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The driving experience you mentioned with the weighted rear end swinging out is the same with all M/R cars. They are meant to brake early then apply even power through the apex. It takes a keen driver to get the most out of a M/R setup, but when you do, there is nothing like it. This is the same reason Porsche is legendary for early braking, due to the weight tansfer, so the corner flows smooth. FWD have the added benefit of mechanical grip, and are infinitely more forgiving. You can just power off in a corner if you come in over speed and off apex, and the weight will allow the tires to grip once wheel speed is down. In an M/R car, if you do that, the instant reverse weight transfer will cause you to spin. Good vid either way, though I'm not sure this will get read. lol
I agree with most of your points, but fwd having some advantage of mechanical grip? That doesn't seem likely with the front tires doing all the work.by the time the wheel speed is down enough to have grip again the rear drive car will have been down to the the next turn.
Absolutely right! The 3rd gen MR2 compliments a more advanced driver. I bought my first one at age 20 and it taught me to respect the law of balance and how to shift the weight throughout a turn. They have a high grip threshold but once you’ve reached the limits of your tires you better keep calm, slam the gas and counter steer
All I can do is laugh at that ridiculous intake on the S2000. He actually heat wrapped the intake tube, yet left the intake open to the hot engine compartment instead of using the factory cold air box. Never mind removing the air filter which is pretty stupid, especially on a street car.
I bought a MR2 new in 2001. Very fun car. I bought a S2000 new in 2002 and sold the MR2. The S2000 still sits in my garage to this day with 7,500 miles on it. Both fun cars but stock the MR2 can’t compare to the S2000s high revving 9000 rpm redline engine.
Hi Danny was interesting to hear your opinion against the s2k, I originally built the Toyonda instead of buying an s2k, three years ago the build cost was the same as a stock s2k. Mr2 are not the easiest car to drive on the limit but that's half the fun learning new skills and adapting. It's great car on the track shame you didn't have time to find the limits. 😉 1 more sub.
If you were to go for an lsd and few other mods these little cars are a plague for other contenders and the originality as apposed to just buying a manufacturer built car is what we all need to see more of 👍
Just got to drive it like a mid engined car. Slower turn-in earlier power out. MR2s are just great and I can only imagine what a v-tec MR2 is like. Great video. Luv and Peace.
Track day, Toyonda, daily, S2000. That MR2 with big fat rear tires, a Supercharger, and a little bit more dialed in suspension/Sway bar setup though, and you have a beast of a car. I guess the same could be said for the S2000, but I would rather have something that feels like a baby supercar, which, with the mid-rear engined MR2, it would kind of feel like
Mr2 hands down. Rear Mid-engine RWD and lightweight. Great base for a very fast and nimble car with a low center of gravity and with a weight distribution that if you know how to drive it will reward you well. The s2000 is NICE no doubt but the the learning curve and reward for the driver is a bit higher in the mr2 for me. There's just something about that engine being behind u that makes the car feel legit.
If the mrs k20 tuned right.. it is a monster.. 215 in the rear is too narrow.. need 225 to 245. I had every mr2 there is... theres a special way to drive the mr2 hard.. but most people dont know how... it tooked me many years and crashing many times to figured out 😂😂 i say the mrsk20 is a way better car then a s2k if u ask me... thats just my opinion.
isaac garcia yes it does. I spun out a few times from lack of experience when I was a rookie driver. I’ve gotten to the point now were I managed to save potential heavy wrecks due to me knowing how to make throttle and steering corrections instantly.
Owned both, had an MR-S and then bought an S2000. The MR was a really fun car to drive but i much prefer the S2000. There is just something about the Honda that puts a smile on my face everytime i drive it
With that logic the SW20 MR2 could be considered rear engined too as the engine is slanted backwards causing the top of the engine to get above the rear axles.
I'm just surprised that handling-wise this wasn't a complete blowout in favor of the mr2. Huge weight advantage + some of the stickiest street tires you can buy should've translated into a huge difference in overall performance. Now that I'm typing this, however, I remembered that *R888s are notorious for having terrible grip with cold ambient temperatures*
In the middle of rebuilding my k20 supercharged Elise, 600 ish bhp in 730kg it's a weapon! Will give you a shout when it's up and running hopefully early new year (ring in may is the goal) if you fancy a go ;)
He has a point about stability, the mr2 to me aslo feels loose in the back unless you add a big wing. Once you add a wing I've noticed much more rear grip which is where you need it in that car
It's great to hear a Yorkshire voice on a vid like this! I also have a stock S2000, but it's a 2005 with the F20C2 engine, same rev limit but a few uprated components like the valve retainers. Also suspension is different, less tail happy than the early S2000's. Also, when I got mine at 92,000 miles the rear drop links were a bit worn and I replaced them with Hardrace drop links. This has made a big difference to handling, feels a lot better when accelerating hard out of corners. Absolutely love my S2k
I'm so conflicted on japanese sports cars. I had an SW20 mr2 for 5 years. I loved that car. It was great to drive and totally reliable. I owned it for 80,000 miles and it went to 140,000 miles. The sills rusted away and despite two years of welding it never recovered. Almost everything else about it worked. Pop up headlamps., Engine, Electric Windows, T-Bar never leaked, Stereo etc. Toyota knew how to make great cars at that time. I even managed to sell it for a few hundred because the leather interior was perfect. But here's the thing. I bought a BMW 2002 320i It has less HP (advertised) than the mr2. It's way faster. That MR2 engine was great and it loved revs. Above about 5400rpm it was a flying machine. The BMW is like that anywhere above 2000 and there's an appreciable bump at about 4500. I loved my mr2 but if I was going to own one again I'd have to do the V6 swap. Maybe Tubo it at some point. :-) I just want a really good looking t-top again. I miss my MR2. Luv and Peace.
