Timestamps and summary: 2:24 the planned final message is (i.e. the CLOSE): "sounds good, my number is ####, what's yours?" You need to make your messages get to this point. 4:04 The 3 key things to close a girl: 1) attraction (fun, assertive, values in line with hers, physically ofc) 2) comfort (let her get to know you a little bit at least, have some personality) 3) commitment (mention plans before your close, or at least the CONCEPT) Note: after these buckets are filled, close. Time matters since she has more options than you. If you can't then move on since you're wasting both of your guy's time. 7:48 The usual order/strat: open -> attraction -> comfort -> commitment -> close 8:24 Example (hinge): (responses and my full analysis + notes) Tips: - don't kiss her ass and bow down to her and agree with everything she says - seed the plan early on. Be creative. HINGE CONVO prompt: the way to win me over is witty banter and intelligent conversations todd: I feel like you copied off my paper for this test ;) analysis: - Interesting response, it's not boring. it makes you stand out. - Being cocky (you cheated off MY TEST) = showing a bit of attraction (since it makes it seem like you're close, after all you're cheating off of each other) - playful, non serious attitude, esp with the ;) at the end - plays to the prompt girl: in this case we'll both past the test with flying colors todd: perhaps i'll take you for a celebratory drink as long as you don't copy my order and blindly agree with everything i say all night - keeps the playful attitude - plants the 'seed' of a hangout - a bit of push pull: let me take u out for a drink, but don't copy me and blindly agree (implying a bit of dumbness but in a playful, joking way) - Push: tells her 'you still have a standard to meet' with "don't blindly agree" (this is a qualifier - like she has to EARN a date with me) - Pull: I'll take you for a drink (adding more attraction) - She accepts the frame here too, with you leading and her following girl: maybe if you let me order first I'll blame you for copying me instead todd: only if you have very good taste, but i suppose it could be fun to find out - comfort (she can joke around) and commitment (plans are set) are good now, the aim is to generate more attraction - this is a shit test. the response still keeps the qualifier - i.e. you don't give up your frame or power. girl: i have a tendancy to go for less common items on the menu so be forwarned todd: i prefer the tried and true best over the flavour of the month in drinks as well as companions so perhaps we'll be good in all areas - her response is comfort - i.e. shes letting you know a bit about her - todds response is basically reciprocating her comfort, letting her know a bit about you, and also saying "I don't 100% agree with you, but i have values and will stick to them and they may align with yours" - reciprocating comfort: ensuring you'll stick around, it's not just a 1 night stand/for sex, etc. - note how this message reinforces commitment because it still talks about the plans indirectly girl: sounds wonderful, what are some of your tried and true methods in drinks as well as companions todd: I can't say it's particularly sophisticated, but i like wines that are a little bit sweet and fruity and mixed drinks with champagne. (100% logical, no game). As far as favourite companions, maybe i'll introduce you to some if you prove to be one also - this is a comfort seeking message, like "i want factual comfort with you" - she's looking to see how you respond, and if you'll stick around or not - give her what she wants (logical response if shes asking for it). - wow that last sentence is amazing. the confidence it takes to send something like that, without fear that it'll scare her off is... wow girl: challenge excepted todd: the closer - you send the closer when she shows attraction (she likes you), comfort (she wants to meet up), and commitment (let's do this soon vibes)
Update about Todd. 2 years ago I discovered Todd. If you are a bit technical guy, Todd will get you laid for sure, if you take a bit of bravery and also listen to him carefully. 2 years in, lost v card after 10 months, now I'm in a LTR for the past 10 months as well and I'm very satisfied with this aspect of life, even thinking about family and stuff at the age of 26. It turned out that I'm not that into having one night stands, but hey, wouldn't even knew it if not Todd. Thanks todd
From a female perspective. Make sure you ask us out early. Too much messaging leads to boredom and we will be swiping elsewhere. Go for the date! Show confidence.
It’s different for different girls, you can kinda feel when you’re good to set up the date. You need a good transition too, something relating to the context of what you were just saying… you can’t be talking about the weather and then say hey do you wanna grab a drink? Texting on these apps is so complicated and I hate that these are almost a necessity these days
Imo, set up a date within ~3 days of matching. Everyones different. But for every woman that thinks thats too soon, there's 2 other women who dont want you to wait too long.
Todd I have been watching your videos for years and my game has improved a lot. During the video I was testing myself with my responses, compared to yours, I still feel like I'm a novice, truly a master of the game man. Respect.
Please use this information! It will make a ton of difference for you. Also, check out my FREE online messaging guide here: www.toddvdating.com/onlinemsg
Yeah, but she fundamentally unmatched you first. Those types of responses do warrant a block in light of her just wanting attention. Women win by getting attention. Men win with sex. A first date wasn't good unless you get a second date, which always hinges on what the girl does.
I have been following Todd since almost day 1 and what he says he is true. BUT holy fuck. When it comes to online texting, why should it be that we have to have these well-thought-out clever lines with these fickle girls. When i approach one outside I just say 'hi', smile and talk to her normally, which works very well. Do that online and they instantly unmatch because you didnt follow the protocol of talking to the female online. So my strategy is just to talk to them as i would to the offline girl as a filtering system. If they didn't unmatch it typically means I got one that doesnt have a short attention span and values getting to know me, versus having to be entertained. Luckily i dont hv to rely on online dating apps as it would drive me fn mental
Depending on your natural ability this can actually be quite difficult. The fact it requires over 15 minutes of explanation I believe is a testament to that fact. The only real take aways I got from this are don't ask to go on a date right away, unless you can somehow cleverly wrap the suggestion into a challenge where you're not actually asking. Then to somehow frame that conversation within the framework of the same challenge until you provide your number then ask for her hers. That's not easy for everyone, including myself. Assuming it's successful, the next question becomes, if you're out on an actual date are you still expected to keep communicating like this in order to maintain her level of interest in you? I could not keep up a facade like that indefinitely.
