and how he "consummated" their marriage when she was only 9. Yes, nine years old.
I'd always thought that stories about Muhammad being a p*do were simply anti-Muslim propaganda, but as it turns out, it's completely true, according to Islam's own most-highly regarded sources. Islam officially condones child marriage, on the basis that their prophet did it, therefore it's permissible. Some Muslims will say "no no, she was more like 16 or 17", but Sahih al-Bukhari 5134 is very clear, and educated Muslim scholars agree that 'Aisha was a child when Muhammad married her. You can actually find videos here on RUclips of Muslims defending such child marriage. I've even seen it myself in conversations with Muslims.
Bringing up this point about child marriage is a really good way to keep people, especially Westerners, from converting to Islam. So the more people who know about it, the better!
There's also the Satanic verses where Mohammed does indeed tell his followers to worship other gods.
Furthermore, he has no miracles and he also removes baptism which is well attested by reports of John the Baptist in ancient antiquity.
If anybody converts to Islam from Christianity. Then they never had faith in Christ to begin with.
UNITY PRAYER TO BLIND SATAN
My adorable Jesus May our feet journey together May our hands gather in Unity May our hearts beat in unison May our souls be in harmony May our thoughts be as one May our ears listen to the silence together May our glances profoundly penetrate each other May our lips pray together to gain mercy from the eternal Father. Amen.
St Elizabeth Kindleman writes in her diary that Jesus says this prayer will blind Satan and souls will not be led into sin. This has been approved by the Church. It is known as the flame of love movement.
This testimony reinforces the fact that islam is predatory. Not only is their primary prophet a sexual predator, but the teachers take advantage of children's lesser rationale capacity. Fortunately, Charbel received the grace to come to the truth
I was a luke warm catholic. Clueless that i have the true faith that Jesus has established in this world. I entertained the idea of joining the cult of Protestantism, which inpersonally believe is the works of the devil, regardless of their knowledge or how pious their lives is. Im still a fallible soul who will fall into sin at the first instant unless God saves me from myself. But i have the Sacrament that God instituted to help me to strive to be holy. I dont care about any religion outside christianity, i care about those who are under these false religion who doesn’t have Jesus in their lives and their conversion. Jesus wants us to be with Him, and not away from Him but be kind and generous and live according tontheir personal belief.
I can't support Islam because all muslims I've spoken to claim that God and Allah are the same and that we serve the same god. But still they deny that Christ is God, so how is our god the same god?
Spoiler alert: they’re not
It is because in their quran it's implying that Christians believe allah has a son, when in actually we don't even believe in their god allah. Their quran makes it seem as though Christians believed in allah but then decided Jesus was allah's son. The muslims think that christianity used to be true until christians changed it, so then mohammed came to set things right. The quran speaks a lot about their version of jesus and their versions of stories found in the bible, they are changed versions. And the quran tells christians to quit believing that God is a Trinity. Basically their entire mindset is different and it's hard to convince them to change it. Because it's written in their religion.
Muslim fast is better?! What do you know about Christianity then?
I'm an Orthodox, we have The Great Lent, The Christmas Fast and two other fasting periods during the year, besides that we fast every Wed and Fr the whole year, basically it's more than 50% of the year fasting, what do you think now then? That's better to fast one month and go back to binging or to control yourself the whole year?
Ramadan is NOT a fast. Its a pale imitation if what a fast is. Yes, you dont eat during day, but at night you can eat as much as you like.
Yeah and christians can eat anything other than meat all day long as well so whats the point lol.
Just seems like you have a different definition of what a fast is.
Doesnt mean you need to insult another persons culture to make yourself feel better.
And our heavenly father is our spiritual father. All Islam knows is carnality. The reason Muslims can’t understand anything about the Bible, and when I say can’t I mean cannot, is because they are not filled with the Holy Spirit. No one who has not submitted to Jehovah and is born again in the spirit can be filled with the spirit. It’s the power of the Holy Spirit and the leading and teaching of the Holy Spirit that allows believers to understand the truth about the Trinity and God being our father and Jesus being his son and the Holy Spirit being the third member of the Trinity.
