Hi All, I hope you enjoyed the video! I would love to hear your thoughts on the scoring system I used in this video. I'm thinking about using it in future reviews so any feedback for refinement would be awesome! Thanks, Jack
Well yesterday I decided to purchase the Evolution only to be totally bummed. The new model is only sold in the UK not the states. I spoke in great length with a customer service guy who was awesome to talk with. I learned a lot. Evolution was founded in Sheffield England. They are as large as De Walt or Milwaukee. I was told they may have that model here by Feb 2025. I’m upset as I was so looking forward to purchasing the new model. The Rage 5 model simply doesn’t cut it for me ( pun intended). Just thought ppl might enjoy this fact. Thank you young man. 👍🏼👍🏼
Hi. As a professional joiner and kitchen installer I bought the Dewalt and that is not because most of my tools are Dewalt but I have my own home workshop. As good as the Evolution is, it has plastic cogs for adustments etc and by the way this is the only thing that lets it down because these cogs potentially could wear and cause everything to lose accuracy. I did look at this machine 2 months ago.
Thanks for sharing. I don't find the plastic to be an issue on the Evo, Plus Dewalt has plastic too. But I agree that Dewalt has their reputation which Evolution will very much struggle to compete with.
You made a good point, otherwise I would have agreed with the conclusion from @sumeraybuilds, considering the included cross cut sled and fine miter adjustment wheel on Evolution 😀
For real! I’m glad I found this video. I’m in research to buy one and I was already sold to evolution but at the end dewalt just makes better quality I can be sure it will last long and work best
I just bought the Skil saw. My first table saw so gonna be fun. My saw was ready out of the box, 1 screw to fasten and the rest was square. Big plus for me is the size so i can store it easily without bulky wheels and stand.
Very helpful - not sure when I'll ever get space to have a table saw, but now I know where to start looking. Calibration out of the box is great, but the learning and understanding you get from doing this yourself is very valuable. That's my experience from setting up my mitre saw and having done a 'proper' calibration of my circular saw & electric hand planer has been very beneficial to understanding the tool.
My Skil TS6307-00 has the metal insert, has a 3 5/8"(92.08 mm) depth of cut, and it's not loud. Looks like Skil listened to customers and made everything right. It does everything I need it to do; the only thing it lacks is wheels. It has folding legs and is light and compact making it easy to load/setup/store, so the lack of wheels isn't an issue. I got mine on sale for $269, a better saw for the money would be incredibly difficult to find.
As an amateur I purchased the einhell, it's good enough to start with, but would be good to see a video showing what improvements you'd make and how to for those without a 300 budget
Yes to DeWalt 7485, I just got it! At first I bought the Skil, I was very disappointed with alignment problems for the fence, it was very flimsy / unstable and hard to adjust. Skil's table top is not flat (DeWalt is not flat also), miter gage is made of metal, Skill had a terrible miter gage made of plastic. I returned Skil after using it for two month and got DeWalt instead. Two things I like about the Skill is it's legs and look of the product. I love that DeWalt is smaller, well aligned straight out of the box and I like 8 1/4" thinner blade more now. DeWalt was on sale for $329 at Lowe's here in LA so I end up paying only $20 over Skill price. Hope it works well for me.
The DeWalt is a great saw, something I didn't factor into this video was it's overall size. I'm considering building a workbench with an embedded table saw and the DeWalt will work best for that cause of it's smaller profile.
Great honest and down to earth review. Started my tool buying experience with Evolution but I think if I chose a saw I would go with the Dewalt (just for the smaller footprint). Unfortunately I have had the Metabo TS216 sitting in my workshop for 3 years, I have never even switched the thing on as it is just a shockingly poor piece of c… and costs more than the Dewalt or Evolution.
In the US, the Dewalt is almost double the price of the Skil. But at least right now it's hard to find the 10 inch Dewalt without the stand. The Dewalt is $650 and the Skil is $350. Both can be found on sale but still, it makes the Skil much more attractive.
@@stanleeharvey Well the Skil is considered so good in the US because of quality vs price, not because it's the best jobsite saw available. The DeWalt is widely considered the best jobsite saw, so if it's a similar price to Skil in the UK, I'd say just get the DeWalt.
@spizzlo Ahh I see, that makes sense because I've been watching American youtube reviews say it is the best bang for buck. After watching this review and reading your comment, I'm going to go for the dewalt or evolution. Cheers
Of the four you've tested I think I'd go for the evolution and think you nailed why it's better value for money then the dewalt, although that's also a great saw! I have the Rutlands and by all accounts its identical to the skil (i've heard rumour they're even produced in the same factories) but is cheaper at about £295. Had it for about 3 months and can't complain so far!