Todd, good job on putting out a useful video with actionable info instead of just a teaser where you reiterate the video title for 5 minutes and say "if you want to learn the steps I said I'd explain join my program."
*The idea of using humor or playful questions can really help break the ice and create a relaxed atmosphere. It’s interesting how the right opener can set the tone for the entire conversation.*
I feel like being on a dating app for 22 years is opposite of the outcome of being on dating sites in the first place. I guess success on dating apps is based on what your looking for and not a forever partner
As a female I was thinking the same. He says he wants to make her feel comfortable that he’s not just after a fling, but it appears that is total misrepresentation. His banter is excellent, but the whole thing seems to be just a bit of a game with him. Surely in 22 years there have been women he considers worthy of a long-term relationship?
Yes it works with women who have more depth than a dinner plate but the crappy ones (seems to be majority where I live) are literally shallower than the table the said dinner plate is on. If you’re hot it’s a match, if not doesn’t matter what you say, she lacks the mental capacity to process it anyway.
Todds texting looks very thoughtful and very complicated to me, but it's his style. It's not my style to think that much. I feel like going with the witty dictionar of lines with me on date Yet, he's right, from a few texts, you can get the date. Mines are way shorter and more dumber, more simpler, but they do the job. Everyone has to find their own style, but they don't need Ph.D!!! What I learned is that if the girl wants more confort, she will ask the questions to get to know more about you. However the way to get good at this is trough a lot of trial and error. You need to do it a lot and take risks, to learn, some classes are not gonna be enough
The no 1 goal in interacting with women on apps (texting) is not to necessarily to get a date but to check her out. Who she is, get a better picture, does she seem fun and have some brains. If so, yes I’d like to date her. But don’t be afraid guys to have standards and ’test’ the woman just as she is checking you out.
Todd, Good video.. It's amazing how much on line dating and the sexual market place as a whole has evolved since I first got on tinder in 2014. I'd really like to see a video on methods for messaging a girl with no profile info. A find a lot of 8-10's on tinder have no profile info at all and just photos.. there's only so much you can play off pictures to use as an opener or to get the convo going.
In my opinion, that was 15 minutes of texting where neither person learned anything at all about the other person. Sounds like this would work with shallow people that base just on looks?
Used this today and it worked exactly like he said. Got a date for next Thursday after talking on the phone. She will show for sure. You need to think creatively though and pay attention to what’s missing attraction, comfort, or commitment to make sure all are there before you close. Took me 8 messages including my opener. This process makes so much sense yet I never thought of it or heard of it in this way before. Todd do you have a patrion or PayPal I can donate to? Your advice is always spot on and I’ve been using it for years.
I’m very successful on getting women attracted. This guy has good content.. and the reason it sounds complicated, is because women are complex. They are listening to their feelings in every way. Us men don’t feel what they feel… I use this stuff but I also throw in my own shit tests… When you date a lot of women you get to a point of being on top. I can date any woman I want….i need to make sure she has standards and she has confidence.
These techniques work only if the girl actually respond to you. If no girl responds to you at all or gives you a chance at all, then what? Game doesn't matter, only looks do, all the time.
@@mojekonto9287 You are right, not saying game doesn't matter at all, but it does matter once you have the looks first, cause if you lack the looks, then no matter what gamne you got, you still will be ignored
Or photos a bit more professional or with a friends opinion .... I've seen photos of a fem. friend of mine😁 she's not unattractive but wonders about only few likes. I said, jesus, what do you choose!!!! and search my phone for some better pics of her in my opinion . After the change she get way more likes. But i also see the men's pics 🤦🏻 mostly complete desaster... No live in them, static facial expression, too serious no joy.... like some bad stuff for a job interview😁
@@andreaspeters3773 I had professional photos taken of me and it changed nothing. There is only so much you can change with photos without alter8ng completely someone's looks. If you are an unattractive man and short, ots pretty much over. You just gave an example your female friend, for females it's a lot easier to get likes, you can literally look like shark as a woman and still get likes because men are not so fussy about looks
@@komododragosh ok, mmh.. I hope they(pics) are fun and positive. But in my opinion.. everyone does better in his own league. I have a friend who was very good at tinder, medium attractive, but very confident, lays nearly every girl he met there. But then he mets his true love in real live.... I think do more things in your freetime, hobbies etc... to say it on point : Not ONE!!! guy of my friends met his love on a dating app or a club.... everytime it was in real life and mostly by accident not by hook-up. So, don't be discouraged look forward 👍
As a woman, I can say for myself: the advice is great, and the techniques are great. I hope the guys who watch the video will be able to use them wisely and get the desired date. And the main thing is not to screw up on a date. You need to accept these tips and implement them in your life. Because if the guy was frankly an introvert and communicated at the level: Hey, what's up? So such a drastic change in communication will be very noticeable.
As a man I tell you, keep in mind, that confident and good at flirting relationship material men are not on dating apps because they are not single. Those that are good at flirting and are on dating apps are not looking for anything long term. So if you want to find long term partner on dating apps , he's going to be shy and awkward.
There isn't much utility in this without knowing how old the match is, and how attractive she is. You can use bad game on a fat woman or a post wall woman and it doesn't really mean much. Ideally if you want to pitch a text framework as more or less universal due to being based on solid game principles, you need to show that it works on more than one girl, AND you need to show that the girls it works on are prime girls (18-24 and HB7+).
