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YOKOHAMA ADVAN AD09 👀 ARE THEY ANY GOOD?
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- Опубликовано: 21 янв 2023
- In the peak of last summer, we were asked by the guys at Yokohama UK to help them test the all new ADVAN Neova® AD09, their latest road legal track tyre.
At the time, the tested set were the only four AD09 tyres in the UK and due to Yokohama's strict marketing policy, we were unable to post anything about it on our social media. Fast forward 6 months, and the tyres are now available to purchase and our testing video can go live.
Watch as we put these head to head with their predecessor the AD08-RS!
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UK Stock is currently limited for some tyre sizes in the range but more will be available throughout the year.
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Great to see a replacement to the old AD08R and appreciate the thorough test on a powerful road car.
Good to see these are available in 17” wheels. So many performance tyres seem to stop at 18” so expect these to be a popular choice!
Good to see a worthy successor to the AD08 and the R. I'll be really interested to see how these stack up against the Nankang CR-S when they finally arrive
I'd love to watch your second take on track when rain and most definately a road test. Something like arrive on track and drive, please.
Love all your videos all your content is awesome!! 👌🏼👌🏼
the og od08r has a special place in my heart
Test driver, tyre engineer, mechanic, truck driver and social media super star, all in 40 degree heat. Impressive days work Ryan! 😂
Gotta leave something for the others to do...haha
ahhh. awesome news. i just ordered a set for the m135i... good to know they are the go to tires!
Hugely useful video!! Thank you 👍
I’ve had them on my evo 9 a few hundred kilometres now and they really suit evos because of their stiff side walls. Very sharp turn in.
Looking to get these for my Evo 9 on RPF1s.
Would be great seeing these up against AR-1 and AO52
Happy they come in 15”
Much bigger difference than I anticipated!
Well, the 08RS is or was not a good tire in my eyes anyway. Glad that it gets a update
And what made the AD08RS not a good tyre in your opinion? Reason of asking: was looking for the AD09, but not available in my required size, if at all, here in EU and the AD08RS (S because of specced up to EU certification) is an option, and if I read reviews, it's good, but I'd rather hear info from people who didn't like the tyre, ofter better arguments then a minor list of cons you see in reviews. Thanks in advance!
Jist mounted a set of AD09’s on my OEM 20” rims on a Porsche GT4. I also have Nankang AR-1’s on a set of 19’s. Anxious to compare times between them. I bought the AD09’s as a high performance street tire rather than a track day tire, but I will give them a session or two to see what’s what.
@scottoconnor3484 Any results yet? Sounds like interesting to hear
The AD09’s ran roughly the same lap times as my nearly done AR-1’s on a track where under 2:00 is OK, versus about 5-6 seconds faster on Pirelli DH Slicks.
AD09’s for the win 😉👍💪
I always wondered if BMW put the B57 6pot diesel into a 1 & 2 series, how fast would it have been ? Imagine a 135d or 235d with 308hp and 50mpg plus. And another 60hp if Darkside also tunned it.
We had an old coupe with a 335d. Was fun
I think with time when the engines are cheaper someone will defo do it.
how DARE you start a video with "so" and not "REYT THEN!"
I just add it in myself it makes me feel better
This was filmed for Yokohama in Europe and Japan so not really appropriate I didn't think
Belle vidéo 👌 😉. Super 👌 👍
Yoko need to bring back the mighty A048 💪
These re71rs or cup 2 connect for dry only canyon carving/jackassing around?Just about to pull the trigger 😬 (OG M2)
We'd personally say AD09's or A052's
Currently 0c outside for me. A long long way from that 39c day. I have to say, I prefer 0c to 39c any day. Glad the tyres were faster, any idea what the track temp was? 50c+?
I bet it wasn't far off! We just need around 20c all the time
The guy from yokohama measures it in the vid in the pits 46DegC
What PSI do you run with these tires , I’ve got a set of ad08rs and can’t get any enjoyment out of them so far
on the AD09's, hot tyre pressure is normally 29-31psi for us
How do these fari against advan apex? Idk which is the better sticky tire
Apex?
I’m looking to replace the tires on my e46 m3 I have the nitto invos right now it’s time to get new ones these are bald now
Drop us an email to sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk and we might be able to help you out ;)
Hi friend, what are the measurements of the wheels you used in this video?