The remodeled Skil saw has a metal plate. I would advise you to add that to your videos so beginners aren't turned off by it. The plate is metal now, at least on mine. Also, the saw is calibrated from the factory now.
I bought the Dewalt after one of your previous videos explained the quality and ease of use. It was my first TS purchase, and it's been amazing. Like yours, perfect out of the box and ready to go. I do think the build quality is far superior to the evolution products, and you also get a 3 year warranty. The mitre gauge is absolutely crap though!
I do agree that the DeWalt's build quality is superior that Evo the majority of the time. But for their latest table saw I really do think they've stepped up to the DeWalt standard. To be clear, this is not the case for their previous saw (RAGE 5)
The Evolution came out just a week later I purchase the Dewalt... It almost made me cancel my order 😂 Great price and ton of features for an honbbist. I'm definitely happy with my saw but if I had to buy one now, I'd surely try the new Evo
Thanks Jack. I'm still in the warranty for the Rage 5-s so there's that to consider. Another point to consider maybe the availability of different saw blades for each. And the ever present Dust collection! Take care & stay safe.
I have the DeWalt and it's been a great saw, but I have to say if the Evolution had been available when I bought, I probably would have gone for that one instead. Looks like a great value. Evolution seems like kind of a weird company, though. They seem to have just showed up out of nowhere here in the US in the last few years, and I thought they must have a UK or EU origin. But their website says they are headquartered in IA, USA? Is that just a headquarters for the US branch, I wonder? Their website has no info about the company history or ownership. I will say last year I bought their cold-cutting chop saw for cutting metal pieces and it's been brilliant. Clean cuts without the risk of burns or warping, and a lot easier cleanup than all dust and powder produced with an abrasive saw. Great review!
Evolution originates from Sheffield in the UK in 1992, but we have several locations around the globe, including Davenport and Chicago in the US and others through Europe and Asia. We have been selling products in the US for nearly 20 years but mainly focused on the Blue range of Steel industrial products, we are beginning to grow slowly with the Orange range of professional/DIY products. The industrial products are still the bulk of our business and our reputation is tied to this.
@@piprog Hi Yes it is going to be available in the EU, I believe if it is not already it will very shortly be available via Evolution France website and other outlets like Leroy Merlin.
Your pricing is quite interesting with an ocean between us. Here in the U.S. or at least where I am located, the Skil is the cheapest, then the DeWalt, then the Evolution or at least its closest relative. Good video!
I suspect the SKIL & DeWalt are built in the US whereas the Evo is built in the UK. I don't know that for sure but it would make sense given the difference in cost.
Bought skill one for around 200 eur, so around 170 pounds. So it seems it was a steal. Good saw, a little bit underpowered, but still it is all what beginner needs.
Cracking video Jack must say I think out the 3 I agree with the way you leant although I've only used the DeWalt but I think there is a 4th contender the Rutlands saw. Comes in less than the 3 main players and imo stands up with the 3 of them that's what I ended up getting and wow mind blown to be fair. 🏴👍
I have seen a couple of reviews on the Rutland saw and agree that it does look very good and competitive because I haven’t tested it firsthand I didn’t include it here (and the fact that I don’t actually have it) perhaps I’ll get the chance to review it in the future. Thanks for the comment. I’m glad you enjoyed the video. 🙏
@@sumeraybuilds no worries mate a must say I've not pushed it yet planning building it into a bench /out feed kinda like what mark at startmaking did but from what I've done with it so far it's spot on. Out the box needed nothing. My only gripe about it is with the blade guard you can't get less than 50mm from the fence to the blade but a think that's pretty standard. Hopefully you get your hands on it some point it's a great saw at decent budget 🏴👍
Another great video Jack - I’m committed to working on my hand tools skills before I indulge in buying a table saw, but the way you show off that DeWalt makes it very tempting. Maybe you’ve got another career on the shopping channel too….!
I have been looking for a new table saw and was torn between the rutland and evolution. Think the evolution + is the better option for the extra features, especially with a built in out feed table. Good review.
I'm from portugal and i got the skill for 300ish Euros, and has been now for 290ish. and mine came pretty much calibrated even with the plastic plate. but hey, different countries different prices... Evolution and dewalt here are incredible insane prices wise (400+ 500+ 600+ euros)
@@sumeraybuilds I don't think it's the bigger issue here, I believe it's more a demand and supply thing. Portugal isn't a strong carpenter demand. Sure we need doors and frames and whatnot, but houses are made or brick and cement and inner walls if not the same way, they are made of plasterboard (or whatever name it is 😅) and the studs are made of thin metal "railings", usually shaped in "U" and when connected together they are pretty strong, so need for 2x4 or something like that. Therefore all based woodworking tools are less in demand that UK, USA for what it seems to be
prices are wildly different in US. Skill table saw is actually easy to find, even at local Lowes hardware stores and amazon for 269$ on sale. The dewalt is 650$, Skil without a doubt is the best buy in the states.
