The FERRO ROD to RULE THEM ALL
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- Опубликовано: 7 окт 2024
- What is The ferro rod to rule them all? What is the best ferro rod and striker combination on the market today? Dave Canterbury, Best Selling author of Bushcraft 101 and owner of Self Reliance Outfitters and The Pathfinder School states the case for the Pathfinder HD6. Ferrocerium Rods are plentiful in the outdoor community and come in various lengths and widths, shapes and sizes. But, if you are looking for THE Ferro Rod to rule them all, this is the one for you. Various hardness, length, thickness, striker options have been mulled over, challenged, tested and this is the result. The Pathfinder HD6 is THE best on the market today. If you are interested in purchasing a Pathfinder HD6, please visit:
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SRO is such a great place to shop for pretty much anything you would want in your pack for any outdoor outing or road trip including the pack itself.
Agreed. Fair pricing as well!
Chinese junk
I've been very happy with every purchase here. Quality and price are very good
Where do you get them at i would like to get me a few of them
@@MrOldclunker🤡🤡🤡
This is a great video on teaching how to use a Ferro Rod properly
Best YT video on the proper way to use a ferro rod that I've seen...well done sir.
Excellent piece of kit. But id love a 4 inch handle on the scraper. I live way up north, and loss of nearly all dexterity in the hands is just a fact of life in winter. A long handle you can grip in a fist is much more versatile in my opinion. Just a thought from a northern woodsman.
Agree. Or just use another tool to strike, like the spine of a fixed blade knife
Sold - just purchased!!!! Can't wait to try it out.
Thank you very much!
I have that rod it’s a good long lasting rod. However I have recently changed to a square 6 inch rod. The square corners throw massive amount of molting metal
Yup I've seen that one as well also the hex shape and the triangular one. And your right the corners are good for lots of healthy long lasting sparks. And yeah I know my push button torch is too much for backpacking but I only truck camp anyway so........😏🙂😉
Square becomes round from extended use
Molten
HELL YEAH!!!
Like ya profile picture
Good to know, except...
I don't think the rod is molting and shedding any parts 😉 I think you mean "molten." Liquefied by heat or in a state of fusion. 😀
This video really shows the strength of you prior military training and life-long experience. Thanks you for a great video & your service to our country!
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Thank you so much for sharing your skills with us. I am truly grateful. Have a great day
THOROUGH teaching! THANK YOU! ❤
Very nice 👍 I've got to pick one up for sure
I learned about ferrocerium rods as fire starters when I was 11., 55 years ago.. mine was/is attached to magnesium block. Back then we did not get that much info on how to scrape either the block or the rod so we used our Boys scout pocket knife blade, the cutting side.. dulled lots of cutting blades. My dad watched me start a fire in his BBQ and asked about dulling the blade.. the next morning I had a piece of a hacksaw blade with electricians tape near the hole with rawhide going to the mag bar. Worked great and the cutting teeth could cut notches for figure 4 traps. The dust was used to catch sparks. The scout master liked it. I still have that set up. I use my 5" x 1/2" rod now
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Hi Dave, The Bic lighter, the magnify lens, the ferro Rod (as per your teachings) and a mini flint and Steel set inside a Medicine bag are my "never-leave-home-without-it. The only issue that I have with the Ferro Rod is that it rust. A floury gray material forms around it and it pit. One of your teacher suggested to coat it with Vaseline.(Great suggestion) I also remove the dark paint just the area that I will be scraping on. I have a funny story to share about the ferro rod. This poor guy was desperate for a smoke but he didn't have a light. He asked a good dozen people but nobody had a light. He asked me for a light. I pulled my mini ferro rod and a tiny piece of tinder quick. I flick it and he was able to have his smoke. He was so freaked out and amazed about the ferro rod that he couldn't shut up. It was so funny to see him freaking out. 😂😂😂
Try painting it with clear finger nail polish.