Women are naive when young. It’s why they are married from 28-35+ in the west and not from 20-24 (when they arent being taken seriously for the most part). They are the easiest. If you can’t get a girl in her ‘prime’ your pretty much doomed. Girls in their ‘prime’ / my age group do not know that they are in their ‘prime’. We don’t see it that way 😂😴
The phone is for setting dates, don’t talk or text more than 5-10 minutes. I just text her my number and ask her to call me. She’ll either call or texted her number and asked me to call, or she’ll disappeared. The ones that disappeared which means she wasn’t that interested anyway, so my time is not wasted.
One that's been working for me... Me: "Have any tattoos?" or "What's your favorite tattoo" Her: "yes, no, blah blah" Me: variant of "Wanna get matching face tats saturday?" Her: hopefully "lol, no" Me: "Oh, too soon? How about just coffee, drinks, dinner, etc. And see what happens?"
Excellent strategy. If I were a girl and I see "Have any tattoos", I would assume that you have an upper class upbringing, and you are vetting girls based on that. And then the "Wanna get matching face tats saturday" is just so unexpected.
Awesome Todd. It can be unbelievable until you do it for yourself or watch a Master do it, and then it just opens up your mind to ask 'Just what is actually possible'? Great work. Thanks
What a god you are i am so blessed to have known you when i reach a high lvl i definitely want to reward you one day you deserve it . I know it sounds like some shity thing to say but you are the father i never had with this stuff or the help i never knew I needed
Good advice! On my current tinderdate which I'm still dating after a month and on the edge of being in a relationship woth it took me 7 messages to set up the first date. The previous date which I was in a relationship with for half a year it took 8 messages. I sort of applied some of your strategies unknowingly, and they worked. Rusty in the game after ending a 20 year relationship, but wxcitibg to be dating again.
@@dennisfabian2570 oh, for sure. But self-interest is not what I'm referring too. I'm referring to being able to clearly lure and bait other people with formulaic tactics
I hear ya. That's another reason I think Julien is the best coach. That focus on authenticity. However, OLD is bonkers and the point is to get together. So I think this is one area where the Uber analytical Todd stuff may have value for someone like me. It's such a time suck when women just drop off for no apparent reason. Sure some of them meet a guy they want to keep dating, but honestly most I talk to admit they just get overwhelmed and can't handle all the messages so they just fall back and stop using the app(s).
@@lovetohate028 Thats just to lure. There is no script on the date you just be yourself. And if you want it to go well, you can make sure areas of the convo give her the sense of comfort, commitment etc.
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human are automats.What can you do about it? Embrace it.
the most important thing with relationships is escalation: to know what it is and how to do it... Todd is great at explaining what the different stages of escalation is and what the sufficient conditions for it are, but usually how someone gets to understand how all the elements should be integrated together so he can capitalize potentiality and momentum in as many scenarios as possible is difficult to explain by nature; hence whether someone can really understand it is a totally different matter... also Todd's personality cannot be transplanted to all men even though his conceptualizations are accurate and much of the US culture behind his tips is not globally accepted... and I know Todd has videos on how to get good fast, but I would say that people should understand the non-technical aspects of game that usually circumscribe the technical utility of game which likely leads to failure of improvement... if you are already awesome (even just being normal in front of a woman of your true desire before trying to demonstrate your personality and maintain attraction is hard for learners), a few techniques simply help you standout and make deals, otherwise techniques and outergame can only go so far if not becoming an obstacle to your dream goal.
honestly it's more about finding the dating coach that fits your own personality most! If a man can recognise himself in Todd personality-wise then Todd is the right guy for him. that's the beauty of variety
Oh I'm the king of two word, 3 word answers on dating websites. That's all I get. If I get a few sentences, it's usually by a woman in her 40's with multiple kids. They love me. But if a girl is in her late 20's, 30's and even with one kid, I'll still get nothing or 3 word messages. Whenever I say, "you can do better than that," they unmatch me. Haha !
I have had a lot more success just entirely dropping the smalltalk on the apps, and just going straight for the meetup talk, after a funny opener of course.
5x0=0 , 10x0 still equals 0.. I have a fantastic gf, but never on apps like tinder - that would just be silly. Lol (I did install tinder a couple decades ago, and un-installed it the next day once I understood what it was all about)
Me : Tell the truth and be honest about my genuine intentions of a long term relationship, pictures of myself and information about my hobbies. Also Me : Been on dating apps for 3 years after splitting up with my girlfriend 4 years ago and I've not had a match or conversation with a single woman on any dating app.
This video is absolutely useless. First part is that you need to build attraction and comfort which is obvious. Second part is an example, but I still don't know how to come up with what I write. This example doesn't teach me anything. It's like if you have a task to come up with a random prime number that is higher than 1000, if you give me an example of a prime number like that, I still don't know how to come up with a next prime number like that. Tell me the algorithm, not an example of a result. Edit: Sorry for the negative comment. I think it's just stuff that it is difficult to teach.
Sorry, this video is all right. I still agree with what I wrote in my critique, but I understand that the videos have to be a bit like that, 99% of videos on RUclips are worse, so your video is still good.
That is typical for any type of expert on youtube. You are given clues and hints for free. That is already pretty useful, but if you want to get everything laid out clearly with a lot of real life examples and even more tips, buy their course :) I fully understand it and I support such approach. We can't expect to be given knowledge entirely for free when that knowledge took a lot of time and effort to be acquired.
@Todd V Dating - can you please please please do a video explaining how to get a girl to your place first time from Instagram ideally or dating apps in general? Getting a girl to your place without a date is super convenient and helps with sex but it seems harder to do and makes girls defensive cause it can seem like you only want sex, what are your thoughts on this? Appreciate the content as always!
Bro, if you invite a girl to yours without taking her on a 1st date, it's obvious you just wana have sex. Girls aren't stupid, you might as well be open and honest in the first place.
