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Toxic Masculinity To Blame For Taylor Trolling? | The View
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- Опубликовано: 30 янв 2024
- After Fox Sports host Colin Cowherd called out the "sad and lonely" men complaining about Taylor Swift, the co-hosts weigh in.
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I remember when Tony Romo who at the time was the Dallas cowboys QB was dating Jessica Simpson and when he had a bad game they would blame her for for it.
This is the relationship I immediately thought of, too. The media dragged Jessica through the mud for no other reason than she was there.
And rightly so.
I remember that, too. It was like Tony Romo "broke the bro code." It was so weird.
Well he was on the sideline most of the time so it mattered little.
@dfa3366 agreed it was so sad and unfortunate
I like what Alyssa Farah Griffin said "people don't hate each other the same way in real life as they do with the anonymity of internet."
That was once true but that distain is transferring to real life more and more, unfortunately.
I think they do. They just don't have the courage to speak on it in oublic.
@@mykarma2What is courageous about hiding behind a computer spewing hate about people.
Yea that was a greeaatttt point in which i completely agree which is why i dnt argue wit ppl online
@@Junkinsally You're right. Its getting really weird out there.
10 seconds of Taylor Swift on the Jumbotron is not nearly as annoying as the one solid hour of TV commercial time that they pause the game for. When you go in person, you REALLY notice it, every time you ask yourself “why are the players just milling around and not playing?” Why don’t people vent about that?
Good observation
That's capitalism for ya!
Nice way to pretend Taylor only appears for 10 seconds. No it’s everywhere all the time and continues after the game. If she appeared once every other month there wouldn’t be a problem but she is now being shoved down people’s throats. I don’t think this is Taylor’s doing but the media’s, although she does lean into it since this is her first seemingly successful relationship in a while. It went from “aww good for Taylor”, to “oh I guess we’re talking about them again”, to “ok we get it they’re together and we already said congrats”, to finally “ugh again go awayyyyyy”
@@CloroxBleachCompany Wait until she catches him cheating. This dudes a total player. He is only with her for attention. Look at all the commercials he does.
They actually do. It's a common complaint that falls on deaf ears.
I think Whoopi is missing the point Alyssa is bringing across.
Listen the NFL is using Taylor’s name for the ratings that she brings. It’s really about the money that’s why they show her. Men just learn that part and hush up because we don’t run any of the channels or anything else. That’s just it! Opinions are like assholes and everyone has one.
I agree, but the NFL doesnt need her help with ratings. The NFL dominates the tv ratings when theres games from September until the super bowl
NFL lost me when they endorsed BLM.
@@rickyalvarez5903 Like they NEEDED you to support them...🙄
@@rickyalvarez5903If they actually would have lost you, you would not have posted that here. I'm calling B---S--T!
@@bigboss9756they might have great ratings, but by having Taylor on the screen they have tapped into a demographic who would likely NOT be watching the game otherwise. The vast majority of women would not be watching Chiefs games. And yes, they do need her help to get better ratings. It doesn’t matter how many viewers they have, more viewers = more money, and no one ever has enough money.
Alyssa has a lot of good things to say and just gets talked over...let her speak more! She's right, there's a generation of men that are being told what not to do, but aren't being told what *to* do, and they're gravitating people toward Andrew Tate who validate them. Give them a role model, elevate people trying to do Men's Work seminars.
Totally unrelated and unimportant, but I'm so in love with Whoopi's hair. I love the look so much!
YES!!
Love Whoopi’s hair!!!
I said that yesterday. She looks so beautiful.
It does look nice
Same!! She looks great
♀️ Women deserve respect.
♂️ Men need friends.
💖 Love conquers all.
Whoopi totally missed Alyssa’s point. It’s not about these guys not being able to accept that those days are done. I think Alyssa was addressing YOUNG men, like children who are feeling alone and turning to bad outlets for that loneliness. That is a real issue that we need to take seriously.
