Is the new OBSBOT Tiny 2 better than the Insta360 Link 4K PTZ webcam? 🤔

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  • Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024

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  • @DeployJeremy
    @DeployJeremy  Год назад +1

    What do you think about the OBSBOT Tiny 2 versus other compact PTZ webcams? 🤔

    • @nomad0714
      @nomad0714 Год назад

      @Jeremy Chapman, got it on preorder. Nice upgrade!
      Thanks for the comparison review!

    • @acumen1
      @acumen1 Год назад

      I THINK OBSBOT TINY 2 IS BETTER THAN INSTA360 LINK, THERE'S NEW FEATURES THAT ARE VERY INTERESTING ESPECIALLY BEAUTY SETTINGS

    • @nicholaseastman6915
      @nicholaseastman6915 Год назад +4

      It's impossible that you couldn't see that in comparison between videos from three webcams only in insta360 Link your face and hair are in focus. I can see single combed-over hairs. In videos from both obsbot webcams your face is softer, slightly off-focus and has yellowish hue, your hairs are glittering and flickering as if they shot with lower resolution cam. I'm not a big fan of overpriced niche products as Insta360 Link is, but let's be honest.

    • @APalmieri
      @APalmieri Год назад

      @@nicholaseastman6915 Yeah! Also in my opinion from these tests the Insta360 absolutely wins hands down😳

    • @JonathanWillis
      @JonathanWillis 6 месяцев назад

      @@nicholaseastman6915 That's what i see too, over lots of videos. The Insta360 always looks sharper, yet everyone says the Tiny 2 is better?

  • @JakobDam
    @JakobDam Год назад +6

    Thanks for a great and through video review; good balance between usability and technical aspects. As a photographer, I'll say that the Insta 360 Link's overall signal-to-noise ratio of the image is slightly better than the OBSBOT Tiny 2 PTZ, but it's a very minor detail, and the benefits of the OBSBOT Tiny 2 PTZ far outshines this difference.

    • @DeployJeremy
      @DeployJeremy  Год назад

      I realize I lost some resolution trying to match framing with each camera mounted right next to one another. The focus clarity is equal at 0% zoom. The OBSBOT Tiny 2 is factory tuned with more contrast and sharpness, which does impact SNR, but that can be equalized by moving those two values down 5-10%. I have a feeling that Insta360 has better image processing in the firmware for denoise and adjusting optics, just because their other action cameras do this quite well. It looks like well-processed flagship mobile phone camera footage a bit to me. The OBSBOT Tiny 2 does have a bigger sensor, so assuming hardware optics are relatively equal, it should have more dynamic range. You really see the difference compared to the original OBSBOT. Net-net is that image quality is very close. I wish I had also mentioned in hindsight that the Insta360 Link has a 3-axis gimbal, whereas the OBSBOT has 2-axis, so camera always needs to be on a level surface or bubble. The software from OBSBOT is more feature-rich, so it kind of makes up for the fewer axes. All that said, I still think the OBSBOT Tiny 2 has a slight edge, but it's close.

  • @4sightfilmsLLC
    @4sightfilmsLLC Год назад +4

    This is best comparison video on webcams, I’ve seen by far! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 Great job!

  • @Jasynn54321
    @Jasynn54321 Год назад +1

    Dude... just HOW are not drowning in 10's of thousands of subscribers?? Awesome... awesome webcam review videos with a tremendous amount work put into them. Great and useful details - you always dial them in... just really good stuff. Thanks for the quality work. Helping me big time on selecting my next webcam purchase.

    • @DeployJeremy
      @DeployJeremy  Год назад +1

      Thank you! Some day I'll get there 👍 Glad it's helping

  • @CollabMoore
    @CollabMoore Год назад +6

    This is an awesome deep look at each of these 3 options! I had the OBSBot v1 but returned it and have been thinking about the Insta360 Link. I think after tweaking the Insta360 looked maybe a little better than even the OBSBot v2 but it's very close. For me I think the Insta still wins just because I can install the software on Mac since it's a proper developer for macOS. The OBSBot software unfortunately can't be installed on my work device since it's an unidentified developer. 🙄
    Thanks so much for covering these little PTZ cameras! It's amazing how much tech is crammed into these things!

