SOLVING 5 Modern "Factory System Integration" Challenges! Advanced Car Audio

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  • @CarAudioFabrication
    @CarAudioFabrication  22 дня назад +6

    Hey everyone! If you want to learn more about the topic of advanced car audio integration I recommend watching this video as well -
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    Thanks for watching!

  • @tnt666tnt
    @tnt666tnt 20 дней назад +5

    Around 10 grand later, new DSP, focal active system with Helix DSP, subwoofers, sound deading and I’m completely stuck on integrating my DSP. 2 shops it’s been too and everyone is lost. Finally found someone who is setting me up with a device from Metra to bypass the Bose amplifier. 24 GMC.

  • @firstnamelastnameisallowed7943
    @firstnamelastnameisallowed7943 22 дня назад +5

    That would be nuts to have a exhaust sound playing with active noise canceling all going through your amps and subs while also having the gains crancked all the way up like most guys do! LOL.

  • @BillLambert
    @BillLambert 22 дня назад +5

    I finally installed a decent system in my 2020 Mitsubishi and it was... a learning experience! I wanted to swap in a ridiculous 10" head unit, but when I saw the cost of all the integration gadgets required (iDatalink et al), I noped out of that plan pretty quickly. I ended up keeping the factory radio, with a KeyLOC -> 12ch DSP -> 5ch amp (for now). All things considered, it sounds way better than I expected, so either the noise floor is low enough or my tinnitus is worse than I thought. Either way, this nerd is happy with it. I plan on doing more sound treatment and maybe sneaking a front sub in a few months, when Canada goes back to not-garbage-weather.

  • @weduhpeople8504
    @weduhpeople8504 22 дня назад +8

    My 2024 BMW M340i with the Harmon Kardon audio system I replaced the amp and booster with the Alpha One amp which is an 11 channel class D amp with integrated dsp. To add an additional sub I bought an Audison AFD1 which powers a single JL Audio 10w6-d4 v3 in a custom carbon fiber sealed enclosure made to fit on the trunk’s driver’s side pocket. I also replaced the LCR soeakers with Morel Reference component seperates and the 8” underseat subs are Audison now as a dedicated midbass making my front stage a 3 way setup having each set of drivers play the optimal frequencies they are best at with passive xovers and active xover in the dsp of the Alpha one. It makes the sound stage more defined with better clarity and detail.

    • @RalphMercuroMusic
      @RalphMercuroMusic 22 дня назад

      I am in the middle of the same upgrade. I went straight to the ATF MatchUP 10DSP. I've tuned it with the factory drivers but intend on installing the Morel IR kit and a JL 10W6 sub in the trunk. I have the enclosure on order. My car is a G22 M440i

  • @r_p_m7330
    @r_p_m7330 22 дня назад +1

    In my 2018 F-150. I use FORSCAN to reprogram the trucks computer. To get rid of the roll off bass and factory EQ. You can reprogram it to a flat EQ that sends a 4v output to all the door speaker leads and the one for a factory sub in the c-pillar. Solder on RCA leads to go right to your amps like a Amp pro.

    • @CarAudioFabrication
      @CarAudioFabrication  22 дня назад

      Great example of what I was referring to with the engine noise, not necessarily needed in the F-150 case, but the process of "reflashing" the vehicle is similar. Thanks for sharing!

  • @rustybrown9829
    @rustybrown9829 22 дня назад +1

    Finally, I have something many saying this was not happening. But them subwoofers be hittin when you press the excelleration pedal.

  • @SanchoSanto
    @SanchoSanto 19 дней назад +1

    Have you done a video on how to do sound systems on EVs? I have an all electric Nissan Leaf with Bose system. I checked Crutch Field for options but they don't have any recommendations.

  • @J27M
    @J27M 22 дня назад +1

    What’s up guys. I have a 2002 Opel Astra which is probably a Chevrolet Astra in North America (I don’t think it was even sold in the US). It has steering wheel controls and a blaupunkt oem cd player headunit.
    I love the SWC, but to make them work with an aftermarket head unit, you’re looking at spending ~80 USD for an interface. I won’t be doing this, as I am on a budget.
    However, the car has a 8 speaker system, a speaker and tweeter in every door. A really high end system for 2002, especially for a budget car.
    Most of my experience is with Japanese vehicles, so everything is pretty simple and straightforward; the most complex I’ve come across was in my 91 SW20 MR2 which in higher spec trim had a 5 speaker system, 2 in each door and a small sub box behind the passengers seat.
    Thanks for reading my rant 😂

  • @sebulva
    @sebulva 22 дня назад +1

    Add a resistance for #5, in the same way we do if we add led bulbs for turn signals.. Thanks great video, Regards from Mexico

  • @cleonituk
    @cleonituk 21 день назад +2

    I miss the days of single din head unit swaps. 30 mins or less and done.