I agree. And this is my problem with having somebody on like Whoopi, she totally refuses to see things from her own perspective. She is somebody who has this attitude like her points are always valid when they’re actually not.
@@mrmalcolmmrmalcolm9016 I think there is a lot Whoopi gets right, but I do take your point.
When you have the right attacking Taylor for more then just attending her mans football game that is when its toxic. Like Sara said some these conservative men who have daughters are paying attention and seeing how they are towards women.
Taylor Swift is going to endorse Creepy Sleepy Joe or Heels Up Harris and get her Flock of Zombies to vote.
@@rickyalvarez5903 Have you seen the Tangerine toddler who has been found to be a sex abuser, cult of zombies? Also, there has been no evidence of Taylor endorsing Biden/Harris. And if she did, so what? There are right-wing celebs who would endorse Failure Trump.
You have a lot of men on the left who are equally attacking Taylor Swift it’s not just men on the right. And like Sarah also said it’s not just men it’s also women attacking her because they don’t like that she’s always being promoted by the NFL. Yeah, there’s a lot of women who watch football and they don’t like that every 25 seconds. The cameras turn to her when she’s in the Jumbotron.
@mrmalcolmmrmalcolm9016 sorry but the comparison is not even close. Have you seen Charlie Kirk with the three other right wingers and how insulting they were to Taylor on a public platform? Didn't see 4 liberal white men throwing the amount of venom Kirk and his degenerate buddies did on a public forum.
@@mrmalcolmmrmalcolm9016well it’s 80% from the right, I voted for Biden n will again n I have no problem with Taylor being there, ik a lot of dudes that either dont care or are actual fans
Sunny always saying something about somebody hiding behind a cat emoji with keyboard courage
She must have a specific online person in mind. 😂
She is hated by many though or let's say disliked. There are enough reasons for that. Can't stand her either.
She’s not lying because that’s exactly what it is!!
@@williamcarter9066...and gladly you cannot do anything about it... especially when that person also goes through a VPN server. Cope with it. There are more intelligent people - and you are getting paid back this way.
You don't understand how pathetic that sounds. Incel@@chillfluencer
Maybe Sunny Hostin HERSELF'S the ACTUAL keyboard warrior with keyboard courage & straight up HIDING behind cat emojis okay @sheldoncole1151.
Whoopi's attitude is why men don't seek help and why men don't come out and talk about this outside of the manosphere. The advancements of women are amazing and should be celebrated and encouraged, however, it has had consequences and those are worth being talked about in the way Alyssa did.
They also show Kelce's mom! Why aren't they complaining about that? They are so insecure it pitiful.
Precisely what Sarah said, because in this case his mom is not an active participant with a career, she conforms to a prescribed role that’s “acceptable”. It’s all rooted in misogyny and honestly I doubt he’s gonna be able to withstand the territory that comes from dating or eventually marrying Taylor. I hope he does the work, but I bet it will prove too much. Men in these high level careers not only see other men pick up and drop women left and right, but they also want to emulate this and that is the issue here, swift is not a prop…
Whatever
It’s not just keyboard courage. If you interact with people in person then you see that they’re not as bad as you think (with some exceptions lol). “People are hard to hate up close” -Brené brown.
I agree with Alyssa. And explaining what a problem is isn’t the same as excusing it. If we don’t understand what is happening & why then it will only get worse not better. Telling them to just suck it up isn’t a very good strategy
Alyssa is absolutely right about this and Whoopi completely missed the point.
I don't think the point was missed. I just think that all that women have gone through is like get it together, men. However, I do think women play a huge role in coddling men from birth on and sometimes contribute to the emotional fragility of men. Men need to know they are responsible for developing self love, love for others, and the world doesn't revolve around what they want. We as HUMANS have to work together for strong community.
Nobody wants to be around toxic people. That’s why they’re lonely. Change your ways and your mindset. Then maybe people will want to be around you.