    • @DeployJeremy
      @DeployJeremy  Год назад +1

      Thanks John. I thought you had the Insta360 already for some reason. The OBSBOT movement, tracking and default color is better though. I think the digital zoom had a tiny bit more detail on the Insta360 Link, but that could have been my fault in matching framing or the differences in native FOV.

    • @amorebearry
      @amorebearry Год назад +3

      I also agree that the INSTA360 Link has some commendable aspects, but after thorough testing and comparisons, the OBSBOT webcam proves to be a strong contender. OBSBOT's robust software and remarkable tracking technology make it stand out. Don't let the software limitation deter you from choosing the OBSBOT webcam, as it offers unmatched performance and features.

    • @S4NSE
      @S4NSE 7 месяцев назад

      how is it very close? it's completely blurry

  • @kenzomontalban7418
    @kenzomontalban7418 Год назад +1

    I need to take a video of my clayart at my desk, but I'm thinking about which camera to buy. I think Obsbot's function will satisfy my needs. Thank you for the good review.

  • @xkomodotcom
    @xkomodotcom 4 месяца назад

    Thank you for the good content about this tool, this helps me a lot to understand which good tools to buy.

  • @davidjamesd.panget197
    @davidjamesd.panget197 Год назад

    Seems the sensor is actually helps a lot. like the image color and quality. Huge improvement

    • @DeployJeremy
      @DeployJeremy  Год назад

      The sensor size is key to the dynamic range. The image tuning out of the box is really good with this camera and now I've tested it with a few background colors and I think the other key is center metering versus full frame metering to auto adjust the image.

  • @timgrove3927
    @timgrove3927 Год назад +7

    Looking at the fidelity in your hair between the Tiny 2 and Insta360 Link shows a big win to the Insta360 in my opinion. Why does the hair in the Obsbot images seem to have poor anti aliasing or some sort of pixel scaling? This spoils the superior colour performance of the Obsbot.

    • @DeployJeremy
      @DeployJeremy  Год назад

      It has a wider FOV. I pushed in a bit to try and match the framing of all three cameras. Since I was capturing at 1080p, it wasn't noticeable at recording time, but I did see it in post.

    • @S4NSE
      @S4NSE 7 месяцев назад

      yea OBSBOT is completely blurry and looks like upscale

  • @Nurg1982
    @Nurg1982 Год назад +2

    In the end, no matter how much additional fluff they add to the product in terms of goodies, it's all about image quality. And with that regard, I think the Link has more details, less noise production, and better overall look. Especially when you look at your hair, the Link far outshines the Obsbot options.

    • @SheilaMendeza
      @SheilaMendeza Год назад

      When you actually experience it, both cameras have excellent picture quality, but because the Insta's connection isn't great, so... I'm using the Tiny2

    • @rangersmith4652
      @rangersmith4652 10 месяцев назад

      Image quality is subjective, and we have so many ways to adjust image that we can achieve our preferred look with any of these. Once we can achieve a satisfactory, even excellent image, user experience ultimately image quality.

    • @serrael-182
      @serrael-182 Месяц назад

      In other videos the insta has definitly more noise in dark enviroments. In the end I would buy the one thats atleast 50€ cheaper than the other. ;)

  • @angliski911
    @angliski911 Год назад

    Good luck with your channel. You are an awesome youtuber and I hope your channel grows fast! Thanx for the info.

    • @DeployJeremy
      @DeployJeremy  Год назад

      I appreciate that! Thanks for taking the time to comment

  • @pierrebessette2018
    @pierrebessette2018 Год назад +2

    thanks a lot. can we both benefit the autotraking tool and output in hdmi into an atem anks to the obsbot converter ?

