Midnight Coup is the best hand cannon they’ve ever made
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- Опубликовано: 4 июн 2024
- Midnight Coup can literally do it all. The question is, do you know what you want out of it?
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Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
0:58 - Feel and Handling
2:14 - PvE performance
3:28 - PvE Rolls
9:20 - vs Fatebringer
10:46 - PvP performance
12:30 - PvP rolls
17:49 - vs others in PvP
20:58 - Conclusion 
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Late night pinned comment - Mountaintop review unlikely this week, but 2 videos in 2 days has been a good test for this channel and for what you guys like to watch. Confident I can keep making more and getting better each upload. Please tell me your honest thoughts on this style and how I can improve. I got so much more to share with you all.
I'm loving this format, hearing you talk about the perks on camera with the background footage pairing with it is very enjoyable. keep up the great work 🫶🏻
The intro was incredible. Sorry I don't have much else to offer.
Doing great ! Keep it up !
Don’t overthink it. Your content is great. You are definitely a perfectionist which makes your content fantastic. With that mindset even when you try to be “quick” and just “put something out” it still feels well thought out and polished. It’s a blessing and a curse.
Loving this format and your weapon analysis! More please.
Just a reminder. You did not fall off.
Nah he did
@@kaiman3089 Nah, your envious
@StormA7 Nah, I'm not
Impossible for this guy
I am so glad you are back. Your videos are strangely enough a huge part of what makes me feel at home in this game. Im mostly a solo player, so I turn to the wonderful people here for the majority of my community, and you being here again feels like home.
the trick to attrition orbs is that it doesn't need to be the same target being hit so its effectively just constant free orbs while using your weapon.
really not that hard to make orbs in this day and age, no need to waste a perk on it
@@dankerbellidk man, multimach with attrition orbs/kinetic tremors kinda slaps
@@legolokicars5820ass perks
@@dankerbell you must exclusively play in low end pve activities
Kinetic siphon is right there
grinding out the vids lately, i love it
He’s back! So happy to see you consistently uploading again. Hope your break has been kind to you and a belated Eid Mubarak to you!
Belated Eid Mubarak to you too!
Great vid as always! Love to see your input and humor on these fancy new toys!
Great video nomad! Thank one thing to note during the comparison section towards the end. You forgot to give the austringer its enhanced perks and intrinsic. This ends up giving it another 12 stability with the perks you have selected and 2 more in handling and reload.
love the vid, very enlightening and entertaining, love this longer style of vid
Brave weapons are some of the best in the game because they don’t just have literally one god roll like every other weapon has that all actual have good perks in both columns giving a nice variety of choice for each one they need to do this more often
I thoroughly enjoyed this review Nomad, great seeing this and the pulse rifle review yesterday. Hope you're doing well since the move, sorry I've not been able to visit the strean
My personal favorite so far is firefly and kinetic tremors, firefly deals with the ads very well because of the ad density on onslaught, and then like you said with kinetic tremors you're ready to for tankier enemies as well, there's never an instance when you aren't going to be using at least one of the perks, and it feels amazing
I have that roll and i love it. Definitely my new favorite hand cannon
Just got that roll today and I already love it.
As said before, wonderful feeling roll!
That was very informative and entertaining to watch coming from a first time watcher. Subscribed for sure
Thank you for the vids ascendantnomad
The production of your videos ar just going upwards. Great job brother
Fantastic video. Excellent weapon review and comparison. Earned a sub
So happy to see you back mate.
Loving the style on the new videos!
Legit this and the pulse video are the best weapon reviews on RUclips for the brave arsenal, keep em coming mate.
Thank you so much. I’ve been a player for a while and I’m not very good, but your simple to understand explanation of weapons are great. Thank you and God bless you.
I adore fatebringer. And I worked my ass off to get my time lost with the choice of frenzy or Firefly.
So for me, I want midnight coup to do things fatebringer can't.
The best role I've kept so far is one for all /explosive payload, which is less to replace Fatebringer in more to try and replace my favorite gun in all of destiny, outlaw/rampage Duke 44 (Rex quandom rexque futurus)
Now I'm hunting that roll with a reload masterwork and magazine. It's so easy to proc one for all with explosive rounds and the damage is pretty nuts.
Love the format. I enjoy a no bullshit factual discussion. Keep it up.
I love watching your videos, please keep uploading!
Loving this new approach to your videos. Keep it up. 👍 😎
your videos are also pretty good! keep it up also!
@@Hirojack Thanks will do! 🙏
Nailed it - Great review
Your videos are so pleasant to watch
Picked up a Firefly/One-for-All roll yesterday and it is so good. Still on the lookout for my exact 5/5 but this will definitely be the main combo that I go with.