Actually catholics are called to fast on bread water Wednesday and Fridays . Its in are history.
I have met many committed evangelical catholics . Its up to us .
They just don’t understand the Trinity or the incarnation of Christ Jesus the Son or the Gospel. In the quran, these are all wrong.
The God of the Bible is the one true God who is perfect in every way who paid the full debt of sin once and for all “perfect justice” by the perfect Lamb/Savior that all sin is punished and paid for. God also demonstrated the greatest act of love ever. For God demonstrated His own love for us, in that while we were still yet sinners, Christ died for us! No greater love than this that God “the Son” who is infinite in pure righteous holiness took on the exact opposite of His nature into Himself for us who committed them so that we could be made the righteousness of God by the death/resurrection/glory of the one and only Son Jesus Christ!
Allah never did any of that for us.
The first question about God not being the Father (4:45) is the clearest indication to me that Islam is not the religion of Jesus Christ despite Muslims claiming that Islam is the original religion of Jesus and all the prophets. So we should all "revert" to Islam according to Muslims.
The Quran teachers that God cannot have a son/children.
Any Muslim proselytizing Christians who use "Father" to refer to God is being disingenuous and using a Christian concept which is by definition un-Islamic.
Therefore the Allah Muslims worship is not the God the Father of Jesus.
Why?
When Jesus prays, He calls God His Father.
By their own admission, Allah IS NOT and cannot be a Muslim's father.
Of the 99 names of Allah, "Father" is not one of them.
Yet how many times is that term used in the Bible?
Jesus taught us the God IS indeed Our Father.
That is the same God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
Who do you believe?
The most important, most intimate prayer in Christianity is the "OUR FATHER."
It is the most personal instruction, most personal legacy or gift to us from Jesus Christ Himself.
He taught it to us Himself.
For a Muslim to claim that Jesus never said that flies in the face of every evidence.
They contradict Jesus Himself. Or more accurately, Jesus Himself debunks them.
How many times was God called the Father in the Bible?
A few examples:
"FATHER forgive them for they know not what they are doing."
“ABBA, FATHER all things are possible for you. Remove this cup from me. Yet not what I will, but what you will.”
"Be perfect as YOUR heavenly FATHER is perfect."
"..For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are SONS OF GOD.
For you...received the Spirit of adoption by whom we cry out, "ABBA, FATHER."
...we are children of God, and if children, then heirs-heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ...that we may also be glorified together." Romans 8:15
We Christians ARE family - literally not just figuratively. As Catholics, through the Holy Eucharist, we literally become one flesh with Jesus Christ and thus one family through Christ, ADOPTED CHILDREN OF GOD in flesh and spirit.
We can literally claim that Jesus IS, in the truest sense, FLESH OF MY FLESH, BLOOD OF MY BLOOD.
The Muslim has directly contradicted Jesus and distanced himself from that family.
Beautifully said!
Why do Muslims want everyone to become Islamic?
@@lyndavonkanel8603 I have never seen that line of argument in debunking Muslim claims that Islam is the "real" religion of Jesus. Not sure why.
@@lyndavonkanel8603 Huge topic.
Theological, political, social, psychological, historical reasons.
One important reason is the example of Muhammad who clearly wanted everyone to become Muslim or at the very least be under the domination of Muslims.
Christ gave Christians "The Great Commission" to tell the world the Good News about salvation.
Muhammad had something similar since he claimed to be a prophet of God like Jesus who preceded him. He claimed Jesus was just a prophet not the Son of God.
But he was also a warlord at the head of an army. The more people that joined Islam, the more powerful he became. Before fighting an enemy he offered them the chance to convert to Islam and join them.
Islam was and is a theological- political- social ideology.
It is a big topic.
They may fast from sunrise to sunset, but then they gorge themselves all night!
Hardly an imposition...
The acid test for polygamy.
