3 ESSENTIAL (but simple) drills to help make you quicker in the iRacing Porsche 911 Cup Car
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- Опубликовано: 31 янв 2021
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"Probably the most difficult car in iRacing to drive fast." And my genius here bought it as the second car on iRacing... With little competitive racing experience before. As I said: genius!
Lol, I just made same mistake as you xDDDD
Truly the Dark Souls of iRacing
Feeling pretty dizzy after that first trail braking drill lol
Load cell braking helps tremendously with trail braking.
If you are using a load cell brake pedal set the 'Brake Force Factor' to zero!
Thanks for the tip I will try that tomorrow 👍🏻🏎
Another of Dave’s videos covers this, and a few other things. It’s titled “6 things all those NEW to iRacing should do! | All FREE!”
Long Beach, this past week, was a perfect track to learn aggressive braking, and trail breaking in the Porsche. You cannot get around that track without trail braking. Plus with the bumps it really is a good place to learn on. It can get frustrating if you are new to iRacing, or the Porsche, but the rewards for getting it right make you feel like you have accomplished something, imo.
Long Beach in the Porsche was glorious. So much fun, so rewarding...
@@fermillo65 Too many idiots for me to enjoy the races I ran sadly.
after copying your awesome attitude towards racing and maxing out my A license (oh yes A4.99), i am now trying to get some pace into my game. thanks dave for making us better drivers!
Well done buddy, no mean feat getting to 4.99! 😁
Love this type of video Dave. You should do more! Always watch your videos and try and learn how you take corners so fast, or dodge oncoming incidents, when to push etc. Nice to have the explainer.
Trail braking really does help in the Porsche. I started using it and noticed right away how much more settled the car felt and how much tighter I could turn. And it was easier to hold a steady line through longer turns. Great video, Dave. Thanks and Cheers!
I absolutely LOVE the idea of using drills to hone fine skills like this. I do it in almost every other activity and especially games.
Trying to learn this while hot lapping is really difficult. Breaking it down into an activity where you can repetitively apply the technique is awesome.
I did some similar stuff in the MX-5 when I first started but this shows how useful it can be for learning new cars.
First time I have ever seen anyone connected with Sim racing providing drills for a technique. Excellent
I have purchased this car but have not driven it yet, so I’m glad I saw this before I take it out on track. Probably saved me from scrapping it
Keep in mind that when doing long races the weight of the car changes because you use fuel, brake bias 46% might be good in the beginning but maybe needs adjustment on the last few laps for example.
Yep, good point but didn't want to muddy the waters 👍
@@davecamm I was wondering on this... do you increase BB as you burn fuel or decrease it?
@@robcawood You'll want to decrease it. The fuel tank is just ahead of the windscreen so, as the fuel is depleted, the front of the car gets lighter and it will have less grip as a result. You should shift the bias rearward to prevent the front brakes from locking with the lesser grip on the tyres during cornering from the lightened front end.
You only need to do a click or two once you notice that threshold braking is lower to bring that back to a normal response. Too much and you can lock the rears and cause the engine weight to rotate round on you.
@@Deadmode Thanks heaps!
@@Deadmode but do they really model these sims to that level? I'm curious
Super helpful Dave! Thanks so much for these drills. Hope you're well mate.
Interesting and informative. You make a good teacher Dave.
I'm still in the MX5 in Rookies, but this was super useful. Highly recommend.
I’m a C class noob mate I feel the same way XD
I'll have to try these drills for some of the other cars I own. Simple instructions to follow for the drills, shows how the car will handle, and easily replicable which I really like.
Nice one thanks Dave! Using the skid pad is a great way of showing how trail braking works
Oh baby some training offered by the man himself! I can already feel the seconds I’m shaving from my time! Can this be applied into other cars/series’ by chance?
Absolutely. Exactly the same principles for all cars 👍
Thanks, Dave! I’d love to see more tips and tricks videos!
Dave, thank you so much! This is brilliant! I think this is exactly what I need to take my driving to the next level. I'm going to practice these 3 skills from tomorrow. Thank you once again. Your 'learn the track' series is absolutely amazing too.
This was exactly what i needed to see, nice one :)
Dave honestly your are the best, your explanations are spot on and your pointers are truly working once I try them, Unlike lots of other racing guides. Cheers!
Great work again Dave. Really helped my understanding. Especially on my problems on corner exit. I wish you would do more of these. I benefited a lot from you instruction video from Spa about using all of the track.
Love the Cup Car. I committed to learning how to drive it a couple seasons ago. Started the season with a 1440 iRating. Ended with an 809. LOL I really do love the car, just wish it wasn't always trying to kill me
I needed this video so badly. I’ve just started in the porsche. My DD1 is coming this week I can’t wait. I used your link too!
