Tiny Tina's Wonderlands - Why Nobody Cared.
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- Tiny Tina's Wonderlands - Why Nobody Cared. Wonderlands was release date was in march of 2022. Today in 2024, we go back and Take a look at why nobody cared In a a new never before seen review/retrospect. Thank you all so much for watching today's video! Subscribe for more Borderlands content because why not.
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I personally loved this game. You get to BLOW UP THE FUCKING OCEAN for Mr Torque.
I respect that, I liked the first play through, seeing him blow up the ocean was amazing. After you beat the game though, it falls apart really fast
@@0fficalHellfireBlowing up the ocean is one of my favorite scenes in this entire series. Wish the rest of the game was that good. (I say this as someone who also likes this game, but didn’t bother finishing it)
@@0fficalHellfireno new game plus was a deal breaker for me
Literally the best part of the game... I like Wonderlands quite a bit, but I would have liked it even more if the whole thing was up to that level.
Damn. You must be retarded.
"Fails to do anything a borderlands fan actually cares about" boutta leave that review on 3 and tales 2 and the movie probably
It’s too damn true isn’t it 😭
ok that's actually pretty funny lol
And maybe BL4😢
I hope they delay it and learn a lesson from these debacles.
Aaaaaargh !
Kevin Hart was the nail in the coffin; 5 foot 4 helium sucking Roland ?
I'll save popcorn for the movie reviews 💀
3 was fine gameplay at least is solid
Dude when butt stallion died I was so shocked. It was actually a cool story moment
Agreeeed, it’s the best cutscene in the game with the most emotion and it’s retconned chapters later 😭 why gearbox why.
butt stallion was special... which for gearbox means dead meat. only the trash will survive. I'm still shook over maya man, and krieg, he and she deserve way better, and whats with another kid entering BL? we have tiny tina, a lot of tiny tina in fact, and they throw another kid in? bro, i'm done lol
It was a kids imagination and of course Tina was gonna bring her back in her own story
Heck she did the same thing to Roland who was about to die to jack but change it to when bloodwing save him
@@donovan_salgado Yeah, it felt lore consistent to me. I enjoyed my playthrough, even if after beating it I promptly reinstalled Borderlands 2; back when the company felt like it had something to prove
i didnt find it shocking at all. i knew in the exact same moment when she "died" she will come back to live. i saw the plot twist coming in an instant
I feel that this game was actually pretty solid for what it is. Clearly this was some kind of experimental project where they saw people aching for some TTADK themed stuff and they wanted to try their hand at making a whole game based around the concept, and I feel like they did pretty well for someone experiencing the game for the first time. That being said, it is unfortunate that the game never really got much support afterwards and the effort they put into the post game was minimal. I am hoping that they have listened to the community and plan on reworking some cons and adding quality of life changes in the sequel, making it a game that actually holds up to what people are expecting just like the transition from BL1 to BL2.
I'm going to assume that being developed in the pandemic hurt it, but I'm also sure a lot of the team was focused on BL4, so WL got less love. I enjoyed the game, but post launch was awful. Hopefully WL2 and BL4 give life back into the franchise
@@Wynorrific Absolutely. On top of that, I feel like we are in a time where the gaming industry is running into a "testing" period where they are trying new things just to see if they work, as games are becoming very difficult and expensive to make these days. High hopes for the next entries!
You seem to be entirely unaware that there are a group of borderlands fans old enough to play games as a single player story and then put the game down. We aren't interested in endlessly playing one game for years on end. For us, wonderlands is a fantastic spin off and the lack of any real end game hasn't tainted our experience.
That's what I'm saying. This game feels like Borderlands 1, no over the top inflation in damage for no reason that makes gear obsolete every 3 levels. Purples are actually usable and can be better than legendaries at times. These speedrunner types that need to optimize the hell out of a game to the point of being unfun are ruining the series.
But the story is awful… so what’s your argument ?
@@kingcurmudgeon8685 Like in all borderlands games? Nothing new.
It had the excuse that it was developed in a pandemic (and experimental) but its sequel does not have that excuse so we have every right to expect far better
100% facts
hah that's actually a fair point you make
It is not our burden as consumers to justify their constraints and accept lesser products for it for the same price. They still chose to sell it to us knowing what it was, and that removes any excuse they had. I get your point though.
SEQUEL???? THEY'RE MAKING MORE?!?!??
@@SirTayluh your paying a leaser price for it though 60 dollars is worth much less today than it was 2012
Hellfire woke up and choose violence this day 🤣
It happens
@0fficalHellfire I don't disagree but seriously using the first 2 missions gameplay lmao. But it's true, I beat once and played most of the way through a second time but went back to BL2 and BL3
If gearbox made this more like borderlands 2’s dlc. It would’ve been great
Even Borderlands 3's DLCs were pretty good too. A combination of 2 and 3's would be great, but they'll probably go down the route of Borderlands 3's and Tales 2's story. Meaning god awful writing; written by people who don't even care for the franchise and have an agenda to push.