    • @DeployJeremy
      @DeployJeremy  Год назад +1

      I would need to try this. You're saying if you use it without connection to a PC or Mac, but just connect to an Atem with a USB-to-HDMI will the PTZ tracking work without the software. I think it would at a basic level. It doesn't autolaunch the app on PC, so the onboard firmware in the camera appears to be independent from the PC. Again, I haven't tried it, but I suspect it would work.

  • @oaquique
    @oaquique Год назад

    Got the OBSBOT Tiny 2 pre-ordered and was curious about the comparison. Definitely, a good choice to upgrade from the OBSBOT Tiny 4K I'm currently using.

    • @DeployJeremy
      @DeployJeremy  Год назад +1

      I was kind of hoping it would be better than the Insta360, because its image was superior, but the tracking and hunting wasn't good. I did update all firmware just before filming this.

  • @JoshGlastra
    @JoshGlastra Год назад +1

    Great review! Purchased the tiny 2

    • @DeployJeremy
      @DeployJeremy  Год назад

      Thanks! I think you'll love it. It's a great device.

  • @nivea123
    @nivea123 Год назад +1

    great review!

  • @nicholaseastman6915
    @nicholaseastman6915 Год назад +1

    It's impossible that you couldn't see that in comparison between three webcams only in insta360 Link your face and hair are in focus. I can see single combed-over hairs. In videos from both obsbot webcams your face is softer, slightly off-focus and has yellowish hue, your hairs are flickering as if they shot with lower resolution cam.

    • @DeployJeremy
      @DeployJeremy  Год назад

      I digitally zoomed in a little to match framing. The OBSBOT has a wider field of view. Look at the individual wider shots. Focus is comparable for all three. In hindsight, I wouldn't have put the cameras next to each other on the same tripod, same depth.

  • @dannydelossantos3337
    @dannydelossantos3337 Год назад

    I love obsbot's smoth tracking. well insta also doing great job but I feel dizzy as the screen adjusts little by little.

  • @pierreroberge4927
    @pierreroberge4927 Год назад +1

    Good video, would have liked to see the video in 4K and each of the webcam 4K output also.

  • @stargazer17
    @stargazer17 Год назад

    Great video, thank you. I am coming from a Brio. I ordered the Nexigo N970P and I am not all that satisfied so I will be returning it. Do you think the Tiny 2 will do well in low light backgrounds?

    • @DeployJeremy
      @DeployJeremy  Год назад +1

      I tend to go by sensor size for low light performance. Would be curious if the N970p was a step up from the Brio 4K. I like the Brio again ever since the last firmware update and Logi Tune software controls for exposure and gain. The Tiny 2 has a much larger sensor compared to the Nexigo or the Brio at 1/1.5", so it should radically outperform the N970p 1/2.8" and Brio sensor size is unknown (but small). It actually should be close to the comparison of the original OBSBOT Tiny PTZ (also 1/2.8") and the Tiny 2 in terms of image quality. There is definitely a lot more dynamic range. You'll likely need to bring the contrast and sharpness down a little bit from auto/defaults with the Tiny 2 to reduce noise. It's a little on the sharp and contrasty side in its default tune.

    • @stargazer17
      @stargazer17 Год назад

      @@DeployJeremy Thanks for the reply and great info.

  • @thomaskovacs3502
    @thomaskovacs3502 Год назад +1

    Great video!!!!

  • @Murderball9
    @Murderball9 Год назад

    Great review. I have a specific use case in mind for this...Can this be used to take still photos with the software/app? If so, what is the image resolution/MP? Thanks

    • @DeployJeremy
      @DeployJeremy  Год назад +1

      Yes, I just hooked this up to check with the camera app in Windows 11. It's showing 8.3MP with standard 4K resolution. Insta360 Link (also just tested) shows the same.

    • @Murderball9
      @Murderball9 Год назад

      @@DeployJeremy Thanks so much for taking the time to answer my questions!