Really hoping to get a good roll soon. Thanks for the appointment, doc
Enjoy the wedding, Nomad!
Loving this style of vid.
Do the explosions from firefly count towards one for all?
I first got the coup in forsaken...but at the time i exclusively used a 120 Duke with kill Clip and rapid hit. I never understood why id use Coup over my Duke, until i started swapping to it for shorter range, more add heavy encounters.
You are right on the money - Midnight Coup is built different, and its absolutely a different playstyle then most other hand cannons.
It always feels laking in range, but you havw to lean into its short range strengths for PvE.
Just as beautiful if not more than the day we lost it.
I've really fallen in love with this hand cannon all over again. It's just magical.
Excellent review Nomad!
My favourite hand cannon followed by Rose. Thank you for mentioning FF+Rampage... this roll is incredible!
Something to consider in the future, enhanced zen moment will give an extra +5 stability when midnight coup is enhanceable so the stability will be a little better at base. Unsure if the enhanceable weapons will get the extra stats if they level to 20 like the adept raid weapons but regardless, midnight coup should be fine in the future.
Another video? Hell yeah!
A perfect video thanks!
The stat package is rough for PvP with that 40 range.
For PvE, I just wish kinetics had more synergy with our builds. So many of my Titan builds rely on things like Solar or Strand weapons to proc things.
But the gun feels so good to use. Feels like my other favorite adaptive- Dire Promise. Firefly + Desperate Measures has been nice.
Hopefully kinetics will see some love with Prismatic because they fill both bars at the same time. Might see people using kinetic primaries to help feed that mega buff more often with TFS
i think 40 base range is ok because what you really want is explosive/zen
What pvp have you been playing? It's an outlier. That range doesn't seem to matter. Thing is an abomination in Crucible.
@@Decoy303 To answer your question, absolutely none lol. I was talking about kinetic primaries in PvE needing some love compared to other options.
I have lots of adept HCs with 80+ range. As long as you hit 67-70 range on this gun, you’re fine because this gun simply feels so much easier to use. There is in reality a very small range difference between them and the nuts aim assist and amazing sight on this gun more than make up
I got the full bore max range roll... moving target + opening shot... f stability and I still love it, and it duels just fine imo
I got explosive payload, desperate measures with smallbore flared magwell and range mw. Using it on stasis hunter with renewal grasps and it allows an extremely aggressive play style and it’s amazing so far! Firefly be my second choice if the reload wasn’t so good already. I’ll keep a firefly one for all roll though as that’s very strong
personally i really love the longer vids!
attrition orbs is best on swords. If 1 player pops a well , the other a tether, and the other does the supercharged Thundercrash on a stationary boss, then all 3 players use attrition orbs swords… you will drop so many orbs that you’ll get your super back and possibly get another super before phase ends.
Even if you don’t get a super back, you’ll constantly get armor charges that will buff your weapon damage if you’re running surges.
Got myself a solid PvE roll last night - Smallbore / Tactical / Explosive / One for All / Reload MW. Feels really solid.
Does firefly proc one for all on the explosion? or is it bullet hits?
I love your videos, but i think i like the fact your one of the only content creators who said they want to step away a lil and actually did. I can tell your happier.
Love hearing the passion again!!! Awesome review, there’s just something so *right* about the combination of this gun’s animation, sound and ‘feel’. Cheers Nomad.
I finally took it into PVP yesterday. Explosive/Zen (Controller player) OMG I’m in Love! I forgot how good this gun felt but I feel like it’s even better in this sandbox. Ophidians pair so well with this gun.
Attrition orb to me is a sure way tk get an orb kf power in any activities, if you do 2 times a double kill, so 4 kills, you'll get 2 orbs, but with the perk you will probably get a 3rd one. On beefy target, you don't even need a kill. And thoses orbs on strand for woven mail or void for devour are very good. K love the perk and is a perk I search on alot of weapons
I'm glad that someone else talks about how hollow rose feels. Like Nomad, I also feel like rose doesn't have any weight to the point of having thoughts of the handcannon flying out of my hands 😂.
Note that Explosive Payload + One for All is a 50% damage boost just from shooting enemies. It's amazing
I just got a shiny firefly/kinetic tremors today! I’m excited to text it out!
W ass video and channel in general, you sir have gotten another subscriber 💪
I got a glower with firefly and attrition orbs (in the third column) and kinetic tremors and desperate measures (in the fourth column) and I and quite happy with it.
One for all with firefly is epic. That is THE PVE combo for this gun and nothing else comes close. Although, there are other good rolls, but you can keep one for all up pretty much at all times in onslaught with firefly without even trying.