yeah that's true. I liked the tropical island dlc, it was really cool actually but it broke the damn game and after all that time of it being completely fine. it think it wasn't even the dlc really, they capped levels and changed how bosses work. classic oh jesus moment
@@MrRADicalOfficial honestly, the fustercluck dlc was just that, my favorite guy from bl2 besides zero who has the personality of an emoji, two of the coolest cats on pandora kreig and maya a genuinly cute couple, for no reason killed to death and ended by the writing choices. terrible story throughout, terrible ending. just ends with an imagination of something is close enough. that's not what that was supposed to mean. that was really fucked. no room for that in BL anywhere. it was far from close enough. and hey, gay people are cool, we all know that, but you can tell when there is an inserted piece that does not belong, also the agenda of saying ugly people are actually the good looking people, perfect example is the rich scientist chick from tales 2, is she black? indian? wtf? explain? I know hammerlocks black af, idk what this lady is and idk why they chose that accent for her, it's so obscure and unknown it references a people group or race we don't even know about, and may not even exist, which doesn't make anyone racist for raising an eyebrow, like, even if you were curious, good luck finding out anything on the culture of that woman. and the tiny tina thing, I love that character but shes being used in a strange fan service kind of way. like maybe it's made for people who wear fedoras. just saying. again, not us. been holding that in lol
? Bl2 was awesome but the DLCs were well known for not being good except for dragons keep… the only good BL DLC was BL1
@@riioas5543 I guess that one was more in depth but I couldn't stand it lol except I liked Mr Torgue making everything badass as hell all hell. I really liked the tropical one actually with old crabby but it capped the entire game for no reason. They also had that one that looked like it was in Ireland, it was all rainy, moxxy was there, that was pretty cool, you get to see her boobs a lot. Bl3 I can't say the same, it's impossible to get any enjoyment from a game you know is designed to take the piss out of you
So your entire gripe about the game is that it’s exactly what it tells you it is? “We’re NOT VAULT HUNTERS!?” Ok? The entire premise of the game is that you’re playing a fantasy game with Tina. “It’s not repeatable!” Combine classes
“You can’t change classes whenever you want” you’re not meant to, kinda defeats the purpose.
I agree I actually enjoyed the game the melee was my favorite part but the chaos chamber was to hard for me,e I only got to 80
Yeah I'm playing it after getting it on sale and people said it's not worth making a new character. They made it sound like you can switch classes any time, but you can only change the second class? That literally means I have to play as every other class to get the full experience and I'm all for it. So glad I didn't sell the legendary classes I found.
The DLCs are crap and the writing is horrendous.
You can equip two of the 4 abilities from your classes? I just finished my first playthrough, and I was equipping one ability at a time... did I misunderstand what you meant, or did I miss something about the abilities in the game?
@@Silverfirefly1 Nah I hadn’t played in a while and got confused because of Spellshots ability to use Two Spells. I’ll fix it. My bad.
Wonderlands was a great game for a play through. Great story, and great villain with a good gameplay it’s just the lack of end game that ruins it.
Yep for a border lands game replayability and end game are placed highly.
I had a ton of potential. And id put it above bl3. In some places it took some steps forward in others it went backwards.
@@thefearturkey6944 the big problem with the end game was all we got was chaos chamber and they kept pumping it to higher levels. At launch everyone liked it we just needed other things. Hopefully wonderlands 2 and bl4 learn from the mistakes of the last 5 games and do better.
Indeed. I enjoyed Wonderlands for a few 100 hours. But the Chaos Chambers just wasn't fun. Also, just as the Pre-sequel, there was no real staying power. Once you've made the characters and builds you were done fast. Also the loot felt limited in scope and you were just re-farming the same thing at higher rarity... same reason I didn't like OP in BL2. Felt so pointless. The DLC's were also a waste of time. The main campaign and side quests were fun though.
Yeah Chaos Chambers was basically Nephalem Rifts from D3 all over again.
I got to Chaos 100 the hard way with a 1HP build and it felt it wasn't worth it.
Lmfao the lack of Every borderlands end is the exact same dude Stop D riding its a story game not an MMO lmfao
Currently playing this game with my buddy, we're having a good time, I'm a spells only graveshot and my buddy is a trigger happy stabbomancer. I understand that its a DnD parody, so alot of it is just Gearboxes version of DnD adapted into a borderlands game, and its just enjoyable imo.
It's a great game on your first or second playthrough. A lot of people including Hellfire here said he enjoyed his first playthrough. Which from memory is about 40 or so hours. Especially if you take your time looking around the maps for the collectables. I think that's a great experience tbh. Many great full priced games out there that are one and done story games.
It’s good for 1 play through and that’s It
@@Prince_Ruriklike the majority of games.
I actually really loved wonderlands at launch. The story was enjoyable, the game play was on par with borderlands 3, and I thought the Dragon Lord was pretty entertaining. That said, the endgame is what lost me entirely. Although I didn’t mind chaos chambers (before they added 100 of them), the game needed more raid bosses and story-driven content, which the dlcs didn’t deliver. I remember thinking that if this game had great dlcs, it could be up there as one of the best in the franchise. Unfortunately, that never came to fruition.
Sameeee, it would’ve stuck to 20 chaos chambers and they had some good DLC’s. This would be a really solid borderlands game
On par with borderlands 3 is not praise, it is an abhorrent insult
Agreed though, I enjoyed it slightly more then 3 (but that’s likely because I already somewhat knew what to expect)
@@marvintehrobot5467 Thissss... idk why ppl act like borderlands 3 was good. In comparison to 1 and 2, and hell, even the per-sequil, it was a MASSIVE downgrade. I don't care about visual fidelity, I don't care about a huge amount of skill variety, I just want a solid looter shooter that takes after borderlands 2's story, boss variety, DLC, and loot system. They had a PERFECT FORMULA and decided to change things nobody asked them to change. Like they made every fetch quest and waypoint 9999 miles away from where you spawn, The map is terrible and has 0 indication of height, the actual waypoint markers dont show up in game, so a lot of the time you're forced to just wander around until you find the right thing to interact with. God i hate that game.
Nah, borderlands is done, at least for me. They killed it with 3.
@@marvintehrobot5467 how is comparing the gameplay to bl3 an insult? I personally think borderlands 3 is the most fun in the entire series. loot system is kinda wonky since its legendries galore but its still a very fun game. Say what you want about Borderlands 3 on literally anything else but its a very fun game. Even the guy above me who hates the game doesn't even complain about the gameplay that much lmaoo he just cries about quests, the map and waypoint markers
i like how butt stalion isn't even in the mainline games canon it's something jack made up to spite you
Butt Stallion was in Tales From The Borderlands too though, and that one is canon tbf - whether or not it was ever alive at any point or just manufactured or something is in the air
Just realized actually.