If love is endless and giving it equally to each wife is the criteria for being able to have that many. Then the husbands should be just as fine with a wife who has many husbands as long as she is able to equally spread her duties across each husband.
im a muslim AND a woman and i can guarantee you, a very very small number of woman want more than one husband. most woman are monogamous
@@user-oh2di9td3fbut if a woman wants to have more than one husband, why can’t she?
Islam seems more masculine? I don't know how you came to that conclusion. Also, please tell me what we have to learn from a false religion?
The Imam gets it backwards. Human fatherhood is given to us as an imperfect example of God's Fatherhood. In the same way, human priesthood is given to us as an imperfect example of Jesus' Priesthood. The same also applies to marriage and to our sacrifices to God - they are imperfect imitations of what exits perfectly in God, given to us to help us better know and understand God.
One is father and the other is Father. Not the same are they? That is your first hint that we do not think of God the same as we do humans.
What's masculine about people praying or fasting? No shade to Matt, but when it comes ot highly religious Christian men, I wonder how much of their faith is due to being delivered vs finding their masculine identity?
A certain 'masculine Christianity' does exist. Many Church fathers described themselves as "warriors for Christ", and hardened their mind and body through extreme fasting and self-deprivation. I guess this doesn't correspond to what the world considers 'masculine', though.
@@trismegistus2881 Hm, what I see here is the idea of absolute dedication and responsibility.
@@lavinder11 i dont think dedicated women of that era described themselves as soldiers for Christ
1×1×1=1
Yes- 1 leaf x 1 leaf x 1 leaf = 1 shamrock
The 3 hypotheses of God are not multiplied by each other to result in a singular being. Please stop this rediculous Muslim numerical equation stuff.
@@aahlstrom93
The mystery of the Trinity of God is difficult for mere humans to fully comprehend and we apply human intelligence to try to explain.
Look at the three leaf clover: one plant with three identical leaves. Not separate. I liken the stem now as the human form of Jesus (see how it is still attached to the trinity of leaves, and part of the one plant). Not separated.
Jesus has 2 natures: fully divine (second Person of the Trinity as God the Word/The Son), and fully human, as son of man, with a soul and the now resurrected (flesh) body. Jesus is the bridge between heaven and earth. Mediator between God and humans. (So, analogy: the stem of the clover, is the "bridge" between the earth and "heaven" where the three leaves of the clover are above the earth, yet still attached).
Now, another analogy: Envision a semi frozen stream: Running water, ice formed from the same water, from which foggy mist arises from, and above, the water and ice. The molecular structure is identical and all from the running semi stream. Not separated. One: Water, ice and mist.
The holy Trinity of God: Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Not separated.
If ice, water and steam can be different, but the same - then so can God, Jesus and The Holy Spirit.
Islam is more of a political movement then religion .
Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “O People of the Book! Let us come to common terms: that we will worship none but Allah, associate none with Him, nor take one another as lords instead of Allah.” But if they turn away, then say, “Bear witness that we have submitted ˹to Allah alone˺.”
O People of the Book! Why do you argue about Abraham, while the Torah and the Gospel were not revealed until long after him? Do you not understand?
Here you are! You disputed about what you have ˹little˺ knowledge of, but why do you now argue about what you have no knowledge of? Allah knows and you do not know.
Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian; he submitted in all uprightness and was not a polytheist.
Indeed, those who have the best claim to Abraham are his followers, this Prophet, and the believers. And Allah is the Guardian of those who believe.
Some of the People of the Book wish to mislead you ˹believers˺. They mislead none but themselves, yet they fail to perceive it.
O People of the Book! Why do you reject the signs of Allah while you bear witness ˹to their truth˺?
O People of the Book! Why do you mix the truth with falsehood and hide the truth knowingly?
A group among the People of the Book said ˹to one another˺, “Believe in what has been revealed to the believers in the morning and reject it in the evening, so they may abandon their faith.