Even in legend onslaught? I know people have made a case that tanker enemies in end game like gms that explosive payload will be easier to proc. I’ve watched several videos and I’m leaning towards firefly one for all but still trying to make up my mind on whether explosive payload and one for all is the jack of all trades for any difficulty or if firefly is
@@nightox3 - honestly haven’t compared them on legend truly apples to apples. My bias may be that I’m running a solar subclass and so firefly synergizes better.
I’m just relying on what I “feel” as keeping me safer or needing to put in less work. Truth be told, I’m. It typically running HC in content like this but I put my plentiful rolls through the paces when I got them and firefly seemed to work better.
@@cimirie01 I got a firefly frenzy roll today I’m excited to try
@@cimirie01 and yeah I get it I also run solar titan so I’m curious to see how well firefly works!
I managed to get a midnight coup with flared magwell and a reload masterwork bringing the reload stat from 56 to 81 which means I dont feel like I need any reload boost from firefly, outlaw, or a kinetic loader mod. great for people who want explosive payload or maybe attrition orbs on theirs
PEAKSCENDANG GOATMAD POSTING AGAIN, MY PAIN HAS BEEN CURED
midnight coup is worth it for that crispy clap clap clap fire sound
Kept Confidence is excellent. It's the most slept on HC in pvp. The models short size just makes it piss easy to land shots. Proc enhanced killing wind = battle continues on the next shot with 96-100 range, and even with full bore feels amazing.
I have extended appended zen explosive range master…. It feels great. I have lots of hc godrolls and I gotta say…. It’s perfect needs counter balance other than that great, but it needs a few more meters of range to compete with my others. I will go grind for a max range same perks and get back
I wil
I love how Kept Confidence made an appearance here because it has been my go to legendary HC when not using Thorn. It just feels right, simple as that
I finally got the KT and Firefly roll and I am in fucking love with this HC. It’s my favorite gun in the game , period
EDIT: and honestly if you’re fighting a yellow bar with ads around him it does amazing work. KT I’m pretty sure also staggers a bit as well which honestly makes this gun feel so fun and powerful. I rarely need to pull out my special during onslaught because of it
Im a Strand Titan main and let me just say the perk Desperate Measures plays beautifully with my builds. I use the 'Into the Fray' aspect and I cant remember the last time my melee was empty (Titans get 3 hits remember). Its so easy for me to keep Desperate Measures 3x proc'd consistently.
I wanted Explosive Payload + Rampage, but i defo don't mind my roll with Explosive Payload + Desperate Measures, yeah it's more work to get going, but once at 3x, it lasts quite a bit longer than Rampage, after playing with it for a bit, it is now my preffered roll.
Grinding for an explosve payload and kinetic tremor has been the bane of my grind. I have gotten so many Midnight coups, and not one has drop that roll for me. Furthermore, attunement (majority of the time) just like screw me in the ass and give me something else different.
“Mechanical feel” ah yes, that’s the word I was looking for.
Firefly + OFA, you know ball
That's mine, and OH BOY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Midnight with; range master work/smallbore/acurised rounds/enlightend acction/opening shot with opening on got a 36 meter range, with it off 33, every hit you land makes the gun better thansk to enlightend action, this badboy can match any gun even rose, could go for moving for more pasive help but man does this thing motter
Yea austringer and rose def clear it for pvp lol. Small bore, richochet, enhanced eos and opening shot you get 68 range and 80 stability on austringer plus that range bump on the first shot of opening shot and the handling bump on eye of the storm austringer kind of is a stat monster for a legendary hc not named palindrome or exalted truth. I love your take tho on it bringing personality and the feel
Aren’t we going to be able to enhance the perks later on so kinetic tremors might get way better when we can do that
Firefly / OfA has been my favorite PvE roll for sure! (And I have them all) 35% damage boost and 100 reload? No brainer
That ending Austringer coup rose comparison you forgot a MW with rose lol but yes coup is solid with hammer forged accurized and range mw it outranges hawkmoon and thorn which would be my 2 comparisons because what energy exotic are you really going to run competitively aside from cloud strike I know a small # run duality but meh rather chappy or conditional for an exotic shotty
I got a shiny with firefly/tremors and enlightened/desperate measures. My builds are usually either grenade or melee builds. I will definitely try desperate measures tomorrow
I love it in pvp, a range roll feels amazing it basically auto aimed.
I personally like firefly/kinetic tremors! Good all around for killing lots of enemies or for single target damage. But I’m definitely going for firefly/one for all as well.