Alyssa looked excited.. sonny finally agreed with her 😂
This isn't about toxic masculinity, it's about toxic conservatism. MAGAGA is angry that the most popular blonde-haired, blue-eyed woman in America is not on their side, and has influence on young women voters. If Taylor Swift was a *Boobert* or *Empty Greene* type, they'd have no problem with her.
Liberals are mad too. Stop making everything about a political party.
@@chrisglover9700
No, we’re pretty serene.
Agreed. The NFL has a conservative fan base that sees Taylor Swift and her fan base as party chasers with their liberal ideals. The NFL itself doesn't really care because they see Swift as a commodity to their business. I have no skin in this game because I'm not a fan of Swift or football.
Still, it was nice that Joy and Alyssa talked mental health and loneliness among men and how something like this tornado in a teapot thing can lead to ugly destinations for said men.
Exactly. Great point.
@@chrisglover9700please show us any liberal attacking conservative artists like Fox is doing.
Please be our guess and enlighten us.😅😅😅😅😅
Society has to empower women, and boost morale and masculinity of men in healthy ways possible.
Sarah - you made excellent points, as always.
This conversation reminds me of the quote "For those who are accustomed to privilege equality feels like oppression".
this was an excellent discussion everyone here made good points
Shallow… still… Whoopi looks great and beams health. ❤
I’m a Taylor swift fan and don’t care about her being in a relationship I think the annoying part is it is that it is everywhere and in your face kinda like this that was an 8 minute segment. I think more important things received less time on the show. Of course there are disgusting misogynistic men that view their relationship some type of way but I think media is problem with over-saturation of it.
Exactly!!! That’s why people are annoyed! I don’t listen to Taylor or watch sports or football and I’m bombarded with them.
Yep! Overexposure!!
“They’re hiding behind their little cat emojis.” Cat? Oh boy, do you not understand these guys. LOL.
Agreed. But it’s probably the closest to 🐱 that they’re going to get. 😏😂
"The primary goal of the nfl is to entice and keep younger fans". P Simms. It's called show business, no show equals no business
Yep. Football is a business. Period.
Alyssa's point went completely over Whoopi's head. Ignore the issue if you want to, but this is not just a mens issue. This is a societal issue.
Sunny is spot on with Sunny saying that a photo of Taylor Swift is only a small part of the entire game
The issue is that it became annoying!!! She’s everywhere and people are just getting annoyed of this woman and her love life. It’s not her it’s the media
@@javiruiz8365The photo of Taylor Swift did not stop people from playing the football game or cause so much of a disturbance that people could not watch the entire football game
They show her everytime Kelce catches the ball.
@@bigboss9756 he will and they will win
@@bigboss9756If seeing Taylor Swift for 30 seconds total over a three hour period of time during which you're voluntarily staring at corporate entertainment bothers you, maybe try spending a little bit more time having old-fashioned fun like playing games, daydreaming, crafting, or something like that. You don't have to be that high strung. If Taylor was your daughter and Travis was her boyfriend, wouldn't you just be happy for them? It's ok.
I've been single for 12 years and I hate Noone.
SAME. Personally, I'm happiest not to deal with toxic femininity anymore.
@@Maliceless100 toxic anything or anyone.
Im a man and i stay off social media im 35 and when i was 17 to like 21 i used social media and then i got off and started talking to people.
I get what Joy was saying but men didn’t get left behind they choose to stay behind because they didn’t want except the changings that happening and blamed women for it.
Right.
Not really!!! Only one demographic fell behind and that’s why they bash women
That part 💯
I was watching a college football game when they first mentioned Taylor Swift. I wanted to watch football not hear about a celebrity's dating life. I was cheering on my team. Honestly, who freakin cares. Taylor is dating an NFL player. Great! The football stations need to stop mentioning a football player and who they are dating over and over again. We get it. Its great and all but leave their dating life into their own hands. I'm not a fan of Taylors but I do respect her.