  • @ubacow7109
    @ubacow7109 18 дней назад +2

    we need a video on center channel integration

  • @FosterFarmsOk
    @FosterFarmsOk 22 дня назад +14

    for the price of new cars we shouldnt have to modify the radio and speakers just to have good sound.

    • @AdBul_
      @AdBul_ 21 день назад +1

      Most new cars have good enough sound from the factory for 90% of people. You just are in the car audio bubble, and want something better.

    • @MrOdaddy2011
      @MrOdaddy2011 21 день назад +7

      @@AdBul_ true just like airpods/Bluetooth audio quality is good enough for most consumers. Once you hear a pretty good aftermarket sound system though it's hard to go back and say it's good enough

    • @FosterFarmsOk
      @FosterFarmsOk 18 дней назад

      @@AdBul_ a lot of Toyota owners can't even use the built-in navigation because Toyota decided to quit supporting the app. Most factory speakers are terrible.

    • @roddydykes7053
      @roddydykes7053 16 дней назад

      I’ve experienced some wild stock sound systems while working at a luxury car dealership. The Bowers & Wilkins in the Beemer X5M and Volvo XC90 T6 is nuts. The good Bang & Olufsen in the Audi RS lineup is great too.
      Mind you these are crazy expensive vehicles

  • @csvscs
    @csvscs 22 дня назад +1

    I always wondered what it's like to upgrade these newer vehicles as far as head units or anything. The last easy head unit replacement I did I think was on a 2007 CRV. Now I have a 2012 Corolla and I have no idea how you would replace that. So I can't imagine what these newer cars are like. But thanks for breaking it down

    • @melissathompson7229
      @melissathompson7229 22 дня назад

      Quite simple....metra makes the kit and harness. Really basic honestly compared to some newer stuff

    • @ericshaw7859
      @ericshaw7859 15 дней назад

      Or if it's too difficult people just throw in a dsp amplifier with hi resolution bluetooth streaming and throw a controller somewhere on the dash/console and do as they wish. Many dsps still support multiple input sharing so your calls will come in through stock but music will come in through dsp.

  • @Rafy2613
    @Rafy2613 22 дня назад +1

    I have a 2020 Cadillac XT6 with the Bose Performance system. It's been so hard to find anything aftermarket adapters or also anything. I would love to add an JL amp and speakers.

  • @omark2423
    @omark2423 22 дня назад +6

    That's why I hate these newer vehicles.

  • @suguilarry
    @suguilarry 21 день назад

    Hi Mark. First, I would like to say thank you for providing so many helpful videos. I am currently working on a build for my 2024 cadillac. Without being able to upgrade the head unit, I'm planning on running 3 JL Vxi amps 2 for components and 1 for sub. Question is, will adding audio control pre amp components be beneficial or not needed?

  • @marcovaldovinos5009
    @marcovaldovinos5009 21 день назад +1

    Great video

  • @kodrakfk
    @kodrakfk 15 дней назад

    Great man, thank you for the informations !

  • @Theallinonechannel
    @Theallinonechannel 22 дня назад +1

    Hi Mark I like all your videos, which is the best DAP for my Audi 2022 with Bang & Olufsen ? Thanks

  • @AdamJDe
    @AdamJDe 14 дней назад

    Car companies do what is most cheap yet works. They still do low quality paper speakers that get moldy and rot out over time. Ill never not put new speakers and a headunit in. I mostly do kenwood high end head units but the next one im going with a high end sony.

  • @darrylperks6730
    @darrylperks6730 21 день назад

    In addition to what you mentioned about removing the fake exhaust sounds, at least with BMW/Mini you can buy ASD bypass harnesses from the likes of Audison or Match for relatively little cost. I had to do this as the drone from additional sub made driving unbearable.

