Assassin's Creed Rogue - Shay Betrays the Assassins
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Assassin's Creed Rogue is an action-adventure video game developed by Ubisoft Sofia and published by Ubisoft.
It is the seventh major installment in the Assassin's Creed series, and is set between 2013's Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag and 2012's Assassin's Creed III with its final mission being the prologue to 2014's Assassin's Creed Unity.
The plot is set in a fictional history of real-world events and follows the centuries-old struggle between the Assassins, who fight for peace with free will, and the Templars, who desire peace through control.
The story is set in the mid-18th century during the Seven Years' War, and follows Shay Patrick Cormac, an Assassin-turned-Templar who hunts down former members of his Brotherhood after being betrayed by them. 
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Technically speaking, even "betraying" them, he was the most loyal to the creed
Exactly thank you
and then he joins the opposite of the creed
@@catalyst9905 they didn't know while ezio and connor knew some of their moves would cause collateral damage but everyone sees them as the best of the creed
Loyal but they didn’t value him
@@Cainesugarsreplaying the remastered version I fully understand how fucked up the colonial brotherhood was my friend told me at the time but I had no knowledge of the lore or anything ac now I understand why shay defected they left him with no choice he made the right call the funny thing is ah Tabi who we met in black flag trained and mentored Achilles I think ah Tabi would be disappointed and wouldn't claim the colonial brotherhood or Achilles
12:33
"You made me SLAUGHTER INNOCENTS"
That pain in his voice tho 😭😭😭
I Don't expect The Brotherhood to understand Shay's Point of view Because they weren't There
@@jalenikezeue4114
Plus Achilles sent him by himself they didn’t bother to send another assassin to accompany him to see how the mission goes
@@Cainesugars do you believe The colonial Brotherhood were The worst assassin's
@@jalenikezeue4114 Answer is yes
@@Cainesugars one last question Do you think ah tabai would of sided along with Shay
Altair and Ezio would’ve sided with Shay. They would’ve been disgusted with the way the colonial assassins were operating. I’m sure Edward would’ve agreed too
You have right Edward would'be agreed too and if he saw that Adewale is on the side of Achilles, his heart would break and not only Altaïr Ezio and Edward would be on Shay's side but Bayek would definitely be on his side
In other words shay didn’t betray the creed the creed betrayed him
@@Cody-ps3wy Its like modern day religion. Some of religious leader justify there wrong doing using religion. Shay respect it but he doesnt respect the people managing the creed.
@@My_Dark.He was never on Achilles side he was actually the only true assassin in that timeline
@@ShUrIkEn2558 helped him look for those cursed temples that caused people to die and this is supposed to be a real Assassin, by helping Achilles he broke the most important rules of the brotherhood
Shay didn’t betray anyone. They betrayed him
Exactly
it was a massive misunderstanding
@@nameynamename3758 yes it was. The assassin’s didn’t listen to him at all when he tried to tell them to stop
@@darthnater9731 it's hard to listen to someone when they're yelling in your face. it's understandable he's upset but he could've given it time and fully explained better
@@nameynamename3758 they wouldn’t listen. Sorry but the assassins are wrong in this game. Period. Don’t side with them just because you like them better
I remember when Connor told Achilles that " not with the men like you left in charge" now I truely get it why.
If Connor would see what Achilles did in the past or even met the past version of Achilles (one from Rogue), he would disgusted himself, seeing that old man was no better than Charles Lee and Templars (not to mention that would finally agree with the Templars and his father Haytham).
@@slasher19necroslayer42at least in the end he reconized his mistakes and trained Connor for being am best mentor to the brotherhood.
And Haytham wanting to kill him...
This type of man is rare in this world.....wont fall in any peer pressure...shay patric cormac....was able to think and take decision logically
He would fall to frivolous peer pressure but not the kind that can cost lives
I can see where this is going.
1. Stay your blade from the flesh of the innocent: The Colonial Assassins had inadverently murdered people by toppling Seismic Temples, which were meant to keep the earth stabilized, causing two major earthquakes that hit Portugal and Haiti, the likes never seen before.