Football and other competitive sports are nonsensical. Either both teams are trained alike - then chance decides the game. Or one team is way better trained...then it is determined who will win.
And those few times where the less trained team wins: happens around 4% of all games.
I know nothing about football, but I’m all for Taylor and Travis. Love seeing their joy ❤
The game is nearly 4 hours lol if a 25 seconds clip of Taylor Swift is bothering you then you need some therapy lol
Toxic Masculinity? Thats the most discriminatory term i have ever seen. Where is Toxic Femininity?
They usually only attack white men and Republicans
It’s called Karen
Y’all just call us “b*tches” 😂😭
Too many sons grow up believing no woman will ever love them more than their Mother.
I honestly don’t think this is about toxic masculinity. I think this is about conservatives being very angry that she supported Joe Biden, and that Travis Kelce is pro vaccine.
👀 That is definitely a big part of it. They are TRIPPING about that vaccine for real.
Yeah, it is more political, but to be fair... most of Don the con's fans are toxic males. That is the Fox target demographic. 😎
Agreed. Toxic MAGAinity.
That's exactly what they missed in this conversation. They're trying to turn it into a political issue. Thank you for straightening up the truth.
Sunny and Alyssa were opening a deeper and interesting conversation but Whoopi has to ruin it. Not an excuse but It’s a fact that men are still shamed if they have emotions. I have come across men who won’t even do something as simple as go to dinner with another male friend because they think it will look too intimate. It’s really becoming more of a thing especially with younger men. Also they are far less likely to seek therapy. We as a society are even part of the problem. Telling young children to “man up” if they are sad or that they are “acting like a little girl.” With all that Loneliness and bottled up emotions It’s no wonder we end up with all these gross “alpha male” Internet personalities like Andrew Tate and Sneako.
I agree with you
I believe what all the hosts said is correct. I don’t believe she’s saying man up and don’t show your emotions. She’s saying women have had to deal with misogyny since the beginning of time. Although it took a while, women begin to recognize we are more than just a being behind a man whose sole purpose was just to carry the human race forward, rear children, cook and clean, and don’t bother their husband when he gets home.
We evolved ourselves to be better and we did it with men’s help. Now it’s their turn to evolve. What Sara said that there are some women who cultivate toxic masculinity as well is true. I believe Whoopi was wrong in that sense. When she stated that it wasn’t true.
I think they are just saying it's not women's problem at the end of the day. Many of these women don't realize that men are struggling or could care less until they birth sons.
@@Write662 And maybe if these women would listen to the young men and hear their concerns rather than dismiss them, they would evolve. As Alyssa was stating the stats regarding men, it shows that some men are not all powerful and not apart of this made up patriarchy. For years, women needed and got the assistance of men to get them to where they are now. Now it is time for women to reciprocate and help men out. If women are taking jobs that were once done by men, then how do you expect these men to evolve.
I appreciate what you said but the dinner part is absolutely ridiculous. Men go out to eat all the time you just nesd yo go to any restaurant or McDonalds and you’ll see friends eating together
Joy said her piece with such love and humility. I absolutely respect her even more now for saying what she said.
The solution is for all people to behave with respect, empathy and kindness.
Disrespect, selfishness and anger are what's destroying this world. We used to be able to be like that, we can again.
I agree !!!!!!!!!!!! ❤
Cackling Hens 😂
Well said my good man 🧐🧐🧐
To be honest I have never watched a football game or a soccer game!!! Been to a baseball game and basketball game just for the food and beer and interaction with people that are fans. Never paid attention just cheered and pretended like I cared
It coming from those who are battling their insecurities
It’s not that she’s there it’s that the commentators do nothing but talk about her whenever they get the chance
Do you watch game they literally show her less than 10s and talk about her before the game for a second yes it was insane the first to game but stats shows that she is on the screen 0.04%
Also she is the biggest super star they talk a lot about drake in NBA game why its problem when its a women?
