FYI what he isn’t saying is this knot compromises line strength to a significant degree. When you are drop shotting 7lb test that is not a good thing. Palomar is FAR stronger.
I have to say this was the first east knot I have ever seen!! I was able to get it the first time!!! I’m gonna subscribe just because of this !! I will be using it for the rest of my life!! When I run out of these drop shot hooks I had to buy! lol
Bro…the easiest, simplest, most effective way of knotting. I can’t tell you enough how appreciative I am. I know that sounds crazy, but dude you have no idea how many videos I’ve watched and not one , but this one made the most sense. Best fishing to all!
This knot is new to me. Obviously, I like the way it holds the hook in place, but I'll have to give it a try in some situations where I'm not fishing for giant smallies to see how it holds up. Thanks.
easy and nice! an alternative to the "mouth hold" is clamp the hook into a pair of hemostats, and let it drop w/ the weight, gives same results, less risk.
Glad I could help! I study fishing every day, and I still have that beginner mindset. Keep that, learn every day, and you'll be hammering 'em faster than you think
I watched this video and found that the knot worked perfectly. I also made a mount of a piece of wood with a screw in it to hold the hook. No more trips to the hospital
This is great when vertically fishing for perch. Whether from a boat or on the ice. I put three hooks about 3 inches apart. This shows me the best depths for fish and if one gets the bait striped there are still two left..
This knot is great for the drop shot, but for any knot, I recommend practicing the knot at home until it’s second nature before using out on the water. This way, if we make any mistakes the first couple of attempts, it won’t cost us a fish! 🙂
I've been using this knot as my staple dropshot knot for years. Great knot and easy to tie in a pinch. It's tricky to put those smaller dropshot hooks anywhere near your mouth and I hesitate to do so, so sometimes I just cinch the knot as quickly as I can...fingers crossed it doesn't unwind in the process. That's probably the biggest challenge of this particular knot, having it unwind on you when cinching...the hook near the mouth can be a roll of the dice lol.
Many here in the comments have suggested placing the hook on one of the lines guides of your rod, or on a zipper, or any similar stationary object while cinching. Much safer than my hillbilly-ish way of doing things 🤷♂
@@dtffishingmi Yeah that makes sense I guess, but good luck getting the hook to stay in place on hook keepers, etc...still seems that you'd need a 3rd arm to make that work properly. I've tied it up enough to maintain control with just my fingers but every now and again the hook will unwind itself. I'll also say that this isn't the *only* knot where the hook may end up in someone's mouth in one way or another to cinch things off lol
Your knot series is awesome! Very easy to follow and great, consistent presentation. The palomar is so inconsistent for me on dropshot rigging, especially with super light 4-6lb flouro. I'm stoked to give this knot a try for dropshot.
Great video. That's how I tie my dropshots as well (although I spin it 5 times, not that it matters much). I used to use the spinshots that some companies make but I'm realizing more and more that some fish are weary of all the extra hardware. I've caught more fish on the dropshot since I went back to this method.
I always leave a longer tag end in case I want to have the bait higher off the bottom. Just move the split-shot or drop shot weight closer or farther from the hook to suit the need. Also, on the bank (or in the boat) it is easy enough to put the hook on a rod guide, etc, instead of your mouth.
Being able to adjust for depth is huge for sure. Using the rod guide or a similar stationary object is also definitely safer than my method. I should have given some alternatives in the video 🤷🏻♂️
Saw a video saying it's for dropping down fast for big tuna without getting twisted up (rubber band inline sinker) or having smaller tuna intercept the bait.
@@SlowCarsFastSFV that makes sense - This knot holds the hook in position better than other methods. If you had to zip it down past the smaller fish, it definitely would help to have a knot that doesn’t allow the hook to get twisted up by the water on the quick descent. Cool!
There are definitely safer ways that should have been mentioned in the video. I've just been doing it like hillbilly for too long now 🤷♂ Thanks for watching!
I've started using the vmc dropshot hooks. Line tie on one end, hook is on the "shaft" advd there's a tension slot on the bottom, much like how the dropshot weights cinch the line. Then you just cut your leader and pop it in, attach your weight and off to the races.