    • @DeployJeremy
      @DeployJeremy  Год назад +1

      @@Murderball9 no worries. It made me curious, because I don't usually check that. The sensors are technically capable of more megapixels, but they are consistent with their video outputs. I wonder now if there are webcams that declare higher still photo resolution to Windows than their video resolutions.

    • @Murderball9
      @Murderball9 Год назад

      @@DeployJeremy Agreed! I was hoping for at least 12 MP. Manufacturers specs, and reviews don't mention these things. With the astronomical cost of point and shoot cameras these days, I was hoping to use a PTZ webcam in a "budget" tethered photography setup. Thanks again. :)

  • @rwidenbar
    @rwidenbar Год назад

    Helpful video, thank you

    • @DeployJeremy
      @DeployJeremy  Год назад

      You're welcome! Thanks for taking the time to post.

  • @JasonActualization
    @JasonActualization Год назад

    If I sync the sound in the very beginning with a clap, footage from my Insta360 Link, and the .wav from my audio interface, both recorded in OBS, why after an hour of straight recording, is the video an entire second or more ahead of the sound (the lack of synchronization worsens the longer the recording)?

    • @DeployJeremy
      @DeployJeremy  Год назад

      I don't know. Normally the video is slower than the audio, because of the additional processing involved, larger writes to disk, etc.

  • @jesseowens4652
    @jesseowens4652 Год назад +2

    Nah man, when I put your video to 1080p60 the Insta360 is very clearly the clearest image. Your eyes are clear in that one but not the other two.

    • @DeployJeremy
      @DeployJeremy  Год назад

      It's digitally zoomed in a little to match the Insta360's narrower field of view. All three cameras are right next to each other.

  • @MontagnardsStandforJustice
    @MontagnardsStandforJustice Год назад

    Is it charging and working the same time while connecting to PC?

    • @DeployJeremy
      @DeployJeremy  Год назад

      This one doesn't have a battery. The OBSBOT Tail Air does and will charge while connected as a functional UVC webcam

  • @Martial-Mat
    @Martial-Mat 8 месяцев назад

    Is this still the camera you most recommend?

    • @DeployJeremy
      @DeployJeremy  8 месяцев назад

      I really like this camera and its settings out of the box, yes. There are other considerations though, like do you need a gimbal? Does the gimbal need 2 or 3 axes? The OBSBOT has a wider field of view than the Insta360 Link, which I like, but I had to digitally zoom it in a little to match framing. So you'll see comments saying the focus is better on the Insta360, but they are actually comparable. I still prefer this one if you do need a gimbal and 2 axes are sufficient.

    • @Martial-Mat
      @Martial-Mat 8 месяцев назад

      @@DeployJeremyThanks for your response Jeremy. Not sure what a gimbal is or why I would need one. I assume that this one rotates and tilts. What else could you need? And this automatically moves around doesn't it?

    • @DeployJeremy
      @DeployJeremy  8 месяцев назад

      @@Martial-Mat it's the mechanism in the camera that tracks your movement to keep you in frame. If you're not moving around much, it's usually an extra $100 that you can save compared to a fixed webcam. For fixed webcam, I like the Logitech BRIO 4K again - as long as you have the most up to date firmware and the OBSBOT Meet 4K. Both of these tend to be $130-150 these days. I'll be testing the Logitech BRIO Mx 4K soon also at $200. For under $100, the Razer Kiyo Pro is a good value.

    • @Martial-Mat
      @Martial-Mat 8 месяцев назад

      @@DeployJeremyOh, okay. I was mostly gonna use it for blog style tutorials, but I did contemplate making some martial arts tutorials. Can it be added later?

    • @DeployJeremy
      @DeployJeremy  8 месяцев назад

      @@Martial-Mat then you should start with a gimbal camera

  • @alexandersims1613
    @alexandersims1613 Год назад

    how difficult is obsbot to use with a multi-cam setup (into a blackmagic product) given that it has its own hardware?

