This Table Saw Broke the Internet | Evolution R255TBL+
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- Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
- I review the Evolution R255TBL+ table saw that sold out almost instantly upon release.
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Chapters
0:00 - Coming Up
0:22 - What's included?
1:55 - Features
5:05 - Accuracy & Calibrations
6:07 - Test cuts
6:39 - Model comparison
7:22 - Pros & Cons
8:40 - Should you buy it?
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This has an insane amount of features for the money - impressive! Nice review mate.
Yes it does! Thanks 🙏
Excellent video review and it looks like a great value for money saw, thanks.
Thanks 🙏
I purchased the rage 5s only 6 months ago and gutted i didnt wait as it looks like all the niggles have mainly been addressed. Great review and loving your videos!
Ah gutted! Thanks so much! 🙏
And don't forget that when you make a warranty claim DO NOT tell evolution that you have been using a non evolution blade. Any blade other than theirs voids any warranty claim 🤦🏻
Great tip! I didn’t know that!
That is a reason in itself not to buy this one, Im going to skip this one then, back to drawing board.
@@jeremymmoraw for me I'll really think I'll end up with the hikoki plus the 240v power pack, yes it'll cost about £150 more but it also has a five year warranty and a battery option for later if ever needed.
back in stock
really good review.
Glad you enjoyed it 🙏
I was about to buy the rage 5 just as this came out its great it ate it’s way through some 4”x4” Cocobolo just using the multi blade accuracy of the fence is spot on 😊
That’s lucky, you did well to get one before they sold out!
Nice bit o kit that. ALMOST makes me wish I had waited a year before pulling the trigger on the Rage 5-s. Short of the horrible dust collection on it, it works. Does what I need it to do and hasn't missed a beat since coming out of the box. All that said, doesn't mean I'm no drooling over that saw! Take care & stay safe M8.
The RAGE-5 is still a decent saw! But they’ve certainly taken on board everyone’s feedback in this latest version. 😀
Eventually the gears to wind the blade up and down and to set the angle will start to wear and slip- I’ve had mine a couple of years now and it’s very annoying
I use a set of evolution saws to make hundreds of cuts in 1/4” angle iron a month. I can’t speak more highly of the metal 14” saws. Have both.
Great feedback, thanks! 🙏
Just purchased mine on ToolDen UK 👍 There's x2 units left in stock as I write.
Nice one!
looks awesome. quick question. when not being used on a mobile 'trolley' can the saw be bolted down to a fixed work surface?
A good table saw. I used to have the other model but I went over to Bosch Pro site saw and will never part with it as it's a very robust saw and never done me wrong and it's built like a Brick **** House. 😁😁😁😁 Great video thank you for sharing..
Haha 😂 and thanks 🙏
To my that looked less than stable, not impressed ! Just gimmicks that aren’t tough enough for real work.
It looks like an evolution of the Metabo HPT saw of which I use an offshoot of. That sliding bit of the table looks very enticing if it's done well and the tracks don't clog with sawdust. Also the miter adjustment knob if it's like the one on mine isn't so nice as the locking mechanism can throw off any micro adjustment you make. I'd like to check it out here in Canada but it's doubtful I'll get the chance.
So far the sliding panel hasn't clogged up, it's going strong. I've used it a lot during my workshop build as am so far very impressed by it!
great saw
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This seems very, very similar to the Skil jobsite saw with a bunch of extra features. Very interesting.
Yes I think that’s a perfect summary of this saw!
A perfect Sumeray?
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Ok so looking at the riving knife it can not be lowered to blade height? So for doing non through cuts it would need to be completely removed? Its been said by others that in the manual it alludes to the riving knife having the ability to be adjusted to blade height, i guess just by looking at the slot in the knife it can not go any lower?
I had just put the Rage up against the Skil. Now this popped up.
I think the rage and skil are 500 bucks here.
Even seeing this i think the skil might be the go?
Im just starting innto wood work as a hobbyist.
Thanks for vid..good stuff covered what i needed to know.
PS...dont mention the riving knife..blade thingo..😉
I'd personally go for this over the SKIL. The SKIL is very loud and doesn't have soft start. I'm making a video soon comparing them.
Does this saw take a dado stack and how wide a dado? Also if you raise the blade to do a rabbet does the blade stay at that height
Thru the whole cut?