And only believe those who follow your religion.” Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “Surely, ˹the only˺ true guidance is Allah’s guidance.” ˹They also said,˺ “Do not believe that someone will receive ˹revealed˺ knowledge similar to yours or argue against you before your Lord.” Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “Indeed, all bounty is in the Hands of Allah-He grants it to whoever He wills. And Allah is All-Bountiful, All-Knowing.”
He chooses whoever He wills to receive His mercy. And Allah is the Lord of infinite bounty.
There are some among the People of the Book who, if entrusted with a stack of gold, will readily return it. Yet there are others who, if entrusted with a single coin, will not repay it unless you constantly demand it. This is because they say, “We are not accountable for ˹exploiting˺ the Gentiles.” And ˹so˺ they attribute lies to Allah knowingly.
Absolutely! Those who honour their trusts and shun evil-surely Allah loves those who are mindful ˹of Him˺.
Indeed, those who trade Allah’s covenant and their oaths for a fleeting gain will have no share in the Hereafter. Allah will neither speak to them, nor look at them, nor purify them on the Day of Judgment. And they will suffer a painful punishment.
There are some among them who distort the Book with their tongues to make you think this ˹distortion˺ is from the Book-but it is not what the Book says. They say, “It is from Allah”-but it is not from Allah. And ˹so˺ they attribute lies to Allah knowingly.
It is not appropriate for someone who Allah has blessed with the Scripture, wisdom, and prophethood to say to people, “Worship me instead of Allah.” Rather, he would say, “Be devoted to the worship of your Lord ˹alone˺”-in accordance with what these prophets read in the Scripture and what they taught.
And he would never ask you to take angels and prophets as lords. Would he ask you to disbelieve after you have submitted?
˹Remember˺ when Allah made a covenant with the prophets, ˹saying,˺ “Now that I have given you the Book and wisdom, if there comes to you a messenger confirming what you have, you must believe in him and support him.” He added, “Do you affirm this covenant and accept this commitment?” They said, “Yes, we do.” Allah said, “Then bear witness, and I too am a Witness.”
Whoever turns back after this, they will be the rebellious.
Do they desire a way other than Allah’s-knowing that all those in the heavens and the earth submit to His Will, willingly or unwillingly, and to Him they will ˹all˺ be returned?
Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “We believe in Allah and what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and his descendants; and what was given to Moses, Jesus, and other prophets from their Lord-we make no distinction between any of them, and to Him we ˹fully˺ submit.”
Whoever seeks a way other than Islam, it will never be accepted from them, and in the Hereafter they will be among the losers.
Quran (3:64 - 85)
- The first logical reason why Islam is not for the whole world is that it was only presented in Arabic which was a very minor language of its time and did not even have a complete written language that could not be misinterpreted.
- Secondly as the quran contradicts what the God teaches in the Bible and does not confirm what the Bible teaches as proclaimed by Mohammed, so logically it cannot be from God.
- Thirdly, with Jesus dying on the cross, no further prophet was needed for all of man-kind. Which explains why Mohammed was so desperately trying to suggest that Jesus did not die on the cross for all of man-kind. Mohammed making this vague suggestion that Jesus did not die on the cross of course would mean that God had lied to all Christians for some 600 years which of course is not logical.
- Fourthly, after Mohammed was rejected by the Jews in Medina, he either banished them Medina or murdered them. Clearly not something our God of the Bible would do.
- Fifthly, after Mohammed had abandoned his hope of persuading the Jews in Medina to accept him as a prophet he went back to following pagan idol worship rituals like bowing down to the Kaaba when it is was full of pagan idol gods. Later going on the pilgrimage to the Kaaba when it was still of pagan idols. Mohammed kissed the black stone in the Kaaba like the pagan idol worshippers. Mohammed walked around the Kaaba like the pagan idol worshippers. And Mohammed followed the bowing down ritual in prayer just like pagan idol worshippers did.
Sixthly, Mohammed insulted God when he claimed that Jesus was not God but that he was a prophet of God.
These points all show that Mohammed was never a prophet of our ONE TRUE GOD of the Bible.