The VMC spin shot and spin shot neko hooks are pretty cool, they take away additional leverage from the fish because they swivel. I wouldn’t typically use them in still water just because I don’t want the bait to swivel around a fixed point, but I think they’d be awesome in the rivers. I haven’t tried it, but based on the design, you could drop a paddle tail or other soft plastic down with a heavier weight and get the same action you’d get with a retrieve in still water without moving the bait. The swivel would allow for the bait to naturally orient itself facing into the current consistently
@@dtffishingmi that's a good point about the swiveling. Hadn't considered that but haven't noticed any appreciable difference either. The paddle tail in the river is a great idea!
Loop knots are a good way to add freedom of motion to certain baits, like soft jerkbaits/flukes or small crappie jigs. I use just the standard loop knot (sometimes referred to as the non-slip loop knot) and it’s one of the next three I’ll be covering soon, alongside the FG knot and the Alberto knot 🙂
I've used this knot and love this knot but I never put any part of any hook in my mouth. I hook it on something in the boat or hang my pliers on the hook. Great demonstration. Thanks.
I almost exclusively use braid to fluorocarbon. There are a couple exceptions - when I am fishing in below freezing temperatures, I use straight monofilament, as it tends to resist the buildup of ice much better than braid. I will also use a braid to monofilament connection when making long casts with something like a spoon, and retrieving through shallow water, as monofilament is more buoyant and keeps the lure off the bottom even at slow speeds. With regard to the drop shot specifically, I exclusively use braid to fluorocarbon (even when ice fishing, but then I will use a special braid specifically for ice fishing). Braid is going to give you the most sensitivity, and fluorobarbon is going to give you the most stealth in your presentation - the best of both worlds. Thanks for watching!
Yessir! It’s also a easy to attach multiple drop shot presentations on the same line this way 🤯 - check state regulations before you go too crazy with it though lol
Looking back at the video, I'm not sure - but I wouldn't use this hook for drop shotting. The hooks I use either have an eye that is welded closed or the gap is very very tight, and if you just make sure not to get the line in that gap, you shouldn't have an issue. I just checked my hooks and some of the drop shot hook eyes are not closed but they are so tight that 8lb fluoro can't get in there
Great knot, but I'm still not comfortable about putting the hook in my mouth, especially for smaller hooks or flies. Perhaps you can grip the hook on some sort of post or a fly tying vice?
It would definitely be a problem with smaller hooks. You could secure the hook to anything stationary in those cases - as long as you’re able to hold the hook in that perpendicular position during the cinch, anything will work 👍
The Palomar was just inconsistent for me with the drop shot. Think I used it once or twice before discovering this knot and never thought about going back either
Yikes 😬 - some others have recommended securing the hook on one of your line guides, your zipper, or any other stationary object prior to cinching. If you try the “cool way” again - slow, steady cinch with the hook point OUTSIDE the mouth 🙂 (at your own risk)
Great tutorial, thanks a lot! Learned much and just figured out I made my knot somehow wrong 🙂 Perhaps hooking the hook in a peace of soft wood while pulling tight instead of risking a perforated lip could be a safer alternative ;-)
It would work with both but I typically wouldn’t recommend using braid for the drop shot technique since it’s more of a finesse/stealth technique. If you meant using braid mainline and fluoro leader - then definitely yes - I’d go with an 8 ft-12 ft / 8lb-10lb test fluoro leader. with regard to the knot, it will definitely work with any line type tho 👍
Better yet just secure the hook tip to a loop you tied or the first eyelet up from reel….then you don’t have to live dangerously. There’s all kinds of places (even on the reels themselves) to put that painful pointy part at besides your fish eating hole…..remember young’uns watch these vids too. So please be very careful doing the Lips technique and don’t show wee ones that as of yet in life. Although, it might teach’em a lesson 😏 naah, never mind, don’t do it. But I will say these are some of , if not the best, videos on knots I’ve come across. Really appreciate your work and offerings. Subscribed 👍
You’re right about the young’uns! There are plenty of safer alternatives that I should have mentioned. Kids are out here eating Tide Pods and “planking” on the interstate - the last thing I want to do is inspire a new challenge 🙂. Thank you for the kind words and for watching! 🙏
Ive been doing this method but ive clearly forgot 4 times around and instead was doing like 8... Doing 8 wasn't working very good i was having a lot of problems with the hook not properly staying on the line. With that in mind is there such thing as over doing it?