If jack bought butt stallion in 2 why is butt stallion mentioned in wonderlands at all?
Unless the game takes place between jack buying it and jack killing Roland.
@@Voicegoblin You steal/"Rescue" Butt Stallion from one of Jack's bases in Borderlands 2 DLC as a side mission for Tiny Tina. Saving Butt Stallion is also one of the main mission objectives in the TTADK DLC. Wonderlands then takes place between Borderlands 2 and 3.
My only complaint was not having new game plus. Loved the game.
I haven't played this game for about 6 month or more and when I decided to replay it, it started to lag spike for some reason. Yee great game which can even work. Playing bl2 and bl3 no problem with fps. Bl3 , wonderlands , new tales and that borderlands movie writing already have me disappointed about bl4. If that game sucks rip this franchise. Also wonderlands scammed fans with dlc season pass.
I love this game more than Borderlands 3 , it give me Heroes might and magic 3 vibe
3 went all woke an gay. Still had fun with it but 2 is my fav for sure
@@RealG.Washingtonthe va for loralei and paladin mike needs to be let go, exactly 3 people like it he her whatever the fuck that fag is.
@@RealG.Washington All but the first one was gay. I don't see the issue.
I enjoyed Wonderlands for the short campaign, it had more laughs for me than Borderlands 3. It was way too short though, and its replayability is low. They should have released more content for it, but let it die to work on B4.
So sad :( it could’ve been wayyyy better
I really really enjoyed Wonderlands on the first 1-2 playthroughs. Meaning start a new hero. And for you to say that you enjoyed it on your first playthrough makes it weird that you don't recommend anyone playing it. There are many games out there that are 1-2 playthrough games that are great. The side quests in Wonderlands were among the best side quests out of the whole Borderlands series imo.
Yeah there's no endgame. And that's fine. The combat, especially the melee combat is super fluid and fun.
To be honest a 1-2 play through is good enough for me I never even completed pre sequel I conpleted bl2 never finished bl3 either xD
The other's have no replayability either. Exact same story exact same things. Just becuse they put a shiny turd in front of you to geind for dosent mean its end game . This is not an MMO
@@Nemissis4265the other Borderlands games have decent raid bosses, engaging dlcs such as secret armory and claptastic voyage, and a plethora of great mobbing areas like headstone mine or opportunity.
Just because you personally don't like the Borderlands endgame content does not mean the games aren't replayable, the fact that Borderlands 2 still has more players than wonderlands is evidence enough that it is quite replayable.
The writing in this game was the most sjw shit I have ever seen in a video probably ever. Just look at the head writer lmao she literally hates men
@@breakfaith3031BL2 appeals to people that don't mind doing exactly what you need to do to "win". And for BL2 that is using 2, maybe 3 guns and grinding for optimal gear that compliments those guns. That's lame as hell. Just because autistic people hyper focus on it, doesn't mean it's fun.
If you’re not real familiar with the whole franchise and you just jump on this game it’s fun to me. I’m kinda hooked
I remember my bud enjoying a single playthrough of this and when I saw what it offered, it didn't interest me. I haven't had a Borderlands itch and when I revisit say BL3 or BL2: it just smacks me how much the franchise has missed just by utter competence and feel bad for any dev who works on these due to someone like Randy or higher guys rejecting the most basic ideas.
dude, it's the fuckin hyperion story all over again, but theres no vault hunters willing to go kill jack-ass. too scary to leave your home and fix this shit I guess
or maybe we need another handsome jack working at gearbox to really stir the pot in the right direction, and get real with bl4, ai making a billion guns isn't impressive, it seems like it's a system for a billion guns, soulless, the guns in bl2 had soul, I like em, bl3, I don't like em. it's too complicated and none of it's interesting.
like the gun system feels completely random, which it is, but the point is for like the stars to align, but there's too many stars, and too many things on screen
I haven't had a borderlands itch in years.. Last time i had it i was playing 3 and i didn't like the game that much
I bought it and played it. I actually found enjoyable up to chaos 10. If drop rates were set at an across the board rating instead of depending on dice and kept raids and chaos chambers separate I would’ve given it more time.
the game feels like a dlc
@@PablitaOrtega77well, it is essentially a sequel to a DLC, so you're not far off (yeah, it's canonically a sequel to the Assault on Dragon Keep DLC)
Idk how they think they could get me to care about a throwaway joke from Handsome Jack's voice actor. How up your own ass as a writer do you have to be where "butt stalion" is "so epic funny XD XD" that it deserved to go this far. It's the epitome of the toxic cringe that Gearbox fosters.
I can understand that having a Fatemaker who doesn't "make Fate" is weird, but by the same logic our characters weren't really Vault Hunters in the older games either. We always just followed the ones who got there first. Steele opened the vault in BL1, Jack did in BL2, Zarpedon did in TPS, and Vallory did it in TFTBL, tho this can be debated since the vault needed to be reopened. So the first time we play as a so called Vault Hunter - who both opened a vault and fought the monster inside it - was either Rhys and Fiona, or - ironically - in BL3 with the Promethea vault.
But come on, it's a tabletop game withing a game franchise. Why would their title be Vault Hunter in a fantasy setting of a role playing game ? :D
Also, Tina IS expanded upon, but Wonderlands chronologically takes place either before the Commander Lilith DLC where the B Team is formed, or between that and BL3 where she is grown. This is TINY Tina, with her grief still lingering, trying to cope. I thought this was pretty obvious.