What bothered me about it is the first Sunday that she showed up the Dolphins beat the Broncos 70 points to 20. Making it the second highest scoring game in the history of the NFL, but all that anyone cares about is that Taylor Swift went to a Chiefs game... I've been over it since then.
@@Reema-tz9ek I don't know if the reason Swift gets crap for being a woman as it is for being a woman who supports Joe Biden while the NFL has a mostly conservative fan base. The NBA has a liberal fan base.
@@Reema-tz9ekthe media is not talking about Drake like they talk about Taylor!!! Let’s keep it real!
Y’all pardon my ignorance but I fail to see the issue with Taylor Swift being at a football game supporting her man 🤷🏽♀️ I don’t get the uproar.
She supports the Democrats and ethics and fairness. That’s the Republicans problem. They are trying to bring her down.
The issue is the NFL keeps flashing her on the screen. Football fans want to see the game not a pop star and the NFL isn't listening to its majority consumer base.
Right
Oh ok, thank you, I didn’t get it.
They look really happy. So, good for them.
It's about the x's and o's of the game pure and simple
I love Taylor swift. 😊
I do love seeing how they both support each other at what they do. I find that very refreshing.
As for the negativity, honestly, it's just crazy how a supportive couple can set off so many people. Unsurprising only because there are far TOOOOO many people who have not put in the work to introspect themselves. Oooph. I can't wait till this wave of people drifts off into the ethers making room for more sound minds to roam the Earth.
I am happy that Whoopi spoke her mind around 6:38. I get what everyone is saying but also, she and Joy are right. We got to the point where we had to push harder to MAYBE be on par. We had to be better than our counterparts. I worked in the trade for over a decade and have gone back to school since. About to enter another male-dominated industry where women make up
Is The View going to talk about Taylor every other day? Not disagreeing with the overall views on the topic but is there nothing else going on in the world?
Colin, that was a READ!!! Thank you brother!
I really hated how Sunny and Whoopi dismissed Alyssa Farah Griffin's genuine concerns about young men and the issues that they face. Many of these young men were not born during the time that Whoppi mentioned. Rather than fear and hate these men, as Whoopi mentioned, maybe listen to some of their concerns and see if you can come to some sort of compromise. By listening to some of these men, you prevent them from falling to the alt-right.
Some people take it too far, but honestly the people I know that don’t like it are not mad at her. They are made at the fact that it’s no longer about just football or these player’s accomplishments, it’s about an off field romance and it’s cool to show her, but that should not be the headlines, commercial or preview at the game. True fans are over the BS
I don't know what toxic masculinity is but the view is a great example of toxic femininity.
Whether people express it or not, the sentiments of hatred will still be present.
Is this a man problem or a Foxx problem?
I'm so tired of hearing about their relationship. Who cares. Let them be. Annoying
These Ladies Are Missing the Point 😒
What is the point? Why are you all so mad that Taylor goes to a football game to support her boyfriend? Are you saying that she shouldn't leave her house unless she is performing?
So true😂❤❤
I do not think it's toxic masculinity or men hating the success of women at all. I think we overstate the idea of men wishing they could still hold women back. Some people just don't like celebrities. Some people don't like the idea of anything being a distraction or seeming bigger than the game. Some people are right-wingers and are going to hate anyone who is a popular Leftist or any shine they seem to get from it
Thanks! Like Josh Hawkeye,Ted Cruz,Mike Johnson. I could go on 😂
I can be angry all I want, Whoopi!! It’s a free country
Joy speaks like she still has a career in standup comedy. The point is the only reason why people are making an issue about Taylor swift is because the NFL has to make such a big deal about her being in attendance when she has nothing to do with the game, why not put attention on other players wives/girlfriends. Its just all attention/ratings grab for the NFL to make a big deal about her, your average fan only wants to see the game and nothing else.
This discussion makes me thankful that my church has a vital men's group where they can connect with each other on a deep level.