Update : I bought a BMW Z4 a few years back. It's s2.5 SI M sport version. About 215HP and M suspension. It goes really well and is a blast to drive. Not fast by today's standards but with the sports suspension its pretty quick over b roads and I'm regularly held up by much faster hot hatches. The I6 N52 is torquey and has double vanos so revs to 7000 and makes power all the way to redline. It's intoxicating to drive. It has good torque at 2500 rpm but sings if you floor it. Such a good engine and lightweight too. It's a Magnesium head and an aluminium block. I feel like the next car I have has to have at least 300hp and Ideally be mid engined again. The z4 has the engine very far back and is close to front mid engined but not quite. weight is till about 50/50. I need a Porsche Boxster 3.4s That's the bottom line. Luv and Peace.
Close, but a tuned car is always going to require more attention to keep it in top form compared to one that is pretty much stock So if you want sporting performance and don't like fiddling with your car all the time, the S2K is probably the choice. But for many, working on the car is half the fun of ownership. For them, the Toyonda might be the way to go. Still, when I owned my S2000 I could never walk away from it without taking a glance back and smiling. Not sure I would get that from the Toyota no matter its performance.
Hey man, fellow MX5 owner here. You want a directional mono lav mic. The stereo one you have noe has a large pick up pattern going around it. Ideal when you want to pick up all sounds in an environment, or a conference room full of people and you need to get from all directions. A mono for voice, pointed towards your mouth only should isolate the sound to where you point it.
Thanks man! Makes sense really, the shotgun mic I have on the main camera really does only pickup where you point it... I tried it in car once but found that it would still catch quite a lot of sounds. Will try a smaller lav mic though for sure.
Haha that's not how it works, you don't see Clarkson on Top Gear with one of those ear mounted microphones. I think they're only popular for performing artists who need the movement. Lavalier mics are the ones, just like the one I'm wearing in the video, though mine cost £20 and the professional ones can cost over 10x that.
Guys that's not really how mics work. Think of a mic as an ear, directional mic (cardioid) would work in a similar way as a single ear. You can try what it would pick up by closing the other ear and hearing what's coming in. Obviously directional mic picks up less than the omnidirectional one, though in TV and movies etc. they mostly use omnidirectional mics (DPAs for 500EUR for example), they do pick up a lot of the ambient sound though, you can't just remove it like that. I think the audio in the car was actually pretty good, even in the MR2.
Dylan G unfortunately that is neither, and as someone who builds and dyno’s Honda engines for a living I know how harmful that pipe will be to power....
hey dan, just managed to catch up on your channel, your opinion to the mr2k20, vs s2k is highly accurate, ive had the chance to drive a mates mr2 with the 2zz celica 190hp engine, the feeling was similar, however i would say the mr2 is more fun and the closest thing to a kart. financial wise many people would just go out and get a s2k as they are very firm on the market right now, but these mr2 swaps are pretty impressive! loving the channel right now, keep the video's coming, cheers fazzeg3
One of the best videos you made, you can tell you have great ideas an a winning concept, just the time and the resouces and it would be out of this world! This is my favorite video you made upp there along the e36 vs dc2 on cadwell (that track is amazing,, only thing i drive in Pcars 2 and AC :P). One year ill join u at the ring/cadwell park!
It's not more stable, it's just rear mid engined so you have to do all your breaking in a straight line then get in the gas at the ENTRANCE of the corner.
You should never attach the seat belts to the floor in a bucket seat cause that means in a crash they pull you downwards instead of backwards. Just saying
I'm happy with the sound quality! Your dialogue is perfectly audible. The background noises (engine, vibrations, etc) aren't instrusive and add to the immersion of the video. The lavalier style (what you currently have) is probably the optimum layout if you want to minimise background noises as the mic is nearest to the audio source (your voice) you intend on recording. I appreciate wires can be cumbersome. There are wireless lavalier options but are typically very expensive and introduces more things to go wrong. Do some experimenting of different mic setups for yourself. Probably the most common mid-engine cars I see are porsche boxsters.
i am personally keeping 1zz ge and focusing on losing weight and good brakes, wheels and tyres. It outbrakes and outcornes just about everything this side of elise, more power just feels like a way to hide bad driving
Not really, 1zz is bulletproof. And I don't do retarded pointless drag races, I do circuit. Its about weight, cornering ability and driver and power number is irrelevant.