  • @mglaze0
    @mglaze0 6 дней назад

    These are some interesting products. I've been wondering how I can decouple my sub from the rear output of the factory headunit, and control it independently. Right now if I turn up the bass, I turn up all bass, and sometimes I just want a little more or less bass in the sub without affecting the rest of the speakers, and sometimes I want to adjust the bass in the cabin speakers without making changes to the sub. I don't know why the factory headunits don't automatically come with separate subwoofer control. I have the Genesis G90 Ultimate trim package. Audio is good, but could benefit from that one change.

  • @AdamJDe
    @AdamJDe 14 дней назад

    If youre aiming for quality make sure your phone and head unit support LDAC for Bluetooth! Iphone has aac or something of the lowest quality!

  • @enfermero640
    @enfermero640 20 дней назад

    Hi, My name is David. I have a Toyota tundra 2022 and i put a after market amplifier to my truck and have a loud static noise. I tried to due all you explain on your video, a new ground for the amp and i bought a krystal rca that you recomend and the sound get worse. The question is how can i get rid of this anoying sound. Other thing is the signal from the factoy radio is conected directly to the preamp without loc. I apretiated your

  • @t8erlove
    @t8erlove 22 дня назад +2

    I have an 04 Hyundai Santa Fe with the Monsoon “premium” sound system that has a factory amp and I wanted to just switch the head unit. Because the aftermarket head unit is already amplified I wanted to bypass the factory amp but the adapter doesn’t exist. Any suggestions besides running new speaker wire to each speaker from the new head unit?

    • @melissathompson7229
      @melissathompson7229 22 дня назад +1

      If you just want to install an aftermarket radio just use a 4 channel loc to be able to adjust down the volume so it's not blaring loud at volume 10. Or many new radios have level control built in as well. Otherwise you'll have to run a chunk of 9 conductor speed cable to under the front passenger seat and bypass the amplifier there

  • @stephenshiels5179
    @stephenshiels5179 20 дней назад

    On a fully active system you normally take out the centre channel. Or is it best to keep it. I have a 23 ranger with mObridge intergration.

  • @gregorycalvillo7046
    @gregorycalvillo7046 9 дней назад

    I’m looking to upgrade my speakers on my wife’s 2017 Honda accord sport any suggestions.

  • @TheKmurphy32
    @TheKmurphy32 17 дней назад

    I have a question, not a comment. I have a 2016 GMC Sierra Crew Cab, and I want some more bass out of my stereo. I have no problem replacing the factory speakers, but can I get a sub and not use the space under my seat? I use that area for road service storage.

  • @grahamprescott9426
    @grahamprescott9426 20 дней назад

    I'm trying to fit a system to my ford focus mk4. And some of these issues are coming up. Found out the b&o amp doesn't handle the tweeters or the centre speaker. Front mids go to back. Now thinking I need to run cables to rear from tweeters and sum them with mids as one high level, then dsp, then grab the signal at the door and feed new wires to dash to supply highs from the 2 channels powering the front mid and highs. It's so difficult! My Helix dsp will hopefully cope with creating a load for the old amp to run normally....

  • @flight2339
    @flight2339 22 дня назад

    I have a 2024 rav4 limited which came with the JBL system. It was the only rav4 available in my area and the wait would be 6 mo to a year. The audio quality is pretty lame but the head unit itself is fine. Plus there is no recommended head unit options as far as I know. I really just want to swap out the amp and speakers and add a line output converter. according to crutchfield there is no solution they can recommend. Maybe someone or even mark knows something I appreciate it 🤙

  • @RalphMercuroMusic
    @RalphMercuroMusic 22 дня назад

    There seems to be pretty good aftermarket support for late model BMW's...

  • @franciscosahagunjr6792
    @franciscosahagunjr6792 22 дня назад

    Im actually have a problem similar to the last segment in this video. 2020 freightliner cascadia plays lane departure sounds through front speakers. The factory speakers had 4 prongs. After I upgraded I constantly get left or right speaker problem detection. Really annoying.
    Speaker still works but the on screen flash’s constantly. They shop who installed wired all 4 wires to the 2 prong after market speakers. This just gave me constant speaker problem detactions

  • @junathancarolissen623
    @junathancarolissen623 20 дней назад

    Hi got a question checking ur preout voltage with a multimeter do you add the voltage u get from the one rca coming out by x2 or does it stay the same.like if on input of rcs left read 2.6v and the and right side read 2.6v does it make it 5.2v ourput or does it stay 2.6v....