There were no Jews in Medina. It's all made up nonsense.
7:33 I can testify to an "RCIA" (didn't call it that in Sweden) that took me from autumn 1986 to spring 1988, after I had already decided sooner or later to convert in 1984, after reading The Name of the Rose by Umberto Eco and finding out Albigensians weren't Christians.
8:08 My mother started out warning me, and ended up basically accepting the Faith.
The "marital status" if one may call it so has stopped her from actually converting and receiving the sacraments.
With her it's a huge thing that Catholics actually take Luke 16:18 and Mark 10:11 as written.
2:13 In Islam they also eat from sunset to sunrise, if so inclined.
Older Catholic fasting discipline by limiting the quantity to one full meal a day, you eat your fill but don't overeat, perhaps a small collation at the evening (less than 250 g of solids) perhaps some biscuit along the coffee for breakfast (60 g) would actually be stricter than Ramadan. Taking the quantities recommended as limits from Konvertitenkatechismus, 1950, Paderborn, hence the metric measures.
Abstaining from meat, and even more so from meat, eggs and dairy, is a way of keeping testosterone levels a bit down.
the point is no one does that vs muslims who fast a compulsory fast for 30 days in a row every year plus do voluntary fasts every monday and thursday. muslims also pray 5 times a day everyday no matter what which helps encourage disciple. how many christian’s even pray once a week lol anyways don’t criticise muslims when they’re actually following their religion
_"the point is no one does that"_
I am one of the Catholics who do try to abide by Roman Catholic fasting rules. 6 days a week from Ash Wednesday to Holy Saturday = 40 days, and there are other fast days over the year too.
We exist.
I would have succeeded better if Muslims and Protestants hadn't thought it a great thing to give me to eat when fasting, just because I was hungry.
Or did "does that" refer to Muslims partying all night, from sunset to sunrise, minus some hour, so it's completely dark?
Yes, in Paris the Muslims from Maghreb certainly do that.
This Holy Saturday, early in the morning, I wanted to keep the minute breakfast minute because of the fasting rule. It was also Ramadan and the Seder had been the evening before, but the items offered the day before, late on Good Friday, strictest fast day of the year, after I had eaten all licit meals, didn't look like including typical Pesakh foods of Judaism. A Christian who didn't think I wanted to keep fasting and considered one could start Easter early is possible, but not my priority suspicion.
He came back. He was meddling that Saturday morning with my luggage. I told him to go away. I pushed him when he refused and got kicked on the ground when hit hard enough to fall.
_"don’t criticise muslims when they’re actually following their religion"_
Not even when it inspires a dominant behaviour towards others?
And before you tell me we don't know if that was a Muslim, I know some in a pre-confinement years Summer Ramadan were pushing me to eat to much, I once had to shout because my kidneys were hurting. And before you tell me, I could have said "no thanks" - that's technically true, but when I said no thanks, someone was coming by a quarter of an hour later and making another offer. I ended up being half time annoyed and half time overeating. Until, as said, my kidneys hurt.
@@hglundahl you’re different then. most christians have abandoned their faith to appear more progressive and liberal. if you follow your religion correctly, good for you.
@@user-oh2di9td3f And if Muslims allow me to do so, good for them.
you two are gold, we need more of this
Avoiding meat during Lent is not fasting, but is more specifically called ABSTINENCE.
Catholics and other Christians do have fasting...and that means absolutely no food - for as long as one's preference. We can fast for 12 hrs., or 1 whole day (24 hrs.), or for 3 days, or one whole week - or even one whole month.
Muslims fast during Ramadan, but only from sunrise to sunset.
I can answer this without even listening to the video in one word: LIES!!!
An interesting and foolhardy response.
Without lies Islam dies 👌👌
@@nihinovumsubluna Objectively untrue, because Islam is built upon a mountain of lies
@@nihinovumsubluna It's not foolhardy if I know what I'm talking about.
These sound like playground arguments: "My *fast* can beat up your *fast.* " Dude, don't care. It's about the long haul.