Hey Danny. You got the thumbs up just as the intro was coming through the headphones.👍👍 Fantastic recommendation by DOHCtor W and great execution by the "One Man Band".👏 I loved the couple of exterior shots, but those are tough to pull off by yourself. You have to fly by (and not fuck it up), race out of the frame, then go back and hope some crackhead hasn't come by and stolen your "free camera". Or even worse, the French Polis watching the vid when you get back.😂 At any rate, you gave us some great clips. Awesome review. If the S2000 felt just a bit faster on the straights, it's probably because those tires are so RAPID.😲😶 (Please don't ban me for the corny jokes). Honestly, I've been looking at S2000s for several months. I'm in no position to buy at the moment, and this video certainly didn't make the urge go away. I think they are great cars and I may own one some day. BTW, not in the same price range, but the Boxster and Cayman are mid-engine. Between these two, it looks like you were torn on making a decision. For a stocker, the S2K is tough to beat, but the K20 MRS is a special little beast that must be respected! I appreciate your honesty in these vlogs, mate. You don't sugarcoat it... just tell it like it is.👌 Cheers, bro!
Really good video. The problem with all these wonderful cars, in standard trim, is that they are loss leaders for the manufacturers. They struggled to sell that many of either. The MX5 had the affordable market licked for two decades and the Z4 and Boxster cornered the market for the mid-performance sports cars. The MR2 could have handled 200 bhp easily rather than 138 but it would have sold very few. All credit to the guy who modified it. Even in standard form they were great (apart for shopping) Two magic cars, with the Honda S2000 now appreciating.
The mr2 is 2200...the s2000 is 2800. That’s a huge difference in weight. If hp are exactly the same the mr2 is gonna smoke the s2000. On top of that you have crappy tires on the s2000, so the video is t exactly a great comparison. Great information and edit but the test subjects are a bit bias.
HP was not the same, the S2000 has around 240bhp, the MR2 has around 200bhp. The power to weight ratios are very similar. Agreed about the tyres, they were interesting to say the least. Still very closely matched on the road though. I think on a track the MR2 would walk away, mostly because of its better tyres and lower weight.
probably not. the s2k does have a double wishbone suspension up front as opposed to the mr2's McPherson strut system. The sk2 also has a very good weight distribution...
I don’t know CRAP about microphones but my ignorant suggestion would be to get a helmet with Bluetooth?? Logically I would expect the helmet to block out all the road/engine noise pretty well and if the mic is inside the helmet I’d have to imagine it would pick up your voice pretty well. Just an idea
What about a MK2 MR2 turbo K20?! Building one very soon with a friend of yours, should follow the build aswell as maybe in the future do a nice little review or drive of the car, your more than welcome :)
Cool comparison. It's a hard one to choose one car built to be as good as another stock car but cost more. But then again don't we build them to be original. Cool josh got an s2000 though. Sadly one car I can never own being 6 foot 7. Took a ride in one once my legs don't go under dash so knees were almost as high as the top of window. Funnier than hell though. Great video.
Lots of mid engine sports cars. Almost to the point of being overdone. There's: Elise, Exige, MR-2 Spyder, 718, R8, C8, Lamborghini, Ferrari, and McLaren. And looky here, I almost forget the Alfa 4c... These cars pretty much span the entire price range.
Since i dont really like the mrs looks id go s2000. But if it would be a sw20 MR2 it would be a hard choice. Or a aw11...i just love boxy 80's cars with pop ups and huge taillights.
What's the difference between the JDM and UK spec S2000 engines? I have an imported JDM AP1, had no idea the UK engine was different until watching this...
Hi Dan, need your advice on what clutch cable that you use for your mrs zzw30 with Hybrid racing shifter with k20 integra dc5 6 speed gearbox. I'm currently using hybrid racing v3 shifter with K-tuned race shifter cable but the shifting requires quite a bit of efford shift gear, just wondering how to reduce force required to shift gear. Thanks a lot
@DannyDC2 what is the difference between those Advan tyres and Federal 595 rsr? I'm running now on federal's but I'm really thinking of changing them for ad08r model. As I remember You were driving on 595rsr too? Thanks!
I could moan and criticise about your not taking into account the inability to fully adjust suspension geometry settings as standard on the MR2, comparable weight distribution etc. but the video was very enjoyable overall! You missed out the Boxster's direct competitor the Boxster as a mid-engine sports car, that incidentally isn't as engaging to drive from my experience.
the Amuse / J's racing s2000 is the one of 2 models of car to compete in the touge in japan against the Turbo class's Nsx-R was the other, i think s2000 handles way better coming from an Ex owner of one an also a sw20 with k24
There is a learning curve with mid-engine cars. To get around the corner better you need to put your foot ON the gas for balance and stability. Too much though and it spins out.
