I don't blame you. The very first gun I ever owned, a Christmas gift from my parents, was a Marlin Model 81TS that would repeatedly jam. My father sent it in to be fixed, and their solution to the problem was a violation of the Marlin Safety Code. So he returned it, got his money back, and then he and I looked at other .22's together. Ultimately we liked a Winchester 9422 that is a joy to shoot.
There are lemons at times. I have had several the most were Taurus. That's why I only have 2 a TX22 and 865 revolver. It's a bummer my P17 has been great and Buffalo has had one that's been good. Just the way it goes it sucks though
No,,he's currently pulling his hair out over this pistol.When he made the offer,I asked him more than once,,"are you sure you want to do this?" And every time he replied "yes."Then we shook hands on it.In the end,we both ended up losing. What is life without taking some gambles? I think it would be boring.I lost $125 & he lost $75.Not chump change,,but we both learnd a lesson.
@@garageguy879, I woulda sent it back, saved the headache. Here's my question concerning Keltec. "IF" all pistols and fired and checked "BEFORE" shipping out, how do the duds make it passed QC ?
@@markbrown-rq6is That's an excellent question,I often wonder about that myself.I honestly believe that some people are lazy and just show up at a job to get a paycheck.As far as you & I know,they may have fired 1 round and said "ship it." I really hate to have an attitude like that,but from what I've seen lately,a lot of companies and not just firearm companies seem to be having QC problems.My Kel-Tec didn't work,but a lot of others have worked.I did what I did with it,and have no regrets.I understand your point of view.This is one of the main reasons I do the YT thing,I know not everyone is going to agree with me,and if I overlook something and someone calls me out on it,then that is a lesson learned.If he figures out what's wrong and fixes it to where it's running good,then I'm happy for him.
@@garageguy879 I agree 100 percent. One shot wonders. I just picked one up in OD green. I cleaned and lubed it, and I'm thinking bout disasembling the mags and lube the insides and puttin em back together. If mine gives me trouble, back it goes. I lubed the underside of the slide where it seems to rub (metal against metal). I also read somewhere bout Keltec sending out "NEW OLD STOCK". That would answer a lot of questions. Thanks for getting back with me..
Did the same thing with a Taurus spectrum 380 several years ago. Got what I could out of it then took the girls out to Red Lobster. Did not miss the gun one bit. Lol.
That sucks , it's sounds like a lemon. It happens in everything, got bearings the one time to set up a rear end and they weren't the correct diameter, all the ones were off. Went somewhere else and got the right diameter , same brand
I have an old Charter Arms AR-7 that is as equally unreliable as the P17. CCI Stingers was the only thing that was promising regarding performance and even then it was maybe only 60% of the time. Everything else was a jammomatic like every other round.
I have a Gen.1 and a Gen.2 Sub-2000 both have been back to Florida several times n each time they said something was out of spec .. like wth ?? no more KT's for me MB .
I have the exact same P17. Put about 300 rounds through mine with various ammo types, and zero issues. I bought the red dot slide and enjoy that too. In many ways it is not as good as the Taurus and Walther options, but dang it weighs nothing! Even with a kydex holster and a couple extra full mags in a pack, you don't notice the weight - it's crazy light, I had a 2nd gen sub2k and put a bazillion rounds through that and even with my lame attempts to pimp it out had had zero issues. Have a KSG that I love and the only issue I have with that is a version of short shucking, You have to work the action like you mean business. Had a PMR and sold it, because I got a CMR, Zero issues with either of those. Only thing I have had issues with on Kel Tecs is my P32. Every once and a while I have gotten the dreaded .32 ACP rim lock, which pretty much disables the firearm. With the P32, I suspect the rim lock may have very well been my loading technique, So maybe I'm just lucky, but I have not really had issues with Kel Tec firearms personally. I enjoy Kel Tec's innovation, but I understand that they are not for everyone. Love your videos Mark, please keep 'em coming , Sorry your P17 did not work out for you,
I don't blame you. The very first gun I ever owned, a Christmas gift from my parents, was a Marlin Model 81TS that would repeatedly jam. My father sent it in to be fixed, and their solution to the problem was a violation of the Marlin Safety Code. So he returned it, got his money back, and then he and I looked at other .22's together. Ultimately we liked a Winchester 9422 that is a joy to shoot.
I hear that.Thank you for watching and commenting .
Sometimes you just gotta let 'em go.
Traded mine in at the lgs. No regrets.
Mine eats everything you put in it !!!!
There are lemons at times. I have had several the most were Taurus. That's why I only have 2 a TX22 and 865 revolver. It's a bummer my P17 has been great and Buffalo has had one that's been good. Just the way it goes it sucks though
Man I would've give $150 for it. 🤷🤷. I got one and it's a 17 round TACK DRIVER !!!!
I got mine for $179, waiting for that price again to snag it.
Your buddy "knows" how to fix the issue's. He's gonna get a new pistol for $75.