Imagine being a muslim leader and strawmanning the lack of theological understanding of a young person.
Had to turn this off....couldn’t figure out what your point was....seemed to be pro-Islam....why?
LOL, great take - they were exposing that imam's conversion tactics, which were uber-lame; you'd know that much if you could at least watch the whole video, before criticizing the speakers, SMH...
The problem isn't just the lies of Islam but the despicable lack of education in this man's catechism. On top of this, the dawahgandists didn't tell him what happens to Islamic apostates before he took his blasphemous shahada.
Clearly the Christian fast is better because it is in honor of the One, True God.
1 Corinthians 15:1-4
Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Which fast is better? The Christian fast. During Lent, one should not eat meat or dairy products at all. For 40 days + Holy Week. In addition, we fast every Wednesday and Friday. That is the teaching of the ancient church - to this day in the East, and until Vatican II in the West.
Of course the rule can be relaxed or changed based on circumstances. This is also ancient church practice. One should consult with his priest. (I am speaking as an Orthodox. Roman Catholics as far as I can tell are now *required* to fast precisely one day per year - Good Friday.)
Many Muslims will not even drink a drop of water during the day during Ramadan, then gorge themselves gluttonously every day after sundown. That is not fasting at all.
The Muslims have a pharisaical attitude to fasting - following a rule makes one "holy", while they lose sight of the reason we even do the thing. Our Lord while on Earth condemned this time after time.
Fasting is a form of spiritual warfare. We are disciplining ourselves to resist temptation. Muslims (and many Christians) have no concept of what fasting is.
Why dont you do a experiment and try both.
As a muslim lemme tell ya that after like the first 3 days ur stomach starts to shrink and a glass of water will fill ya up when u break the fast.
Are there muslims who still eat a lot of food during ramadan yeah sure there are.
Also whats up with the weird comparisons , seems like you have some sort of insecurity. Trying to put muslims down to put yourself on top.
Dont worry. Abdool tried playing victim on my comment too
@@vc508 christians are the only perpetual victims lol
I have an analogy about the trinity where I compare the three parts of God to the three states of water; water itself, ice and vapour. All three can be identified as water, the only difference is the physical state. Similarly, God, though "divided" into three states is still identified as God. Does this explanation hold water ?
Many secular countries are in the subtle process of Islamization. People are more acceptance of Islam. Countless people are in marriage with Muslims and are converted into Islam to do so and all their children are brought into the Islamic religion. The muslim population is ever growing in many secular countries even when muslims are the minority group. They are attracting many converts although most convert to marry Muslims. Islamism is also on the rise. Many people even Christians are not aware of true Islamic teachings. Many do not even know we belong in the 'house of war' and muslims belong in the 'house of islam' as taught and believed by muslims. Christians are the most prosecuted religious group in the world and the world media often do not report or choose to report the victims as not Christians. Catholics need to pray, fast and make reparations to the Most Sacred Heart of Jesus and the Immaculate Heart of Mary for world conversion of sinners and ask unceasingly the intercession of all the Angels and Saints and our Blessed Virgin Mary to convert the hardened hearts of Catholics.
Muslim fast means you can eat whatever you fancy or like at the end of the day in whatever amount. Whereas Christian fast from their favourite foods for the entire Lent. That Christian fast is greater is a no brainer.
No! Not in whatever amount. Stop judging Islam based on the imperfect people. You don't do this in your own faith, such hypocrisy.
@@jaciemokidm609 when the Islamists stop making hypocritical comparisons, I stop.
They pray and fast like Jesus. After some research it seems he’s the second most important figure in Islam. He’s mentioned more in the Quran than anyone else so as a religion it certainly plays to that angle of inclusivity for those who want to follow all the prophets.
send this clip to Sonny Bill Williams so that he understands his blunder of converting to Islam!
@ 10:30 Love is Love Isn't that the justification the LGBT use for their convictions?
6:41 Yeah, like Gandalf didn't dare to face the Balrog but was replaced by Saruman in Moria.