Maybe he just sacrificed his relationships to stay single for a continuous mission of teaching us, so that we don't stay single, Todd the Jesus of Dating ;)
Pretty often it turns out that the woman you matched has 2 or 3 children and no job. If you don't clarify these thing before the date you just waste your time.
Tinder was horrible. 99 percent of the women ads are fake. Match is the worst site thiugh. I'm in Long Island NY. I paid for Match for 3 months hoping to find a girlfriend that could lead to something serious. I only got 2 responses back. There's literally no single women on this site and a total waste of money.
Each of her messages I was like "how tf are you supposed to respond to that" and nothing I thought of was remotely close to his replies -_- I seriously find this more difficult than building robots, writing songs, and outdoor rock climbing. I can't believe how effortless it seems for some guys
The first scenarios never happened to me cause I’m not gonna text a woman for three weeks. That’s never gonna happen several messages you exchange numbers and now you’re in the real world couple of texts a phone call. Decide if you wanna meet simple as that if you’re both interested in each other, that’s it there’s no strategies just be yourself
I have the exact same experience with men! It's so disheartening. I have messaged about 125 guys, been asked out twice, and had many no responses if I ask to meet in person...
Dude. Even if you go on a date with her. She still gonna talk to other guys and go on date with other guys! It's never your girl simply your turn! So don't fall into this trap to stay only for her and stop the game. Because she won't stop the game and you will end up played.
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when i sign up for the online msg guide i dont get an email
@@leonflows same
Men's strategy in dating: a 12 books encyclopedia. Women's strategy in dating: Swipe left, swipe right.
I can tell you're failing lmao
Bravo! Funny as Hell and true. Perfect
That's good, it means men are improving and women are not
@@PremiumUserUltrawhy are you here 💀
5-7 messages max get on the phone/ video call to avoid catfishes! Disagree go drive 1 hour to comeback 5 minutes later or sit with a monster 😂🎉
Bro, I'm taking notes... Getting a degree in physics has been easier than going out with a girl
😂
Literally the same for me
Reaaaaaal shit 😂
Guysss it worked! I got many dates during last months and a girlfriend! Im not joking 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Keep studying guys!
Same with engineering.
Bro said “it isnt complicated” then gives us a long ass breakdown
Step one: get the ring
Step 2: go to mordor
Step 3: throw the ring into the pits of m8jnt doo.
Step 4: talk to a girl
The guy talks way way to much I honestly can't ever learn anything
😂😂😂😂
Have you ever put effort into learning something worthwhile?
😂😂😂@@nickk7425
Timestamps and summary:
2:24 the planned final message is (i.e. the CLOSE): "sounds good, my number is ####, what's yours?" You need to make your messages get to this point.
4:04 The 3 key things to close a girl:
1) attraction (fun, assertive, values in line with hers, physically ofc)
2) comfort (let her get to know you a little bit at least, have some personality)
3) commitment (mention plans before your close, or at least the CONCEPT)
Note: after these buckets are filled, close. Time matters since she has more options than you. If you can't then move on since you're wasting both of your guy's time.
7:48 The usual order/strat:
open -> attraction -> comfort -> commitment -> close
8:24 Example (hinge): (responses and my full analysis + notes)
Tips:
- don't kiss her ass and bow down to her and agree with everything she says
- seed the plan early on. Be creative.
HINGE CONVO
prompt: the way to win me over is witty banter and intelligent conversations
todd: I feel like you copied off my paper for this test ;)
analysis:
- Interesting response, it's not boring. it makes you stand out.
- Being cocky (you cheated off MY TEST) = showing a bit of attraction (since it makes it seem like you're close, after all you're cheating off of each other)
- playful, non serious attitude, esp with the ;) at the end
- plays to the prompt
girl: in this case we'll both past the test with flying colors
todd: perhaps i'll take you for a celebratory drink as long as you don't copy my order and blindly agree with everything i say all night
- keeps the playful attitude
- plants the 'seed' of a hangout
- a bit of push pull: let me take u out for a drink, but don't copy me and blindly agree (implying a bit of dumbness but in a playful, joking way)
- Push: tells her 'you still have a standard to meet' with "don't blindly agree" (this is a qualifier - like she has to EARN a date with me)
- Pull: I'll take you for a drink (adding more attraction)
- She accepts the frame here too, with you leading and her following
girl: maybe if you let me order first I'll blame you for copying me instead
todd: only if you have very good taste, but i suppose it could be fun to find out
- comfort (she can joke around) and commitment (plans are set) are good now, the aim is to generate more attraction
- this is a shit test. the response still keeps the qualifier - i.e. you don't give up your frame or power.
girl: i have a tendancy to go for less common items on the menu so be forwarned
todd: i prefer the tried and true best over the flavour of the month in drinks as well as companions so perhaps we'll be good in all areas
- her response is comfort - i.e. shes letting you know a bit about her
- todds response is basically reciprocating her comfort, letting her know a bit about you, and also saying "I don't 100% agree with you, but i have values and will stick to them and they may align with yours"
- reciprocating comfort: ensuring you'll stick around, it's not just a 1 night stand/for sex, etc.
- note how this message reinforces commitment because it still talks about the plans indirectly
girl: sounds wonderful, what are some of your tried and true methods in drinks as well as companions
todd: I can't say it's particularly sophisticated, but i like wines that are a little bit sweet and fruity and mixed drinks with champagne. (100% logical, no game). As far as favourite companions, maybe i'll introduce you to some if you prove to be one also
- this is a comfort seeking message, like "i want factual comfort with you"
- she's looking to see how you respond, and if you'll stick around or not
- give her what she wants (logical response if shes asking for it).