An old guy who taught me a lot about bushcraft when I was a teenager was a SERE instructor back in the '80s. He let his guys smoke in SERE, but only if they could light a cigarette with their ferro rod. They got good QUICK!
fixin wax seems to work very well protecting my ferro rod. I just rub a bit on when I done - seems to keep away the oxidation. Also I have heard Ballistol works very well.
Chapstick will help too!
Any solvent or penetrating oil on a Ferro MAY be a bad idea because of the makeup of the rod, how its made. It MAY penetrate the rod and change its properties. While the solvent content of Ballistol is low, it is there. The rest is mineral oil
Dave, thanks for this very educational video on how to use this ferro rod
Thanks buddy for the great video. I have learned so much from you over the years.
I think this will be great when you review your products just so I can decide what else I need😮
Thanks Dave. you just taught me a number of things that i didn't know about ferrocerium rods.
Great lesson Mr. Dave
very good demo, but the explanations were even better!
great job!
Dam good job on video. Thanks for the demo on ferro rod . Nicely Done !!!🇺🇸🇺🇸🪓🔪👍👍
Greatly appreciate that.
Perfect. I have been searching all over for this length and thickness to fit my sheath. Now I got to see where I can find it. Here in Canada. It only took 50 seconds to convince me.
Sticking more or less to "fire"...WHEN are you going to produce the "David Canterbury American Felling Axe" again ... I am in a fever trying to find one!
That looks like a very good ferrocerium rod and striker combination. My favorite separate striker is a Bahco "2-1/2" Replacement Blade For Scraper" made of Tungsten Carbide, but it would be over 60% of the total cost of your system. Of course I could always use it in my Bahco raper ;-) so I guess that is something. I like that your scraper also supplies that hard acute edge that makes the scraping much easier and more productive. I enjoyed the video showcasing a fine fire-starting set. Of course I have always liked ferrocerium rods. Thinking about it, I still have my earliest one which was a relatively small rod in a red vinyl kit a fellow Boy Scout troop assembled. IIRC, purchased in the Scouting section of a Baltimore department store called Hutzler's. The store may be gone, but I still have the kit. Presently I have a BSA Hot-Spark on my keychain.
Good idea.
I made my strikers from HSS. And I rarely have to sharpen them.
But with tungesten steel, I can also use a carbon steel knife back as a spark source in a emergency.
I start pretty much every fire with a ferro rod. I never have a lighter with me, but i have a small uco rod/prybar stryker tied to my SAK lol awesome video brother!
I am by no means trying to do down what you're saying or this video. I'll very likely buy this FR from Dave's website when I get round to making my next purchase but that said, just to emphasise a point... I've had several FRs in my life and I have not used or had to use one in my entire life. I backpacked more than most people you'll ever meet. Roughly 8 years of my life. I once spent 11 months straight in a tent backpacking across the globe. In that entire time I always had several small bic lighters with me. Not once did one fail me. Last time I bought a few small bic lighters was back in 2016. I have been using the same ones since. I must have started over a thousand fires in my life. Can't recall a single time I failed. I still carry a FR for security reasons but despite what everyone says about how difficult it might be in strong wind or snow those small bic lighters never once failed me. Again, not taking away from your experience or the purpose of this video... just making my own point.
One of the best videos on the subject
I like that the cord that attaches the striker to the rod is long enough to easily use. Too many 'store bought' ones, are attached with a cord so short, you can't get a long enough, fast enough stroke with the striker for good sparks.
I always attach with shock cord.
@@evanhawk2574 Why shock cord over paracord; any particular reason?
You are looking a LOT healthier man. Good on ya
It's good to hear this stuff every once in a while.
Bought one years ago, it’s still kicking cheek meat. Stays lanyarded to my belt line, so I don’t end up losing it like the feller who lost his and tapped out early on “Alone” Season 1. No tapping out in an emergency. No handle to break off of the ferro rod, I wrap duct tape for a handle/ roll. Like the PF M40 cookset or anything from SRO, it’s robust and practical.