Were they 17 or 18?
They are 18x8 ET35. Full spec list is here - www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/bmw-f21n-125d-b47-2-0-16v-cr-ga8hp-50z-8-speed-automatic/
Can you let me know what (hot) tyre pressures you were using?
Normally run around 29-31psi
Any indication on when they will come in 185/55-15 and 215/45(or40)-16? I am using 08RS now, and will change to 09 as soon as they come.
Not heard anything as of yet, only done 17"-20" so far
@@DarksideDevelopments OK, thanks. I will keep my eyes open.
Are these better than the ps4s for fast driving on hilly road? Thanks
100%
Be nice to compare the 9’s to the original 8’s what we thinking split down the middle?
Yeah in the middle, 8s will be vintage now otherwise we would have
@@DarksideDevelopments like a fine wine
Any information on when these will be available in AD08RS sizes like 225/40 R18 or 255/35 18 etc?
All the sizes available for the uk are on our website
@@DarksideDevelopments I already looked but not my size unfortunately :/ like nowhere, not even from Yokohama themselves
Blame the EU tyre regs!
hope it will be not as bad as the AD08RS. The AD08R was 10 times better than the RS.
There's a lot of improvement with the AD09's!
What were your cold pressures? Just got a set of these to run on my 458 for this season!
Wait a second, I saw 1.8bar? You were running these hot at 26PSI????
29psi Hot seems to be the sweet spot. Starting at 20psi should bring you close. Did you buy them from us?
@@DarksideDevelopments very interesting because I found an old forum post for the previous gen (ad08) and everyone says they try to run them at 36-38 hot….. why such the large discrepancy?
People cant be seriously running pressures like that!
@@DarksideDevelopmentsI just put these on my 718 GT4.
At least on the street , I do not agree with your hot pressures.
I have a few test on/off ramps near me and I see the highest cornering speeds and lateral G’s when the tires are about 33-34 PSI HOT (28 PSI COLD)
Below that and they roll over just a bit and I lose grip.
Can you put a 335d engine in these chassis?
It should fit fairly easily
So sad that Yokohama did the same failure again to offer them only up to 270 km/h.😥
You can go faster
@@DarksideDevelopments Not in Germany. My car needs (Y) tires, not just W.
Any idea when more sizes will be available in the uk please ? See you sell some already 😁
The only sizes we have available at the moment are on our website. They are a very limited supply but we should get more sizes throughout the year
@@DarksideDevelopments thanks, I’ll hold of a little hopefully by spring!
@@DarksideDevelopments do you know if you will get 205/50r15? I can't see them anywhere in the uk yet, I found them on an advan size chart though.
Some sizes wont meet EU regs :(
@@DarksideDevelopments nawww :(
What seats are they in the 125d? Look really nice.
Recaro Podium. Super comfortable
Have you ever tried any of the Nankangs?
NS2R and AR1 many times, these are faster than both
@@DarksideDevelopmentswhich is better? ns2r or the ad09?
How much are the ad09s vs ad08s..
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Video didn't start with a reet then !?!?! 🤣
Yokohama are utter nuts to not do the ad09 in smaller sizes than 17" a ton of the uk market inc me are 15" and they are not going to bother with us its madness
There were only limited sizes sent to the uk for now. More sizes should be coming throughout the year, starting form 15"
Edit - 17" is the smallest size that will be available in Europe
@@DarksideDevelopments interesting as they have said elsewhere they are not doing smaller than 17” hope your right though as my original Ad08r’s are near dead and not sure what to replace them with
Email us with your size and we can get numbers to Yokohama UK
How's the noise on this tire? I'm interested in running these on my mk8 golf r daily.
They don't seem too bad, certainly not AR1's!
@@DarksideDevelopments As long as they are quieter than the tortured, screaming banshee, Federal RS-RRs I will be happy!
@@LS1conehead🤣
But in wet, AD08-RS are better ?
I would say not, AD09 are good but not A052 Good
what harness are you running?