The driving experience you mentioned with the weighted rear end swinging out is the same with all M/R cars. They are meant to brake early then apply even power through the apex. It takes a keen driver to get the most out of a M/R setup, but when you do, there is nothing like it. This is the same reason Porsche is legendary for early braking, due to the weight tansfer, so the corner flows smooth. FWD have the added benefit of mechanical grip, and are infinitely more forgiving. You can just power off in a corner if you come in over speed and off apex, and the weight will allow the tires to grip once wheel speed is down. In an M/R car, if you do that, the instant reverse weight transfer will cause you to spin. Good vid either way, though I'm not sure this will get read. lol
ahh, so this is why I love my FWD car :"]
I agree with most of your points, but fwd having some advantage of mechanical grip? That doesn't seem likely with the front tires doing all the work.by the time the wheel speed is down enough to have grip again the rear drive car will have been down to the the next turn.
Borninvincibl3 FPV but it’s true. FWD cars do have better grip. That’s why they get much more understeer due to all the weight in the front.
I read it and i am happy that i did, because i will get an mr2
Absolutely right!
The 3rd gen MR2 compliments a more advanced driver. I bought my first one at age 20 and it taught me to respect the law of balance and how to shift the weight throughout a turn. They have a high grip threshold but once you’ve reached the limits of your tires you better keep calm, slam the gas and counter steer
Funny they wrap the s2k intake in gold heat shielding yet has it sucking air directly behind the 190 degree radiator.
Ja Lee it’s no wonder the S2K has no midrange with that ‘intake’ setup😬
which is why I always modify the stock airbox to fit an aftermarket intake pipe. It separates the hot air and feeds fresh air to the pipe
As someone who owns and loves their S2000, a 2zz/k20 swap MRS is a dream track car
have you driven a k20 spyder?
All I can do is laugh at that ridiculous intake on the S2000. He actually heat wrapped the intake tube, yet left the intake open to the hot engine compartment instead of using the factory cold air box. Never mind removing the air filter which is pretty stupid, especially on a street car.
LEL yeah, best intake is just a modded stock airbox
@@philspaghet stock box with K&N filters. Unless you need a custom air-intake & filter setup due to custom parts etc. Say engine swap etc.
I’d have the MR2 I think for sheer silliness and being an oddball. As for looks and a package the s2000 is great as is.
Jason Day no u wouldn't.
I bought a MR2 new in 2001. Very fun car. I bought a S2000 new in 2002 and sold the MR2. The S2000 still sits in my garage to this day with 7,500 miles on it. Both fun cars but stock the MR2 can’t compare to the S2000s high revving 9000 rpm redline engine.
But we talking about a k20 swapped mrspyder
Hi Danny was interesting to hear your opinion against the s2k, I originally built the Toyonda instead of buying an s2k, three years ago the build cost was the same as a stock s2k. Mr2 are not the easiest car to drive on the limit but that's half the fun learning new skills and adapting. It's great car on the track shame you didn't have time to find the limits. 😉 1 more sub.
If you were to go for an lsd and few other mods these little cars are a plague for other contenders and the originality as apposed to just buying a manufacturer built car is what we all need to see more of 👍
Just got to drive it like a mid engined car.
Slower turn-in earlier power out.
MR2s are just great and I can only imagine what a v-tec MR2 is like.
Great video.
Luv and Peace.
nice "hot air intake" on that S2000
I remember the MR2 (or MRS) smashing the leader board on gunsai touge. The chassis is so capable but needs an engine to make the most of it.
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For a car on knackered old budget tyres...it behaves like a car on knackered old budget tyres.
Track day, Toyonda, daily, S2000. That MR2 with big fat rear tires, a Supercharger, and a little bit more dialed in suspension/Sway bar setup though, and you have a beast of a car. I guess the same could be said for the S2000, but I would rather have something that feels like a baby supercar, which, with the mid-rear engined MR2, it would kind of feel like
Mr2 hands down. Rear Mid-engine RWD and lightweight. Great base for a very fast and nimble car with a low center of gravity and with a weight distribution that if you know how to drive it will reward you well. The s2000 is NICE no doubt but the the learning curve and reward for the driver is a bit higher in the mr2 for me. There's just something about that engine being behind u that makes the car feel legit.
So I assume you track your MR and have various podiums and are an established driver to make such claims?
@@alejandroochoa3541 yes obviously when I give my opinions its to be misconstrued as an objective analysis.
Still think id pick s2k even tho that little MR2 looks sick!!!
3rd gen mr2s look absolutely mental with a proper widebody kit
@@byrontucker3296 serious man, one of the best looking cars imo. They look fucking amazing
The Toyonda is the one that I'd like to drive but the S2000 is the one I'd rather own.
Good stuff Dan.