It will become increasingly difficult to cinch properly the more times you go around. I have found 4 to be the perfect amount for fluorocarbon in the 6-12 lb range 👌
@@trevortray541 It’s definitely the best for keeping the bait in that strike zone. AND moving the bait without covering ground. AND feeling the bite. DANG the dropshot is TOO good 🤯
Regular Palomar. Then loop the tag around and thru the top of the hook, wet and pull the knot through the eye of the hook to the bottom, which will keep the hook at 90 degrees. Much stronger compared to this knot in the strength test comparisons that I've done
In my experience, the Palomar is inconsistent at keeping the bait at 90 degrees, but I would wager you are correct about the strength. I guess at the end of the day, we just have to decide if the small difference in strength or the stability of the presentation is more important. There are going to be days where it doesn’t matter, and days where they are finicky and will only bite the bait sitting perfectly horizontally like a real baitfish
@@dtffishingmi I found that with the palomar type knot the size of the eye and the size of the nylon will make it or break it . To keep the hook at 90 degree the knot has to be pulled trough the eye at the end of the knot tying. The hook rests then on the knot , but it only works if the eye of the hook and the knot are a match. If the line is to thick you can`t pull the knot under the eye and if the nylon is to thin there is not enough knot for the eye to rest on. If they both match you will hear a click when you pull the knot trough. That is after tying the palomar you put the loose end (where you connect later the weight) trough the eye to pull the knot trough.
I've only ever used it with light fluorocarbon or monofilament in the 8-12 lb test range, but in theory, it should be totally fine as long as you can properly cinch the knot. Give it a try at home before you go out on the water - I'm betting that it will be fine unless you are drop-shotting for Giant Grouper or something crazy with 100 lb test nylon.
The strength of this knot definitely needs to be scientifically tested. Structurally, it’s similar to a clinch knot, except that the knot is formed on both sides of the hook’s eye. I would expect it to test similar to or a little better than the clinch knot in breaking strength. In theory, the Palomar knot is stronger, but there is a tradeoff with the consistency of the presentation to consider. This knot maintains the presentation far better (in my experience). Hypothetically, If there is only a 10% difference in breaking strength, is it worth sacrificing the quality of the presentation and potentially missing some strikes? I’ll be sure to test both knots when I eventually purchase the necessary equipment to do so. I’m very interested in seeing the difference 👍
That’s a valid concern - look for hooks with welded eyes or make sure the knot doesn’t rest on that gap. When you’re fighting a fish, the knot should naturally gravitate toward the apex of the eye if it’s going to move. I don’t believe I’ve had an issue with the knot falling into that gap, but I’m careful to make sure I cinch away from it. Should have been mentioned in my video!
Hard pass. I just use a Uni knot and use the extra tag and past it through the eye whole once i tie the knot. 10 second. Line doesn’t have to be horizontal to “catch em”. Never had any issues with line tangle or the hook moving.
@@hotrod9873 It is. 😉 There are a lot of anglers out there who have their way of doing things and will never change it up, because it's worked well enough for them. That's perfectly fine! For me, even if something is working, I'm constantly looking for ways to make it work even better.
@@hotrod9873 You might like today's upload at 5pm. Don't want to give too much away, but it might be my best video. It's some hacks/modifications for a very popular bait
@@Southwest.Angling haha, I use a spinning rod, but an inline reel is conceptually appropriate for the drop shot because it doesn’t create line twists. When I get my own kayak, I’ll be the first weirdo to rock a drop shot combo with an inline reel 🤷🏻♂️
Instead of holding the hook in your mouth, you might consider just putting the hook through something (like a screw eye) to hold it tight while you pull the line. Anything that works this way would be better than putting the hook in your mouth. 👄
Imagine going to the hospital with a fish hook through your lip! Safest to just attach it to anything in front of you instead while pulling line tight.
.. put the hook on your zipper pull ... NEVER put a hook in your mouth ,, have you not heard of Murphy ?? .. If your going to fish using this knot often ,, put a key ring on a lanyard around your neck ... always there ..
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Welcome back will make more sense when you return. 👍
Awesome. Been drop shotting for years and this beats the palomar for me.
FYI what he isn’t saying is this knot compromises line strength to a significant degree. When you are drop shotting 7lb test that is not a good thing. Palomar is FAR stronger.
I have to say this was the first east knot I have ever seen!! I was able to get it the first time!!! I’m gonna subscribe just because of this !! I will be using it for the rest of my life!! When I run out of these drop shot hooks I had to buy! lol
@@archiesandq haha nice!! 🤘
Without a doubt the clearest demonstration I've found for this knot. Thank you.
@@ChrisStrong thank you Chris 🙏
Just finding this after a year but very appreciative for the clear explanation + video slow-mo. New sub!