18:40 just wanna point out rose was missing the range MW in your comparison while the other two handcannons had it on. Rose clears both weapons on range even without slideshot procced.
literally got a random drop yesterday that was firefly one for all. nice
My Roll would have to be Explosive Payload, Kinetic Tremors.
I do a ton of end game, and Explosive Payload on literally anything will make it punch alot harder, even Explosive head on a Bow for instance.
Kinetic Tremors cause when it procs, it deals like 30k Damage... So dealing with things like unstops? No problem...
I personally wouldn't build this into add clear, even for Grand Masters, as the majority of the time you'll be using an Exotic for that anyways.
EP and Desperate Measures easily. Using a one 2 punch build with a energy Shotty guess what’s procing while stowed after that powered melee kill? Maybe your using sun bracers? How does 30% damage after a nade kill OR melee kill sound? I love that desperate measures essentially gives your kinetic weapons some small level of synergy with your subclasses that energy weapons have in spades. Explosive payload is just too good to pass up IMO free damage and doubling the effective range while also allowing for easier easier use while airborne in several builds. Best roll hands down IMO
2:50 heads up btw, kinetic primaries are 10%, kinetic specials are the ones that get 15%. Point stands the same though!
I still got my original Midnight Coup in the Vault 😂
It’s the last remnant of the original game and the only survivor of sunset. Cleared everything else, but kept a single Midnight Coup. Not sure why, probably in a mad hope that maybe 1 day I could use it again. And just never brought myself to delete it. And now I can’t wait to whip it out again
Outlaw does grant a faster reload than firefly. It grants a x0.9 reload scalar on top of the stats benefit. Firefly only grants the stat benefit.
i agree with the title, i always wanted a good kinetic slot pve handcannon as i never got fate bringer
for me austringer is the best feeling hand cannon that's not Not Forgotten back in the day. For me. Austringer is the best pvp feeling.
explosive/zen might be the greatest dueling combo possible but i havent tried it
@@knayvik6482yeah I'd definitely be curious to see who's king of duels between that and eye of the storm + zen moment on Austringer. Austringer feels so good in 1v1s
Desperate meassure is really easy to proc in basically all content to at least x2 and don't see how you wouldn't get it to 30% in most cases if you just try. It doesn't have to be a grenade and powered melee, you can just walk up to 2 red bar and normal melee them and now you have 20% and then use the gun for the last proc for a refreshable 30% damage. Only content that it could be annoying to proc would be GMs, but honestly there I almost never use primary weapons
I'm unlocking them all. I want that Super Black shader!
for me it feels as good as my old timed payload/moving target better devils and that makes me feel happy
Got a midnight coup with fire fly frenzy and oh boy it slaps
Love the CammyCakes call-out 😂
Where did AN do that
@@manray173914:28
@@manray173914minutes 24seconds when he's talking about frenzy
Nomad just has that cool quiet friend vibe
I have a shiny with corkscrew/fluted
tactical mag/extended mag
Firefly/enlightened
Kinetic tremors/one for all
Handling MW
Why are 6 hits acceptable for Kinetic tremors but not for Attrition orbs? Where did the "If it takes 6 shots you should be using a special weapon" go? I think it's a fine, not great, but fine combo.
So, so good to have you back.
You forgot to put a range mw on the rose during your pvp comparison btw
My favorite fatebringer roll I have is Explosive Payload/Frenzy. Explosive is just so good - extra damage, aim assist, and fall off. Combined with more damage that’s essentially free? I will definitely be farming for at least 5 Midnight Coup’s just because of the double damage perks!
Osmosis Fatebringer with Firefly (or even Adrenaline Junkie or Frenzy) absolutely surpasses anything Midnight Coup has for buildcrafting.
What Coup has is the ability to use kinetic tremors/shoot to loot against big targets, opening up your special for wave frame GLs that don't have auto loading. Everything else Coup has is on Fatebringer.
I hate hand cannons (Minus Sunshot and that other solar legendary we got a couple seasons ago)... but I absolutely love Midnight Coup. It feels so good, doesn't take ten years to reload, great perks. My first two were Explosive Payload/Kinetic Tremors and Firefly/Kinetic Tremors
Please do a review of the blast furnace!!!! As a pluse rifle main I only trust you're opinion on pluse rifles
The feel of the weapon really does matter aye. I have multiple god rolls on autos, hand canons, pulses etc but man I just can't vibe with some of them. Its like you just can't get into the rythm. I have a crafted austringer and a slideshot explosive rose and I feel better using the austringer for some reason. Just got a moving target zen roll on midnight, excited to try it out
Fire
Explosive and 1 for all with arrowhead break has been butter smooth and cooks