  • @corymcnamara0309
    @corymcnamara0309 6 дней назад

    Crutchfield master list for my 2024 nissan sentra sv premium was wrong and in the end the told me my car was to new and to hard to come by for them to have all the info on the wiring of factory amp and did not want to help me in my wiring issues.

  • @jre-web
    @jre-web 16 дней назад

    Is it ok to use factory harman kardon subwoofer wires to use as a high level input for a mono sub amp?

  • @dannybordelon2494
    @dannybordelon2494 22 дня назад +1

    Damn you just made me not wanting to my factory unit in my 2006 Silverado.

    • @CarAudioFabrication
      @CarAudioFabrication  22 дня назад +5

      06 Is nearly 20 years old. Very easy to install into, but might as well just install an aftermarket head unit! Easy!

    • @melissathompson7229
      @melissathompson7229 22 дня назад +1

      One of the easiest vehicles to do anything to. But as Mark said, replace that ancient thing with a new double din. They look awesome and work so much better than a 20 year old OEM cd player

  • @bygboie
    @bygboie 21 день назад

    By any chance have you installed an aftermarket amp and subs in a 23' Mitsubishi Outlander SE basically a Nissan rouge?

  • @killer32620
    @killer32620 22 дня назад

    gets more complicated with newer vehicles these days I didnt know about the signal correction thing from the anc mics all I thought it did was just make the hum through it I just went under the dash and pulled the plug to the anc module on my car dont know if it helped or not

  • @makaveli0615
    @makaveli0615 12 дней назад

    I just installed a new in dash touchscreen radio but my rear deck speakers aren't working. The front and back door speakers work though. I have a 2006 Ford Five Hundred Limited with 6 speakers. Help!!!

  • @garciamario128
    @garciamario128 22 дня назад

    Do you have a video explaining how to replace a set of component factory speakers for coaxial speakers?

    • @CarAudioFabrication
      @CarAudioFabrication  22 дня назад +1

      I have a video coming up about the JL Audio C3 Convertible Coaxial/Component Speakers I think you will enjoy! Thanks for tuning in.

    • @Summertime963
      @Summertime963 21 день назад

      @@CarAudioFabrication any information on how to get a clean signal for a subwoofer amp in a 2021+ Yukon Denali, Tahoe, Escalade

  • @who-ge1gu
    @who-ge1gu 5 дней назад

    My new ranger had the fake exhaust noise that got annoying after I installed a sub. The dealer said they would charge $150 to see IF it can be turned of. I did it in 5 minutes with Forscan. F*** those dealerships.

  • @biggdofficial
    @biggdofficial 19 дней назад

    In my vehicle the volume jumps up once I open the car doors, this wasn't a problem until I got a DSP. A few days ago while we were playing music at our max volume (75%) the volume boosted after we open the doors and sent my subwoofers into mayhem. What's the fix ?

  • @broderp
    @broderp 18 дней назад

    All those fixes are so large. Modern cars are tightly packed with little space to neatly add aftermarket components. I wish you would do more videos for those of us who want good sound, but do not want to add 300lbs of wood and metal boxes to our cars. Consider something like looking at a "highend" OEM system and how to cost effectively upgrade it, only where it's needed. I know high end and OEM are very subjective, but for example...I like the JBL system in my 2024 Prius, but wish it had a little more bottom end. The louder you turn it up, the less bass is produced. I know this is programmed into the radio to minimize distortion. I would be happy with just adding a small sub that would fill in where the factory speakers roll off, especially rally when it is electronically cut. I don't need more volume, I dont want 300watts, just clean sound to compliment and complete the factory system. Do that system.

  • @rustybrown9829
    @rustybrown9829 22 дня назад

    I just removed the microphones in a 2023 malibu. 4 of them and then your good

  • @yugotime1598
    @yugotime1598 22 дня назад

    What really sucks is when you own a vehicle you can't do shit to because there are no aftermarket solutions and you can't do it on your own because the vehicle driving modes somehow are intertwined into the factory radio. You can go about it in certain ways but you must move certain buttons to another location in the vehicle. You gotta cut stuff up. Vehicle is a 2012 Regal GS with the Harmon Kardon Audio.