Hey Mike! So... Evo aren’t certified in the UK and EU to say that the saw can take a dado stack. Could it? Theoretically yes, but like I say, they can’t advise it for legal reasons.
The blade would stay at the same height though.
Now I really tough question.
Shoud I buy this table from evolution or the dewalt dwe 7845?
I already have one but is garbage , the angle is never good or it takes too much time to adjuste , so noe that I have the buget for "real" tools I would go for the Best (dewalt everey body prise it) but this one looks to be a lil bit better for some features (that extra hinge for crosscuts). So witch one should I got for ( my opinios for right now would stilul be the dewalt because i know i wont be dissapointed)
That’s what I’d like to know too
It's a difficult question to answer, I'm currently planning a comparison video for the Evoluton, SKIL & DeWalt. I've also just posted a community poll which I'd be interested to get your thoughts on! Stay tuned!
Nooice!
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Would you recommend this over the dewalt dwe 7485
It’s too early for me to make that call. I’ve not used the Evolution much beyond initial testing and the DeWalt has stood the test of time (2 years so far).
The evolution certainly offers better value for money and more features. The build quality is also good, but I think uses slightly cheaper materials than the DeWalt.
It’s certainly between this and the Dewalt for me.
It looks and sounds brilliant, but... my experience of Evolution matches that of others: quality control. Get lucky, you have a near perfect tool for a stunning price. Get unlucky, and you'd better not have an important job to do while you return it and eke out a bit more life out of your old one. I suspect it's safest to wait till rebuilt returns go on sale so they will have made sure they work properly.
Like all prosumer tools, OK for DiYer who is able to identify faults and get them rectified or the professional who doesn't use that tool all the time. As a retired DiYer who is time rich but cash not rich, I'd look at it, maybe try a refurb version to replace my current almost junk Rutland Tools ultra-cheap model. But I'd probably end up saving up for DeWalt corded if it still does well in reviews by new purchasers (they seem to have given up on their corded tools in last 5 years). It often only takes a couple of DiY jobs to cover the cost of a pro tool compared with hiring a pro to do the job (if you can find a good one)
If they're a similar price would you pick the skil or this?
It's a difficult question to answer, I'm currently planning a comparison video for the Evoluton, SKIL & DeWalt. I've also just posted a community poll which I'd be interested to get your thoughts on! Stay tuned!
How will the free blade offer work Jack? cool review btw
It’s a free general wood blade when you buy the saw via Evolutions website using the link in the description. (I’ll add it soon)
@@sumeraybuilds cheers pal
DAMN that was amazing until the end with the floppy hose. I mean after ALL that micro fitting of accessories, that dangling hose just really brought that whole thing down :[
Great review!
😂 yeah but at least it’s a small thing
@@sumeraybuilds it's a minor thing sure but it actually looked dangerous
How do you rate this against the dewalt table saw. I have an SIP 10" table saw at the mo and am looking for an upgrade. Even my table isn't flat
It’s in 2nd place of all the table saws I’ve tested. Dewalt is still no 1!
@@sumeraybuilds Was looking at prices earlier and think with my budget I would have to go for the Evolution to be honest
All about power features can be achieved with any table saw
I haven't seen the outfeed table before.
01:23 you show the mitre gauge then you put a clamp on it and proceed to clamp a piece of wood down to the table saw bed which if i’m not mistaken then prevents you from actually using the mitre gauge because it’s clamped and wont slide
Watch further and you'll see the reason for that.
I cover this later in the video
Is the motor direct (or gear drive) or belt drive? Thank you…
I have no idea! 😂 Gear I would guess...
How do you rate this against the Skil, you reviewed earlier?
This one (+ model) is better. The soft start on the motor, the sliding panel and the outfeed table mean that’s it’s very hard to make an argument for the SKIL.
Awesome. Thanks! Keep up the great content. Looking forward to seeing what you do in your new space!
I bought a car once they included 4 wheels - any table saw includes a riving knife, a blade guard. But a push stick WOW!
😂 not everyone knows that!
Rebranded Skil TS6307-00 with some very minor changes.
Yeah I think so...
Are the mitre slots the same size as each other?
Great review as always!!
Looking forward to the Workshop progression 👍
Yes they are! I should have mentioned that in the video, my bad!