That's so much cheaper than it is over this side of the ocean! Hopefully SKIL sort their s**t out and start stocking it in stores over here. That would change the ranking I gave it.
Jack, could you tell me the dimensions between the feet of the Evolution r255tbl+ as mine arrives monday after a long wait and I'd like to be ahead regarding the measurements required to support the saw safely.
@@sumeraybuilds No worries Jack, it was just an off chance question. Mind you, now that it's here, I can't remember myself what the dimensions are and I only measured it yesterday 🤣🤣🤣
I wanted to check prices in the US because the price of the Skil seemed off. In the US the skil is $269 at Lowe’s the Evolution saw you used apparently isn’t available in the US but a very similar one is $499 on their website and the DEWALT is $549 at Lowe’s Also, this was not an apples to apples comparison. The DeWalt and the evolution saw our professional job site saw. The skill is marketed and promoted as a saw for beginner woodworkers andDIYers!
Yeah the price might be quite different over your side of the pond. I take your point about not being apple to apples in terms of price but these are all table saws that people often consider and this video aims to explain what the extra cost buys you.
I have skil because it was cheaper i think twice than dewalt in my country. I change the blade for more tooth than skil have on it. What can i sayd. Works good. The stand (legs) are okay. Maybe wigle ehen you have to cut a bigger and harder wood like ash or similar. But for the price its good for me.
I am from Lithuania. When i buy skil 1340 AA the price was 229€. And normas price is 299€. But dewalt is more expensive here. Price starts something like 600€ without stand. 🙌
Nice video. I'm looking to purchase a table saw, and it would seem the Evolution 255 is my favorite. However, I'm quite suspicious of there being only a multi-material blade and the saw with a one inch arbor. That I can find, blades fitting a one inch arbor are virtually non-existent. What kind of cut quality does the multi-material blade produce in wood, as that is what I'll be using it for?
Du vergleichst wie Engländer, und natürlich gewinnt eine UK Maschine. Nehm die Einhell TP-CC 10 kostet genauso wie DeWalt und wirst du sehen welches platz bekommen DeWalt, Skill und Evolution.
Real pity you didn't included the Excel table saw. None of the four saw reviewed can compete against it IMHO. Its an excellent saw, 254mm blade, rack and pinion fence, soft start and ~£200, its occasionally on sale on Amazon for less than £200.
All of these saws are made in China, some even with the same parts. I have a 14 inch Evolution chop saw and couldn’t be happier with it. I was ready to purchase the Skill until I found the Evolution. The new model has more great features. Now older models leave much to be desired however the improvements have addressed all those issues. Now one negative is if all your cutting is wood I believe the Skill is better. Now if your like me and cut aluminum and steel ( even certain plastics) you simply can’t beat the Evolution. The key is the speed and their blade design. Now for wood I would use a different blade though. Great review 👍🏼👍🏼
I still find it a hard choice between the Skil and the Evolution. The plastic or metal throatplate doesn't matter to me. So 5 points for both, 5 for accuracy and 3 points for ease of use, eventhough it doesn't matter to me. Calibration is an one time hassle. But then the features: The Evo get full points because of the sliding panel and the outfeed. But an even bigger sliding panel aka saw sled is easy and cheap to make. The Skil doesn't have both, so a deduction, but also gets one for noise. But when I looked into the specs, the Evo also makes enough noise for me to wear hearing protection. So I give 1 point difference between them, because of the outfeed and sled. 4 for Skil, 5 for Evo. But here's the kicker. The Skil has those legs and is cheaper. I can only get the Evo on Amazon and it isn't available with the stand and the stand on it's own, also isn't available. The Skil is (In the netherlands) 31,5 euro's cheaper (26,5 pounds/35 dollars) and comes with those legs. 1 point extra for Skil, so now they're even. And last but not least, I don't have any free space, so I need to store it behind our bicycles and other stuff in a shed, where I don't work. Space is an issue and the Evo looks bigger to store then the Skil. So with this, the legs and a bit cheaper, the Skil is the winner in my comparison. But the outfeed and the convenience of the sliding panel is soooo hard to ignore. I'm damaging my brain over this decision!
It sounds like you’ve put a lot of thought into it. And even though I have rated this myself it is just my opinion based on my own experience and requirements. As you say, if the SKIL is much cheaper then that makes a big difference. The lack of soft start is the biggest loss over the Evolution. But either way, you’ll have a great table saw! Good luck with your decision and let me know what you end up deciding!