- wow that last sentence is amazing. the confidence it takes to send something like that, without fear that it'll scare her off is... wow
girl: challenge excepted
todd: the closer
- you send the closer when she shows attraction (she likes you), comfort (she wants to meet up), and commitment (let's do this soon vibes)
Thanks bro
@@TheCoresteps np man 🤙
Legend for sharing this!
Write that down write that down! 😂
I am proficent in C++ and talking to women is more complicated
5 to 10 times more dates, 0x5x10 = 0 😬
Use Terrence Howard math
I immediately scrolled the comments knowing I’d find this joke
Update about Todd. 2 years ago I discovered Todd. If you are a bit technical guy, Todd will get you laid for sure, if you take a bit of bravery and also listen to him carefully. 2 years in, lost v card after 10 months, now I'm in a LTR for the past 10 months as well and I'm very satisfied with this aspect of life, even thinking about family and stuff at the age of 26. It turned out that I'm not that into having one night stands, but hey, wouldn't even knew it if not Todd.
Thanks todd
From a female perspective. Make sure you ask us out early. Too much messaging leads to boredom and we will be swiping elsewhere. Go for the date! Show confidence.
So why do they always act like you gotta talk more before?
As a woman, asking out too soon is a turn off.
It’s different for different girls, you can kinda feel when you’re good to set up the date. You need a good transition too, something relating to the context of what you were just saying… you can’t be talking about the weather and then say hey do you wanna grab a drink?
Texting on these apps is so complicated and I hate that these are almost a necessity these days
With inconsistent feedback, it’s best to stick with what Todd’s saying for a high success rate over time.
Imo, set up a date within ~3 days of matching.
Everyones different. But for every woman that thinks thats too soon, there's 2 other women who dont want you to wait too long.
This video is essentially perfect also for cold approach, not just online dating, lately Todd is absolutely killing it
absolutely..great to see at least ONE RSD guy still creating dating content lol
@@hupat77, Madison is also, but he’s a bit vague in it.
lol lately
absolutely bro
Cold approach doesn’t work
Todd I have been watching your videos for years and my game has improved a lot. During the video I was testing myself with my responses, compared to yours, I still feel like I'm a novice, truly a master of the game man. Respect.
If it's worked for 22 years, then it sounds like it hasn't worked.
😂😂😂
He's just tapping
Please use this information! It will make a ton of difference for you. Also, check out my FREE online messaging guide here: www.toddvdating.com/onlinemsg
Hey Todd, The link does not send out the Guide... a few friends and me did not receive the-email after submitting it, maybe it needs to be fixed?
Doesn’t work
Hey Todd, some of us aren't being sent the guide after submitting our email. Might wanna have your team check on that.
Same for me Todd, please let us know when it is fixed... This is very important information, I can work my weaknesses with this.
I always say "I'd crawl through broken glass to hear you fart through a telephone"
Todd,
this is a great example of using subtext and frame control in communication.
That's it. We as men are doomed to be single forever.
Preach. I’ve been on dating sites since 2012 and I haven’t been on a single date and I’m 25. Some men just aren’t fortunate than other men are.
It is so weird. I mean there are as many women as men. Why does it work that way? haha
@@lukio3441the populations on dating apps are uneven.
Right woman suck in this gen
Fun convos. Thats the key right there. Its less about what is said and more about how they felt saying/ hearing it.
What an example?
imagine getting matches to message
😂😂😂😂😂😂@@zloungeact
@@zloungeactan alternative to this would be being attractive as well in case yours is too hard
One word answers. = unmatch. Silence after trying to set up a date. = unmatch
Yeah, but she fundamentally unmatched you first. Those types of responses do warrant a block in light of her just wanting attention. Women win by getting attention. Men win with sex. A first date wasn't good unless you get a second date, which always hinges on what the girl does.
@1bosstv A good 1st date is only good if you are compatible. 1st dates shouldn't work out a long of the time becuase evreyone is not compatible.
Attraction, comfort, and commitment
I have been following Todd since almost day 1 and what he says he is true. BUT holy fuck. When it comes to online texting, why should it be that we have to have these well-thought-out clever lines with these fickle girls. When i approach one outside I just say 'hi', smile and talk to her normally, which works very well. Do that online and they instantly unmatch because you didnt follow the protocol of talking to the female online. So my strategy is just to talk to them as i would to the offline girl as a filtering system. If they didn't unmatch it typically means I got one that doesnt have a short attention span and values getting to know me, versus having to be entertained. Luckily i dont hv to rely on online dating apps as it would drive me fn mental
Todd is like Neo, when it comes to dating - he sees the code - whereas I'm still wondering around the matrix trying to make sense of it:) haha
Depending on your natural ability this can actually be quite difficult. The fact it requires over 15 minutes of explanation I believe is a testament to that fact. The only real take aways I got from this are don't ask to go on a date right away, unless you can somehow cleverly wrap the suggestion into a challenge where you're not actually asking. Then to somehow frame that conversation within the framework of the same challenge until you provide your number then ask for her hers. That's not easy for everyone, including myself. Assuming it's successful, the next question becomes, if you're out on an actual date are you still expected to keep communicating like this in order to maintain her level of interest in you? I could not keep up a facade like that indefinitely.
is there an AI for this?
step one, be attractive
FCK
Todd, good job on putting out a useful video with actionable info instead of just a teaser where you reiterate the video title for 5 minutes and say "if you want to learn the steps I said I'd explain join my program."