    • @DeployJeremy
      @DeployJeremy  Год назад +1

      I'm actually going to test that a create a video on it next. They have a UVC to HDMI conversion box so you can run it into a Atem or Blackmagic multicam switch. I'm going to be interested in the image tune, autotracking and remote control in this environment. If everything works, it seems like a perfect solution even in high end productions for audience 'lipstick' camera or Overhead shots without a direct camera op.

    • @alexandersims1613
      @alexandersims1613 Год назад

      @@DeployJeremy for me I'm specifically looking for using this to do a multi cam sports stream using OBS and a black magic switcher for 8 inputs. Idk if that's more content for another video or you can add a segment for that.

    • @DeployJeremy
      @DeployJeremy  Год назад +1

      @@alexandersims1613 will try. I don't have the Black Magic switch (or Atem), so I'll need to simulate that with a capture card. It's the same more or less.

  • @alexfaylona4007
    @alexfaylona4007 7 месяцев назад

    So obsbot tiny2 does not have portrait mode?

    • @DeployJeremy
      @DeployJeremy  7 месяцев назад

      Yes, but you have to mount the camera 90 degrees sideways. The gimbal has 2 axes unlike the Insta360 Link with 3 axes.

  • @faisalee
    @faisalee Год назад +2

    Insta360 is clearly better with sharpness, your hair is much more defined and cleaner on it :)

    • @DeployJeremy
      @DeployJeremy  Год назад +1

      Not technically. I'm pushed in with digital zoom on the OBSBOTs to match framing, because they were all mounted next to each other. They were the same at zero zoom, because the OBSBOT has a wider field of view, my head was about 1/2-2/3 the height compared to the Insta360.

    • @faisalee
      @faisalee Год назад

      Oooh I get it now@@DeployJeremy Thanks for clarifying this... I have been deciding between the two for zoom, webex and teams calls. I guess both are good options

    • @DeployJeremy
      @DeployJeremy  Год назад

      For me boils down to three things and one I mistakenly left out of the video. 1. Default colors of the obsbot are more pleasing to my eye (this is all depending on your lighting and background), 2. The motion tracking and autofocus to me seems smoother and less jittery, 3. Insta360 Link has a 3-axis gimbal, so it's superior and can rotate on leveling and 90 degrees for vertical video

  • @S4NSE
    @S4NSE 7 месяцев назад

    the OBSBOT doesn't seem crisp at all considering it's meant to be 4k, tbh it looks like some weird kind of AI upscaling

  • @pyleoutnumbered8815
    @pyleoutnumbered8815 Год назад

    Missed OP to come onto the scene at a lower pricepoint and then dominate..

    • @DeployJeremy
      @DeployJeremy  Год назад

      True. Those are tough decisions because you want to make a price statement that you feel better than the incumbent best 4k gimbal camera, but still stay within reach for buyers in that market. And beyond component and manufacturing costs, there are a ton of sunk R&D costs to recuperate for the hardware and software development. So it's not so easy to sell at a loss and hope volume gets you faster to profitability.

  • @dimitrimoonlight
    @dimitrimoonlight Год назад

    insta360 flow

  • @cue108
    @cue108 Год назад +4

    Is it just me recognizing that the Insta360 simply produced the sharpest face? Look at the eyes and it should be very obvious...

  • @timchambers5242
    @timchambers5242 Год назад

    OBSBOT Tiny 2 default is applying too much contrast/sharpening so it looses some of the natural look & detail.

    • @DeployJeremy
      @DeployJeremy  Год назад

      Fair observation. The Insta looks a bit more raw to begin with, but I tend to like the more contrast/sharp look, but that's subjective. I did need to zoom in a little for matching framing on the Tiny 2, so that digital zoom lost a little detail compared to the narrower FOV from the Insta360.

  • @revd5620
    @revd5620 Год назад +1

    The OSBOT is terrible. If you do Zoom interviews - the resulting video and audio on the Zoom interviewer's end is WORSE than the native Facetime HD video and audio. I just sent the OSBOT back.