Lol, I know who you mean. I used to watch his RUclips until I learned about his adventures on alone.
His name is Joe Robinet :)
Dave, you need to do a video on preventing oxidation of the rod, such as using wax and other things.
6:37 I once experienced a situation, where I did it this way to light up a Trangia alcohol burner.
I put too much power into my movement, hit the burner with my knife, the burner fell over and the alcohol ignited all over the place.
Gladly my spot was safe, so there was no real danger and burning alcohol is easy to extinguish. For that reason, I prefer it this way 6:26
I have other brand name gear that I like but Self Reliance Outfitters is definitely my favorite. Awesome video my friend.
The uberleben 6" hex ferro rod is a spark making machine. If I ever wear it out will have to try a sro branded one. Still have a hand full of light my fire rods scattered in my packs too, they're on the smaller side but fit easier in the pocket. The mini infernos are awesome tinder pads and highly recommend them. 👍
I picked a gob spark. Big enough to use with frozen hands. Awesome rod. Firesteel out of Littleton,NH
If you've been doing something with great success for a long time, we can always lean something new from Dave Canterburys excellent tutorials.
Thanks!
I have strikers with a longer handle that are ment for sharpening garden tools. Best I ever had. Flat steel with rubber coating. Tungsten striker part.
I sell outdoor gear. When customers ask which Ferro rod set up to use I always tell them, the big one is the best one.
A Speedy Sharp makes an easy-to-use striker and has a larger handle. It has a carbide blade and is made to sharpen cutting edges.
Great explanation! Thank you sir! You're a LEGEND.
Thanks for the excellent educational content , Mr. Canterbury
Im now subscribed. Great content, just the way I want to hear it. No BS, just in your face, plain and simple. Also looked through your webstore, I like it. The survival pantry was something I really liked (among many things) and that you fleshed it out to a really good concept, is perfect. 👍👍👍
I love the way Dave explains every aspect and technique. He's a great teacher. Dave, what can you tell us about that belt knife?
Which model on SRO is it? Why did you choose that particular model? What's the difference between them?
This my favorite set. It will last a lifetime!
Great explanation. It looks like the perfect medium between hardness to last longer and yet soft enough to be able to take huge amounts off when necessary. And loved the visual aspects of the lighting different tenders. Very nice.
Thank you 👍
Awesome DAVE !!
Thank you for the Education!
Good video today. Your striker is much better than the hack saw blade some cheaper rods come with.
Thank you, completely agree.
Hi Dave, greeting from Australia 🇦🇺, thank you for your time to make these videos, I have 3 of the Hd6, a bit angry that mine didn't come tungsten striker, I only have the old striker's, however they are a good fero rod with a good striker.
Dave, you might be underselling your product there. Ferrocerium does burn at almost 3,500 degrees but that's in Celsius (over 6,000 degrees Fahrenheit!). That would make it almost 8X the temperature of 800*F flint & steel sparks, not 4X. It's a great ferro rod for sure - just like everything I've bought from SRO.
I buy those exact same strikers for every ferro rod I have. I throw the striker in the trash that comea with most ferro rods. You are the only person Ive heard mention this particular type of striker and I have only seen this striker with one ferro rod besides yours. Good job. A lot of people cut corners with the strikers and throw in a hacksaw blade..
Don't throw it away, give it ! 😢
Where do you buy your strikers from?
@@Yassin-cf4up Sure I'd just be passing a problem on.. I have given a few of the proper strikers away to people who struggled with a Ferro rod, not with those strikers. Still, it's all in the prep, like everything else.
@Sh311Sh0ck3d They're useful to train.