Taylor Swift for president.
I love my sister Whoopi preach Queen 👑✌️🖤
15% of men dont have close male friendships, does that mean 85% do? Then the numbers are actually pretty positive if thats the case.
The problem with the term "toxic masculinity" is that there isn't
any REAL MANHOOD present.
Women did complain a lot, you never really stopped complaining. You’re actually going back in time to get retroactive “justice”. This is just a way of discrediting the other side by saying “quit whining”
I'm going to take a stab at it, and I am going to try my very best not to come off as ignorant. I am not going to try to say who is right and who is wrong, but I just want to give a point of view.
Let's say on Taylor Swift's tour after every song she performs, the big board is switched to Travis Kelcie for 5-7 seconds losing his mind. After every song. To the point where his reaction is part of the show. She does a concert a week for 17 weeks and after every song, we have to see Travis Kelcie supporting Taylor, maybe dancing, cheering and what not. It gets to the point where you can't talk about a Taylor Swift concert without bringing up Travis. There becomes a Travis watch at all of her shows. It is hard-pressed to have Taylor Swift news without somebody bringing up Travis Kelcie, which has nothing to do with her performance, her songs, her musicianship, her life.
Do you think there will be a portion of Taylor Swift fans who will feel like he doesn't need all that exposure? Are you telling me there wouldn't be a portion of Taylor Swift fans who would be annoyed by the presence of Travis and just want to enjoy her performance, her songs, her musicianship without having to think about an NFL player?
What I am getting at is some people just want to watch the NFL. It's how they get away from life. We just want to watch a game of football, and of the 1,619 active players in the NFL, we don't care who any player is dating. It's their time of the week where all they have to do is root for their team and/or enjoy the sport. Now the outside world is penetrating their sanctuary and of corse there is going to be pushback.
“When a man can’t find a deep sense of meaning, they distract themselves with pleasure.”
- Viktor Frankl
More like "When men can't find a deep sense of meaning, they distract themselves with hate & violence".
Allysa and Sara hit it right on the head 💯 the culmination of their points are causing this wave of misogyny towards Taylor
Whoopi is absolutely right that Misogyny needs to be defeated in the hearts and minds of our sons and daughters and at the voting booth. Patriarchy is a scourge and needs to end!
Members of Congress only need to serve five years in order to receive a pension for life. These people are not evil just because of the love of money. They are evil because they want power. The power and prestige of being a member of Congress is their primary motivation.
People didn't freak out with Gisele and Tom. Gisele actually made 10X the money that Tom made.
Men are ok if it’s a supermodel.
I definitely think that in the brand new age of feminism, we have left men feeling marginalized because we went from a society that practically worshipped manhood and chivalry to a society that says who needs a man and for a lot of men that's off putting because there are good men out here who were raised to be loving, caring and kind and in today's climate its all shadowed by the evils that other men do. I think we as a society just need to uplift one another no matter the gender, race, and sexuality. At the end of the day we are all human and we need to show a little more kindness to one another.
I’am from Australia and we have a woman’s football league competition…is there a women’s football competition in the USA???
Swift is taking over the world 🌎😂😂🤦🏾♂️
Taylor Swift doesn’t like Donald Trump and that’s what this is about. Has nothing to do with football, men’s relationships with each. Swifty are registering to votes and this is what’s bothering people.
Thank you, Whoopi, for telling the rest to stop making excuses for men. Men just think a woman should be quiet in a small space and not be seen or heard
If you are insulting all men, at least spell the words correctly...excuse, quiet
I don't know any guy who thinks that way. Whoopi is wrong to indict today's young men for the crimes of men from bygone eras; her broad statement makes no sense.
@@Maliceless100 Yes this whole men vs. women thing is played out and exacerbated by social media unfortunately. Too many on both sides play into it way too much. Most men I know adore women in all facets of life. As a man myself, some of the people I most admire are women. We all have different struggles in life. This men hate women stuff gets nauseating after a while since so many of us feel exactly the opposite.