Long Beach this week has been a disaster. Last night I didn't make it across the start line due to what could only be described as wreckfest carnage
Brilliant, I made the decision on Sunday to buy the car and start doing the 911 Cup.......and this comes out!!! Awesome content, thanks, can’t wait to start practicing tonight! Cheers
Great video as always, i struggled last season with the cup car, until i got the trail braking and rotation sorted over christmas, since then been on the pace every week, i was surprised at the difference it makes
Some say there is nothing he does not know or teach
Thank you! I've just started the cup car. It's a beast to handle. Think if you can drive this car good with all these techniques you will drive any car a lot better. Thank you for this instruction. Will focus on these techniques.
Brilliant Dave!!....and just what I asked for...Thanks Dude!!
Thanks for this tutorial! Very helpful!
Great demonstration Dave!
Nice tutorial and good explanation. Maybe this could turn into a series on driving techniques for the month.
Scott Moakes referenced this video in his latest Porsche tips video, the two work well together thank you both 🙏
Just wanted to thank you for not just telling us about technique, but also demonstrating it while letting us see exactly what is happening with the brake and throttle… and the overlap that occurs. I’ve always wondered how the faster drivers get a launch out of corners, and it could have been an illusion at Red Bull National layout last night, but I think while practicing the trail braking, I may have figured it out. I was taking the long right hand 4th gear sweeper and it was a bit of a surprise. A shock, really. Totally overshot the last turn because of it. 🤣
Anyway, thank you for what you do. It’s very much appreciated. 👍
Great video Dave I love the Porsche 911 great video on the Porsche thank you
Great video! Would like to see more like this with other cars
I just started driving the Cayman GT4, I think I'll apply these drills in the same manner; tricky car for me to figure out. Thanks Dave!
Really informative Dave 👍🚗
Thanks Dave. Finally got the hang of keeping this thing on the ground. Now to get quicker
Great Job Dave!
Thanks, Dave! I drive the cup car 90% of the time and love it, but am not very good at it. Hopefully this will help. Getting a better wheel and pedals than the T150's would help as well. The one thing about driving the cup car is that it has made me faster in anything else I drive. They all seem controllable in comparison.
Yet another great video to help us non Aliens to do our best, Thanks Dave👍🏻
very cool video and this is my favorite car in the iracing, but, it has been very difficult to improve my performance in my T500, some tracks are torture with it
Thanks Dave!! This really helps!!
very nice Dave , everyone should practise this no matter the car !
More videos like this please Dave.
You are the man, Dave!!
Thanks Dave, good video, makes you start thinking about how your driving!! w.
Watching this in season #4 2022, trying to get my nerve up for Porsche Cup this season. I'm not near your level, but I'm learning to at least get around without crashing in this car, if not competitive yet. I appreciate this video, as I'm sure the new Porsche drives in a similar manner. Great drills sir!
Love tutorial videos like this
Awesome! I'm on it Dave!
Thank you, Dave
Aha!
Makes a lot of sense when you watch the video.
Keep them coming Dave I'm like a dry sponge ready to soak up the knowledge. ;-)
This doesn’t come at a better time! Trying to qualify for the Porsche Canada series and trying to cut the fat off my overall lap time. Thanks Dave!
Amazing video
Love these kind of vids
Great video
i just recently got this car and its a blast, im not great in it yet but its lots of fun , real driver car :)
Super useful video, and great idea to test it in the skid pad! I have been waiting to see a good brake bias video and you DID IT in my favorite car! THANKS!
A follow-up question (or video), what's your thoughts about adjusting break bias in lap during races, depending on the turn, traffic, car weight, tire wear, etc?
Great idea Dave could you do this for other classes please and thanks :)
thanks Dave. very helpful. have learnt lots from your vids.. a question. is there an optimal tyre temp. ?
Fab ty again. Just got C license so trying more powerful RWD cars including Porsche Cup. I had no idea such small bias changes were significant. I shall now get experimenting! I also aassume these tips will apply to most RWD cars not just Porsche.
They will work for any car. Same principles 👍
Good video mate! top
Thanks Bruno 👍
Tips for the cup, instalike! Thx!
Enjoyed the video, nicely explained and demonstrated. :D
Dope tips
Love your videos Dave! ANy chance you can do something similar for other classes/driving ability levels? I'd love to see something like this for the MX5!
This drill can be done in any car. The same principles apply 😁
i miss this porsche, such a tricky but fun car
I know this is old, but blipping the throttle is required for downshifting this car? Idk why I thought it had a dog box and auto blipped for me lol you have taught me so well, Dave! I have my first IRL road rally with my WRX this Saturday and most things I’ve learned have been from you! Cheers, Dave! 👊🏽
You make it look so freaking easy.
Super interesting video and very helpful :) Thanks a lot for that Dave.
But in the first few minutes on the circular track I felt really sick from watching :D
So your Coach Dave I see all over ACC billboards? Nice 👍
Always love the content Dave. I am still early in my iRacing journey and eager to learn. I was wondering why neither you nor @MattMalone or @DanSuzuki ever compete in open wheels
I'm just not a fan of them tbh.