Using a hacksaw for several years now,never failed me once
The original striker didn't throw that many sparks like the hacksaw
Nice way to explain the mechanics behind a ferro rod. In addition, your making the distinction between "primary and secondary" application of fire starting tools. "When you have 3, you have two, when you have two, you have one, and if the only one you have fails, you have nothing but your knowledge!"
Thanks for the instructional video, Dave...been wanting to get a ferro rod for a while now...will add it to my go-bag. Btw, Dual Survival went downhill after you left, I know that was ten years ago but just sayin.
Thanks Dave for taking the time to film and share, looking forward to future videos in the series and continuing to be an SRO supporter.
I carry the orange "speed sharpner" same exact scraper, but can use in so many other applications. "The Mors you know"..
I have tried this technique with a set from Bass pro shop... It was my first and only experience so far and it was a very discouraging one... It made me want to forget trying this technique all together. I just bought one of these about 5 minutes ago and I should receive it in less than a week.. I will definitely give it a good review if it does as good as what you say but I will also be honest if it sucks..haha
You tell um sweetheart!!! And thank you for your informative videos sugar bear 🧸!!! I hope you at least get through to some of the ignorant masses. They mostly don't mean any harm and sometimes can actually be of assistance with the menial task's. I don't wish anyone to parish but parish they will if they don't start paying attention to videos such as your's and others trying to save maby a few lives. Good luck Mr Canterbury!!!!😒
That’s a good quality rod. I have a couple that throw even bigger molten metal that burn even longer. However it’s softer and won’t last as long. If you are not seeing molten metal just sparks the rod is inferior.
Can you share the best rod to use please 🙏
Of critical importance is the need to coat the ferro-cerium rod with some substance that will prevent spontaneous combustion. If not coated, the ferro-cerium rod will oxidize fairly quickly.
I use beeswax to coat my ferro-cerium rod. It works like a charm, and I have an accelerant available to enhance my tinder.
Same. I carry a Burt’s Bees Beeswax lip balm in my fire kit. Can use for emergency lip balm, but I just use it to rub down the ferro rod after use.
What a great idea!
Thanks!
The best thing I’ve used to start a fire with a fero rod is lint from the dryer filter. A little lint tucked in with a few shavings and a spark from rod and knife spine and you’ll have fire.
Yes but that dryer lint is just a flash tender, puff and then it's gone ..
The best Ferro rod like so many other things is the one you have with you. It's 100% technique and the proper kindling. I will admit that fancy tungsten striker is much prettier then the broken (now rusty) hacksaw blade I've been using for the last 30 years. Your rod/striker combination honestly looks great and 6" does seem like the ideal length, but it's the hours you have behind it that actually matter.
I’m glad to see your carrying a softer rod.
The way Dave puts out the fire with his bare hands just tells me he’s a badass! 😎
Or an idiot who doesn’t realise a lot of his viewers have a monkey see, monkey do attitude. And that someone somewhere is going to burn themselves.
Zero duty of care on RUclips.
Dave can do it all ! He is bull-et proof.
Great updates mate. Any cooking vid in the near future.? Cheers cobber.
Thank you for the lesson.😊
If you want to get more sparks by increasing the contact area between the rod and the striker Isuggest cutting a concave shape on the striker so it contact the rod on a wider strap rather thaan a thin line.
I almost always buy from SRO. It’s the only place where gear is tested true and reliable. Just throwing it out there but was thinking with all your contacts over the years, ever think of resurrecting the hunting packable slingshot? Most now a days are absolute crap. Lol Just a random thought
"What did you do last weekend?"
"Just scraping my rod."
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😊Thanks for sharing 😊
Great Video and Channel! Any chance on doing a product review of our Firestarter?
It looks good but it's hard to beat a bayite. I have a drawer full of rods. Bayite and EricX Lights are both excellent.
We can agree to disagree.👍👍 Thanks for the comment.
The Bayites are surprisingly good. Also überleben.
@@SelfRelianceOutfit I didn't say bayite was better, just hard to beat. Next time I buy a ferro rod I'll try the one you sell. It sure looks good.