Thank you! 🙏
Perfect! The slo-mo and whole presentation was Easy! Thanks, looking forward to more videos.
🙏 Thank you
that,s the best knot i have seen
Best technique I've seen for tying a dropshot. Thank you
@@mejtalks thanks for watching!
Bro…the easiest, simplest, most effective way of knotting. I can’t tell you enough how appreciative I am. I know that sounds crazy, but dude you have no idea how many videos I’ve watched and not one , but this one made the most sense. Best fishing to all!
You’re most welcome, and thank you for the kind words! I’m just happy I was able to help 🤘
You're the man, best simplified knots video out there! Fan for life!
Thank you for the kind words! 🙏
Woohoo!!
Thanks Bro!!
Happy Fishing 🐟🐟🐟
@@trisha8579 🎉 Thanks for watching! Happy fishing to you as well 🎣
This knot is new to me. Obviously, I like the way it holds the hook in place, but I'll have to give it a try in some situations where I'm not fishing for giant smallies to see how it holds up. Thanks.
10-12 lb test line and it will handle big smallies 🤘
Thanks for the knot it works great. Just for fun I like KY for my hooks. Lol thanks
@@karlackermann4912 thanks for watching 🙏
Wow!…I never saw this method. I will definitely give it try. Thanks for sharing! 👍😎👍
Thanks for watching 🤘
Yeah, this is a fantastic way to tie my favorite drop shot. Just tied it, it was easy, or in honor of this series, it was knot easy.
If it’s not “Knot Easy”, it’s not easy! 🤔🤷🏻♂️
@@dtffishingmi 🤣
easy and nice! an alternative to the "mouth hold" is clamp the hook into a pair of hemostats, and let it drop w/ the weight, gives same results, less risk.
Definitely smarter and safer than the hillbilly-ish method that I use :)
Finally a drop shot I think I can actually do....😮
Thanks dude . Got it first time 😂. Tight lines
@@FOXY-2023 hell yeah brotha. Let’s get on em today! 🤘
Great explanation. Easiest I've watched. Thanks
Thanks for watching!
Hell yeah thank you homeboy! Beginner here
Glad I could help! I study fishing every day, and I still have that beginner mindset. Keep that, learn every day, and you'll be hammering 'em faster than you think
I watched this video and found that the knot worked perfectly. I also made a mount of a piece of wood with a screw in it to hold the hook. No more trips to the hospital
😂 safety first!
@dtffishingmi Too right mate. Keep up the good work and thanks. I subscribed to the channel
@@mrsnrub8500 much appreciated 🙏
when i tie this knot i putna piece of crappie plastic over the hook point. i have yet to hook myself
@@mybastardways3329 I did it with a couple size 6 hooks for perch this morning - livin’ dangerously! 😬
A great tutorial and the best part was the slow motion portion. I intend to change two of my crappy rods to this method.
@@josephberreth5705 I do this for crappie and perch too! Usually with 2 hooks
very helpful and so easy Thank you
Thanks for watching!
Love it!!!
@@michaeljasensky5438 🙏
Loving this series, been fishing forever but always nice to see how I'm wrong and learn these knots properly.
I’m still learning new stuff all the time - part of the fun!
@@dtffishingmi³ Dr
Stupid but this knot has gotten me in the past. Great video. Appreciate it
Sometimes we gotta learn the hard way, I’m sure my time is coming 🤷🏻♂️
Love it. Great tip and knot.
@@johnhanshe7921 thank you 🙏
interesting.
im gonna use this to help present pike deadbaits.
@@crap_fisherman I haven’t used it with heavy fluoro before - let me know how it works out!
great knot and so easy to tie thanks a lot, subscribed
Thank you Joe 🙏
Wow 😲. Did it from the first attempt as you. Thank you so much 😊
Hi Catherine, happy to help! Thank you for watching 🤘
Great video thanks 😊
Thanks for watching!
This is great when vertically fishing for perch. Whether from a boat or on the ice. I put three hooks about 3 inches apart. This shows me the best depths for fish and if one gets the bait striped there are still two left..
That's definitely another cool thing about this knot - the ability to tie on multiple hooks and keep them all in good position!