2. Hide from plain sight: The Colonial Assassins recruited criminal gangs to extort civilians, inadvertently exposing themselves from plain sight.
3. Never Compromise the Brotherhood: The Creed the Colonial Assassins believed in is severely compromised by Achilles' megalomania and disregard for the tenets the Assassins stand for.
Bayek, Altair, Ezio and Arno would be more than disgusted at seeing their Colonial counterparts come to this. It's a complete 360 degree turn from what the Assassins are originally are.
I think Edward Kenway would’ve been pissed at Achilles too
@@darthnater9731
“So let me get this straight, your refusal to listen to Shay and stay the hell away from the precursor artifacts triggered horrific earthquakes AND led to the Colonial Assassins being decimated?!”
“…”
“… I am about 5 seconds away from throwing you overboard, Achilles.”
@@audrionirks8881and he would be heartbroken to see Adewale on the murderer's side
@@audrionirks8881 yeah but still
You mean 180 degree. 360 would mean they had not changed
They did a really good job of making the assassins look like the villains in this game.
Not really, the game actually makes Shay look like an idiotic manchild with temper tantrum.
@@Bmhtsos18 you must’ve played a different game. Because Shay pretty much had no choice but to leave the brotherhood. He tried to tell them to stop looking for these precursor sites and why they are dangerous and they wouldn’t even listen to him. Plus the colonial brotherhood broke the rules of the creed. The game really blurs the line and shows that not all the assassins are good people and not all Templars are bad. Maybe pay attention next time
@@darthnater9731 He tried to tell them? Right after Shay returned from Lisbon he just stormed in the Brotherhood's hideout yelling and threatening instead of simply explaining what happened! It's Achilles who tried to reason with Shay but couldn't because Shay was a self-righteous manchild. No wonder Rogue is one of the worst Assassin's Creed games in the series, it's story sucks!
@@Bmhtsos18 no. He tried to explain what happened and they dismissed everything he had to say. Yeah you are wrong. Achilles even admitted later on in the game that Shay was right. So yeah
@@darthnater9731 Shay didn't even try to explain, he just burst in there being all self-righteous and furious. How was Achilles supposed to know what was going on when Shay was busy yelling instead of explaining?
This game really highlights the importance of communication
Even worse after the earthquake, Lisbon was immediately hit by a Tsunami 🌊
Overkill.
Imagine surviving a horrific earthquake just to get hit by a tsunami the next day
@@tacticalcow9008 it wasn't the next day, people fled to the coast to try to get away from the falling buildings and fire thinking they would be safe, but it wasn't a very smart idea
When Assasins creed was Assasins creed.
Still isss
Except the RPG ones.......they took U turn with mirage
Yeah, cause an Assassin's Creed game with a Templar protagonist is definitely Assassin's Creed 🤣🤣
Yeah it would be fun to play as a templar again
@@Bmhtsos18 Bro hates rogue and shay a little too much 💀💀
I find it funny when Achilles shouted to Shay that he won't let him destroy everything they built. Achilles himself, unknowingly, had already corrupted everything they stood for and destroyed everything the Brotherhood had created.
Shay didn't betray the assassins they betrayed him
Shay never betrayed the Assassins. The Assassins betrayed him
The one time I was rooting for a Templar, That is Shay Cormac.
And Haytham. The colonial templars were somehow the good guys compared to the Assassins (Until Connor arrived, of course)
Seeing connors outfit on Achilles is a tear in my eye knowing that purge of the American assassins is just right around the corner i knew it was gonna happen. It just sucks i had to kill them all
Bruh. We play as the colonial purge
Nah, Connor had Edwards Robes
@okipullup.98
Yeah. Belief some brotherhood passed it to the colonies, and someone modified it in some way.
If Achilles listened to Shay, none of this would’ve happened. If Shay explained what happened, none of this would’ve happened.
Valid points
He did explain. They just didn't believe him.
They didn’t give Shay a chance.
Maybe because they don’t trust him that much they don’t value him that much they don’t respect him that much and what did it cost them?
@@BruceWayne-fj9bmwould you give a screaming madman a chance? He literally showed up angry and screaming.
