TASTING ONE OF THE BEST AGED RIESLINGS - THE WINE TASTING
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- Опубликовано: 16 июн 2020
- This is a new segment called The Wine Tasting, where we are doing a deep dive tasting of the best wines in the world and some, that might one day be amongst the best.
Yes, that’s right we are not tasting your run of the mill, liter bottle, everyday wines but the greatest wines, from the great producers, that money can buy. This time we will taste the 1983 Wehlener Sonnenuhr Auslese Gold Capsule by JJ Prüm - Let’s do this!
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I tasted Wehleneder Sonnenuhr from 1993. Exceptionally good, but currently I pfrefer Frith Haag or Tesch, especially when it comes to price-performance ratio.
For the first 5-8 years of drinking wine, all I knew & drank were the wines of Joh. Jos. Prum. I've been lucky to have a few from the 80's, 90's, and about 10-12 bottles from 2001 over the years. For me, JJ Prum was the foundation of what I understood German wine to be, grace, intensity, clean, & long-lived. Of all the wines I've had over the years, the one I continue to search out & buy whenever I find it is the 2001
I recall 1983 to be an amazing vintage for German rieslings ! Had several rieslings back then including Bernkasteler Doctor ,Dr Thanisch... LOVE THEM !
JJ Prum is one of my favourite German producers alongside with Robert Weil. I am Chinese, and I like to pair my Spatlese with mildly spicy Thai or Chinese cuisine, and occasionally with sashimi and seafood sushi too. Thanks for sharing your knowledge in the video. Cheers!
Thank you.
Yes i agree. Asiatic food can well match the riesling and the gewurstraminer in general. I personally found good riesling in my country (czech republic) and my wife likes as well this cepage.
Gewurztraminer is also worth trying
Or Muskateller semi-sweet!
Pairs wonderfully with spicy asian food
Your review triggered my memory that I have a few bottles of 1983 JJ Prum Wehlener Sonnenuhr Auslese stashed away that I bought in the mid '80s for $13/750. Sadly, not gold capsule. Still, can't wait to try one. I like sweet Rieslings with spicy Chinese or Thai food.
Thanks for this interesting review of such an old and high-quality riesling! 👍👍
The 2001 Prum WS Goldkapsel Auslese is a splendid wine right now, one of the best German rieslings I've tasted and as good as many of the legendary 1971s.
Your enthusiasm is contagious.
JJ Prum is one of my favorite wines. The quality of this wine (Spatlese and Auslese -the ones that I have tried) are much better compared to other vineyards making the same wine in that area. The J.J. Prum Wehlener Sonnenuhr Gold Capsule Riesling Auslese are superb!
Great review. The wine looked like it could go another 20 years. I was surprised you didn’t score it a little higher based on your comments. Love your channel. Keep up the great content!
Da können wir uns ja auf einige tolle Tropfen freuen! & cooles Thumbnail 😄
Had my first Auslese JJ last summer at a pop up wine bar on Seneca Lake in NY. It was a 2012 Gold Cap. Had it with a free range barbecued chicken. It was a beautiful wine. Being with my love, eating good food, looking over a beautiful lake, drinking a memorable wine.....just a great evening.
That sound awesome.
My wine mentor, Dennis Dinsmore, shared 2 bottles of Prum at a Thanksgiving meal. He opened a 1976 Prum Graacher Himmerlich Auslese and a 1976 Prum Wehlener Sonnenuhr Spatlese. I vividly remember the experience. To be nearly 30 years of age and still showing fruit and freshness, was something I could not get over. I love old Riesling.
Me Too!
We are huge fans of JJ Prum and have been drinking their wines for over 30 years, we have had everything from their Riesling Kabinett’s to Riesling Auslese’s namely the 1983 and 2006 vintages. We actually paired the 2006 with a Mogul brazed Indian curry dish my wife prepared and we were actually surprised how well it went. Thanks for another great video.
Sounds delicious
Joh Jos Prum is my favorite wine producer in the world. It’s extremely hard to come by in Indiana in the United States, but I have a amassed about 100 bottles in my cellar. My favorite thus far is the 2001 WS Auslese. I have had it twice and it’s been remarkable both times. I will continue to pay the prices to get this wine to Indiana. I’m jealous of all of the European wine lovers who can get this much easier. JJ Prum will likely always be my #1 producer and one if my bucket list items is to some day visit the winery. Thanks for sharing this. I hope to see more JJ Prum in the future!
JJ Prüm wines are amazing. If you get a chance to have a tasting at the winery you would need to try and arrange in advance. I had a wonderful tasting there in 2015 with Dr Katarina Prüm that was truly memorable as well as tasting with Oliver Haag at Weingut Fritz Haag. I love the 2001 vintage wines at Prüm.