@@sumeraybuilds Thanks for your reply. The Skil is cheaper, but in the end I don't mind paying a bit more (within reason) for something that's worth it. In this case the sliding panel and the outfeed. I didn't think about the soft start of the Evo, because to be honest. I don't quite understand it. I know it gently starts the motor, but that's about it. My father has an old tablesaw from back in the day, like from the 70's or something. It is a big metal abomination with a (I think) single phase motor as big as a turkey and a huge sawblade which makes it almost shred anything thinner then a 2x4. This is the only one he has and so I have never worked (hobby-work) with a smaller soft start saw, besides my plunge saw. So I don't know what it brings in use to be honest. Also, is the sliding panel that much of a convenience or did you end op using a saw sled anyway?
@Narfs think of is as the motor slowly starts over a few seconds vs full power straight away. Starting slow means the machine gradually speeds up and therefore doesn’t move a few mm vs without which is instantly load and feels a bit scary. It doesn’t affect the overall performance though
@@sumeraybuilds Thanks again. Maybe this is the better choice for me. Eventhough it doesn't affect overall performance, what you said in your previous message, 'The lack of soft start is the biggest loss over the Evolution', kind of stands out when coming from someone who used, tested and compared multiple table saws (included the commonly praised DWE7485). I know what you mean with the kind of scary shock when turning the saw on and the wiggle it brings to the table. Not knowing the diffrence between those starts and you saying the above, makes me think I underestimate the difference a lot. I also don't have depth perception because I'm blind on 1 eye, so more then once this made me damage the material. To explain, I'm having a hard time seeing how far away things are from eachother. I see contact and I see space. Just not how much space and so a lot of unpredicted and sudden contact. Start the saw and with the grabbing of the material a slight movement BANG! against that spinning sawblade 😅 Maybe the soft starts makes this a bit less drastic, so now I'm really leaning towards the Evo 😉
evoluution for me never cut true was wonky and wobbly on moving platforms, where a dewalt never let me down , did any 1 els find this ? i returne dit in a rage
The ebrauer (Screwfix and other kingfisher brands) one is exactly the skil one. I got it for 260 euros (220 pounds) as there are always sales on. Offical price in France is 299 euros new. That is your clear winner in terms of value for money! And basically all you need for a diyer. If not I agree 100% on all you said 😊
I really wanted this video to get across that the SKIL, DeWalt and Evo are all great saws, especially for a DIYer who won't be using it often. But when push comes to shove I wanted to make a clear arguement for which one, I believe, comes out on top. The SKIL is an awesome saw, as I said in my dedicated review, you made a great choice especially considering what you ended up paying.
DeWalt would be the only professional saw. The others are entry level or hobbyist. If a contractor turned up at my house and not have any of the big three I wouldn't let them work.
Hi All, I hope you enjoyed the video! I would love to hear your thoughts on the scoring system I used in this video. I'm thinking about using it in future reviews so any feedback for refinement would be awesome! Thanks, Jack
Well yesterday I decided to purchase the Evolution only to be totally bummed. The new model is only sold in the UK not the states. I spoke in great length with a customer service guy who was awesome to talk with. I learned a lot. Evolution was founded in Sheffield England. They are as large as De Walt or Milwaukee. I was told they may have that model here by Feb 2025. I’m upset as I was so looking forward to purchasing the new model. The Rage 5 model simply doesn’t cut it for me ( pun intended). Just thought ppl might enjoy this fact. Thank you young man. 👍🏼👍🏼
Hi. As a professional joiner and kitchen installer I bought the Dewalt and that is not because most of my tools are Dewalt but I have my own home workshop. As good as the Evolution is, it has plastic cogs for adustments etc and by the way this is the only thing that lets it down because these cogs potentially could wear and cause everything to lose accuracy. I did look at this machine 2 months ago.
Thanks for sharing. I don't find the plastic to be an issue on the Evo, Plus Dewalt has plastic too. But I agree that Dewalt has their reputation which Evolution will very much struggle to compete with.
You made a good point, otherwise I would have agreed with the conclusion from @sumeraybuilds, considering the included cross cut sled and fine miter adjustment wheel on Evolution 😀
probably the best cut to the chase tool reviewer on the net. Nice work pal
Wow, high praise indeed! thanks! 🙏
For real! I’m glad I found this video. I’m in research to buy one and I was already sold to evolution but at the end dewalt just makes better quality I can be sure it will last long and work best
I just bought the Skil saw. My first table saw so gonna be fun. My saw was ready out of the box, 1 screw to fasten and the rest was square. Big plus for me is the size so i can store it easily without bulky wheels and stand.
Good choice, you’ll love it!
Very helpful - not sure when I'll ever get space to have a table saw, but now I know where to start looking. Calibration out of the box is great, but the learning and understanding you get from doing this yourself is very valuable. That's my experience from setting up my mitre saw and having done a 'proper' calibration of my circular saw & electric hand planer has been very beneficial to understanding the tool.