The thumb nail reminds me of the olds touge battle vids with keiichi tsuchiya and orido
If the mrs k20 tuned right.. it is a monster.. 215 in the rear is too narrow.. need 225 to 245. I had every mr2 there is... theres a special way to drive the mr2 hard.. but most people dont know how... it tooked me many years and crashing many times to figured out 😂😂 i say the mrsk20 is a way better car then a s2k if u ask me... thats just my opinion.
...As in 🤔😎?. (I had a aw11 MR2 supercharger) I so miss 😕 the mid-engine layout, and rwd !.
So it takes many crashes too learn?
isaac garcia yes it does. I spun out a few times from lack of experience when I was a rookie driver. I’ve gotten to the point now were I managed to save potential heavy wrecks due to me knowing how to make throttle and steering corrections instantly.
It is a great car. Needs mods but even stock the Cornering is the best.
Owned both, had an MR-S and then bought an S2000. The MR was a really fun car to drive but i much prefer the S2000. There is just something about the Honda that puts a smile on my face everytime i drive it
Same here, went from a 2004 MR-S to a 2008 S2000. I adored the MR-S but it is just no comparison to the S2000, looks, performance and status wise.
Dan come down to us at R2 automotive and check out our Mr-s k20 260bhp one also have some other vehicles you maybe interested in 🖒
Dowler-895Ep3 +1 do it Danny
A mid-engine car doesn't imply that the engine is behind the driver, it. Just. Means the engine is between the axles
Front midship engine means engine in front behind the axles. Mid engine means behind driver but in front of rear axles.
*Cough* AMG GT-R
@Kirk Lazarus Seeing as the engine was inside the wheelbase, it certainly was/is.
With that logic the SW20 MR2 could be considered rear engined too as the engine is slanted backwards causing the top of the engine to get above the rear axles.
Put an air filter on that poor old S2000!
Looks like a PRM intake, which has a cylinder shaped filter within it
I'm just surprised that handling-wise this wasn't a complete blowout in favor of the mr2. Huge weight advantage + some of the stickiest street tires you can buy should've translated into a huge difference in overall performance. Now that I'm typing this, however, I remembered that *R888s are notorious for having terrible grip with cold ambient temperatures*
The noises from the intro clip tho 🤘🏽
+TheHK2127 glad someone said that. I was going to use music but stumbled on those 4 cylinder sounds while on pornhub earlier.
yeah i need new pants before the video even really started
TheHK2127 thought my phone broke😂
best motoring !
S2000 is better looking, K24 swapped MR2 with a strong tune would rock!
In the middle of rebuilding my k20 supercharged Elise, 600 ish bhp in 730kg it's a weapon! Will give you a shout when it's up and running hopefully early new year (ring in may is the goal) if you fancy a go ;)
I will definitely crash it
He has a point about stability, the mr2 to me aslo feels loose in the back unless you add a big wing. Once you add a wing I've noticed much more rear grip which is where you need it in that car
Keep up the good work bud and yes another camera for some external shots would be great but I appreciate they don’t grow on trees 😂
It's great to hear a Yorkshire voice on a vid like this! I also have a stock S2000, but it's a 2005 with the F20C2 engine, same rev limit but a few uprated components like the valve retainers. Also suspension is different, less tail happy than the early S2000's. Also, when I got mine at 92,000 miles the rear drop links were a bit worn and I replaced them with Hardrace drop links. This has made a big difference to handling, feels a lot better when accelerating hard out of corners. Absolutely love my S2k
they're great cars man :) I wish you many happy miles!
I'm so conflicted on japanese sports cars. I had an SW20 mr2 for 5 years. I loved that car. It was great to drive and totally reliable. I owned it for 80,000 miles and it went to 140,000 miles.
The sills rusted away and despite two years of welding it never recovered. Almost everything else about it worked. Pop up headlamps., Engine, Electric Windows, T-Bar never leaked, Stereo etc.
Toyota knew how to make great cars at that time.
I even managed to sell it for a few hundred because the leather interior was perfect.
But here's the thing.
I bought a BMW 2002 320i
It has less HP (advertised) than the mr2.
It's way faster.
That MR2 engine was great and it loved revs. Above about 5400rpm it was a flying machine.
The BMW is like that anywhere above 2000 and there's an appreciable bump at about 4500.
I loved my mr2 but if I was going to own one again I'd have to do the V6 swap.
Maybe Tubo it at some point.
:-)
I just want a really good looking t-top again.
I miss my MR2.
Luv and Peace.
Update : I bought a BMW Z4 a few years back. It's s2.5 SI M sport version. About 215HP and M suspension.
It goes really well and is a blast to drive.
Not fast by today's standards but with the sports suspension its pretty quick over b roads and I'm regularly held up by much faster hot hatches.
The I6 N52 is torquey and has double vanos so revs to 7000 and makes power all the way to redline.
It's intoxicating to drive.
It has good torque at 2500 rpm but sings if you floor it.