@@pennsyltuckyreb9800 I have a couple of uberlebens and agree. For a high ferrocerium rod they along with light my fire rods are good. I like the high magnesium content better.
No explanation necessary. Lots of people have a favorite. This just happens to be the one we feel is the best combination. @@charlesmckinney
You read my mind bro...
Thanks Dave
Can we use that striker for sharping the knife ??
Thanks Dave. I appreciate your one stop shop for great products along with your explanation, demonstration and examples of their practical application and use in real world situations. Best wishes and much success Sir.
Thanks Dave great video God bless and stay safe brother
I'd Like To See How Well That Tungsten Striker Will Make Shavings Like A Piece Of Fatwood, Dave. I Really Like That Ferro Rod 🤘😜🤘
I'd take a ferro rod over anything else any day. I already have a flint striker in my knife so that's 2 means of making fire that I'd have to lose my pants to lose said items. And after your first fire, you char cotton, linen or some natural resource and you can create embers with far less of a strike to conserve the rod. The tiniest ferro rod spark struck off the last inch of the rod will light charred material better than any flint striker.
Great instructional video.
Hay guy here a tip for you all .take your fire starter rod and rapping it in a pice of char cloth and useing a small chunk of file and rasp the end of rod to get a spark on the cloth rapped around the rod lights easy and saves the wear and tear on the scrapeing of rod and gives you a realy hot long lasting spark .great show thanks enjoy .
Great products and free lessons, as always. I hope the viewers pay it back by supporting Self Reliance Outfitters.
Just got one Saturday already got fired ready
This is Dave from dual survival. I thought so. Him and Cody were the best I liked dave the most on the show tho
Thank you.
I have a Ferro rod connected to a small magnesium bar in my kit.
Thanks for posting. Great info.
You think you could put any sort of edge on a knife with the tungsten striker??
Good stuff and, as always, great quality products from SRO!
Have one, great rod and striker!
Sure glad you don't charge a fee to get your chanell an all your knowledge -there might come a day that you will- all right then but thank you DC.
Well explained. Good info.
I like how this platform randomly unsubscribed me from this channel for no reason. I've been watching Dave since he started uploading to this platform. I've rarely missed an episode. Yet suddenly, I wake up today to find that I was unsubscribed.
A good explanation of the use of a ferro-rod. Thanks, Dave!
It worked!!
Very informative video!
I throw in a magnesium fire starting kit in my backpack and yes you are right it is basically my last ditch effort to start a fire first is cigarette lighter then matches ( wrapped in swan wrap ) and keep 2 candles also. so far been successful in lighting campfires just with lighter and matches and candle but who knows my lighter my become useless matches run out and will still have a chance with my last backup ( magnesium fire starter ) they say 2 is 1 , 1 is none...experienced people know from experience doesn't hurt to have 1 extra...so I have 2 magnesium fire starter kits ( in 2 different backpacks ) in fact I have built up 2 totally independent full functioning survival backpacks and one put in your jacket pockets survival set up for easy short hikes
Great video thanks!
Excellent video
What knife was that Dave?
Is the striker tungsten or tungsten steel? A steel alloyed with tungsten won’t perform any different than a regular steel when striking a ferro rod. I think it’s tungsten carbide, which is 50%tungsten and 50% carbon. Almost as had as diamond. It’s a 9/9.5 out of 10 on the MOHS scale (diamonds being a ten)
Excellent video and I appreciate the effort it takes to put something together to help people. But as much as I know so much of my crap is "Made in China", I just hate that. Damn. Can't we even get a ferro rod made in America? Damn. (I think every one I've seen is made in China.) EDITED to add: just subscribed. Anyone who genuinely goes to the trouble to try to help another person is worth a subscription.
You can get original Auermetall rods from 5col Survival made in Austria, home of the inventor
@@sharzadgabbai4408 Thank you