Came across this video and looks easy enough to make a good drop shot knot for hook. Will try next time out fishing
This knot is great for the drop shot, but for any knot, I recommend practicing the knot at home until it’s second nature before using out on the water. This way, if we make any mistakes the first couple of attempts, it won’t cost us a fish! 🙂
Awesome looking knot, thanks for sharing
No problem! Thanks for watching
I've been using this knot as my staple dropshot knot for years. Great knot and easy to tie in a pinch. It's tricky to put those smaller dropshot hooks anywhere near your mouth and I hesitate to do so, so sometimes I just cinch the knot as quickly as I can...fingers crossed it doesn't unwind in the process. That's probably the biggest challenge of this particular knot, having it unwind on you when cinching...the hook near the mouth can be a roll of the dice lol.
Many here in the comments have suggested placing the hook on one of the lines guides of your rod, or on a zipper, or any similar stationary object while cinching. Much safer than my hillbilly-ish way of doing things 🤷♂
@@dtffishingmi Yeah that makes sense I guess, but good luck getting the hook to stay in place on hook keepers, etc...still seems that you'd need a 3rd arm to make that work properly. I've tied it up enough to maintain control with just my fingers but every now and again the hook will unwind itself. I'll also say that this isn't the *only* knot where the hook may end up in someone's mouth in one way or another to cinch things off lol
Quality cheers trying this out tomorrow in the UK 🤙
Good luck out there! 6 lb. perch incoming 🤘
That was awesome. Ive watched too many videos on knot tying lately. This one is #1
Thank you
Thank you 🙏
Good stuff...!! Thanks for posting...
No problem - thank you for watching!
Your knot series is awesome! Very easy to follow and great, consistent presentation. The palomar is so inconsistent for me on dropshot rigging, especially with super light 4-6lb flouro. I'm stoked to give this knot a try for dropshot.
Appreciate it! Your presentation will always be right with this knot - let me know how it works out!
Excellent! Thanks for sharing a great knot.
You're welcome - thanks for watching!
Great video. That's how I tie my dropshots as well (although I spin it 5 times, not that it matters much).
I used to use the spinshots that some companies make but I'm realizing more and more that some fish are weary of all the extra hardware. I've caught more fish on the dropshot since I went back to this method.
Less hardware definitely makes a difference, especially in those clear conditions 💯
Thanks your video was so easy to follow. I appreciate it a shit ton!!
Thank you a shit ton! 🫡
I like the way you talk and how you get to 5he point without dragging it out.
@@MrSki-tyvm appreciate it 🙏
This Works the best I have ever used👍
Excellent demo! Perfect format for knot tying. Well done!! Subbed. Good luck with the channel!
Thank you for the kind words 🙏
Just great! Thank you!
🙏 Thank you
I always leave a longer tag end in case I want to have the bait higher off the bottom. Just move the split-shot or drop shot weight closer or farther from the hook to suit the need.
Also, on the bank (or in the boat) it is easy enough to put the hook on a rod guide, etc, instead of your mouth.
Being able to adjust for depth is huge for sure. Using the rod guide or a similar stationary object is also definitely safer than my method. I should have given some alternatives in the video 🤷🏻♂️
great video that knot is choice!
Thank you 🙏
Thanks for this!
Thanks for watching 🙏
Looks like a really good knot, I wonder if it works well with a thinner line.
I typically drop shot with 8lb test, handles big smallies!
Saw a video saying it's for dropping down fast for big tuna without getting twisted up (rubber band inline sinker) or having smaller tuna intercept the bait.
@@SlowCarsFastSFV that makes sense -
This knot holds the hook in position better than other methods. If you had to zip it down past the smaller fish, it definitely would help to have a knot that doesn’t allow the hook to get twisted up by the water on the quick descent. Cool!
i like your knot will try it thank U
@@joeglover5505 you won’t be disappointed! Good luck 🤟
Nice work. I would find something on the boat or wherever you are to secure the hook to though ... excellent presentation ... thanks ... Tight Lines !
There are definitely safer ways that should have been mentioned in the video. I've just been doing it like hillbilly for too long now 🤷♂ Thanks for watching!
I've started using the vmc dropshot hooks. Line tie on one end, hook is on the "shaft" advd there's a tension slot on the bottom, much like how the dropshot weights cinch the line. Then you just cut your leader and pop it in, attach your weight and off to the races.