Hoping to have the ‘Flat Roof Episode’ ready for next week 😀
@@sumeraybuilds Do you know if the mitre slots are more standard sizing so can use after market mitre gauges? If i remember correctly the Rage had unusual sizing
@soul146 yes they’re standard sizes so works with off market accessories 👍
Looks just like my Skil tablesaw
Both are a great choice!
How does this compare to the Skill table saw ?!
I think this one is better, I'm making a comparison video soon!
I own the skil. So good but too loud. That is my only gripe with skil. A perfectly calibrated skil is the perfect saw.
I have had a few evolution saws but I was not that impressed. I found the fence useless, the mitre gauge was sloppy and the motor shaft always had a wobble to it. The table was not flat and the mitre slots were not parallel to the blade even after adjusting. I think it would be good for site carpentry where crappy cuts do not matter so much. If you are doing finishing work or have business aspirations then I would probably spend a bit more and go for something else
I truley believe they've stepped up with this latest version. The higher price means that's getting a lot more competitive with thewir build quality and features offered.
How much
It's £399 but the basic model is cheaper. It's worth checking online as prices vary and some places offer deals.
My internet still works
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pls spend the extra 50 pounds soley for the soft start its a genuine safety and life improvement and more likely wont trip ur motor with the spike up in power draw
Totally agree!
There's a lot of Dewalt in that saw.
I agree!
I'll never understand why they insist on using such a fine thread for their clamps. Have to twist twist twist all day to cinch it down.
That's a fair point!
It’s an upgraded dewalt
It very much is!
It's not sold out and unavailable on the internet as claimed, to the point the title is practically clickbait! Its available at FFX, scott direct and amazon to name 3.
Cant understand all the excitement for a chinese copy of the dewalt. Rutlands also does a copy under their own badge and thats the cheapest of them all.
It was sold out at the time!
Change the mitre gauge straight away. It’s not good
That's true if you need something precise. I think there's a large % of people who just need it to do less accurate cross cuts in whcih case the one provided is fine.
I am thinking of getting a new saw, should I buy this one. Not pro, just D.I.Y.er
This would certainly be a solid choice and a very above average starter table saw!
So a orange Dewalt......
Pretty much!
To Any one thinking about buying a table saw. Buying any thing less than a dewalt. Dose not makes sense. This table saw costs 300 to 400 euro. The dewalt costs 500 to 640 euro. The dewalt to a much better saw. It has a rack and pinion fence. I took it out of the box and had to adjust nothing.
I thought about buying the evolution. But then I realised. That if I did I was only going to buy the dewalt eventually.
This also has a rack and pinion sense btw. But I hear you about the Dewalt, it’s a solid saw!
Why is it a much better saw?
Sounds like you paid 300 euros extra to not adjust 2 things 😂
@@joe123452 Why you think it’s a better build? Just because of the brand? That’s not a given.
1 minute into the video and credibility is gone... you don't know what a riving knife is for....
What do you think it’s for?
It’s to prevent wood from twisting or pinching on the back side of the blade which would cause it to ride up the blade and kick back at you. Not just small offcuts, but some rather large ones too
To greatly reduce the risk of kick back which is caused by slightly tilting the work piece causing the rising teeth on the back to fling the piece back at you with a huge force.
The thing that prevents small things being flung at you is a zero-clearance insert.
The raving knife on this one is not that optimal because you can't make dados while having it on (it's longer than the blade). The saw I have has two raving knives, one with the guard and one without which matches the height of the blades.
@@Pygexif i’m not mistaken all table saws in the Uk have an arbor which doesn’t not allow the use of dado stacks as they are deemed dangerous
@@sumeraybuilds A riving knife decreases the risk of pinching and kickback in LARGE workpieces, it prevents your workpiece pinching the blade. Small off cuts can still be launched towards you simply by being next to the blade. The drag from a spinning blade can suck small pieces against the blade and still shoot them back. the riving knife does virtually nothing to protect you from small offcuts.
That mitre fence is pure garbage as they always are with these contractors saw.
I think many find it works for basic stuff. But you’re right, all table saws at this price range tend to include inferior mitre gauges compared to some of the 3rd party ones.
so this is aimed at noobs who dont know any better. got it. Those who know, you know.
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Basically copyed Skil and made it beter
Very true!
Looks cheap !
Fair enough!
Hope it's better than all the other scrap they manafacture
It’s deffo a step up