I do agree that learning how to calibrate a table saw is a great skill to master! Glad you found the video helpful! 🙏
My Skil TS6307-00 has the metal insert, has a 3 5/8"(92.08 mm) depth of cut, and it's not loud. Looks like Skil listened to customers and made everything right.
It does everything I need it to do; the only thing it lacks is wheels. It has folding legs and is light and compact making it easy to load/setup/store, so the lack of wheels isn't an issue.
I got mine on sale for $269, a better saw for the money would be incredibly difficult to find.
I do believe they're addressed a few of the issues mentioned within the video and the dedicated review I made. You got it for a great price, congrats!
As an amateur I purchased the einhell, it's good enough to start with, but would be good to see a video showing what improvements you'd make and how to for those without a 300 budget
Good idea! I’ll have a think about it :)
Yes to DeWalt 7485, I just got it! At first I bought the Skil, I was very disappointed with alignment problems for the fence, it was very flimsy / unstable and hard to adjust. Skil's table top is not flat (DeWalt is not flat also), miter gage is made of metal, Skill had a terrible miter gage made of plastic. I returned Skil after using it for two month and got DeWalt instead. Two things I like about the Skill is it's legs and look of the product. I love that DeWalt is smaller, well aligned straight out of the box and I like 8 1/4" thinner blade more now. DeWalt was on sale for $329 at Lowe's here in LA so I end up paying only $20 over Skill price. Hope it works well for me.
The DeWalt is a great saw, something I didn't factor into this video was it's overall size. I'm considering building a workbench with an embedded table saw and the DeWalt will work best for that cause of it's smaller profile.
Which model SKIL did you have?
I'm tempted by the 10" worm-drive for the torque.
Great honest and down to earth review. Started my tool buying experience with Evolution but I think if I chose a saw I would go with the Dewalt (just for the smaller footprint). Unfortunately I have had the Metabo TS216 sitting in my workshop for 3 years, I have never even switched the thing on as it is just a shockingly poor piece of c… and costs more than the Dewalt or Evolution.
Thanks so much 🙏 and that’s totally fair! The smaller footprint is nice, especially if you want to mount it within a workbench. 😀
In the US, the Dewalt is almost double the price of the Skil. But at least right now it's hard to find the 10 inch Dewalt without the stand. The Dewalt is $650 and the Skil is $350. Both can be found on sale but still, it makes the Skil much more attractive.
Yeah that’s crazy, I’d likely do the same!
I cant find the skil in England online
@@stanleeharvey Well the Skil is considered so good in the US because of quality vs price, not because it's the best jobsite saw available. The DeWalt is widely considered the best jobsite saw, so if it's a similar price to Skil in the UK, I'd say just get the DeWalt.
@spizzlo Ahh I see, that makes sense because I've been watching American youtube reviews say it is the best bang for buck. After watching this review and reading your comment, I'm going to go for the dewalt or evolution. Cheers
I bought the evolution ready to use out of the box 👍
Good to know, thanks for sharing 🙏
Of the four you've tested I think I'd go for the evolution and think you nailed why it's better value for money then the dewalt, although that's also a great saw! I have the Rutlands and by all accounts its identical to the skil (i've heard rumour they're even produced in the same factories) but is cheaper at about £295. Had it for about 3 months and can't complain so far!
Yeah I saw you review and it looks decent. Glad you enjoyed the video :)
The remodeled Skil saw has a metal plate. I would advise you to add that to your videos so beginners aren't turned off by it. The plate is metal now, at least on mine. Also, the saw is calibrated from the factory now.
Do you have a link to the remodelled skill table saw with the metal throat plate?
@@richjames4445 I bought mine from lowes. Get the one in the gray box, not the black box.
Thanks for pointing that out. I'd suspect if that were the case with the saw I reviewed in this video then the overall score would raise to ~4/4.2
@@richjames4445 Bought mine from Lowes. Also, make sure it had a black box, not gray.
I bought the Dewalt after one of your previous videos explained the quality and ease of use. It was my first TS purchase, and it's been amazing. Like yours, perfect out of the box and ready to go. I do think the build quality is far superior to the evolution products, and you also get a 3 year warranty. The mitre gauge is absolutely crap though!
I do agree that the DeWalt's build quality is superior that Evo the majority of the time. But for their latest table saw I really do think they've stepped up to the DeWalt standard. To be clear, this is not the case for their previous saw (RAGE 5)
The Evolution came out just a week later I purchase the Dewalt... It almost made me cancel my order 😂
Great price and ton of features for an honbbist. I'm definitely happy with my saw but if I had to buy one now, I'd surely try the new Evo
The Dewalt is still an excellent choice!