I personally love this game because i play this with my older brother and im making good memories and the ocean is CRAZY and some of the side quests are amazing and feel like main story quests the plant one after you blow up the ocean and teh soul system is amazing the spells and skills are cool and the intro animation is amazing with the hate on the newbie and the gun system is kinda cool like having a billion different weapons unique on there on way and the legendary items are actually nice
Still haven't finished Wonderlands lol;
And I've been going back and playing the other games lately
You made the right call
the day they upped the CC levels to 100 was the day I stopped playing
I don’t blame you at all, I saw the writing on the walls when it went from 20 to 40 haha
I stopped after the 2nd "PLC" confirmed we were sold garbage, the chaos chmabers were the only thing to do, and i hated them. Thats like making borderlands 2's gameplay ONLY digistruct peak, except digistruct peak is somehow better
So many millions of dollars wasted on Wonderlands + the movie..they could have just put out those extra Borderlands TPS DLC’s and actually profited. Borderlands 4 HAS to be BL2 level great at this point or Borderlands will be the next Halo where people will only play the old ones and reminisce on them in the future.
Tina is great in small doses, but her brand of comedy gets annoying when it's constant.
Plus, it's so fucking boring. Half of my playtime was spent running back and forth because of the lack convenient Fast Travels; or waiting for Tina and Co to advance the game via a D&D command "bEcAUsE itS a RoLEplaYinG gAmE, gET IT??" Having that joke being repeated at least 15 times before you even reached the main kingdom was obnoxious. Not to mention the repetitive and mandatory random encounters that just drag you away from the game to artificially inflate in-game time.
I've never been a fantasy genre fan myself, but this game permanently killed my hope for ever getting involved with the genre ever.
The guns just either being crossbows "because fantasy" or just the regular guns was weird. Like... Pick one and go with it.
If it wasn't for Wanda Sykes jumping in every now and again, I'd be giving this 1/10 at the most.
I like TTW. Even after all the negative feedback from the community. I enjoyed it and that’s all that matters to me. Could they improve the game more and make better DLC? Yes.
This game had so much potential! Unfortunately, they ruined that opportunity. Sad really….
It is what it is, still. I enjoyed playing it with my gf. Hopefully, BL4 they make it way better! If not, I’ll no longer purchase any more games from gearbox, until they change.
I personally LOVED tiny tinas dragon keep DLC which was a DND spin on the game.. and thats what i expexted going into this game.. bc that DLC was loads of fun! But what i ended up getting was a literal board game with loads of repeat instance fights.. yes the story beats had unique settinf but the "oveeworld" while charming lost me with the bland same-y set drop for multiple fights per area. It made 'exploring' the gameboard intolerable.
Speak for yourself. This game was so much better then Borderlands 3. Like what even was that?
I agree that it’s better than bl3….bit that doesn’t say a whole lot if we’re honest here
Chaos Chamber "Enjoyers" when they are given something enjoyable to do. It disgusts them greatly.
Gott always lookout for the wonderlands wilsons. They’re crazy 🤣
Your first reason, not being a vault hunter, is the most absolutely idiotic thing i every heard. The name of the game ISNT borderlands. You are not playing a fooking vault hunter. You are playing a game inside the game. Dungeon and Badasses.
The problem of the game was the crap end game and the "DLCs" they released after with an expensive price for what they brought. THATS the problem of the game. Nothing more.
btw, most of borderlands dlcs are also 30 min long or even less.
Personally I enjoyed Wonderlands
Was the DLC shite ? Yes !
Would I play the main game again? Yes !
Is it worth new players playing? Yes
the overworld being a pokemon knockoff was spot on
See I really don't understand that point. What the hell makes Pokémon related??
@@Thealseie Literally, it was DND inspired. Maybe the gameboy style of pokemon with the top view camera.
@@wearevenom82i think it's the random grass encounters? But those are basically optional. And final fantasy did it first.
Since Borderlands 3, I just find anything Gearbox does kinda forced, obsolete and old. It feels like they don't evolve with their times and are constantly behind. It saddens me because when I was younger, I remember being hyped and enjoying the crap out of the first Borderlands. It was new, cool, hip, and the 2nd game was just that but even better.
Then it just went downhill from there... Older Borderlands title were better but aged poorly, and newer Borderlands titles just feel even older somehow.
I loved this game I felt like it was better than the last titles we got especially writing wise, however I completely agree this game has basically no rewarding endgame loop it’s sad. Borderlands 2 was pretty much perfect I don’t know why they had to reinvent the damn wheel there man 🤦♂️ overall gameplay I felt was really fun and you do have quite a bit of stuff to do and different builds together but endgame and replay value ironically is really where it turns into a rotten egg for me. Great idea turned cash grab by big corpo, goddamn Hyperion at it again man.
Tried to like this game as something new besides Borderlands, but its only good once and its replay value does not exist. While having some fun elements and do enjoy melee weapons, its far from enough to save it for a sequel. With as much as I want Borderlands 4, I fear it can be much worse than BL3 with elements of both Wonderlands and New Tales to hinder everything. To make it even worse, is if we ever see SweetBaby Inc. have their hands in the game, then you can expect it to die about as fast as Suicide Squad.
The fact that Wonderlands's End game content is so damn dull, like there is no replay factor here after the first playthrough, the story itself is just generic and very much yawn inducing from what I have seen of the game. The lack of actual decent raid bosses or lack of any quality raid boss in this game and let's not forget this game was abandoned after a mere [checks notes] wait what 3 months after launch?
Sweet jesus Gearbox, even Pre-Sequel didn't get abandoned 3 months after launch dear god that stuck around for at least 8-9 months of a life cycle and was solely redeemed by the Claptastic Voyage DLC which added some replay factor into it, this is a god damn slap in the face to fans of the franchise, fans of looter shooters in general and by far even worse then current Destiny 2, yeah I went there Destiny 2 has more content then this game for crying out loud. Even if you get gifted this game on steam, REFUND IT, it's just gonna sit in your library forever, at least get the damn money back for it.