The VMC spin shot and spin shot neko hooks are pretty cool, they take away additional leverage from the fish because they swivel. I wouldn’t typically use them in still water just because I don’t want the bait to swivel around a fixed point, but I think they’d be awesome in the rivers. I haven’t tried it, but based on the design, you could drop a paddle tail or other soft plastic down with a heavier weight and get the same action you’d get with a retrieve in still water without moving the bait. The swivel would allow for the bait to naturally orient itself facing into the current consistently
@@dtffishingmi that's a good point about the swiveling. Hadn't considered that but haven't noticed any appreciable difference either. The paddle tail in the river is a great idea!
GREAT VIDEO
Thank you 🙏
Thanks for all the videos! Learned a lot! What is your favorite Loop Knot? Do you use them? Lots of videos saying its best for some lures.
Loop knots are a good way to add freedom of motion to certain baits, like soft jerkbaits/flukes or small crappie jigs. I use just the standard loop knot (sometimes referred to as the non-slip loop knot) and it’s one of the next three I’ll be covering soon, alongside the FG knot and the Alberto knot 🙂
Great video easy knot
Thank you 🙏
By far the best tutorial. Thanks I really appreciate it. Gave you a like and subscribe. Thats how much I appreciated it haha
Thank you! Glad I could help!
I've used this knot and love this knot but I never put any part of any hook in my mouth. I hook it on something in the boat or hang my pliers on the hook. Great demonstration. Thanks.
You could also hook the hook onto something to keep tension while you cinch the wraps down instead of putting the hook in your mouth.
Definitely safer!
Thanks appreciate it
Thanks for watching 🙏
Love it ,but I think I will hold the hook whit my forceps 😊
Wise decision! (Make sure you can still pull the line from both ends)
@@dtffishingmi already try it works great ,being doing a simple loop knot for all these year’s ,we learn until we die
@@pedrohenriques2983 Learning never stops! That's the best part
Im going to try some spinning/ drop shot etc.. Do you prefer braid with a fluorocarbon leader or monofilament?
I almost exclusively use braid to fluorocarbon. There are a couple exceptions - when I am fishing in below freezing temperatures, I use straight monofilament, as it tends to resist the buildup of ice much better than braid. I will also use a braid to monofilament connection when making long casts with something like a spoon, and retrieving through shallow water, as monofilament is more buoyant and keeps the lure off the bottom even at slow speeds. With regard to the drop shot specifically, I exclusively use braid to fluorocarbon (even when ice fishing, but then I will use a special braid specifically for ice fishing). Braid is going to give you the most sensitivity, and fluorobarbon is going to give you the most stealth in your presentation - the best of both worlds. Thanks for watching!
Well, that was way easier than I thought it would be to tie a drop shot.
Yessir! It’s also a easy to attach multiple drop shot presentations on the same line this way 🤯 - check state regulations before you go too crazy with it though lol
@@dtffishingmi regulations? Wtf? No. I ain't checking shīt.
@@SystemLost 😂😂
Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
very good
@@geneweidemoyer7751 🙏 Thank you
Nice demo. When I look at the knot it seems to be over the corner of the eye that could cut the line Am I seeing that correctly?
Looking back at the video, I'm not sure - but I wouldn't use this hook for drop shotting. The hooks I use either have an eye that is welded closed or the gap is very very tight, and if you just make sure not to get the line in that gap, you shouldn't have an issue. I just checked my hooks and some of the drop shot hook eyes are not closed but they are so tight that 8lb fluoro can't get in there
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Great knot, but I'm still not comfortable about putting the hook in my mouth, especially for smaller hooks or flies. Perhaps you can grip the hook on some sort of post or a fly tying vice?
It would definitely be a problem with smaller hooks. You could secure the hook to anything stationary in those cases - as long as you’re able to hold the hook in that perpendicular position during the cinch, anything will work 👍
Been tying my DS like this for a year. I will never go back to the Palomar knot method.
The Palomar was just inconsistent for me with the drop shot. Think I used it once or twice before discovering this knot and never thought about going back either
Great description.. But I hooked my lip when I was pulling the tags😂😂
Yikes 😬 - some others have recommended securing the hook on one of your line guides, your zipper, or any other stationary object prior to cinching. If you try the “cool way” again - slow, steady cinch with the hook point OUTSIDE the mouth 🙂 (at your own risk)
I'm not sure why you need to put it in your mouth. What happened when you just pull the ends?
@@rickburke5185 it allows the hook to spin around - can make it wonky and mess up the position of the knot when cinching
Interesting I subscribed to your channel
Thank you 🙏
Great tutorial, thanks a lot! Learned much and just figured out I made my knot somehow wrong 🙂 Perhaps hooking the hook in a peace of soft wood while pulling tight instead of risking a perforated lip could be a safer alternative ;-)
Thank you! I’m sure I’ll learn after I hook myself 😬
Does this work on braid and flouro?