Thanks Jack. I'm still in the warranty for the Rage 5-s so there's that to consider. Another point to consider maybe the availability of different saw blades for each. And the ever present Dust collection! Take care & stay safe.
Both very good points! Thanks 🙏
I have the DeWalt and it's been a great saw, but I have to say if the Evolution had been available when I bought, I probably would have gone for that one instead. Looks like a great value.
Evolution seems like kind of a weird company, though. They seem to have just showed up out of nowhere here in the US in the last few years, and I thought they must have a UK or EU origin. But their website says they are headquartered in IA, USA? Is that just a headquarters for the US branch, I wonder? Their website has no info about the company history or ownership.
I will say last year I bought their cold-cutting chop saw for cutting metal pieces and it's been brilliant. Clean cuts without the risk of burns or warping, and a lot easier cleanup than all dust and powder produced with an abrasive saw.
Great review!
DeWalt is an excellent saw don’t worry! And thanks 🙏
Evolution originates from Sheffield in the UK in 1992, but we have several locations around the globe, including Davenport and Chicago in the US and others through Europe and Asia. We have been selling products in the US for nearly 20 years but mainly focused on the Blue range of Steel industrial products, we are beginning to grow slowly with the Orange range of professional/DIY products. The industrial products are still the bulk of our business and our reputation is tied to this.
@@willholt100 Thanks for the info!
@@willholt100 Is the R255TBL+ available in the EU?
@@piprog Hi Yes it is going to be available in the EU, I believe if it is not already it will very shortly be available via Evolution France website and other outlets like Leroy Merlin.
Your pricing is quite interesting with an ocean between us. Here in the U.S. or at least where I am located, the Skil is the cheapest, then the DeWalt, then the Evolution or at least its closest relative. Good video!
I suspect the SKIL & DeWalt are built in the US whereas the Evo is built in the UK. I don't know that for sure but it would make sense given the difference in cost.
I love my dewalt saw, but i really like the outfeed bit on the evolution, something for dewalt to consider i think! Great video mate
DeWalt is a superstar for sure! Thanks 🙏
Bought skill one for around 200 eur, so around 170 pounds. So it seems it was a steal. Good saw, a little bit underpowered, but still it is all what beginner needs.
Good choice, it’s a great saw 👍
Cracking video Jack must say I think out the 3 I agree with the way you leant although I've only used the DeWalt but I think there is a 4th contender the Rutlands saw. Comes in less than the 3 main players and imo stands up with the 3 of them that's what I ended up getting and wow mind blown to be fair. 🏴👍
I have seen a couple of reviews on the Rutland saw and agree that it does look very good and competitive because I haven’t tested it firsthand I didn’t include it here (and the fact that I don’t actually have it) perhaps I’ll get the chance to review it in the future. Thanks for the comment. I’m glad you enjoyed the video. 🙏
@@sumeraybuilds no worries mate a must say I've not pushed it yet planning building it into a bench /out feed kinda like what mark at startmaking did but from what I've done with it so far it's spot on. Out the box needed nothing. My only gripe about it is with the blade guard you can't get less than 50mm from the fence to the blade but a think that's pretty standard. Hopefully you get your hands on it some point it's a great saw at decent budget 🏴👍
Another great video Jack - I’m committed to working on my hand tools skills before I indulge in buying a table saw, but the way you show off that DeWalt makes it very tempting. Maybe you’ve got another career on the shopping channel too….!
Haha thanks 🙏 I’ll keep an eye out for job postings 😂
I have been looking for a new table saw and was torn between the rutland and evolution. Think the evolution + is the better option for the extra features, especially with a built in out feed table. Good review.
Yes I agree! ☝️
I'm from portugal and i got the skill for 300ish Euros, and has been now for 290ish. and mine came pretty much calibrated even with the plastic plate.
but hey, different countries different prices... Evolution and dewalt here are incredible insane prices wise (400+ 500+ 600+ euros)
It's crazy what a difference postage costs make!
@@sumeraybuilds I don't think it's the bigger issue here, I believe it's more a demand and supply thing. Portugal isn't a strong carpenter demand. Sure we need doors and frames and whatnot, but houses are made or brick and cement and inner walls if not the same way, they are made of plasterboard (or whatever name it is 😅) and the studs are made of thin metal "railings", usually shaped in "U" and when connected together they are pretty strong, so need for 2x4 or something like that.
Therefore all based woodworking tools are less in demand that UK, USA for what it seems to be
Yo just here to say thank you for the Evo code - got my free blade!
Glad to hear it!
prices are wildly different in US. Skill table saw is actually easy to find, even at local Lowes hardware stores and amazon for 269$ on sale. The dewalt is 650$, Skil without a doubt is the best buy in the states.