Shay didn't betray the Assassins, they betrayed themselves. Shay just had the better moral compass. Such and underexplored and underappreciated protagonist in the AC series
Shay was a hero
Correct. He just wanted to save the world
12:10 The turning point.....
Atleast Shay cares for those people and not enjoy it.
Some of you in here completely missed the point of the game and still think the assassins are always the good guys. Not true. And this game shows us a different perspective
Assassins aren’t the good guys. Mackendal, Achilles, Al Mulam and hell even Altair to an extent. Assassins who strayed from the good and honest creed that came before them. No wonder Haytham, Baptiste, Shay and others like Duncan Walpole, Lucy Stillman and Daniel Cross came to the Templars. They saw what happened to the so called “good guys” in the Assassins and saw the truth. May the Father of Understanding guide us all.
@@leonturner2598Father of understanding also supports the loss of innocent life and destruction of human freedom
Title should be : Assassin's Creed - Rogue Shay left the Trash hood
Shay didn't betray the creed.. creed betray him
by stopping them alone yes
But by joining in the templers creed
He betrayed them
The colonial assassins betrayed shay
Yes the Colonial assassins made a mistake but pretty much all assassin brotherhoods throughout history would have acted the same way.
Criticism of the assassins in Rogue can also be seen in other games where they are not criticised.
The assassins create a gang in Syndicate, Edward had the Assassins logo on his pirate flag, Ezio is responsible for all the death of innocents in cappadocia in Revelations all to kill 1 fat old man who he could have easily killed in a different way and of course just about every assassin kills Templars wether they are good or bad just because they are a Templar as seen by Connor in AC3, Pierre Bellec in Unity…..
That’s what I thought. I can understand why they want some Templars dead like those Borgia scum (They didn’t follow the Templar ideologies and virtues, they only crave power for their family), but other Templar like Shay, Haytham, Monroe, real live John Pitcairn, Otso Berg (He did some good things)
I have just done this memory for AC Rogue - and one thing strikes me. Shay just lashed out in anger and guilt at Achilles. He formed his own viewpoint to fit what was happening and wouldn't listen to any discussion - he set his mind on a path and let nobody distract him. It'll be interesting to see how the rest of the story unfolds, but at least what I know so far, I can't see how Shay thinks he's doing the right thing or that Achilles is mad with power.
He did try to tell Achilles tho, Achilles was also extremely stubborn and just kicked him out, even his friends didn't listen to him, the only course of action was to destroy the manuscript so that they couldn't find anymore precursor sites, and who wouldn't be riddled with guilt, he literally destroyed an entire city of thousands just by touching the piece of Eden, no one would be thinking straight after that, and shay tried to tell Achilles the second time as well in a much more calmer way, when they met while he took the manuscript, Achilles still didn't listen and engaged in combat first, even when they were on the cliff, they didn't listen and shot him
Achillles is full of it tbh.
No, Achilles just didn’t listen. He sent shay on a mission that he knew would end in tragedy after what happened in Haiti just to grab at power before the templars could. Even when he’s arguing with shay he dismisses him and says ‘it was a delicate operation maybe you-‘ trying to place all the blame upon him, saying he’s responsible for the Lisbon being destroyed because he wasn’t careful enough.
@@jakef2365 They are both at fault. The Earthquake was going to happen anyways. If the story was flipped and the Templars grabbed the piece of eden first then the Assassins would be all "justice for lisbon" and whatever. What matters is what you do with your power. People die every day. The best the Assassins' could've done was prevent the Templars from taking these pieces that would causes insane natural destruction, but that would open up these cities to become battlegrounds on the surface and in the shadows.
@@nnoir maybe. Haytham is a smart fellow though. He wouldn't have reacted like achilles. Actually i suspect he might've gone to retrieve the piece of eden himself and seen firsthand what it did. The truth is that once confronted with the theory that meddling with the pieces of eden caused an earthquake, achilles was in denial and got defensive whereas haytham let go of the chase for other precursor pieces immediately and listened to shay.
18:25 the music.. Shay expressions, his broken voice.. is beautiful, tragic and perfect.