Anger like this really isn’t about anger, but an *unhandled sadness.*
Unjust anger is not accepted in today’s society anymore, rightfully so. But today it’s pushed down and repressed instead of being handled. So what comes out from that is even more anger, because men’s (incapability to speak of their) emotions are not addressed.
Now, unjust aggression towards anyone - like this - should never be accepted. But there’s a societal issue that needs to be addressed too. I’m a guy myself, fairly levelheaded and rational, but I have not cried for anything that I’ve been subjected to for the last 25 years - thanks to parents and people around me not interested in my emotional needs. “Don’t feel, let it go, don’t be so sensitive, it’s not that important” are all phrases that I’ve been brought up with my entire life and still hear today (!). That’s not okay,..
Lots to unpack here. I consider myself a very mild Taylor Swift fan. Love her music and it got me through homelessness. When it comes to football, I'm not a fan and never understood the weird quirks behind it. That being said, a lot of men (and others) are indeed struggling with loneliness, but I think this is more because of late-stage Capitalism. I do find it curious that Joy seems to have sympathy for many of these lonely men despite telling Millennials that they need to "just get a job". To that end, imagine having to work three jobs just to get by and not having time to socialize with others (since you have to get up early next morning for work). When it comes to jobs, Joy, however, is right. Not only are they not enough jobs, but the jobs we have either don't pay well, socially isolating, and repetitive.
They advertised for you without her saying a word.
Good old fashioned sexism is the reason.
Vote blue 💙
No
They are called incels.
Yes involuntary celibate.
I think part of the problem is the disdain we treat these men with that don’t get that intimacy or typical healthy social interaction.
Trump couldn't run a bath without flood damage, he is more childish than a child.
Wtf has Taylor done to be hated and on primetime media so much ? She is just a very successful singer doing her thing on a tour and watches her boyfriend do his thing
She can rock the vote, and MAGAt/Fox are scared of the youth vote. And I hear he is pro-vaccine. 😎
The problem is not them dating. No one could care less. The problem is the coverage of it WHILE THE GAME IS GOING ON. you don’t have to pan to Taylor swift and 10 fucking seconds to get her reaction. It’s annoying.
Can we PLEASE talk about something else now…. I’m tried of hearing about Taylor
I always like Whoopi’s sweatshirt
I wish Whoopi let Alyssa finish her point, instead she got on her high box
Ummm, and Alyssa, I'm a MAN streaming THE VIEW on the INTERNET... you better be GLAD 😂
Joy is cancelled. She called TS “what’s her face.” Come get her, Swifties.
Maybe you're joking, however, Joy is 81.
Relax.😊
@@WhenImBackInChicago old enough to know better.
@@LordIstar
Okay, so, you weren't joking.
Be cool.
Chill.
The internet has more than enough incels:
It's not appropriate for anyone advising others to go after folks, for minor stuff.
@@WhenImBackInChicago of course I’m joking. I thought the absurdity of it all made it clear.
@@LordIstar
It's absurd you typed,
"old enough to know better".
If your reply to me typing her age was kinder, we wouldn't still be having this odd conversation.
Good day.🌼
Look I hate it. But it's not taylor it's the nfl doing this. STOP... play the replay not her reaction!!
Taylor celebrates Her boyfriend
WITH HIS .MOTHER.
WITH HIS MOTHER
I say it is more Conservatism or MAGA toxicity that is to blame. Though, most of those types of trolls are on that side.
And what're MAGA republicans pushing really hard politically ? More misogony in the form of abortion. They just haven't learned.
I totally agree. I doubt there would be this much animosity if she were a 45 supporter, likely because she wouldn't get as much camera time.
@@elizabethmoczygemba9834They would love her if she was a Trump supporter. They are just disgusting and despicable.
No!!! Most maga people are Taylor supporters