Edit: There's only one good moment in this game and it's at the end of the video, yeah that's right that joke we got in BL2 Tina DLC is the only GOOD thing in this game
Haha I bet you left this this before watching the whole video but I said in in it that it was a “slap in the face to the fans” as well. That’s exactly what this game feels like, and I couldn’t agree more with you Rose.
Edit- I just saw your edit lmaooo, and yes I completely agree. Torgue blowing up the ocean is the highlight
💯 shit shows makes money... look as all the shit youtubers on youtube. 2% desreve to posted. Honestly this youtuber is not in that % .. being honest. I apologize for haveing to break that to you. 😂
Game is too ghey.
Personally I think the biggest problem was making it for teens. That and adding modern comments, like vending machine congratulating you for surviving capitalism. It was built up like it was a full game in the style of dragons keep. Then get lectured by a teenage Tina about name calling when as an adult she does it in B3. But demonic possession, that’s fine. I preordered chaotic edition, but after this (and plc bullshine), as well as making tales 2 cannon. B4 though I will give the movie a chance unless it’s rated teen then I’ll pass.
It failed because of the structure of the game. The BIG issues for me were
- No NG+, really. So just as you leveled to max so now can't use build
- No story DLC. Perfect setting for big story DLC but no, chaos chambers
- F^&k chaos chambers, they were just boring as F.
I enjoyed my one and only play through the story though :)
The gameplay itself was fine, its a dnd spoof (which i love) so the name change to fatemaker didn't bother me at all... what pissed me off the most about it was the lack of TRUE expansions... what they pawned off as expansions should have been free updates not paid content... and after the backlash after the 1st "nothing expansion" what did they do? The exact same thing over and over, way to listen to the fanbase gearbox....
i gave the game like 3 whole playthroughs, i think coming back and running through the story every so often is pretty much the best this game has going for it, which is admittedly how i like playing Borderlands mostly anyways. not having extra story content DLCs to either get even wackier with the setting or flesh out some of the interesting characters the game introduces was a huge mistake and of course the chaos chambers are kinda shit. although i will give the caveat that i'd actually like to see chaos chambers or something similar return to borderlands or maybe an eventual wonderlands sequel, but it absolutely CAN NOT be the only offering for endgame activities and loot needs to be target farmable more efficiently. i just think the randomized rogue-lite style dungeon runs is a good addition to the franchise it's just the execution was... messy.
L game
Fun for a playthrough but then there's literally nothing left to do other than the boring same old chaos chambers and dlcs that have a half hour of playtime at the most (btw I never even bought the dlcs just like you)
Yepppp, literally not worth the money at all. I agree
Ole Tiny Tina giving us the coined term Blunderlands, thank you Tina
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Great vid breaking down how disappointing this game was. I’ve just gone back and played bl2 and it blows wonderlands out the water
Appreciate that forbid :)
Nah, i have to criticise WL but this vid comes off as just hate instead of constructive criticism... understandably so since Gearbox continues to sht on our face so i guess its justifyable...
I can be very harsh with my words and creativity. But don’t mistake my passion to constructively criticize as hate
Did 1 playthrough in coop n me n my friend cant even do a second playthrough its so boring
Yeah, I don’t blame ya. I’ve yet to get through a second play through either
I don't get the hate. I loved this game.
After Borderlands 3 left me feeling so disappointed I had no care in the world to play another Borderlands game or even a Gearbox game especially since I preordered it back when I was streamlining preorders like a junky my last being Cyberpunk. Until I was so excited to see the anti woke Stellar Blade that I put my money up because I wanted to get more games like it and less games that are touched by Sweet Baby Inc
Respect, borderlands 3 sucks
The biggest problem with it was just lack of replayability the no new game plus ruined it for me thats always been part of borderlands identity thats sold the series for me its always cool replaying through a story with all the cool gear you found by the end of the game the story was leagues better then bl3 so its actually fun to play through whats the point of having good guns if theres nothing to do cause chaos chamber is boring asfk to me ive never been a fan of the round based missions in borderlands personally.
Or more so i would like to say whats the point of having good guns if there no variety of things to do with them chaos Chambers just basically the same thing over and over
One of the things that the mainline also does for replayability is the different characters all having their own unique builds (and multiple of them at that).
This game tries hard to be creative with you being able to grab any 2 classes but in the end it really doesn't make them feel all that different from each other. The classes are only really good for one thing so it doesn't leave much room for experimentation
Lmfao theres no replayablity in any of the borderlands lmfao you do the EXACT SAME THING EVERH TIME. Lmfao its a story game not an MMO
My biggest regret is saying this game was gonna be the best in the series during the story... then the damn chaos chambers had to go and slap me in the face with a wet and sharp fish
The chaos chamber was great at launch and everyone liked it when we thought it wasn’t the only end game we were going to get. Then it was rough
I mean did you actually believe that story was it would be the best in the franchise? Or were you saying that because female empowerment or whatever? Because while tiny Tina is a fantastic character she's only good in small doses which is why her DLC in borderlands 2 was so amazing and absolutely beloved by everybody. Saying that this game was going to be the best is a stretch and even you couldn't even convince yourself that it was good lol
@@billdover3165 idk what happened to you, but I'm sorry it happened. I meant gameplay, it had easily the best potential in the series. Keep being an incel tho, it suits you
Chaos chamber is fine but there shouldve been proper endgame and ng plus
New game plus isn’t needed, they should have added some story dlcs and not as many chaos chambers but that’s about it
Wonderlands is like fable 3.
visually nicer but with less content, and characters that feel weaker/nerfed compared to the OG.