Altair, Ezio, Edward,Conner and the MC from Unity: so you have chosen DEATH
Arno
His name is Arno
@@darthnater9731 his name could be ass fart tity mouth
Altair and ezio would’ve sided with Shay. What the assassins were doing in this game is wrong they broke the rules of the creed and were willing to let thousands die all so that they could get the precursor artifacts before the Templars.
@@darthnater9731 playing the game for myself honestly Shay was in the wrong and didn't really tell Achilles what exactly happened he lashed out at him yeah the Assassins fucked up with the precursor boxes but it was a fuck up that Shay could've easily stopped by using his words instead of being an arrogant, hypocritical, self righteous asshole. Honestly shame on Ubisoft for guilt triping players by making the Colonial Assassin's fucking up be the excuse to say Assassin's are not good either. Especially when you pay close attention to ALL of the templar actions throughout all the games including Haytham's templars who were again also wrong.
Shay didn't do an indiana jones switch a roo.
All Achilles care about was power and nothing else he's a monster all the way
I don't think you even know achille had no clue about it
@@iancruz6617 he knew he just didn't believe shay because shay instead talking to him he went straight to the mansion and tried to steal the book
Shay was in the right because Achilles never wanted to listen to no one but himself
@@stavalamo6643 Shay was trying to tell Achilles but they just brushed him off so he had no choice but to stop them from finding more precursor sites.
And as Achilles said to Connor years later, he failed the Brotherhood.
Achilles was a good assassin a better person, but was a bad leader. If you played AC3 he never orders, only helps Connor in his misions and lends his experience when needed. I thing that the triumphs and victories before AC Rogue made him too confident. And Achilles didn't belive Shay because he considered him inmature, arrogant and in shock for the tragedy of Lisboa. If you replay the scene in the cliff Achilles didn't order to anyone to shoot Shay. And in the end, when Achilles discovers the truth, gives the reason a Shay immediately.
I’d be curious what’ll happen if Liam was there with Shay
Impossible. Liam was the second in comand of the Order. Achilles need him right by his side. He sended Shay because had the potencial to be one of the best but in that time wasn't a important piece in the Order. And only him because of discretion and to cut losses in case of the defeat. Think that the Templar and the portugeses weren't the only dangers. The travels between the New World and the Old weren't the same that those of now. Fail because bad weather sunk the ship was a true possibility.
@@user-kf2oy8xb7sbut when shay took the book
and get to the dead end acheilies said he will give him a chance
Instead of icing him
But shay refused
to give them the book
@@GardG4m3r Achilles didn't belived Shay or wanted to give him a change. You must understand until that moment Achilles was in a winning streak and Shay was the black sheep in the Order. In the mind of Achilles Shay was wrong, for that reason he fought him in his room instead deescalate the situation with a conversation.
The moment that Shay stole the book was as good as dead. Because he wouldn't give it back and the Order would do anything to get it back. For that reason Shay was shoot, even without Achilles giving the order, all knew how important was the book for Achilles and the Order and Shay was someone that crossed the line to many times.
Shay was a good men
Beginning: I will never forgive you destroying so many innocent lives even though you had no idea of what would happen and this very game retcons the capabilities of the Pieces of Eden.
End: I’m going to start the French Revolution knowing full well that there will be massive casualties.
A moment of silence for the lives lost in the Portugal earthquake
The fking title says shay's betrayal wth heck, he never betrayed those monsters he chose the right path
@@Elemental11263 they really did a good job making the assassins seem like the bad guys and the templars the good guys in rogue
@@itookashittoday1146 Because that was the case, in truth there are no good guys or bad guys as haytham said there was a time when the assassins pursued a far more nobler goal, but the colonial brotherhood was corrupted
@@vinaykrishnan4729 yeah I had my doubts the moment they all defended Achilles when Shay blasted him about the earthquake. Like how tf would you morons know you weren’t there
The assassins are not the best people in this game
But that doesn’t make shay any better If I was at his place I would’ve talked some since into the assassins instead of betraying them
@DJ Ahmed Elshamy He didn't betray them. All he did was steal a book and tried to get rid of it the same way ezio got rid of the apple. The Assassins literally tried to kill him as he tried to escape.