Such a good engine and lightweight too. It's a Magnesium head and an aluminium block.
I feel like the next car I have has to have at least 300hp and Ideally be mid engined again.
The z4 has the engine very far back and is close to front mid engined but not quite.
weight is till about 50/50.
I need a Porsche Boxster 3.4s
That's the bottom line.
Luv and Peace.
Heard somewhere where they swap Toyota celica engines into mr2s and they get 240hp, is this true and someone with more knowledge explain
Close, but a tuned car is always going to require more attention to keep it in top form compared to one that is pretty much stock So if you want sporting performance and don't like fiddling with your car all the time, the S2K is probably the choice. But for many, working on the car is half the fun of ownership. For them, the Toyonda might be the way to go.
Still, when I owned my S2000 I could never walk away from it without taking a glance back and smiling. Not sure I would get that from the Toyota no matter its performance.
Agreed Mike, the S2000 is the better package for those who just want to get out there and drive, or just have something pretty sat in the garage!
I have an engine swapped civic [tsx engine] that has been worry free for over 4 years :D
Not going to lie, I have been looking forward to this video.
Hey man, fellow MX5 owner here.
You want a directional mono lav mic. The stereo one you have noe has a large pick up pattern going around it. Ideal when you want to pick up all sounds in an environment, or a conference room full of people and you need to get from all directions.
A mono for voice, pointed towards your mouth only should isolate the sound to where you point it.
Thanks man! Makes sense really, the shotgun mic I have on the main camera really does only pickup where you point it... I tried it in car once but found that it would still catch quite a lot of sounds. Will try a smaller lav mic though for sure.
DannyDC2 Give it a go, buy cheap and see what happens. Just remember a cheap mic closer to the source (your voice) is better than a good mic far away
Haha that's not how it works, you don't see Clarkson on Top Gear with one of those ear mounted microphones. I think they're only popular for performing artists who need the movement. Lavalier mics are the ones, just like the one I'm wearing in the video, though mine cost £20 and the professional ones can cost over 10x that.
DannyDC2 I think he's thinking of binaural sound. Which is 100% not needed
Guys that's not really how mics work. Think of a mic as an ear, directional mic (cardioid) would work in a similar way as a single ear. You can try what it would pick up by closing the other ear and hearing what's coming in. Obviously directional mic picks up less than the omnidirectional one, though in TV and movies etc. they mostly use omnidirectional mics (DPAs for 500EUR for example), they do pick up a lot of the ambient sound though, you can't just remove it like that.
I think the audio in the car was actually pretty good, even in the MR2.
That intake on the s2k will be sucking in hot air from behind the rad which will absolutely kill the power, needs a cold air intake!
with no filter. Oh dear.
its funny how people think a induction kit is a cold air intake, its just not lol
Dylan G unfortunately that is neither, and as someone who builds and dyno’s Honda engines for a living I know how harmful that pipe will be to power....
Dan Webster I wasnt knocking you mate, fair enough
Dylan G I didn’t think you were no worries 👍
Todays market, i would say mr2 is a better buy since you can get a stock one for £500 meanwhile s2000 price continues to go up beyond 8k
The original Toyota Previa was mid-engined! Awesome vid as per usual, look forward to seeing more on the S2000.
hey dan, just managed to catch up on your channel, your opinion to the mr2k20, vs s2k is highly accurate, ive had the chance to drive a mates mr2 with the 2zz celica 190hp engine, the feeling was similar, however i would say the mr2 is more fun and the closest thing to a kart. financial wise many people would just go out and get a s2k as they are very firm on the market right now, but these mr2 swaps are pretty impressive! loving the channel right now, keep the video's coming, cheers fazzeg3
One of the best videos you made, you can tell you have great ideas an a winning concept, just the time and the resouces and it would be out of this world! This is my favorite video you made upp there along the e36 vs dc2 on cadwell (that track is amazing,, only thing i drive in Pcars 2 and AC :P). One year ill join u at the ring/cadwell park!
The Celica 2zz 190 is a common swap in Mr2 roadsters, I would like to know how it compares to the k20.
Mr2 spyders dominate the track and are getting more recognition in recent years and with a hardtop look better than an s2k imo
It's not more stable, it's just rear mid engined so you have to do all your breaking in a straight line then get in the gas at the ENTRANCE of the corner.
The mr2 is designed by Specialist's to operate in a way based on research and development .
Never drove na S2K but i have tuned 2ZZ swaped MR2 with the same 200bhp, and i agree for the most part.
That MR2 is pretty special but I'd still take the stock s2k any day.
Was just watching the previous episode little while ago hoping this one was also already up but it wasn't then. Expert timing ^^
You should never attach the seat belts to the floor in a bucket seat cause that means in a crash they pull you downwards instead of backwards. Just saying
How in gods holy name is the guy with the s2000 not running an air filter and just a velocity stack for the intake???
is that a freeking open in take ????? why do you like destroying motors ?