I like cars that move around a little. Maybe my old reactions are not good enough for all that down force 😁
Nice video, thank you for taking the tima and effort to make it while keeping things simple. SInce this season, i'm starting to love this car, i even dare to do a race, wich endend up pretty awesome (long beach), if only i hadn't lost it twice at the airpin... Problem is, i run baseline setup and i love it, but i fel it lacks competitivity. I used to have PDS but i cancelled it, not worth the money as the setups are weird at least. People all lost it and ended up destroying and retiring their cars, so i did gain irating :D . Well, i might try to find an advance setup and stick to it...
Try Virtual Racing School. The tutorial videos and the telemetry tools are miles ahead of PDS.
Thank you for the video Dave. I've been iRacing for about 6 months, and never understood the Porsches. I tried driving them and couldn't make half a lap. Sure, I've heard of trail braking, but after a few months I have enough experience to start understanding what folks are talking about.
I practiced your drills for a few minutes then took the Porsche cup car out on the nurb grand prix circuit. What do you know, I could control it, and managed to even complete a lap without an off after a few times around! Then I decided to press my luck and take the 718 Cayman for a spin around mid-ohio (not my favorite track either). Whoa brother... Now I get it. I managed a 1:31.4 after about a dozen laps. Nothing impressive really, but not super embarassing either (1200iR). AND I started anticipating where the limit was and caught the car a few times. There is a lot more to learn, but now I can start the journey. Keep putting out the great videos.
Awesome mate, you got it now. Just keep practicing and you'll be fine 😁
You can learn trail braking in a simulator by braking later and later and engaging your survival instinct, pumping the brakes to make the apex, eventually you'll smooth it out and just release the brakes in a few little steps or twitches off and on. Ultimately your braking plot should look about like the lower leg of a sine curve.
I should be brilliant at these drills. I go round and round in circles with my wife every day!!!
Hands up for who got dizzy after watching this video 🤣✋🏽
Thanks Dave! This is going to the useful simracing videos list!
Thanks for posting this! Great information! Has anyone ever told you that you sound a bit like John Watson? Good stuff, thanks again!
Who's John Watson? 😁
@@davecamm The F1 presenter from back in the early 1990's, he used to do commentary for ESPN2 F1 broadcasts here in the US, also former F1 driver from the late '70's through the mid' 80's...
Hallo Dave I find it very difficult to trail brake with mij G29 pedals because of the non feeling in the beginning of the braking, do you any tips for me hou to set them up
Awesome help for porsche 911. Have you ever driven the Ruf gt3 car? If so, could you please give me some help with how to drive that car? I spin out almost every corner. Thanx in advance. Greetz Walter
that intro is so cool
In other words in whith the brake ,out with the gaz
Can you do this with other cars like VRS cars? Always good stuff to learn or even remember. Keep the good content Dave!
Yes, absolutely you can in the VRS cars. If you really want to see how much difference trail braking makes, try it out with the Mazda MX5, it is very rewarding when you get it right.
@@marcusdutton1808 I'm sorry, i expressed myself in the wrong way. I wanted to say other videos with each car and it's own flaws and goods. Especially the VRS cars because i few like each one has especific caracteristics and would be good to know them, being driver or the guy behind it
13:54 - 'in the real world...' :D
Thank You Dave. Always enjoy your video's. Which headset are you using if you don't mind?
Thanks Jeff. I use an Audio Technica BPHS1 👍
@@davecamm Thank You!!
What would you recommend to be the best gt3 car?
can you help to setup amg gt3 for daytona
Slip Angles !
What genius suggested that 🧐
Very good video! I’ve seen this practice track a few times, is it included in iracing or additional purchase? Name?
Yes it's included. Its called Centripetal Circuit :)
I put a little deadzone in my paddle to be able to rest the foot on the break. But struggle trailbreaking having the last few % on the break. I think I still apply too much break pressure and overrotate the car.
Now I wonder if I calibrate the brake paddle in a way that resting foot on it is like the 5% brake pressure or do you want to have applied when getting to the apex before getting in the power.
So basically the “positive” deazone.
So I don’t have to overthink but only rest my foot on the paddle.
Does that make sense ?
Do the car becames more reactive because it loads the tire or because you increase the braking coficient therefore giving grip back the to the tire?
Hi Dave ..i like your Videos! Can you give me a Link to the gloves you use? Thank you. Regards René from Germany
Hey buddy. I got them from IMB Racewear here in the UK 👍
14:41 you're not gonna turnin' left turnin' left turnin' left .... Oval racers are like : I dislike this video lolllllllllllll
i hear with the porche you use power in the corner to prevent the back end from coming around
What is the ideal tyre pressure for the 992
what `s this course called in the beginning...need that too
Are you saying I should learn the car characteristics before turn one in a race? Great piece of advice.
I know, blizzard thought right? 😁
Where can I get that pedal/steering input display with the line plot that's next to Dave's camera view? I've been looking all over but I guess I just can't figure out what's it called to find it.
It's part of the Racelabs overlay 👍
@@davecamm Thank you Dave!