That's so much cheaper than it is over this side of the ocean! Hopefully SKIL sort their s**t out and start stocking it in stores over here. That would change the ranking I gave it.
Jack, could you tell me the dimensions between the feet of the Evolution r255tbl+ as mine arrives monday after a long wait and I'd like to be ahead regarding the measurements required to support the saw safely.
Sorry, I don't always get to comments straight away. I assume you've recieved it now?
@@sumeraybuilds No worries Jack, it was just an off chance question. Mind you, now that it's here, I can't remember myself what the dimensions are and I only measured it yesterday 🤣🤣🤣
I wanted to check prices in the US because the price of the Skil seemed off.
In the US the skil is $269 at Lowe’s the Evolution saw you used apparently isn’t available in the US but a very similar one is $499 on their website and the DEWALT is $549 at Lowe’s
Also, this was not an apples to apples comparison. The DeWalt and the evolution saw our professional job site saw. The skill is marketed and promoted as a saw for beginner woodworkers andDIYers!
Yeah the price might be quite different over your side of the pond. I take your point about not being apple to apples in terms of price but these are all table saws that people often consider and this video aims to explain what the extra cost buys you.
Pleas help..What do you recommand?EVOLUTION 255 MTS or BOSCH GTS 254 Profesional or BOSCH PTS 10.THANK YOU SOO MUCH
I’d go evolution
I have skil because it was cheaper i think twice than dewalt in my country. I change the blade for more tooth than skil have on it. What can i sayd. Works good. The stand (legs) are okay. Maybe wigle ehen you have to cut a bigger and harder wood like ash or similar. But for the price its good for me.
The Skil is great, and if you can get it cheaper that I claim in this video then it would rank higher than it ended up here.
I am from Lithuania. When i buy skil 1340 AA the price was 229€. And normas price is 299€. But dewalt is more expensive here. Price starts something like 600€ without stand. 🙌
Nice video. I'm looking to purchase a table saw, and it would seem the Evolution 255 is my favorite. However, I'm quite suspicious of there being only a multi-material blade and the saw with a one inch arbor. That I can find, blades fitting a one inch arbor are virtually non-existent. What kind of cut quality does the multi-material blade produce in wood, as that is what I'll be using it for?
You can get a wood blade for it. In fact, if you use my discound code 'SUMERAY' you get a free wood blade with it :D
Great review - useful
Glad you liked it 😃
Here in Sweden the DeWalt is twice as expensive as the Skil. Would you still say that the DeWalt is the better choice?
actually more like 3 times as expensive actually...
No, I'd go with the SKIL if this is the case.
Would the Evolution fit on the DeWalt stand?
No I don’t think it would
Du vergleichst wie Engländer, und natürlich gewinnt eine UK Maschine. Nehm die Einhell TP-CC 10 kostet genauso wie DeWalt und wirst du sehen welches platz bekommen DeWalt, Skill und Evolution.
Fair point!
Real pity you didn't included the Excel table saw. None of the four saw reviewed can compete against it IMHO.
Its an excellent saw, 254mm blade, rack and pinion fence, soft start and ~£200, its occasionally on sale on Amazon for less than £200.
If I can get my hands on one then I'll review it. From what you've said it sounds competitively priced.
@@sumeraybuilds Its not a refined machine but its more than accurate enough for 90% of the tasks a table saw will be called on to perform.
I’ve just got a Mikita table saw but maybe should of waited to watch this 😂
I've not used it but suspect it's a great choice given Makita's usual quality. I wouldn't regret the decision if I were you!
All of these saws are made in China, some even with the same parts. I have a 14 inch Evolution chop saw and couldn’t be happier with it. I was ready to purchase the Skill until I found the Evolution. The new model has more great features. Now older models leave much to be desired however the improvements have addressed all those issues. Now one negative is if all your cutting is wood I believe the Skill is better. Now if your like me and cut aluminum and steel ( even certain plastics) you simply can’t beat the Evolution. The key is the speed and their blade design. Now for wood I would use a different blade though. Great review 👍🏼👍🏼
Totally agree! You made a great choice! And thanks 🙏
I still find it a hard choice between the Skil and the Evolution.
The plastic or metal throatplate doesn't matter to me.
So 5 points for both, 5 for accuracy and 3 points for ease of use, eventhough it doesn't matter to me. Calibration is an one time hassle.
But then the features: The Evo get full points because of the sliding panel and the outfeed. But an even bigger sliding panel aka saw sled is easy and cheap to make.
The Skil doesn't have both, so a deduction, but also gets one for noise. But when I looked into the specs, the Evo also makes enough noise for me to wear hearing protection.
So I give 1 point difference between them, because of the outfeed and sled.
4 for Skil, 5 for Evo.