I'm happy with the sound quality! Your dialogue is perfectly audible. The background noises (engine, vibrations, etc) aren't instrusive and add to the immersion of the video. The lavalier style (what you currently have) is probably the optimum layout if you want to minimise background noises as the mic is nearest to the audio source (your voice) you intend on recording. I appreciate wires can be cumbersome. There are wireless lavalier options but are typically very expensive and introduces more things to go wrong. Do some experimenting of different mic setups for yourself. Probably the most common mid-engine cars I see are porsche boxsters.
Thanks for the feedback :)
Super fun video!!! Thanks for the comparison. Would love to see you drive the S2k more!
15:49 don't use fade outs on camera bops
the whole world must look big to little guys like you
why didn't u swap in a 3.5 V6 from a Camry?? isn't the torque/HP better?? I just looked it up it only weighs 170 pounds more than the 2ZZ
I dont think the camry engine can take as much boost as the k20. K20 mr2s are almost always taking around 40lbs from turbo lmao
The K is a stronger engine and weighs lighter- stock block handles boost extremely well
Stock S2000 for me any day..provided it has an hard top..great video.
Is the intake on the s2k sitting right behind the thermo fans?
Michael Bacolod idk why that is... suck in tha hot air for 50 more hp. And foil the intake with gold foil to add another 50
Look at GT3 cars. You see FR, MR, RR, AWD...they can all be great sports car layouts, but the feel of a MR car is something special.
The s2k just put a sudden smile on his face, even though he didn't seem so excited about it at first. That's why I want an s2k.
nice one mate. wasted 2 hours trying to sleep and was pissed off, this chilled me out. may as well watch summit decent vs trying to sleep lol.
Great video mate. I honestly watch all your uploads, love em'!
ı just crious what if we put 3sgt e in that mr s :D
I'd personally put the 2ZZ-GE in a mk3 MR2
MylesHSG sameeee
i am personally keeping 1zz ge and focusing on losing weight and good brakes, wheels and tyres. It outbrakes and outcornes just about everything this side of elise, more power just feels like a way to hide bad driving
Haddedam more power added to your reduced weight would be the ideal set up. The 1zz might be problematic in the long run.
Not really, 1zz is bulletproof.
And I don't do retarded pointless drag races, I do circuit. Its about weight, cornering ability and driver and power number is irrelevant.
2zz is more bulletproof, google it the 1zz has an array of issues wiht oil and pistons and stuff
K20 sounds better for sure!
Hey Danny. You got the thumbs up just as the intro was coming through the headphones.👍👍 Fantastic recommendation by DOHCtor W and great execution by the "One Man Band".👏 I loved the couple of exterior shots, but those are tough to pull off by yourself. You have to fly by (and not fuck it up), race out of the frame, then go back and hope some crackhead hasn't come by and stolen your "free camera". Or even worse, the French Polis watching the vid when you get back.😂 At any rate, you gave us some great clips. Awesome review. If the S2000 felt just a bit faster on the straights, it's probably because those tires are so RAPID.😲😶 (Please don't ban me for the corny jokes). Honestly, I've been looking at S2000s for several months. I'm in no position to buy at the moment, and this video certainly didn't make the urge go away. I think they are great cars and I may own one some day. BTW, not in the same price range, but the Boxster and Cayman are mid-engine. Between these two, it looks like you were torn on making a decision. For a stocker, the S2K is tough to beat, but the K20 MRS is a special little beast that must be respected! I appreciate your honesty in these vlogs, mate. You don't sugarcoat it... just tell it like it is.👌 Cheers, bro!
Thanks man. Gotta be honest! New video is just uploading now so I'm catching up on the comments.. ✌️
That MR2 is amazing dude, nice video. Btw, have you put vinyl on your headlights? If so, could you tell were did you buy it? Ty
Same performance with the honda engine in the mr2, may as well just pick out the car that is better looking, S2K it is.
S2k all day
Really good video. The problem with all these wonderful cars, in standard trim, is that they are loss leaders for the manufacturers. They struggled to sell that many of either. The MX5 had the affordable market licked for two decades and the Z4 and Boxster cornered the market for the mid-performance sports cars. The MR2 could have handled 200 bhp easily rather than 138 but it would have sold very few. All credit to the guy who modified it. Even in standard form they were great (apart for shopping) Two magic cars, with the Honda S2000 now appreciating.
Love the video of the K20 MRS on the Nürburgring. I was excited to see that it was the same car
The mr2 is 2200...the s2000 is 2800. That’s a huge difference in weight. If hp are exactly the same the mr2 is gonna smoke the s2000. On top of that you have crappy tires on the s2000, so the video is t exactly a great comparison. Great information and edit but the test subjects are a bit bias.
HP was not the same, the S2000 has around 240bhp, the MR2 has around 200bhp. The power to weight ratios are very similar. Agreed about the tyres, they were interesting to say the least. Still very closely matched on the road though. I think on a track the MR2 would walk away, mostly because of its better tyres and lower weight.
