really amaising the inbreeding is good to use in race pigeon from philippines sir hope you will be my mentor her in our country racing pigeon is very hard ti win sir GOD BLESS YOU
Thanks for this video and for the illustration..much easier to understand...4th generation is the key to maintain the original bloodline...keep it up and more power!!!
A+++++ video, sooooo thankful for this video, thank you for sharing that knowledge!! I totally got schooled on reproducing great birds, please continue sharing your knowledge sir with the new comers to the sport who can then be competitive with the old timers. Notes taken! Thanks again.
Great video. Im new and looking to buy a pair or two after the local one loft race is done. Hopefully i can get good pigeons and breed well and eventually win something
Hard in my ignorance here but would you classify what you're showing as in line breeding or some other name? It would seem learning this would be helpful in the show world as well.
I did this in 1970, first result in 4th generation one of the best short distance birds in the Netherlands. BUT.... his brothers and sisters were not good enough. Some years later prof. dr. Alfons Anker teached me that the problem most probably was the inbreeding that was there already before the first generation. So as always things are more complicated. If you start this scheme you should be dammed sure the two pigeons you start with are as unrelated as possible! If not, most probably vitality will suffer too much. Furthermore I don't know of any fancier in Belgium (where competition is very fierce) that does this kind of schematic breeding. Simply because the results are not good enough. If something like that is done, it's for breeding breeders; not for pigeons to compete with.
Great point... It's exactly what this system is for, to breed stock birds and to add new blood into families or create one. They key is to have two families and he forgot the super hen side of the chart.... At the 4th generation you need to breed the nest mates to lock-in the "Black Rhino" blood same on the "Super Hen" side and that's your duplicate stock pairs of your original cross.... Now cross your new Black Rhino x Super Hen pairs and those babies are your racers....2 pure families = hybrid vigor at it's finest....takes a long time, lots of testing and excellent selection for this to work but it works.....
Much more better is to pair the cock to 3 different hens and do the system like you did and to do it with pigeon friend in other loft so you can do that in shorter time and do not wait for so long years. To start the system we do in Europe rise Sommer youngsters so you are one season more in time. But very good explanation sir very good and for beginners very good they don't know about incest of pigeons.
Wow! Very straightforward and informative!! I truly appreciate it 🙏🙏🙏
The best video I've seen in a long time on breeding
Thanks for all the help grate vid from uk
Glad it helped
Thanks for the video. Just getting back into birds
This is very informative! Great breeding system. This works for me very well. I learned from the best Hector! Keep it up 👍
Great video, thank you.
Thank you for sharing!
thank you so so much sir, very informative., keepsafe godbless
Good job Mr. Hector
Thank you Chuck!
Thank You sir
Really appreciate for the video.
really amaising the inbreeding is good to use in race pigeon
from philippines sir hope you will be my mentor her in our country racing pigeon is very hard ti win sir
GOD BLESS YOU
thank you,nice breeding tips,keep on uploading vedios..godbless
Thank you for watching!
Thanks for this video and for the illustration..much easier to understand...4th generation is the key to maintain the original bloodline...keep it up and more power!!!
Absolutely!
I love your videos , so informative
I have a doubt Can female pigeon sit and hatch eggs alone if male is missing?
A+++++ video, sooooo thankful for this video, thank you for sharing that knowledge!! I totally got schooled on reproducing great birds, please continue sharing your knowledge sir with the new comers to the sport who can then be competitive with the old timers. Notes taken! Thanks again.
Great video. Im new and looking to buy a pair or two after the local one loft race is done. Hopefully i can get good pigeons and breed well and eventually win something
Great informative video
Glad it was helpful!
Very informative thank you sir
I'm new to the sport great video and knowledge giving. Your knowledge is very appreciated. Thanks for sharing.
Happy to help! Welcome to the Sport!
@@vfloft5125 I’m a newbie at raising pigeons but how do you race a pigeon?
That pigeon look so beautiful wow 🤩 wish I could have one of the baby 😁
I'm a newbie in this sport and I watch all your video very interesting. The eye sign
Is the most I like after watching it I went tomy loft and I didn't find any birds that I can make it foundation.
Nice work 😊
Very very informative
Hard in my ignorance here but would you classify what you're showing as in line breeding or some other name? It would seem learning this would be helpful in the show world as well.
Thanks for the infos
I did this in 1970, first result in 4th generation one of the best short distance birds in the Netherlands. BUT.... his brothers and sisters were not good enough. Some years later prof. dr. Alfons Anker teached me that the problem most probably was the inbreeding that was there already before the first generation. So as always things are more complicated. If you start this scheme you should be dammed sure the two pigeons you start with are as unrelated as possible! If not, most probably vitality will suffer too much.
Furthermore I don't know of any fancier in Belgium (where competition is very fierce) that does this kind of schematic breeding. Simply because the results are not good enough.
If something like that is done, it's for breeding breeders; not for pigeons to compete with.
Great point... It's exactly what this system is for, to breed stock birds and to add new blood into families or create one. They key is to have two families and he forgot the super hen side of the chart.... At the 4th generation you need to breed the nest mates to lock-in the "Black Rhino" blood same on the "Super Hen" side and that's your duplicate stock pairs of your original cross....
Now cross your new Black Rhino x Super Hen pairs and those babies are your racers....2 pure families = hybrid vigor at it's finest....takes a long time, lots of testing and excellent selection for this to work but it works.....
Thank u
Much more better is to pair the cock to 3 different hens and do the system like you did and to do it with pigeon friend in other loft so you can do that in shorter time and do not wait for so long years. To start the system we do in Europe rise Sommer youngsters so you are one season more in time. But very good explanation sir very good and for beginners very good they don't know about incest of pigeons.
Was enjoying your video until you mentioned your next one is on eye sign 🙈
Can I breed rollers with the same concept
yes you can!
Can you tell me how to do a outcross
Is a 4th generation Black Rhino available? I would love to acquire one and make it my foundation. New guy here and planning to join a OLR.
Good
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Do you sell birds?
I'm also new and looking to start racing. What are your bloodlines that you race with? I like middle distance to long flyers. Any suggestions?
thanks for watching! I suggest a mix of both for your loft for best results!
For sale?
Black diamond + maxi =?????