No,,he's currently pulling his hair out over this pistol.When he made the offer,I asked him more than once,,"are you sure you want to do this?" And every time he replied "yes."Then we shook hands on it.In the end,we both ended up losing.
What is life without taking some gambles? I think it would be boring.I lost $125 & he lost $75.Not chump change,,but we both learnd a lesson.
@@garageguy879, I woulda sent it back, saved the headache. Here's my question concerning Keltec. "IF" all pistols and fired and checked "BEFORE" shipping out, how do the duds make it passed QC ?
@@markbrown-rq6is That's an excellent question,I often wonder about that myself.I honestly believe that some people are lazy and just show up at a job to get a paycheck.As far as you & I know,they may have fired 1 round and said "ship it." I really hate to have an attitude like that,but from what I've seen lately,a lot of companies and not just firearm companies seem to be having QC problems.My Kel-Tec didn't work,but a lot of others have worked.I did what I did with it,and have no regrets.I understand your point of view.This is one of the main reasons I do the YT thing,I know not everyone is going to agree with me,and if I overlook something and someone calls me out on it,then that is a lesson learned.If he figures out what's wrong and fixes it to where it's running good,then I'm happy for him.
@@garageguy879 I agree 100 percent. One shot wonders. I just picked one up in OD green. I cleaned and lubed it, and I'm thinking bout disasembling the mags and lube the insides and puttin em back together. If mine gives me trouble, back it goes. I lubed the underside of the slide where it seems to rub (metal against metal). I also read somewhere bout Keltec sending out "NEW OLD STOCK". That would answer a lot of questions.
Thanks for getting back with me..
I enjoy your videos very much. Too bad about the Kel Tec I've never owned a Kel Tec.
Did the same thing with a Taurus spectrum 380 several years ago. Got what I could out of it then took the girls out to Red Lobster. Did not miss the gun one bit. Lol.
I don't miss mine either,,and I ended up at Cracker Barrel,,lol.
@@garageguy879 oh that's good. Lol
That sucks , it's sounds like a lemon. It happens in everything, got bearings the one time to set up a rear end and they weren't the correct diameter, all the ones were off. Went somewhere else and got the right diameter , same brand
I have an old Charter Arms AR-7 that is as equally unreliable as the P17. CCI Stingers was the only thing that was promising regarding performance and even then it was maybe only 60% of the time. Everything else was a jammomatic like every other round.
Was looking at those but they ain’t right for suppressed, with the PSA deals on the Taurus it’s hard to beat $219 and a 3 mag rebate!
You're right about that. But sometimes we take a chance.It works or it doesn't. TX22 is a better pistol.
Mine has a dead air mask that lives on it. Shoots anything I put through it.
I have a Gen.1 and a Gen.2 Sub-2000 both have been back to Florida several times n each time they said something was out of spec .. like wth ?? no more KT's for me MB .
From what I hear,there's a lot of plastic or pot metal parts in those.If looking for carbine,I'd go the way of the Ruger PC9.
@@garageguy879 , agreed ......
I have the exact same P17. Put about 300 rounds through mine with various ammo types, and zero issues. I bought the red dot slide and enjoy that too. In many ways it is not as good as the Taurus and Walther options, but dang it weighs nothing! Even with a kydex holster and a couple extra full mags in a pack, you don't notice the weight - it's crazy light,
I had a 2nd gen sub2k and put a bazillion rounds through that and even with my lame attempts to pimp it out had had zero issues.
Have a KSG that I love and the only issue I have with that is a version of short shucking, You have to work the action like you mean business.
Had a PMR and sold it, because I got a CMR, Zero issues with either of those.
Only thing I have had issues with on Kel Tecs is my P32. Every once and a while I have gotten the dreaded .32 ACP rim lock, which pretty much disables the firearm. With the P32, I suspect the rim lock may have very well been my loading technique,
So maybe I'm just lucky, but I have not really had issues with Kel Tec firearms personally.
I enjoy Kel Tec's innovation, but I understand that they are not for everyone.
Love your videos Mark, please keep 'em coming , Sorry your P17 did not work out for you,
14.7 oz with 17 rounds in this P17, that is crazy light and feels like nothing in my pocket.
To bad it doesn't run for you buddy.
Since hi point is an upgrade to kel tech, what is the point...................
i thought Keltec was ugly, not anymore, those Hi Points look like Alien head guns .... FUGLY
Lemons happen move on and keep up the good fight
I hear you brother.Sometimes it works,sometimes it don't.
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Wow ... YOU Deleted my comments
you don't have to do that.If you don't agree with me,,let me know what you feel I've done wrong.
@@garageguy879 YOU deleted my comments
no,I didn't
@@garageguy879 yea ok ...
I have 3 never the first problem
I hope you continue to have good luck with them.
I think his was a Operator Error. 😢😢
@@timmybullock9884 I doubt that. You can see the video he has posted of the gun not functioning, and it is clearly not operator error.