    • @ahberlowkz852
      @ahberlowkz852 22 дня назад +2

      @yugotime1598 Do a completely stand alone system. Hide the head unit under a seat or in the center console. There's some really small head units that were made for use on motorcycles.

    • @melissathompson7229
      @melissathompson7229 22 дня назад

      What do you mean? Metra makes the dash kit and interface to add a new head unit and keep all of your factory options functional

    • @yugotime1598
      @yugotime1598 22 дня назад

      @melissathompson7229 correct, but not for the GS with HK audio, and no you can't just force it to work either.

    • @yugotime1598
      @yugotime1598 22 дня назад

      @ahberlowkz852 doing that I would have to manage integration with the OEM unit still, or else the vehicle sets all sorts of random codes. These can not be cleared or simply turned off. It sucks. This is the worst vehicle I've ever had to work with and I've begrudgingly left it all stock die to this.

    • @melissathompson7229
      @melissathompson7229 22 дня назад

      ​@@yugotime1598works fine on the GS. If it's OEM color screen then it won't interface to HK but if it was my car I'd gut that and do new speakers and amplifiers personally

  • @XBlackOmniX
    @XBlackOmniX 22 дня назад +4

    Acura owner here. I own a TLX 2017. Honda is notorious for having like a 3-second delay coming from the head unit while using bluetooth. Is there a way to bypass this? Apparently it's a bug or something. There hasn't been an update in years to correct this issue. Would a DSP work?

  • @thaostrich
    @thaostrich 21 день назад

    I am so tired of these complicated systems in modern cars. I decided to just be basic and add a sub and amp to my JBL system in my 2020 Toyota. I ran into issue #5 with the sub output. Had to wire some 25 ohm resistors in with my LOC, otherwise the signal would modulate in intensity on a 20 second cycle.

  • @swurtz060506
    @swurtz060506 22 дня назад

    What do you recommend using to integrate an aftermarket amp into a 2019 for flex. There is no replacement for the factory head unit.

    • @melissathompson7229
      @melissathompson7229 22 дня назад +3

      Idatalink Maestro makes a kit for either head unit you have. The 4.2 inch screen or the 8 inch screen. And they look and function incredibly well

    • @swurtz060506
      @swurtz060506 21 день назад

      @@melissathompson7229 Wow! I didn't know this was made! Out with the factory and in with the Alpine!! Thank you so much!!

    • @melissathompson7229
      @melissathompson7229 21 день назад

      ​@@swurtz060506you're welcome

  • @Armand-v5c
    @Armand-v5c 22 дня назад

    Seems like we’ll have a secondary stereo in the glove compartment unfortunately

    • @CarAudioFabrication
      @CarAudioFabrication  22 дня назад +1

      A good way around a lot of this is a seperate DSP tune that just uses a signal from a high res player or even a phone

  • @jondonnelly3
    @jondonnelly3 16 дней назад

    It's a bit problem and there are no good solutions. Factory headunits always are heavily eq'ed and clean sound from high level from budget dac in head unit is not possible. Any serious audiophile will bypass the headunit. That is the only viable solution. The best way to bypass is use an old phone or Android dsp player and usb to a dac/preamp or dsp amp with at least 96HZ/24bit input with a controller unit. Trying to de'eq sound it as totally waste of time and money as it won't be high res when done and every time you process sound you lose detail. Garbage in, Garbage out. LDAC Bluetooth built into a dsp/amp is probably the future, and hack the steering wheel controls using to control the phone.

  • @paulstanton6104
    @paulstanton6104 22 дня назад

    Seems stupid to have V8 sounds played thru the speakers versus just getting the V8 in the first place.

  • @MitchDenham
    @MitchDenham 22 дня назад

    I have a base model 2012 Toyota LandCruiser Prado 150. Because it’s a base model, it just had a basic head unit. It was so easy to replace it with a nicer unit, and to add an amp and subwoofer, and replace all the speakers.
    Compared to the GXL and higher spec models, it’s (reportedly) SUCH a massive faff to replace the head unit and do any audio system upgrades due to the added (shitty) OEM amplifier and integration with climate control. The GX has none of that shit. #BaseModelBestModel

  • @Luciferkrist
    @Luciferkrist 21 день назад

    Modern vehicles are a nightmare for having fun. Sure, they have some cool features, but they are usually done in the absolute dumbest ways and are definitely not built to last.

  • @syflg1889
    @syflg1889 20 дней назад

    Great video