Really like the sound of the MR2 from inside the cabin.
Another top vid dan. I've recently bought a dc5 where in Yorkshire could I get to take my engine out an paint my bay as it lets the car down.
Great video, Toyota Previa was also mid engined, so not always sports cars ;)
Does the S2k have a filter on that intake?
Love it awesome video :-D Proud to say I used to own a 1997 Mk 2 Toyota MR2! :)
Mrs swaps are crazy, put a v6 or a 3sgte, wing, brakes, suspension, bar, widebody and new wheels and you can get a real beast!
probably not. the s2k does have a double wishbone suspension up front as opposed to the mr2's McPherson strut system. The sk2 also has a very good weight distribution...
I don’t know CRAP about microphones but my ignorant suggestion would be to get a helmet with Bluetooth??
Logically I would expect the helmet to block out all the road/engine noise pretty well and if the mic is inside the helmet I’d have to imagine it would pick up your voice pretty well.
Just an idea
What about a MK2 MR2 turbo K20?! Building one very soon with a friend of yours, should follow the build aswell as maybe in the future do a nice little review or drive of the car, your more than welcome :)
Cool comparison. It's a hard one to choose one car built to be as good as another stock car but cost more. But then again don't we build them to be original. Cool josh got an s2000 though. Sadly one car I can never own being 6 foot 7. Took a ride in one once my legs don't go under dash so knees were almost as high as the top of window. Funnier than hell though. Great video.
Lots of mid engine sports cars. Almost to the point of being overdone. There's: Elise, Exige, MR-2 Spyder, 718, R8, C8, Lamborghini, Ferrari, and McLaren. And looky here, I almost forget the Alfa 4c... These cars pretty much span the entire price range.
Could you k swap my yaris ?
rasta moose Why do you drive a yaris?
rasta moose I assume you can since it's been swapped in plenty of cars
K20/24 swap it. K20 up top k24 on the bottom.
In regard to the Sony mic.. adding a voice over track would be awesome! It still sounds great though.
Having driven both cars Would you say an s2000 is more fun / raw than a dc2 type r or vice versa 🤔?
Since i dont really like the mrs looks id go s2000. But if it would be a sw20 MR2 it would be a hard choice. Or a aw11...i just love boxy 80's cars with pop ups and huge taillights.
Turbocharged sw20 over an s2000 all day long for me unfortunately kids dictate i need more seats.
woody555kl just get 2 cars. A cheap daily and an sw20.
What's the difference between the JDM and UK spec S2000 engines?
I have an imported JDM AP1, had no idea the UK engine was different until watching this...
Great review Danny, S2000 for me though. Being an old man of 52 it's probably a comfort thing.
What roll bar is in the Toyota?
Seems he is not using the high rev range which the s2k engine really shines
Mid engined in the UK? VX220 / VXR220, Porsche Boxster / Cayman?
I think I've just had my head in the sand...
MGF Trophy
Love the best motoring style intro!! 👍👍😂
Nice that you noticed :)
i would prefer a 2ZZ-GE stroked out with a 1ZZ crank....
i am planning to do the full rsx type s swap into my 01 mr2 spyder . i mean it too all of it hubs and all. i think it will be a major improvement .
Love the colour of the s2000 suits it perfectly, what has josh got planned for it ?
How did u put the ep3 recaro in there?
Hi Dan, need your advice on what clutch cable that you use for your mrs zzw30 with Hybrid racing shifter with k20 integra dc5 6 speed gearbox.
I'm currently using hybrid racing v3 shifter with K-tuned race shifter cable but the shifting requires quite a bit of efford shift gear, just wondering how to reduce force required to shift gear. Thanks a lot
@DannyDC2 what is the difference between those Advan tyres and Federal 595 rsr? I'm running now on federal's but I'm really thinking of changing them for ad08r model. As I remember You were driving on 595rsr too? Thanks!
I could moan and criticise about your not taking into account the inability to fully adjust suspension geometry settings as standard on the MR2, comparable weight distribution etc. but the video was very enjoyable overall! You missed out the Boxster's direct competitor the Boxster as a mid-engine sports car, that incidentally isn't as engaging to drive from my experience.
Wonder if the Takata seat belts are any better than the air bags?
ive always watched a few of ur ring vids but just subbed and started watching all that i missed.
rofl at 'Yorkshire version' :')
MRS, it just looks right. I think if you dug into it a bit and went through it sorting issues and dialing it in it looks like it could be a weapon.
Is the mr2 not rwd?
the Amuse / J's racing s2000 is the one of 2 models of car to compete in the touge in japan against the Turbo class's Nsx-R was the other, i think s2000 handles way better coming from an Ex owner of one an also a sw20 with k24
There is a learning curve with mid-engine cars. To get around the corner better you need to put your foot ON the gas for balance and stability. Too much though and it spins out.