    • @DeployJeremy
      @DeployJeremy  Год назад

      The iPhone camera is great, too. It's a little different comparison, because if you're using mobile app versus desktop, the clients for Zoom and Teams will often kick your resolution down to 1080p or even 720p for performance and bandwidth optimization.

  • @deemster1670
    @deemster1670 Год назад +2

    am i blind or something ?! both obsbot cameras look like shet and the insta360 link is crystal clear with full range of colors and amazing details and you still recommend obsbot wtf, on the insta i can see every single hair on your eyebrows and the bots are blurry mess

    • @DeployJeremy
      @DeployJeremy  Год назад +1

      It's digitally zoomed in a little to match the frame. The OBSBOT has a wider field of view and they were side by side, so had to push in a little

    • @deemster1670
      @deemster1670 Год назад

      @@DeployJeremy 6:18 don't you agree the difference is night and day, damn insta even challenges your main camera :D good video tho i wasnt sure which one to get now i know, definitely not the bot.

    • @DeployJeremy
      @DeployJeremy  Год назад +1

      @@deemster1670 that's exactly where I had to use digital zoom. Both are good cameras. Even the Logitech BRIO 4K has a tack sharp image if you don't need PTZ and want to save money. The Tiny 2 had a better image out of the box for me (without tuning), color was more balanced, movement smoother, and more software capabilities. Insta360 does have a third axis for its gimbal, image can be tuned, and narrower FOV might be your preference. But no, it doesn't come close to my Sony main camera.

  • @JonathanWillis
    @JonathanWillis 6 месяцев назад

    I watched a lot of these comparison videos, and almost all of them say the Tiny 2 looks better, yet in every video the Insta360 Link clearly looks sharper, just by looking at the detail in the hair. i.e. - ruclips.net/video/GxcJ2P1lrXE/видео.htmlsi=V1omEXZSsfbbdQ8V&t=420

    • @DeployJeremy
      @DeployJeremy  6 месяцев назад +1

      I zoomed in a little on the OBSBOT digitally, to match frames. If you only care about the image sharpness and everything else about the camera is secondary - like color balance, image composition, gimbal tracking, focus hunting, software controls etc. then it's a good camera. It also has a third axis on the gimbal and it's smaller. The focus hunting improved with the latest firmware update. The OBSBOT Tiny 2 to me still looks better out of the box and I digitally zoomed in because it has a wider field of view, so any minute difference you're seeing in hair or eye detail is likely that.

    • @JonathanWillis
      @JonathanWillis 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​​@@DeployJeremy thanks for the quick response. I agree about the other aspects of image quality especially on colour as shown on your black shirt. The insta360 auto focus and minimum focusing distance is excellent. Glad to hear obsbot have improved it since release. Whilst I knew the FOV was different I hadn't considered anyone had digitally zoomed in which was giving the insta360 link that "optical" zoom advantage. That's probably what I needed to hear to sway me towards the Tiny 2.
      The extra axis on insta360 is useful as they built in the software to level your image. I knew my image was off and assumed it was my monitor arm but it turns out my one desk leg was set 2cmm shorter...
      I had looked into the Obsbot tail air, whilst it's more expensive, it appears to mostly be about more features rather than better quality. Which is no bad thing, but no point in paying for features you won't use.
      I had also looked into a6000/Zv-e10, costs aside as I have lenses for Sony A7R4, the extra complexity to set it up likely isn't worth it if you aren't using the camera outside the office. Webcams are convenient.

  • @e2U
    @e2U Год назад

    Ihave you on my ear piece, and at full volume, and it's a little low. Would you please set your audio a little higher, about 35%? Thank you, Jeff

    • @DeployJeremy
      @DeployJeremy  Год назад +1

      Thanks for the flag. I used a light compressor and set audio up nearly 3 dB across the timeline on my latest one. Let me know if this is within the range: ruclips.net/video/KiA0c8kqCPA/видео.html