I haven’t played the fable games enough to know but I’ve also heard this comparison.
@@0fficalHellfire lets just say if fable 4 and borderlands 4 fail im gonna have my Joker Moment.
The weapons were boring as af too...
I got it when it was £20 for everything after i completed BL3. I played with no sound because the story was absolutely bs, i did not care one bit. The only thing I'll say is it still feels like BL in movement and shooting- which cant be beat imo. I fully agree with you no one should waste their time with the game. I finished it and didnt bother with endgame grind or dlc. I love DND and BL, but this did not work due to writing
Seriously, they need a Borderlands 4 with Tina as a playable vault hunter. I could imagine some of her skill tree including things like "All Tina's grenades have MIRV (5, 8, 10, 12, 16, depending on how many points are spent) ability. If your Grenade mod already has MIRV ability, each of the child grenades also has the MIRV ability granted by the grenade mod." and "All your grenades have the Homing ability, If your grenade mod also has homing ability, homing speed is doubled" and "Tina can use grenades during Fight for your Life" and "If Tina is out of grenades, using the grenade ability consumes one non-equipped grenade mod to fill her grenade capacity"
The "All your grenades have...(whatever)" skills would be in different trees at tier 3. These kind of skills would give us the Tiny Tina we all want to see.
Forget Tina I'd rather be Markus of Markus Munitions
@@DrakeKnight99Nah, Markus doesn't seem to be the vault hunter type. He seems to prefer to hang around his shop selling guns.
The chaos chamber ruined this game for me. Worst ending game in the game industry ever.
Fr, it’s awful end game content. So lazy and boring
Base game was fine with those 4 small "side quest" in overworld like small DLC that were 2/3 hours long each. If game had 4 big DLCs like BL3 it would be awesome
This is one of the first borderland games I actually beat. I've tried to get into the other games before but couldn't. Tiny Tina tho I actually enjoyed mostly because of the fantasy setting. It's not perfect, suffers from the annoying atrocious dialogue just like in the other games, and gets pretty repetitive towards the end. It's an alright game id recommend buying a used $10 copy like I did if you wanna try it out lol
I’ll say, for a 10 dollar play through. Not a bad deal at all lol. But as somebody who paid 70. I wasn’t as happy having beaten every borderlands game up til this point. Finishing this one felt like the game just straight ended and there was no need to play after. I highly recommend you give bl2 another try if you’re at all curious to delve into an older one again :)
@@0fficalHellfire yeah I can see why it would be underwhelming if you payed 70 bucks for it. I'm planning to give BL2 my like 3rd try soon since I enjoyed the gameplay a lot from wonderlands
I've always hated the overabundance of legendry's in the latest games of the series. They don't feel as powerful, and you mix in the anointed stuff and you're just farming for a roll on a specific gun. I miss when getting a legendary actually meant something, not instant gratification where more then half are useless.
I liked the game, but the after launch support made it not worth playing. I go back from time to time and run some chambers, but not like I play bl2 or even how I played 3
Another quality video dropped 😅
Can’t stop, won’t stop 🫡
@@0fficalHellfire I never clicked something so fast bro
what gets me is they could have come up with intresting dlc with the premise but decided on just makeing cash grab raid bosses insted.
I really enjoyed the game and the mechanics. But the endgame was not deep enough.
The chaos chambers felt more like a chore then a grind
Randy pitchford needs to be removed from gearbox.
As a genuinely enthusiastic Borderlands player I can honestly state the majority of us disliked the utter failure of B3. TTW is nothing more than suitable spinoff of B3. I haven't played it, and have ZERO interest in doing so. Thanks for your informative video, hellfire.
No problem at all, borderlands 3 was like gearbox taking a crap on our face and this game was them rubbing it in 💀
I bought the game and played it with a buddy. (Same one from a pearl from the Tina slots 😂) We both enjoyed a first playthrough and never went back. I hated the chaos chambers, I thought they were pointless and never bought any other dlc for Wonderlands.
However, I'm scared that the amount of money gearbox made from that BS. This is gonna be a thing they keep doing.
Also side note. For 10 years, I wanted the original loot chest for BL2 and I finally got it last year in mint condition. It's not my craziest BL2 thing in my collection. I have one better, that I personally carried on the bus home. However, it feels like it's come full circle. 🤘
Broooo, I wish I had the loot chest. That shit is sick.
@@0fficalHellfire I've got the BL2 and 3 loot chest. No bs. The crazy shit I have. I have a BL2 Standee.
Dam man, you've been going crazy with the vids lately. Good on ya bro
I bought this game for $8 and still feel ripped off.
Yelp it is suppose to be the Gotham Knights game for Batman or Marvel's Avengers, they tried to sell Avengers the game for 2$ and all the skins free and people still refused
That's crazy. I spent 12 and I'm having a blast lol
I have played all the games and DLC's. But I could not get into Wonderlands. The guns are weird, I didn't understand a bunch of the skills and buffs and thought becoming a bobble head and running across a D&D board could have been done in a much cooler fashion.
Completely agree. It’s to linear, boring and all the guns are forgettable at best
Yet it sold extremely well. Andy sandberg and Wanda Sykes and the villain were actually really cool.
Although I never went through it again or treated it like a boardlands game. I went through it once and I was good on it.
I only remember torque, really. I heard the dlcs were absolutely horrendous though. I never went back for em.
Oh yeah the stupid luck system. I’m ready for a legendary banner.
This game is bad
Wonderlands shouldn’t have even came out
I personally liked the game but I finished it once, I saw the end game and deleted it and went back to borderlands 2
I think that’s what the majority of people with a brain did 💀
I feel like Gearbox actually doesn't understand how to evolve Borderlands.