It would work with both but I typically wouldn’t recommend using braid for the drop shot technique since it’s more of a finesse/stealth technique. If you meant using braid mainline and fluoro leader - then definitely yes - I’d go with an 8 ft-12 ft / 8lb-10lb test fluoro leader. with regard to the knot, it will definitely work with any line type tho 👍
Better yet just secure the hook tip to a loop you tied or the first eyelet up from reel….then you don’t have to live dangerously. There’s all kinds of places (even on the reels themselves) to put that painful pointy part at besides your fish eating hole…..remember young’uns watch these vids too. So please be very careful doing the Lips technique and don’t show wee ones that as of yet in life. Although, it might teach’em a lesson 😏 naah, never mind, don’t do it. But I will say these are some of , if not the best, videos on knots I’ve come across. Really appreciate your work and offerings. Subscribed 👍
You’re right about the young’uns! There are plenty of safer alternatives that I should have mentioned. Kids are out here eating Tide Pods and “planking” on the interstate - the last thing I want to do is inspire a new challenge 🙂. Thank you for the kind words and for watching! 🙏
@@sending2ormore45 all I heard was that you have a boat and I’m invited! 😀
If they're not smart enough to understand how to do it safely, them perhaps this isn't the sport for them. You've gotta cut the cord at some point. 😊
Maybe we need a little more savagery. 🤷🏻♂️ We’re getting softer with each generation.
Ive been doing this method but ive clearly forgot 4 times around and instead was doing like 8... Doing 8 wasn't working very good i was having a lot of problems with the hook not properly staying on the line. With that in mind is there such thing as over doing it?
It will become increasingly difficult to cinch properly the more times you go around. I have found 4 to be the perfect amount for fluorocarbon in the 6-12 lb range 👌
@@dtffishingmi what's your favorite method for a fluorocarbon leader not?
@@johnabel6792 FG knot for leader > 12 lb, Alberto knot for leader
Thank you Jake I just tied the drop shot and put on a ThumpEm Soft Plastic. I'm about to smash the smallies.
I’m surprised there are any smallies left after what you been doin’ to ‘em! 😀
Clutch !
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Took me way to long till I noticed not to use any pressure 🤣 hate the drop shot buts it's too bloody good not to use in lure fishing
@@trevortray541 It’s definitely the best for keeping the bait in that strike zone. AND moving the bait without covering ground. AND feeling the bite. DANG the dropshot is TOO good 🤯
Che tipo di pesca facciamo con quel tipo di terminale?
@@pinolo951 pescas muy muy grandes! 😉
legit vid. What is the music???
Just one of the stupid free songs for creators 🤷🏻♂️
What was that?? "Been to Disney World 3 times!" Was that bragging rights?? 😹
Haha if you’d been been there before, then you’d know it’s the opposite lol
Regular Palomar. Then loop the tag around and thru the top of the hook, wet and pull the knot through the eye of the hook to the bottom, which will keep the hook at 90 degrees. Much stronger compared to this knot in the strength test comparisons that I've done
In my experience, the Palomar is inconsistent at keeping the bait at 90 degrees, but I would wager you are correct about the strength. I guess at the end of the day, we just have to decide if the small difference in strength or the stability of the presentation is more important. There are going to be days where it doesn’t matter, and days where they are finicky and will only bite the bait sitting perfectly horizontally like a real baitfish
@@dtffishingmi I found that with the palomar type knot the size of the eye and the size of the nylon will make it or break it . To keep the hook at 90 degree the knot has to be pulled trough the eye at the end of the knot tying.
The hook rests then on the knot , but it only works if the eye of the hook and the knot are a match. If the line is to thick you can`t pull the knot under the eye and if the nylon is to thin there is not enough knot for the eye to rest on. If they both match you will hear a click when you pull the knot trough.
That is after tying the palomar you put the loose end (where you connect later the weight) trough the eye to pull the knot trough.
Can this knot be used with nylon??
I've only ever used it with light fluorocarbon or monofilament in the 8-12 lb test range, but in theory, it should be totally fine as long as you can properly cinch the knot. Give it a try at home before you go out on the water - I'm betting that it will be fine unless you are drop-shotting for Giant Grouper or something crazy with 100 lb test nylon.