@@larrydalton2205 That is truly amazing @larrydalton2205. I can only imagine how special it would be to have a tasting on site with Katarina Prum at the vineyard. I contacted the winery a couple of years ago about an auction bottle I purchased and Mihailo at the vineyard was super kind and unbelievably helpful. I can only imagine a tasting there would be top class. I’m afraid I likely don’t have the clout to have an actual tasting there, but I would love to visit and have a glass on-site. You definitely did something right along the way to a tasting with Katarina Prum AND also with Oliver Haag at Fritz Haag . I am truly jealous and also happy for you at the same time. I would love to hear about those tastings sometime if you have ever written about them or if you make content. Thanks for the response. It’s always a pleasure to be able to communicate with other passionate Riesling lovers.
@CurdBros Sorry, I don't produce content. I'm just a German riesling lover. I don't have any clout in the wine world and was surprised to get the tasting as I had contacted the Prüm winery some weeks before our trip and told no appointment was available. However about one day before leaving the USA I got a second email from the estate which said if I could attend on one specific date and time only, could my wife and I attend the tasting. It worked perfectly although I would have adjusted my schedule in any way possible to be there. About two weeks ago I was just able to buy a nice mix of 14 JJP wines (kabinett and spätlese) from the 2018 and 2019 vintage locally in San Antonio at a very good price. Very pleased at that.
Danke für diese tolle Folge! Interessant zu hören, wie sich solch ein Wein entwickeln kann. Ich habe erst vor kurzem die beiden 2019er Graacher Himmelreich Auslese Goldkapsel und die Wehlener Sonnenuhr Auslese von Prüm getrunken. J.J. Prüm ist mit seinen Auslesen eine Klasse für sich, auch wenn ich Fritz Haag leicht vorziehe, wenn ich die trockenen Rieslinge mit einbeziehe.
Hi Constantin MW,
I’m a drinker from Bangkok, Thailand. Although a relatively new followers of your for over a month or so, I found your videos truly amazing with the way you casually go through tastings, background information in a relax, yet informative manner. You simplify rather complicated wine making technique, vineyard history while at the same time providing your own experience. Me and my brothers are huge fans of your channel so please keep up the efforts!
We have been fond Bordeaux drinkers but we are relatively new to Riesling and German Riesling are our favourite so far. It would be great if you can share us your opinions on the
1) different style of dry German Riesling from different region
2) unique characteristics of German Riesling in comparison to the Austrian or Alsatian Riesling
3) lastly, your tasting of best value German Trocken (Dry) and other sweetness levels (Auslese, spatlese, or even BA and TBA Riesling.
WILL CONTINUE TO FOLLOW YOUR CHANNEL AND KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!
A Riesling video is coming up!
Every time I watch one of your videos I find something to add to the "must try" list (and the "must earn more money to pay for them" list).
I haven't tried any of the Prum wines. I do love Dr Loosen's, so I can only imagine how good JJ is. I did try one very old Riesling. It was from the "Russian Imperial cellar" (whatever that might be) and a very good friend of mine picked it up when she was sort of in the wine business. It was from 1933. I wasn't sure what to expect but I did a braised guinea fowl with dried mushrooms to partner it. (I had a good rioja as a stand in, just in case the wine was undrinkable). The wine was interesting. The cork was very short and I wasn't sure there would be anything much left of the wine, which was very dark. It tasted it's age (quite a lot of tertiaries) but the very strange thing was that there was still some fruit as well as acidity. It was really a glimpse in to a bygone age. And the food pairing worked well.
Richtig coole Idee mit der Serie! Bin sehr gespannt was noch dazu kommt
Danke!
Tolles Format!!
Danke!
Wow , I am engaged in your videos Konstantin !! U looked amazed tasting the first sip of that beautiful Riesling!! Thanks for sharing
Thank you!
Great idea. Not a fan of Grauburgunder at all, but people love it. Why? No idea. But if, take Ziereisens Jaspis. The only Pinot Gris that counts. Except Alsace, sometimes, rarely, once in a decade 😂
Super video, some of the best RUclips content on wine.
Thanks Michael! Keep watching
Thanks for access to these more expensive wines. I would love if you could propose alternatives that offer some comparable characteristics at different price points, so we can work up to a level of appreciation where it makes sense to invest in these world class wines. Great video!
Great suggestion!
Visited them last year! Very nice people!
Sounds amazing. I will keep an eye out for this at my vintage wine shop.
. . . The ' 83 ' or Joh. Jo's. Prum ? ...