The games looter shooter model literally DEMANDS that they make cutscenes and story skippable, and honestly it would be so much more interesting if they dropped the outdated as fffk "Quest" structure, and opted for more randomized in world events, bosses, enemies and spawns etc.
Basically the franchise should go more towards almost a rogue like design, maintaining a story and progression as normal, but leaning into the rogue like randomized elements that can occur throughout a playthrough, while minimizing "quest chores" of "go here, press X to" etc.
They kind of got stuck in this idea that people love the comedy so much that they should ram it down the audience throats with bloated exposition, dialogue, story etc.
This is not the case. And Borderlands 2, despite SO MANY FLAWS is still WAY MORE replayable than BL3!!!!
Bl3 I dropped after ONE playthrough 😐
Because the game just doesn't even understand what it should be. They tried to just make a bigger, longer and more refined BL2. But what they SHOULD have made, it go CRAZIER with the possible builds (all of which they nerfed and deleted as soon as anyone discovered anything cool or fun).
And then scale the challenges TO the fun loot combinations, which they would push players with a great incentive to get the gear to have even more fun and take on challenges.
Instead they nerfed gear and made really boring raids.
BL2s format of entering the raid boss arena is a WAY better format than having to do a whole "takedown" which basically isn't that interesting or fun to even do.
As the design of the game DOESN'T offer much variation despite being designed to "replay" these segments over and over 🤦🏻♂
Proof that Gearbox doesn't understand what's even great about the series ultimately.
No dialogue skip
It's fun. However, full of bugs and that's crazy knowing it came out a few years ago. I get crashes after crashes.
Butt Stallion should have stayed dead. Maybe then they could move the fuck on. I HATE how heavily the franchise relies on BL2.
Handsome Jack: overrated and not funny.
Butt Stallion: immature and not funny.
Tiny Tina: Loud, annoying, stupid, and not funny.
Like.... They need to do something different, those three things don't make a Borderlands game.
Oh and we all know Lorelai is gonna become their next long running annoying fucking character. Despite the fact that she wasn't funny, nor was Paladin Mike.
naa bro. Your judgement is clouded through your immense hatered of Chaos Chambers. Just move on if you needa grind tbh. Same goes to FarCry 6. Horrible End game but a good game overall that was just rushed. You just dont have to overplay it because it gets boring quick after you finished the main game.
I mean all honestly. it is a good game that is just a mix of Borderlands and a kid playing a Pen and Paper game. 4 me at least, the gameplay felt great. Maybe because I played Mage with two playable spells. The only anoiing thing is the spells dont say what they actually do, you just have to guess it from the name or test it out.
I mean its rare to see a DLC that actually gives a lot of interessting content and is not another way for the devs to make quick easy money.
The only two things where I say bro devs wtf is wrong with you is being able to choose a second class but it litteraly close to does NOTHING... NOTHING. Like deam give me a spell and two Class abilities and not 1 and 1. Makes no sense
And the story starts so good and then it just gets boring. They didn´t do shit with their start of the story. And yeah Butt Stalion is holding Tina back so bad. And they should do more with the Dragon Lord having control of what happens. He does nothing more then once or twice spawning some mosnters. Bro has control of the god deam story and can speak with you directly. Deam his dude has potential.
And the meele weapons are boring af. Dunno what you see in them tbh. Spells are way more interessting and cool to use. Maybe because I can choose 2 spells and have no Class action but deam some spells are creative like the icespikes and the singularity
Anyways, chill bro, dont overplay it. and my comment is weird af but whatever its 2 am
I LOVED Wonderlands It was so good! Didnt play chaos chambers but I did finished the game 3 times!
Of course had to buy it on PC with DLCs and play while listening to BABYMETAL :3
I liked it. Just muted the voices and skipped cutscenes. Gameplay is great, guns are satisfying af and levels are the same style as every other Borderlqnds game. I actually hope they milk this serues, it is my favourite video games ever.
I liked it during my first playthrough. Once you realize the end game is just nonsense you give up.
Also majority of gear is just irrelevant
I don’t blame you, I wish I would’ve got it on discount 😭 and yeah, a lot of the legendary and unique gear isn’t very good or memorable
Also forgot that the dlc was just an absolute joke
Well I love all Borderlands games I know and even Tina Tina's Wonderlands.
To be fair Borderlands 1 and 2 where the jokes great and Handsome Jack.
Borderlands 3 I didn't liked the jokes too often all this "sh*t jokes" (I mean it word by word) where bad but I loved the gameplay and I really love Tyreen and would like to play her (she's not so good like Jack but I still really love her)
And Tiny Tina well I played the game since release and my first play through was not so good. Yeah in my opinion the jokes where better then in Borderlands 3 and I really loved the melee weapons and the Gameplay that feels like Borderlands 3 for me with the fantasy aspect (if all the guns wouldn't be in Tiny Tina) sadly Torgue was censored.
BUT I just started yesterday a second play trough of Tiny Tina and now I really enjoy the game also finally Character Customisation (sadly no Anthro race but okay)
I can tell this video is gonna be filled with bad takes because right out of the gate im met with a narrator who disregards that the game is based off DND with borderland characters, there is no need for Vault Hunters and the character creation fits more of a DND character sheet. Gonna save 10 mins and pass this, if any borderland fan out there seees this and hasn't tried TTW, it's fun doesn't contribute to borderlands story and is very similar to borderlands gameplay.
I was confused by the appearance of this game because we'd already had it, in Borderlands 2 DLC. Tina has already taken us on a DnD adventure, with actual character development and story. Why would we do it again?
Money 💴
Because of the growing popularity of dnd, especially during covid, they probably thought it would make a good cash grab.
That's a weird question to ask seeing how you can ask that about any game sequel. I mean, why play Borderlands 2 when you already have Borderlands?