But here's the kicker. The Skil has those legs and is cheaper. I can only get the Evo on Amazon and it isn't available with the stand and the stand on it's own, also isn't available.
The Skil is (In the netherlands) 31,5 euro's cheaper (26,5 pounds/35 dollars) and comes with those legs.
1 point extra for Skil, so now they're even.
And last but not least, I don't have any free space, so I need to store it behind our bicycles and other stuff in a shed, where I don't work. Space is an issue and the Evo looks bigger to store then the Skil.
So with this, the legs and a bit cheaper, the Skil is the winner in my comparison.
But the outfeed and the convenience of the sliding panel is soooo hard to ignore. I'm damaging my brain over this decision!
It sounds like you’ve put a lot of thought into it. And even though I have rated this myself it is just my opinion based on my own experience and requirements. As you say, if the SKIL is much cheaper then that makes a big difference. The lack of soft start is the biggest loss over the Evolution. But either way, you’ll have a great table saw! Good luck with your decision and let me know what you end up deciding!
@@sumeraybuilds Thanks for your reply. The Skil is cheaper, but in the end I don't mind paying a bit more (within reason) for something that's worth it. In this case the sliding panel and the outfeed.
I didn't think about the soft start of the Evo, because to be honest. I don't quite understand it. I know it gently starts the motor, but that's about it.
My father has an old tablesaw from back in the day, like from the 70's or something. It is a big metal abomination with a (I think) single phase motor as big as a turkey and a huge sawblade which makes it almost shred anything thinner then a 2x4. This is the only one he has and so I have never worked (hobby-work) with a smaller soft start saw, besides my plunge saw.
So I don't know what it brings in use to be honest.
Also, is the sliding panel that much of a convenience or did you end op using a saw sled anyway?
@Narfs think of is as the motor slowly starts over a few seconds vs full power straight away. Starting slow means the machine gradually speeds up and therefore doesn’t move a few mm vs without which is instantly load and feels a bit scary. It doesn’t affect the overall performance though
@@sumeraybuilds Thanks again. Maybe this is the better choice for me. Eventhough it doesn't affect overall performance, what you said in your previous message, 'The lack of soft start is the biggest loss over the Evolution', kind of stands out when coming from someone who used, tested and compared multiple table saws (included the commonly praised DWE7485). I know what you mean with the kind of scary shock when turning the saw on and the wiggle it brings to the table. Not knowing the diffrence between those starts and you saying the above, makes me think I underestimate the difference a lot.
I also don't have depth perception because I'm blind on 1 eye, so more then once this made me damage the material. To explain, I'm having a hard time seeing how far away things are from eachother. I see contact and I see space. Just not how much space and so a lot of unpredicted and sudden contact. Start the saw and with the grabbing of the material a slight movement BANG! against that spinning sawblade 😅
Maybe the soft starts makes this a bit less drastic, so now I'm really leaning towards the Evo 😉
I have to think if the saws were infamous for the accuracy of their cuts, one would very much want to avoid using them. lol
😂 good catch, I guess I meant famous 😂😂
evoluution for me never cut true was wonky and wobbly on moving platforms, where a dewalt never let me down , did any 1 els find this ? i returne dit in a rage
I haven’t found this on their latest model, they really have stepped it up with their latest stuff.
The ebrauer (Screwfix and other kingfisher brands) one is exactly the skil one. I got it for 260 euros (220 pounds) as there are always sales on. Offical price in France is 299 euros new. That is your clear winner in terms of value for money! And basically all you need for a diyer. If not I agree 100% on all you said 😊
I really wanted this video to get across that the SKIL, DeWalt and Evo are all great saws, especially for a DIYer who won't be using it often. But when push comes to shove I wanted to make a clear arguement for which one, I believe, comes out on top.
The SKIL is an awesome saw, as I said in my dedicated review, you made a great choice especially considering what you ended up paying.
Do they all need a transformer ?
No, none of them require a transformer.
Where is the Festool. I had to stop watching when there wasn’t a Milwaukee or a Festool.
This was a review of the table saws I had in my inventory, I would love to review a Festool though!
Because you could buy all 4 of them for a price of Festool 😂
dewalt its the only one that it its for profesional use, the other 3 are just mimics of it or chinese gimmicks... ditto
The DeWalt is very good!
The de Walt just about wins for me because it is not Chinese and it’s painted Yellow.
Fair enough!
DeWalt would be the only professional saw. The others are entry level or hobbyist. If a contractor turned up at my house and not have any of the big three I wouldn't let them work.
😂 your house your rules I guess!
Big three being?
@@caj4562 DeWalt, Makita, Milwaukee
@@rianmc4760 haha so if someone turns up with maffel, festool or Bosch you tell them to get lost?
@@caj4562 hahahaha. Mafell and festool are not entry level tools, you tool