*The idea of using humor or playful questions can really help break the ice and create a relaxed atmosphere. It’s interesting how the right opener can set the tone for the entire conversation.*
I feel like being on a dating app for 22 years is opposite of the outcome of being on dating sites in the first place. I guess success on dating apps is based on what your looking for and not a forever partner
That’s what I was thinking, I feel like that’s not a brag about. 😂
As a female I was thinking the same. He says he wants to make her feel comfortable that he’s not just after a fling, but it appears that is total misrepresentation. His banter is excellent, but the whole thing seems to be just a bit of a game with him. Surely in 22 years there have been women he considers worthy of a long-term relationship?
There’s no proof that human beings are exclusively monogamous creatures.
Yes it works with women who have more depth than a dinner plate but the crappy ones (seems to be majority where I live) are literally shallower than the table the said dinner plate is on. If you’re hot it’s a match, if not doesn’t matter what you say, she lacks the mental capacity to process it anyway.
Todds texting looks very thoughtful and very complicated to me, but it's his style. It's not my style to think that much. I feel like going with the witty dictionar of lines with me on date
Yet, he's right, from a few texts, you can get the date. Mines are way shorter and more dumber, more simpler, but they do the job. Everyone has to find their own style, but they don't need Ph.D!!!
What I learned is that if the girl wants more confort, she will ask the questions to get to know more about you. However the way to get good at this is trough a lot of trial and error. You need to do it a lot and take risks, to learn, some classes are not gonna be enough
The no 1 goal in interacting with women on apps (texting) is not to necessarily to get a date but to check her out. Who she is, get a better picture, does she seem fun and have some brains. If so, yes I’d like to date her. But don’t be afraid guys to have standards and ’test’ the woman just as she is checking you out.
Todd,
Good video.. It's amazing how much on line dating and the sexual market place as a whole has evolved since I first got on tinder in 2014. I'd really like to see a video on methods for messaging a girl with no profile info. A find a lot of 8-10's on tinder have no profile info at all and just photos.. there's only so much you can play off pictures to use as an opener or to get the convo going.
Be careful homie….. those types of profiles are mostly “fake”….. especially when the only info is an IG or Snap and nothing else 🙌🏽
Or they're just driving traffic to their Onlyfans.
@davi😂😂dpaxton6402
In my opinion, that was 15 minutes of texting where neither person learned anything at all about the other person. Sounds like this would work with shallow people that base just on looks?
working for 22 years? damn brother idk if it has if you are still on after 22 years
Used this today and it worked exactly like he said. Got a date for next Thursday after talking on the phone. She will show for sure. You need to think creatively though and pay attention to what’s missing attraction, comfort, or commitment to make sure all are there before you close. Took me 8 messages including my opener. This process makes so much sense yet I never thought of it or heard of it in this way before. Todd do you have a patrion or PayPal I can donate to? Your advice is always spot on and I’ve been using it for years.
"She will show for sure" is an extremely bold statement in the world of women. Their opinions of you and emotions surrounding men change like the wind
@renegadezen7841 Well thank you for the compliment yes I am extremely bold
@@jacobknox9171 Ha, good answer.
You got the spirit.
How did it go champ?
This girl is now like I can't believe I went on a date with this guy. 😳
What he also did in his first comment is create a frame where she can be creative in her responses
I needed this tbh, just got on Bumble and I'm starting to get more matches and there is a bit of a learning curve fr
I’m very successful on getting women attracted. This guy has good content.. and the reason it sounds complicated, is because women are complex. They are listening to their feelings in every way. Us men don’t feel what they feel…
I use this stuff but I also throw in my own shit tests…
When you date a lot of women you get to a point of being on top.
I can date any woman I want….i need to make sure she has standards and she has confidence.
well shit, i have a date now thank you Todd :O
These techniques work only if the girl actually respond to you. If no girl responds to you at all or gives you a chance at all, then what? Game doesn't matter, only looks do, all the time.
As he says in another video, looks do matter, but only to get your foot in the door. That is when you need to start using your game.
@@mojekonto9287 You are right, not saying game doesn't matter at all, but it does matter once you have the looks first, cause if you lack the looks, then no matter what gamne you got, you still will be ignored
Or photos a bit more professional or with a friends opinion ....
I've seen photos of a fem. friend of mine😁 she's not unattractive but wonders about only few likes. I said, jesus, what do you choose!!!! and search my phone for some better pics of her in my opinion . After the change she get way more likes.
But i also see the men's pics 🤦🏻 mostly complete desaster... No live in them, static facial expression, too serious no joy.... like some bad stuff for a job interview😁
@@andreaspeters3773 I had professional photos taken of me and it changed nothing. There is only so much you can change with photos without alter8ng completely someone's looks. If you are an unattractive man and short, ots pretty much over. You just gave an example your female friend, for females it's a lot easier to get likes, you can literally look like shark as a woman and still get likes because men are not so fussy about looks
@@komododragosh ok, mmh..
I hope they(pics) are fun and positive.
But in my opinion.. everyone does better in his own league.
I have a friend who was very good at tinder, medium attractive, but very confident, lays nearly every girl he met there. But then he mets his true love in real live....
I think do more things in your freetime, hobbies etc... to say it on point : Not ONE!!! guy of my friends met his love on a dating app or a club.... everytime it was in real life and mostly by accident not by hook-up.
So, don't be discouraged look forward 👍
As a woman, I can say for myself: the advice is great, and the techniques are great.
I hope the guys who watch the video will be able to use them wisely and get the desired date. And the main thing is not to screw up on a date. You need to accept these tips and implement them in your life. Because if the guy was frankly an introvert and communicated at the level: Hey, what's up? So such a drastic change in communication will be very noticeable.
Introverts are bad?
Should they never get girls?
😂
Should they force themselves to act as an extrovert?