Seriously, Christ had a more salvific job to do than to just send one more demon tumbling back down to hell, so a replacement wouldn't do it.
Jesus could not be a prophet. Jesus claimed to be God. He either is a liar, a crazy man, or He is who he says he is, the Son of God. There is no ambiguity. His life, His words force you to make a choice, and the choice of "prophet" simply is not available.
There is no problem in Christianity with the claim that Jesus was and is a prophet. The problem is in the claim that He was solely a human prophet. Christ has a 3-fold office as prophet, king, and priest and both He and His Apostles imply Him a prophet in Mark 6:4 and Acts 3:22.
Muslims have different understandings of what it means to be a prophet. In Christianity there is no problem with calling Jesus a prophet. We can even call other Christians prophets because they, as is abundantly clear in Saint Pauls letters, might have the gift of prophesy. Muslims simply take their understanding of what a prophet it is and read it into the New Testament to produce the desired effect. But if a prophet is someone who simply prophesies, then even God in the Qur'anic narrative is a prophet, as he makes prophecies like Rome defeating the Persians.
What is a prophet? One who prophesies and it comes to pass. Jesus is divine and took on human nature for a purpose. As the Word of God he was of course a Prophet
@@simzpilot704 The New Testament was written in Greek, and sure, the translation of the word "the Logos" in English is "the Word", but keep in mind that the word "Logos" has a much deeper meaning.
To put it into context, the Greek philosophers sought the Logos which on some level is the meaning of all things; On another level it means the wisdom which is the understanding of the meaning of all things; and a rudimentary level it means the words which are the revelation of the wisdom -the understanding of the meaning of all things.
In a nutshell Jesus was the meaning of all things; Prophets cannot be the meaning of all things -by definition. Although on some level prophets reveal revelation, but they always are revealing God as other, and not revealing themselves. Jesus was the revelation.
Love his honesty
No real Christian who has had a personal revelation and experience with Jesus would ever convert to Islam. Just being a church goer or professing Christian does not make you one.
Tyen we can pretty much sadly never truely be sure any one we consider a real christian is a real christian before we test them throughout their whole lives. How do i even know you are a real christian for example and not just as much misinforming me on what it means to be a real christian.
This is the problem. Many muslims say the same thing when christians evangelize succesfully so be wary
That conversion ‘technique’ sounds like a Derren Brown routine. I would call that deceptive and unbecoming of a Muslim.
Deception is part of islam
@@vc508 I respectfully disagree 🙂
As is your right
I am disappointed that the negative points about God, Jesus were not refuted and our faith brought to light in this video. They missed stating the rebuttles
I think what intrigued me on Catholicism was how chill my friends and acquaintances were. I asked them if someone burns bible, you will got mad or not. Mostly just simply answered, "They can burn our book, but faith remains strong. We don't need to kill people who do that or even mock God".
They even pray for those people.
My eyes were widely open since the Boston bombing back at 2013.
That’s because in Christianity, Jesus is the living word of God. In Islam, the Quran is the living word of God. Killing the Christ is the worst crime humanity has ever done and yet when Christ rose again, God forbade humanity and they were saved. In Islam, if you burn the Quran, it’s the equivalent of killing the Christ.
Oh Saracens...still time to convert to Christ's holy Catholic and apostolic Church ✝️
In Christ, every man is a word in the mouth of God so that all humanity becomes a song of love 🎵- St Charbel Makhlouf ✝️
Dear Catholics stay strong I don't compel anyone but I have more than three encounters with our Lady and indeed we are in the true path but one thing I know Fatma message is unveiling some nation will be alienated soon stay praying Holly Rosali without tired add Divine Mercy Rosalii daily four poor sinners and those who don't know the true we are in the end of great spiritual battle I saw it
The MOST important thing is to BE CATHOLIC and know our Catholic faith! Once you've done this then it will be impossible to fall away from our Rock! Remember the scripture: My people perish from a lack of knowledge - Hosea 4:6