Shiiii ....... hätte ich doch damals gekauft. Der Wein überlebt ja jeden ........😍
Good Riesling is the Hauswein in heaven.
True that!
. . . ' House wine ' are two separate words ... And I believe that is a nonsensical statement by Mr. Brown ,
based on ' w h a t ' exactly ?.. agreed to by Herr Baum in a similarly vapid way .
@@donaldcook3112 Hauswein is one word in German.
tried compatible with very old nägelkesse if it how you spell it. absolutely Devine
JJP WS is my absolute favourite Riesling. I’m partial to the spatlese with 10+ years of age. When I pair it, I pair it with Ethiopian food.
I have never had it with Ethiopian food - makes sense though!
I’ve got my first home made wine in primary fermentation right now and it’s a Riesling.
I have the 2012 of this bottle in my cellar... by the look on your face after you tasted it, I may need to let it sit for a little longer! yum
Nice!
Thanks!
Prum is so good, I need to try some with more age on it
I first stumbled across JJ Prum when I was searching for a nice kabinett Riesling to pair with last year’s Thanksgiving dinner! I fell in love with the Wehlener Sonnen Kabinett bottle and since then bought 3 more of it. I found them for $32 at total wine and now they are $74 at that same store where I bought them!! Any thought on which vintage would be better - 2020 or 2021?
Great vid KB, I watched it sipping a Dr Loosen 2019 Graacher Himmelreich Riesling Spatlese I found for €17
If you want to taste aged Riesling but don't have the money. Querbach has many affordable old ones. And yes Konstantin I do feel honoured, thanks for sharing.
Pleasure!
Cooles Video! Meine JJ Lieblingslage ist das Graacher Himmelreich - empfinde die Weine als ein wenig „schlanker“ und frischer als die Wehlener Sonnenuhr. Aber im Zweifel nehme ich alles von JJ :)
Ich auch!
Here where i live, in Republic of Moldova, they mostly produse dry or demi dry Riesling.
I actually love it.
I have a bottle of sweet Riesling prodused with the help of a mold called Botritis Cinereea, from 2020. Sweet of course. Limited edition from Mileștii Mici winery. Get one while they still have :D
Just kidding, you don't have to get a bottle if you don't want to.
I had a 1983 Mosel auslese very young. After uncorking the room filled with pears. Marvelous. I must have missed the wild boar part. I auditioned a simple Nahe qualitatswein with a client and he fried up some boar burgers. The Nahe was so unique he ordered 2 cases. Believe it or not. I didn't have any of my auslese in my case that day. Damn.
. . . How young ?...
@@donaldcook3112 Well, drank it in 1984 or 85.
@@clydeblair9622 . . . Are you from the ' U. S. of A.' ?..
@@donaldcook3112 Yes, why?
And, if it was TCA affected would they replace it? About 5%, or more of the old Riesling i have ever had have been corked. Is it consumer resistance or their conservatism that stops them using screw caps?
That shot of the color... I could almost smell the wine just by looking at it
Yes.
I thought you were going to share this tasting with us.
My glass is still empty...waiting, waiting🍷
You didn't stop by!
RIP Konstantin's drone 😭 Great photo, though 🥰
I have this wine, vintage 2015, but I'm not sure about the gold capsule thing... What does it mean? Greetings from Brasil!
nice i tasted the 88 (without gold capsule) a while ago. still very good but it lacked acidity
88 was a great vintage but maybe you had a bad bottle... but I have not tried the 88 so maybe it just was not good.
I’ve been fortunate to have Prum Wine several times….. years ago when more affordable….. my recent discovery, Keller… one of his GG wines. Hopefully will have G Max some day. My memory may be faulty, but I think Keller is better. What do you think?
Ja , die 83er Goldkapsel von Jay-Jay-Prüm ....
Mitte der Neunziger konnte man die noch bei Dr Manfred Prüm für ca 50 DM auf dem Weingut bekommen , später dann bei Weinland Keiler in Dortmund und anderen Händlern ...
und jetzt fast 500 € ...
Wahnsinn , aber der Stoff ist es wert !!!
No I haven't had a JJ Prüm so far although most of the wines I drink are from the Mosel as well as there are many great wine makers in that wine region but drinking a JJ Prüm is definitely on my list!
Thanks for sharings this wonderful wine with us!
Thanks! Gotta try the JJ Prüm if you get a chance. The more lower Prädikats that are aged this long are much more affordable.
@@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine Of course wine ages differently but what would you suggest how old a JJ Prüm should be at least?
I think you should wait for 10 years at least. And then it is pretty much open end.