I’m an introvert and have a 95% success rate on first dates lol. Problem is since I am an introvert I mainly rely on dating apps to get dates
As a man I tell you, keep in mind, that confident and good at flirting relationship material men are not on dating apps because they are not single. Those that are good at flirting and are on dating apps are not looking for anything long term. So if you want to find long term partner on dating apps , he's going to be shy and awkward.
All I need is 1 and I’m already 100% getting more dates
Amazing content. Please make more of exactly this! Online dating is confusing
There isn't much utility in this without knowing how old the match is, and how attractive she is. You can use bad game on a fat woman or a post wall woman and it doesn't really mean much. Ideally if you want to pitch a text framework as more or less universal due to being based on solid game principles, you need to show that it works on more than one girl, AND you need to show that the girls it works on are prime girls (18-24 and HB7+).
Women are naive when young. It’s why they are married from 28-35+ in the west and not from 20-24 (when they arent being taken seriously for the most part). They are the easiest. If you can’t get a girl in her ‘prime’ your pretty much doomed. Girls in their ‘prime’ / my age group do not know that they are in their ‘prime’. We don’t see it that way 😂😴
@Jake And mostly, it's free. What a fabulous gift from Todd! We should just be grateful
the other rsd guys don't do that
*_make sure your profile stands out, otherwise you don't get any matches to text :)_*
The phone is for setting dates, don’t talk or text more than 5-10 minutes. I just text her my number and ask her to call me. She’ll either call or texted her number and asked me to call, or she’ll disappeared. The ones that disappeared which means she wasn’t that interested anyway, so my time is not wasted.
The more atraction she has the easier will be. I had a few dates where I was able to seal the date in few ramdom texts.
Awesome content, mate. As someone who's getting a bit more activity on Hinge, this is very helpful!
This really what women like haven't stopped rolling my eyes lol
Good advice Todd, however, what I found that helped me the most was getting a guide or a course that helps you step by step.
Other videos like this are usually really creepy
Your very well spoken and helpful
One that's been working for me...
Me: "Have any tattoos?" or "What's your favorite tattoo"
Her: "yes, no, blah blah"
Me: variant of "Wanna get matching face tats saturday?"
Her: hopefully "lol, no"
Me: "Oh, too soon? How about just coffee, drinks, dinner, etc. And see what happens?"
Excellent strategy. If I were a girl and I see "Have any tattoos", I would assume that you have an upper class upbringing, and you are vetting girls based on that. And then the "Wanna get matching face tats saturday" is just so unexpected.
Awesome Todd. It can be unbelievable until you do it for yourself or watch a Master do it, and then it just opens up your mind to ask 'Just what is actually possible'?
Great work. Thanks
This guy knows what he is talking about, one minute in, and you know it... I give a like, than i watch the rest of the video :)
What a god you are i am so blessed to have known you when i reach a high lvl i definitely want to reward you one day you deserve it . I know it sounds like some shity thing to say but you are the father i never had with this stuff or the help i never knew I needed
This man is very clever 🤗
You just found out my game tripled with this guy now I can pull any chick available
I’ve cold approached so many women and never gotten a date, always ghosted. This shit is like math to me and I’m failing miserably.
Good advice! On my current tinderdate which I'm still dating after a month and on the edge of being in a relationship woth it took me 7 messages to set up the first date. The previous date which I was in a relationship with for half a year it took 8 messages. I sort of applied some of your strategies unknowingly, and they worked. Rusty in the game after ending a 20 year relationship, but wxcitibg to be dating again.
Just followed this method. My 5th message was the phone number and I got the text. Lol. Fastest I've ever gotten off the app
When you are able to break down human interaction into a formulaic technique, how do you avoid being completely disgusted with others?
Because everyone (also you and your beloved) acts in their best self interest.. and that’s good to a degree
@@dennisfabian2570 oh, for sure. But self-interest is not what I'm referring too. I'm referring to being able to clearly lure and bait other people with formulaic tactics
I hear ya. That's another reason I think Julien is the best coach. That focus on authenticity. However, OLD is bonkers and the point is to get together. So I think this is one area where the Uber analytical Todd stuff may have value for someone like me. It's such a time suck when women just drop off for no apparent reason. Sure some of them meet a guy they want to keep dating, but honestly most I talk to admit they just get overwhelmed and can't handle all the messages so they just fall back and stop using the app(s).
@@lovetohate028 Thats just to lure. There is no script on the date you just be yourself. And if you want it to go well, you can make sure areas of the convo give her the sense of comfort, commitment etc.
human are automats.What can you do about it? Embrace it.
the most important thing with relationships is escalation: to know what it is and how to do it... Todd is great at explaining what the different stages of escalation is and what the sufficient conditions for it are, but usually how someone gets to understand how all the elements should be integrated together so he can capitalize potentiality and momentum in as many scenarios as possible is difficult to explain by nature; hence whether someone can really understand it is a totally different matter... also Todd's personality cannot be transplanted to all men even though his conceptualizations are accurate and much of the US culture behind his tips is not globally accepted... and I know Todd has videos on how to get good fast, but I would say that people should understand the non-technical aspects of game that usually circumscribe the technical utility of game which likely leads to failure of improvement... if you are already awesome (even just being normal in front of a woman of your true desire before trying to demonstrate your personality and maintain attraction is hard for learners), a few techniques simply help you standout and make deals, otherwise techniques and outergame can only go so far if not becoming an obstacle to your dream goal.
honestly it's more about finding the dating coach that fits your own personality most! If a man can recognise himself in Todd personality-wise then Todd is the right guy for him. that's the beauty of variety
One year, 400 matches, 1 date. Not going back 😂
The game is STRONG with this one, Obi Wan... Good dialogue!
ya but how many matches does one have to go through to get this amazing interaction? the unpopular answer is a lot unfortunately
Should I be taking dating app advice from a guy who's been on dating apps for 22 years?
bros smashing on the regs
Oh I'm the king of two word, 3 word answers on dating websites. That's all I get. If I get a few sentences, it's usually by a woman in her 40's with multiple kids. They love me. But if a girl is in her late 20's, 30's and even with one kid, I'll still get nothing or 3 word messages. Whenever I say, "you can do better than that," they unmatch me. Haha !