Tiny Tina's Assault on Dragon Keep is one of the highest rated and best selling DLC in the entire Borderlands history. Along with rising interest in TTRPGs like DnD at the time (as well as Tiny Tina being an absolute fan favorite character), the actual question is why WOULDN'T people do it again?
Like with any sequel, we knew we'd be getting new story, character, and gameplay alongside story, character, and gameplay we're familiar with (alongside probably a few things that we'd have problems with. I mean...that's just how reality works; you take the good with the bad). There was great potential with something that worked really well in the past and the timing of game's release was in the game's favor due to other things happening irl.
I do understand that, AFTER the game was launched, we saw that the shortcomings outweighed the good (honestly, there's a lot of criticism about the game that's valid). Even with that said, we still got some great things from Wonderlands that make the game worth playing at least once (including one of the best villains in the whole Borderlands franchise; one I'd say is a close-second to Handsome Jack himself).
Im just glad the story was at least better than 3 and was decently compelling (until but stalian got revived) i also enjoyed the game play on my first run
Dude missed a lot here. Just calling it 'bad' is an absolute travesty.
Honestly, Wonderlands is an incredible game with the worst dlc possible out of a Borderlands game.
This game is literally DnD meets Borderlands, taking off of the popularity of Assault on Dragon's Keep. Judging off of those aspects alone, the base game is incredible. They did a great job of mashing the styles together.
Re-iterating though, the DLC is a complete scam compared to the rest of the BL series. They're Far too short to actually be worth the money, outside of the replayability of farming the incredibly basic dungeons for more loot.
Having farmed these DLCs multiple times.. the gameplay is good but are not nearly worth the price point.
Still highly recommend the game, but it's to be taken with an open perspective. It IS a good game. It's just not a Borderlands game alone, its a DnD spin-off with some minor flaws (not nearly as big as the story of BL3).
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Imagine if it actually got real post launch support like borderlands 2. Or at least borderlands 1. it would’ve at least been replay-able with some good dlc
I personally stopped playing because of the DLC's honestly. While it was fun with me and my friend and both of us were pretty big Borderlands and D&D nerds it fitted our niche very well. But after we gone and beat the game, and spent hours on the grind getting legendaries for our collection, there wasn't really much left to do. And when the DLC's came out it was just disappointment after disappointment; a whole season pass just for four four singular path dungeons accessed only in this one area early in game. No real new story other than "go into this dungeon and kill this boss because they're being a dick", a new class or two yeah that's something at least.
Then came the loads of nerfs for most of the gear, which to the belief of my friend; nerfing something in a non PvP game just ruins the fun. Like I get it in a developer sense where you don't all of your players only playing as "The Meta" but when you spend hours if not days ruthlessly grinding for that perfect roll of that one piece of gear that would just complete your whole set and turn this game into Elder Scrolls 5: Skyrim, only for a day or two later the devs release an update where in one of the patches they weaken that one item to the point where it's nearly worthless and is just tossed into the safe to never be touched. That's what ruined the game for him, and after countless updates of nerfs he was just done and after a while of just playing solo it got boring for me to so I just quit as well.
I won't deny that me and my friend had loads of fun on the first go, and we had our fun moments here and there, but after we 100%'d/platinum'd the game, things got stale for us and eventually we parted from it.
Got this game on sale which I thought was good just to find the game riddled with bugs and crashes. All the sdus I spent hours getting money for to pay for were just gone one day and my bank went from 510 spaces to 220 spaces zzz I hope BL4 isn’t like this, might have to wait a month after release to see how bad the game is before I buy it.
I haven’t played the boarder lands games. I actually like the game and having fun. The combination of spell options is a bit excessive. Trying to separate good spells from ones are complete garbage. Same with guns. Some guns actual damage from what it says on stats. The performance is some guns are super sweet. While others are vender junk. Also, why can’t I vendor off the accessible patterns that I already learned to one of the 3 vendor machine?
That being said, game has a learning curve and seems to have a good story
hellfire sundaaay
Best borderlands game ever!! WONDERLANDS ROCKS..
You know it's a crap game if Borderlands' biggest fan Joltzdude doesn't even post a single playthrough ever
Such a waste of potential. I could write a small novel about all the way this game failed, but more importantly, especially after Tales 2, it really makes me worried for BL4.
The good news is that we always have 1, 2, and 3, but it'd be a real shame if BL4 is as bad as Wonderlands.
Considering this game was made from home made me actually look past a few problems. But mechanically this game was great!
Melee weapons are changeable. Weapon enchantments are easy, the grind is much easier than other games.
And I really don't understand the beef with the Chamber??
It puts all core elements of borderlands (which is shooting and combat) in one gameplay run, if anything it beats the boring running back and forward just to fight bosses and get loot, when you can just go into the chamber, get shit loads of loot and have non stop combat the whole way through!!
Apart from the obvious DEI adaptions which completely ruined the feel of immersion, mechanically this game did so much right.
Personally the only improvements I'd make:
-longer story
-choice of grenades OR spells (depends on builds)
-loads more class types
-make class points more viable (higher stat changes and more options)
-less gay stuff 😂
I know Tina is officially lesbian for moxxi or whatever, but there's so much lovey parts, sex jokes and references to gay couples. It should be about crazy people, mad titans, killing and blowing shit up.
Borderlands 1 didn't have any of this...
Also, 1 playthrough... perfecto! I hated nothing more than beating the game, finding secrets, doing side quests. Then having to do it ALL again for no reason... replayablity I think not, if I'm going to replay the game, its as a new character, not the one I just finished the game with.
hated the overworld though 😅 would've preferred a gridbased mini map with events rather than a bobble head walking around that can't do anything other than walk and punch hahaha
All in all good game
It was still a decent game.. It was fun, had some good creative content but the end game was completely horrible..