Why Read Plato's "Republic"? | Robin Waterfield

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  • Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
  • Robin Waterfield, editor of the Oxford World's Classics edition of Plato's "Republic", tells us why we should bother reading it.
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Комментарии • 34

  • @bernardoxbm
    @bernardoxbm 9 лет назад +272

    best book ever!

  • @modeepa
    @modeepa 11 лет назад +14

    Thank you for this video. I would just like to add that in addition to being readable, it is also a worthy reading because Plato made a genuine attempt to examine by ways of posing hypotheticals and questioning rationales that were contemporary of his time for which we can understand the context.

  • @benallan1752
    @benallan1752 7 лет назад +45

    omfg. such an affirmation. first reason, it's readable or beautiful. I sometimes feel alone but today I don't feel wrong. republic and the brothers Karamazov are the two most beautiful books that I've ever read. both caused me to walk out weeping

  • @markwiygul6356
    @markwiygul6356 6 лет назад +28

    Read Plato's "The Apology" first, which is an easy read, very interesting and SHORT... then maybe try The Republic.

  • @romannoodle7005
    @romannoodle7005 6 лет назад +12

    One of my favorite books! I highly recommend it to anyone interested or curious in philosophy.

  • @Davemac1116
    @Davemac1116 8 лет назад +7

    Robin. I read again just recently your translation. (Oxford University Press, 1993). I was struck by your remarks in the Introduction summarising Plato's view: that we align ourselves to the rationally ordered Universe, kosmos ('elegant order'); be decent and moral, help our neighbours, and hence ourselves. The opposite: chaos, evil. I like this idea of somehow orientating oneself to the Universe, in harmony with the flow rather than against it. And this idea which you brought out chimes very much these days (albeit badly stated and hopelessly ambiguous) in New Age metaphysics. I see it as more fundamental. I like that interpretation you offered. It somehow intuitively has a ring of authenticity. Perhaps as we learn more of the cosmos, how everything is interconnected, Plato may be more accurate in ways he couldn't have guessed.

  • @Steerpike07
    @Steerpike07 12 лет назад +5

    Wow. I better go read it again now. This guy is excellent.

  • @p3tr0114
    @p3tr0114 6 лет назад +36

    Lesson learned from Plato's Republic: just get slave boy to agree with you.

  • @melexdy
    @melexdy 8 лет назад +23

    Ok I ll give it a try.. I dont like high brow philosophy, I want to understand what I read and I dont feel the need to brag about the things I read

  • @johnwentz2149
    @johnwentz2149 6 лет назад +1

    That, and it's important piece to understand the development of totalitarianism.

  • @kalixta
    @kalixta 7 лет назад +3

    very good voice!

  • @Allanrpsx
    @Allanrpsx 11 лет назад +4

    I'll give that a shot. Maybe I just haven't got far enough into it, but i find myself putting down the book after no more than an hour or two just painfully annoyed at how Plato treats the issues. Socrates is my least favorite character in the book...

  • @grumpyoldman8661
    @grumpyoldman8661 7 лет назад +12

    After reading "The Republic" (Waterfield's translation) go on to read (as an antidote) Karl Popper's first volume of his "The Open Society and it's Enemies" where he designates Plato as one of the earliest advocates for the totalitarian state. (UK)

  • @Meph552
    @Meph552 12 лет назад +5

    It is never right to do wrong.

  • @MAminGental
    @MAminGental 11 лет назад +1

    Thanks

  • @JzCrIPtO
    @JzCrIPtO 6 лет назад +4

    Why should we bother to be good? Because Eudaimonia!

  • @appleintheeye1
    @appleintheeye1 11 лет назад

    Hurrah!

  • @gorgolyt
    @gorgolyt 11 лет назад

    That sounds like a rather black and white way of saying "I am right".

  • @Tetsu239
    @Tetsu239 11 лет назад

    poisoning the well

  • @garundip.mcgrundy8311
    @garundip.mcgrundy8311 7 лет назад +15

    This guy is a brick layer from Montgomery, Alabama, he's reading a script and faking a British accent! His name is Cy Altoni. His family heritage is Italian. Ask anyone in downtown Montgomery. I know this guy, he is an absolute fake!

    • @contacttaimur
      @contacttaimur 7 лет назад +3

      Does that matter?

    • @garundip.mcgrundy8311
      @garundip.mcgrundy8311 7 лет назад

      In a world of talent and merit, yes it matters. Does false news matter? Not if you're a Marxist-- the end justifies the means. It's o.k. to fool the public. There is no such thing as truth, justification by appeal to truth, or the long journey to truth. Yea, this is Marxist America... all full of rainbow colors.

    • @JayZondi-cd8jj
      @JayZondi-cd8jj 7 лет назад +1

      hey grundy mcgrundy, no offense but i'd like to kick your ugly face

    • @garundip.mcgrundy8311
      @garundip.mcgrundy8311 7 лет назад +4

      I'm not ugly! My mom says that I'm the best-looking young man in the 9th grade. Plus, I have already skipped a year. Can you say the same of yourself?

    • @reachforacreech
      @reachforacreech 7 лет назад

      where does it say in Marxist text that there is no suck thing as truth or any of the other things you stated?