You need to address all the fakes and bots on there.
I have had a lot more success just entirely dropping the smalltalk on the apps, and just going straight for the meetup talk, after a funny opener of course.
Dude I was missing a certain jenesepa in my texting game and this video stepped up my game tenfold thanks brother
I’m fucking DEAD🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It’s ‘je ne sais quoi’ and its French my guy
@@JohnSmith-gp4kjI've reading it twice🤔 to get it😂...
Know what screw it ill just die alone
5x0=0 , 10x0 still equals 0..
I have a fantastic gf, but never on apps like tinder - that would just be silly. Lol
(I did install tinder a couple decades ago, and un-installed it the next day once I understood what it was all about)
Me : Tell the truth and be honest about my genuine intentions of a long term relationship, pictures of myself and information about my hobbies.
Also Me : Been on dating apps for 3 years after splitting up with my girlfriend 4 years ago and I've not had a match or conversation with a single woman on any dating app.
This video is absolutely useless. First part is that you need to build attraction and comfort which is obvious. Second part is an example, but I still don't know how to come up with what I write. This example doesn't teach me anything. It's like if you have a task to come up with a random prime number that is higher than 1000, if you give me an example of a prime number like that, I still don't know how to come up with a next prime number like that. Tell me the algorithm, not an example of a result.
Edit:
Sorry for the negative comment. I think it's just stuff that it is difficult to teach.
That’s cause you’re boring
@@c4thenerd171 I'm not boring
Sorry, this video is all right. I still agree with what I wrote in my critique, but I understand that the videos have to be a bit like that, 99% of videos on RUclips are worse, so your video is still good.
That is typical for any type of expert on youtube. You are given clues and hints for free. That is already pretty useful, but if you want to get everything laid out clearly with a lot of real life examples and even more tips, buy their course :) I fully understand it and I support such approach. We can't expect to be given knowledge entirely for free when that knowledge took a lot of time and effort to be acquired.
Todd can you please make a video how the woman change over the past 20 years in their behaviour, sexual freedom, moral etc
At first I was really doubtful of the video . But by the end I had so much confidence and really got the ball rolling again . Appreciate you bro 👊🏽
@Todd V Dating - can you please please please do a video explaining how to get a girl to your place first time from Instagram ideally or dating apps in general? Getting a girl to your place without a date is super convenient and helps with sex but it seems harder to do and makes girls defensive cause it can seem like you only want sex, what are your thoughts on this? Appreciate the content as always!
Bro, if you invite a girl to yours without taking her on a 1st date, it's obvious you just wana have sex. Girls aren't stupid, you might as well be open and honest in the first place.
So it worked so well that he has been a single player for 22 years! Are you Fing serious right now?!
Maybe he just sacrificed his relationships to stay single for a continuous mission of teaching us, so that we don't stay single, Todd the Jesus of Dating ;)
Last I saw he was dating a smokeshow and in an open relationship
I find this very complicated, and its for a specific case
This was great, thanks!
if you’ve been on a dating app for 20 years my friend, I don’t think you’re doing it right lol
for some its a choice, for him it's literally his job..
Pretty often it turns out that the woman you matched has 2 or 3 children and no job. If you don't clarify these thing before the date you just waste your time.
😂
The example is like ChatGPT flirting with ChatGPT.
Very insightful! Thank you.
Tinder was horrible. 99 percent of the women ads are fake.
Match is the worst site thiugh. I'm in Long Island NY. I paid for Match for 3 months hoping to find a girlfriend that could lead to something serious.
I only got 2 responses back. There's literally no single women on this site and a total waste of money.
Each of her messages I was like "how tf are you supposed to respond to that" and nothing I thought of was remotely close to his replies -_- I seriously find this more difficult than building robots, writing songs, and outdoor rock climbing. I can't believe how effortless it seems for some guys
It's super eayse, I'm a ugly guy and with just only few simple words I get about 1 date each day and those woman are perfect princesses and virgins
Sad part is you have to ask certain questions to find out if there scammers and it scares the normal ones away.
Welp! I'm dying alone! 😅
Good luck fellas!
How can someone be successful at dating and be single?
10 times more? Wow, amazing!Now i just need to figure out how much is 10 times more of 0.
Here I always thought what your favorite position was the question to ask.
The first scenarios never happened to me cause I’m not gonna text a woman for three weeks. That’s never gonna happen several messages you exchange numbers and now you’re in the real world couple of texts a phone call. Decide if you wanna meet simple as that if you’re both interested in each other, that’s it there’s no strategies just be yourself
I have the exact same experience with men! It's so disheartening. I have messaged about 125 guys, been asked out twice, and had many no responses if I ask to meet in person...
actually very solid video man,
Hmm, what do you guys recommend on profiles with no bio,(they're verified so they're real) 1 picture, and it's just them holding coffee smiling
Dude. Even if you go on a date with her. She still gonna talk to other guys and go on date with other guys! It's never your girl simply your turn! So don't fall into this trap to stay only for her and stop the game. Because she won't stop the game and you will end up played.
Pure gold!
I am not getting the messaging guide, I have already tried with 3 different emails and still not receiving it. Anyone has it?
My problem is I’m just simply not that witty. I would find it easier to say here’s 500 bucks blow me then to be this creative.
Thanks for the info brother.
Bro this is so difficult, why are all the girls hard to talk to