Schroth Profi 2x2 6 Point Harness - www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/schroth-profi-2x2-6-point-harness.html
Got the full spec list for the car here - www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/bmw-f21n-125d-b47-2-0-16v-cr-ga8hp-50z-8-speed-automatic/
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Meanwhile i am happy with my 10$ cracked Ad07 :) They don't wear as fast as street Bridgestones
How long do these tires last
We have had a set of 265s on various cars for track days and races, hard to say how many miles, but way more than we would get from a set of A052s and they are still quick. They seem a great trackday tyre
ad08rS not the same as ad08R, rS slower. So it need to be compare with ad08R and A052
R tyres are way too old now. A052 comparison happening next week
@@DarksideDevelopments super!!!!! Will wait for test!
052 2-3s faster or slower than AD09?
52 is faster
REYT THEN
the AD08RS were so bad that I complained with Yokohama which advertised them as track day tires. They were slower than my old PS4 on my car on track. Not a scientific test for sure but still. I have never driven on the AD08R but I have heard good things about them. Unfortunately in Europe given all these green regulations it's getting harder and harder to find a 17 inch track tire. The AD09 would be my N1 choice but Yokohama Europe is not importing many size available in Japan. They don't even bother to reply to e mail asking if they will ever import them. I would need 215/45 17 and 245/40 17. I will try out the Nankang AR1 next since the A052 are crazy expensive for how long (should I say short) they last. There are no other semi-slick aside for the TOYO R888R in these sizes. Yokohama said they were planning to expand their business operation in Europe. Weird way to do it. Nice test you guys did, the AD09 seems a superb product just marketed and sold in a terrible way
So sad, I live in teh EU too and wanted to buy the rs, bus just heared bad things about them…
Are they really that bad?
I guess it all depends on what s your reference. If it's your first UHP tire you might still find them more than acceptable but there is no point in buying them over any modern UHP tire of any brand really, I m sure they are the worse, a now very old design with ecological rubber formula only to match the requirement of the european legislation. For sure they were worse than my PS4 and PS5 which are not the tire I d like to use since they are not extremely sporty but my car has a 245/40-17 tire at the rear which is very hard to find (no 4s available in that size nor cup 2 nor any other very sporty tire aside from the potenza sport now which are very good on the road but disintegrate on track after a few laps). For more sporty performance and some track day usability I had to move to a semi slick tire which I have now used for 3000km (Nankang AR1). I still have the Goodyear F1 left to try since they have the measurement for my car but having tried a semi slick it's gonna be hard to go back. The AD09 would be my ideal rubber but it's not available in Europe on my car s tire size which is a shame since on their website they claimed they wanna develop their business in europe@@ayanami5610 I'd buy the AD009 in a heartbeat if they were available but long story short buy anything UHP but the AD08RS
@@massimilianozeni1848 thank you very much for your answer!
I have the problem with sizes too. My car need 225/50r16 and the other 185/60r14 wich are very hard to find aside from yokohama.
I tried a normal street tire but it absolutely killed the feeling of the car. Way to soft sidewalls!
But I don‘t drive trackdays just mountainpasses and want a good feedback from the tires. I thought about getting the A052 but the are so expansive…
Chaoyang are the de facto best brand, the chinese are almost as good at tyres as laundry these days. I'm under 2.00 mins at the same track in my 1.0 Fabia running 320/15s on 26" rims. The trick is to season the tyres in donkey semen for a week and scrub them in round B&Q before a track day, remember where you heard it lads.
I prefer linglong tyres to be fair
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Where do you find donkey semen in the uk?
@@ahyaan2552 you shout "cum here donkey" 😂
HOLY MOTHER OF RUBBER!! How the hell are they over 5.5 seconds quicker??!?!!?!?!!!?!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤
Compound and tread are miles better and the wall is a lot stronger reducing rollover
@@DarksideDevelopmentsyeah but that time is making the AD08RS look like a touring tyre, not the tyre the AD09 replaced.
its known to be a terrible tyre!
@@DarksideDevelopments oh okay, so is the AD08R more comparable to the AD09?
Lastly, what width was your rim and tyre?
What language is he talking?
One of the most complex and difficult to learn languages known to human kind...Yorkshire!
Ah😂ok I will give it a try.
why are you ignoring my comment?
Monday is our busiest day, we have 5 people answering emails and 1 responding to RUclips comments. If it's urgent, email is better.
My god, could you just, for one second, use different music. I felt like I was literally going to go mad watching this.
We think it's a good song and suited the video...could turn it down?
The AD09's are not good, they are Great!