@@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine Thank you very much!
@@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine I really did it! Had a 2002 Wehlener Sonnenuhr Auslese that evening and it was really great. Taste of honeydew melon with some citrus and it was very fresh for being that old. Definitely one of the if not the best sweet Riesling I ever had. It only lacked the famous "Prüm-Furz" but who cares?
7:25 I’d love to see you chug some $500 wine out of the bottle😂
Hallo ich habe einen 1949er Joh. Jos. Prüm im Keller. Würdest du diesen Wein noch empfehlen zum trinken?
Yes, and invite me 😉
Please invite me too 😜
When will you do a spatlese or Auslese tasting?
Awesome! I like the video concept. How about posting it on reddit under r/wine?
Yes, I should post it on reddit.
I had a 2017 Gelt Zillikon GK Auslese to celebrate a new job. Lovely wine, but I think that for sweet wine, in general, there is better value from the Loire, Santorini and from a few Austrian producers, like Kracher.
. . . A '17 Auslese , indeed a n y wine of this pradikat n e e d s a minimum of 10 years ...
@@donaldcook3112 Yeah true, but I can't get older vintages at a reasonable price, and all those other wines I mentioned also benefit similarly from 10+ years...
I can’t believe he took the cork that way
How is it that the vineyard can have ungrafted vines in Germany? I thought this was only possible in Chile
Only 94? You are a tough customer!
Kann man den 1983er kaufen? Ist mein Jahrgang und will dieses Jahr noch bei Prühm vorbei 😬
Ich könnte mir vorstellen, daß es noch Flaschen gibt, bin mir aber nicht sicher, ob die noch zu haben sind. Viel Spaß!
I had a 1994 bollig lehnert spatlese a couple years ago that tasted like distilled sunshine and cheeseburgers it was awesome
Hi Konstantin, great Video. I just bought the 1983 vintage of jj prüm wehlener Sonnenuhr Auslese (gold capsule). What about the 83 vintage? Do you have any information about it. I payed about 150,- € for the bottle. I think it‘s a fair price, what do you think?
Hi Alex. Thanks. I am talking about the 1983 vintage in the video - or am I misunderstanding your question? 150 seems fair!
@@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine sorry my fault. I bought the1982 vintage.
What’d you do with the rest of it?
2005 Graacher Himmelreich Asian sweet & sour foods.
Sounds great.
So no signs of oxidative process? Is it because of the high content of sugar?
No, it the sugar, the acidity and the higher levels of SO2 also play a role...
Konstantin Baum - Master of Wine Oh yes, that’s right! Thanks a lot.
My taste goes to dry maybe slightly sweet rieslings. Living on the east coast of United States, rieslings are often the better tasting offerings at the wineries.
thanks konnie. great show. maybe i'll get a riesling for tonight. clare valley is best, of course :-)
mjr
tokyo
Probably my favorite white producer anywhere. Certainly in Germany.
Vielleicht kommt ja noch was von Markus Molitor???
Warum nicht! Erstmal gibt es aber noch etwas aus ein paar anderen Anbaugebieten.
I’ve seen JJ bottles and I didn’t know anything about JJ.
You should try some!
Don`t forget Willie Schafer in Graach……
I don't know why it didn't take the last part... the wine is the 2001 JJ Prum Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Auslese Goldkapsel.
If that is ‘only’ 94, what gets 98, or more?
hey Konstantin, should I pull a trigger on a 2019 J.J. Prum Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Kabinett white capsule? As I've understood due to climate change the kabinet level (especially during a great year like 2019) no longer feel like "watered down", but the prices haven't adjusted to the new reality. Or would you rather aim for the spatlese white capsue? anything above that gets too expensive for me. Thanks
Yes, buy it but keep it for at least 5 years before opening it.
@@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine thank you very much! Of course I'd store it in the wine cabinet, I was planning to drink it during 2025
ich habe noch einen jim beam aus den 70ern
i must be abnormal, eating and drinking does not work for me. i get faded, most often cross-faded, i let the hunger rise before eating and then im done for the day. no more drinking after i ate it totally rekt my digestion.
How do you think this will pair with goat's cheese?
Would rather drink a Sancerre with my Crottin de Chavignol but it might work!
@@KonstantinBaumMasterofWine Im not disagreeing with you re. the Sancerre - just curious how this might pair with some aged Chèvre, a ripe fig and some onion marmalade...
Show off 😁, 3 times tasting, envy....
😁
I love you K
Can u sand me a kit plz I don't have robux😢
eim deutscher
I don't remember when I drunk good Riesling .All Germans are sweet they probably add sugar .