Imagine Ah Tabai reaction when he sees what Achilles has done to the colonial brotherhood
Achilles out here throwing shay around like he’s nothing
why is nobody talking about how crisp achilles’s hairline is
Arno Victor Dorian was a Good Assassin once again after Connor and Shay , before he turned into a Assassin-in between-Templar , unlike his fellow brotherhood even his mentor Achilies
"Stay your blade from the flesh of the innocent."
Achilles: Earthquake time
I think every assassin would’ve done the same. they’ve all been in similar situations and did the right thing.
shay didn’t betray the brotherhood…the brotherhood betrayed him.
No, Achilles and his brotherhood betrayed Shay by trying to kill him.
Why why couldn't we have gotten something similar to this over in Star Wars?
Imagine if Anakin had left the Jedi Order for similar reason. Imagine how much more tragic that would have been.
why would you want to ruin star wars what a terrible idea it was already super tragic how Anakin fell to the dark side because he wanted to save his loved ones and that was perfect the way it is
@@logwundawg1970 Chill bruh, it was just a thought
He didn’t betray them The Assassins betrayed him
What kind of alien tech would cause an earthquake in Lisbon Portugal in 1755?
A broken hero becomes a renowned villain
He became an anti hero.
The creed betrayed him…
More like the brotherhood betrayed Shay
I think it's not just that Altaïr and Ezio would be disgusted by how American "Assassins" are operating,but they would have SIDED with Shay,mayne not Colonial Templars,but with Shay, that's for sure
I always thought Connor just had a bad temper, but now I understand why he was always so mad with Achilles.
Eh, I think you could argue the Assassins betrayed him.
The thing I like about Shay is he wasn't a one dimensional mustache twirling villain. He defected to the Templars because he genuinely thought it was the right thing to do. It broke his heart to have to go against his former allies and friends, and in the end he even persuaded Haytham to spare Achilles. As someone who still mainly sides with the Assassins, this game did a damn good job of making me sympathize with and understand the motivations of a Templar.
Would've thought adèwale would've tracked down shay and talked to him, find out his reasoning for stealing the manuscript
Shay didn't betray them. The colonial assassin's betrays them and what's pisses me off is that they act Shay betrays the brotherhood and acts like he is the villain and won't listen to him.
In real history, was there really a major earthquake in Haiti in this year?
Yes. And the Lisbon earthquake was real too. They obviously tweaked a few details of it for the story in the game
14:23 that's the weapon and outfit room in assassin's creed 3 you tried to open
Not betraying actually, matter of fact, the assassins betrayed him, he was shot in the back kinda sounds like betrayal huh?
Hard to believe that Ezio and Achilles are alike in many way. Both became assassin's at young ages, both lost their family to the templars and both sought revenge but Ezio didn't kill the man who was (completely) responsible, Rodrigo Borgia but in the sequel it wasnt rodrigo who went back and attacked Ezio's home but his son out of Ego and unlike ezio, Achilles would murder the innocent if it ment killing as many templars as he could...
Its so weird that we all once used to think that these graphics were amazing.
And how exactly is what Shay did, betrayal? They didn’t even treat him like a human, but an object.
Shay did not betray the assassins he taught them that they were not always right by showing them What was right the assassins grew arrogant shay shattered there arrogant at the end they ended maturely and Creed became better
Basically the whole plot could have been avoided if Shay and the rest of the Assassins had better communication skills.
16:00 spoken like a true templar, this is what i like about AC Creed, both sides are wrong, thinking they get to decide whats best for the world, Fredoom turning into Anarchy, control turning into Slavery... both wrong...
The assassin’s and Templars remind me a lot of the democrat and republican parties. I think they might have taken inspiration there
As much as I liked this game. I think they should have made the assassins less evil and more just about how Shay saw both sides and decided to defect for his own personal grievances
Assassins betrayed shay
Nah the assassins betrayed Shay
Wow
Actually the creed betrayed Shay
Templar’s were always right
When hope slams the door i said i will kill you you defenter of the villians and i will also kill you Liam and then i killed them in the game and i was so sad
The fact is on this game rogue they were not the assassins they were templar with clothes that has hat and they call themeselves assassin 😂
they betrayed him and the creed
Templars !!!!!!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
0:48 look achilles even warned shay before his departure, its shay's fault for all those people's death he was just feeling guilty.