@@dtffishingmiThankyou!
@@king4joy517 Any time! Thanks for watching 🙏
But is it as strong as using a Palomar knot ?
The strength of this knot definitely needs to be scientifically tested. Structurally, it’s similar to a clinch knot, except that the knot is formed on both sides of the hook’s eye. I would expect it to test similar to or a little better than the clinch knot in breaking strength. In theory, the Palomar knot is stronger, but there is a tradeoff with the consistency of the presentation to consider. This knot maintains the presentation far better (in my experience). Hypothetically, If there is only a 10% difference in breaking strength, is it worth sacrificing the quality of the presentation and potentially missing some strikes?
I’ll be sure to test both knots when I eventually purchase the necessary equipment to do so. I’m very interested in seeing the difference 👍
How about just tying a Paloma’s and leaving the tag end long enough to add the weight.
@@anthonycecil7070 the Palomar method doesn’t hold the presentation as well as this knot does
I just put the hook on the handle of my tackle box and pull the ends with my hands.
That way it's no where near my face in case of accidents.
That's definitely safer than my hillbilly-ish way of doing things.
Just worried about the part of knot that's against the eye where it meets up with hook again if know wat I mean cause eye of hook not welded
That’s a valid concern - look for hooks with welded eyes or make sure the knot doesn’t rest on that gap. When you’re fighting a fish, the knot should naturally gravitate toward the apex of the eye if it’s going to move. I don’t believe I’ve had an issue with the knot falling into that gap, but I’m careful to make sure I cinch away from it. Should have been mentioned in my video!
@@dtffishingmi I put hook in zipper of jacket instead of mouth cause I'm old and shakey 😁
@@esoxinator968 much safer 💯
I solve that problem by soldering the eye of the hook. It's quick and easy. Solder doesn't stick to stainless steel hooks however.
@@terryvincent3640 I wish I was that handy - I'd just have to buy different hooks 🤷♂ Another useful skill I need to learn
1:58, hawk tuah alert
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why is mine upside down??? i did it 10 times and all were upside down and I'm getting pissed!!
Make sure you start with the line through the eye on the same side as the hook point 👌
Anyone else pressing their lips together while hes cinching it up?😂😂
😂 There’s actually a word for it - echopraxia (I didn’t know beforehand, I just looked it up lol)
Thanks mate for sharing this great turtorial! Greetings from the Netherlands!
@@pat632 Thanks for watching 🙏
Hard pass. I just use a Uni knot and use the extra tag and past it through the eye whole once i tie the knot. 10 second. Line doesn’t have to be horizontal to “catch em”. Never had any issues with line tangle or the hook moving.
@@C_H_U_ if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it 💯
I can see this being useful tho
@@hotrod9873 It is. 😉 There are a lot of anglers out there who have their way of doing things and will never change it up, because it's worked well enough for them. That's perfectly fine! For me, even if something is working, I'm constantly looking for ways to make it work even better.
@@dtffishingmi agreed
@@hotrod9873 You might like today's upload at 5pm. Don't want to give too much away, but it might be my best video. It's some hacks/modifications for a very popular bait
He never really mentioned if he’s throwing it on a casting or spinning rod 😉 lol
Fly rod 😉
@@dtffishingmi ohhhh I see how it is ehhhhhhhhh. Okay, okay 🥲
@@Southwest.Angling haha, I use a spinning rod, but an inline reel is conceptually appropriate for the drop shot because it doesn’t create line twists. When I get my own kayak, I’ll be the first weirdo to rock a drop shot combo with an inline reel 🤷🏻♂️
Instead of holding the hook in your mouth, you might consider just putting the hook through something (like a screw eye) to hold it tight while you pull the line. Anything that works this way would be better than putting the hook in your mouth. 👄
@@rafabonati7757 definitely smarter!
Imagine going to the hospital with a fish hook through your lip! Safest to just attach it to anything in front of you instead while pulling line tight.
Agreed! Don’t live dangerously like me 😬
.. put the hook on your zipper pull ... NEVER put a hook in your mouth ,, have you not heard of Murphy ?? .. If your going to fish using this knot often ,, put a key ring on a lanyard around your neck ... always there ..
There are definitely safer ways, like the ones you described. Everyone take notes, and don’t live dangerously like me!
💞Wow🤍🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🤍
I hooked my face now I’m in the hospital
Well, you have a couple of options - take it out, OR make a fashion statement!
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