He told him to get the piece of Eden, and as you can see at 7:50, he was being as gentle as he can.
@@spiderpool034that's why you couldn't blame Achilles or shay in this, shay should've talked about this with his mentor instead he blames,yells and also steals from his brothers, he is just a reckless man, imo.
@@aswinraj_ar I mean, if I accidentally caused the death of a entire city. I would be pretty pissed also
@@spiderpool034 ya you would but not on your teacher on yourself.
@@aswinraj_ar In the game Shay says “What happened in Haiti, happened in Portugal” so I’m guessing Achilles knew about that but refused to elaborate
How can god do this to them??😳
God had nothing to do with this!
It’s a bit silly to blame God for natural disasters. Earthquakes are part of nature as horrible as they are.
Connor would kill him easily
The writing is awful
Shay accuses archilies instantly instead of trying to ask did he know what would happen
By the end archliez even says "shay was right" so why go there in the first place when templars already have shay who warned what would happen meaning boths wont touch precursor sites
How could assassins possibly think they r the good guys
Thats just Ubisoft writers for you lmfao
They are not even assassin's 🤣 they are like templars but with higher level 🤣
Shay just burst in the room yelling at Achilles and stomping his foot like a manchild and jumped into the conclusion that the Assassins knew what would happen without allowing Achilles to explain himself and yet some people here say that the Assassins are the ones who betrayed Shay. Not to mention that Achilles told Shay to be careful with the artifact yet Shay, upon finding the artifact, just picks it up without even considering that there might be trap in there. And yet Shay Cormac here blames the Assassins for his own stupidity and immaturity and joins the Templars, who actually are what Shay thinks of the Assassins. Our hero everyone!
And yet achilles in his infinite wisdom didn't think that the Earthquakes weren't related at all. And even after this event he continued to look for more. He even tried to attack shay who was just trying to get rid of the manuscript in a similar way that Ezio tried to get rid of the apple as they both knew that no one, not even the assassins should possess it. Achilles also broke the tenets of the creed which led to the failure of his corrupt brotherhood. Shay was more an assassin than the colonial brotherhood was, even after his conversion to the Templar ideology.
@@ace9924 Of course Achilles connected the earthquakes with the Precursor items and he did tell Shay to be careful with the artifact. It's not Achilles' fault that Shay didn't consider that there might be a trap in the room where he found the artifact. Shay was rash, reckless and self-righteous. He was so busy blaming the Assassins while being so full of himself. Shay becoming a Templar also makes zero sense, the Templars are exactly what Shay thinks of the Assassins so the logical thing to do would be either going neutral or overthrowing Achilles and getting control of the Colonial Brotherhood to clean it of corruption. Shay reaffirmed his loyalty to the Templats even after he found out what they truly are. And not to mention the murder of Arno Dorian's father right in front of the poor kid. Shay proved himself to be far more corrupt than the entire Colonial Brotherhood.
@Δημήτρης Μπάρδας there was no way of being careful with them and it wasn't an apple and even achillies didn't bother to inspect it and use it properly because he didnt know how to. He didn't make the connection because he didnt want to. He was hungry for precursor artifacts whereas shay didn't want anything to do with them.
@@ace9924 Yes there was a way to be careful, inspect the whole room for possible traps and report back for help. Achilles did make some connection between the artifact and the earthquakes which is why he told Shay to be careful with it. I don't see how was Achilles hungry for the artifacts, what I see is that he wanted to keep the artifacts away from the Templars by any means necessary. I also see Shay being quite self-righteous, quick to blame others but not questioning himself at all.
@Δημήτρης Μπάρδας he literally did as he took responsibility for his part in the disaster whereas achillies didn't and wasn't even phased by the deaths in Lisbon at all. Achillies wanted to use the artifacts against the Templar and in his pursuits he was breaking the tenets of the creed whereas shay upheld them more than he did, even as a Templar ironically.