Plato: The Student Becomes the Teacher
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- He may have started as Socrates' pupil, but he grew into an enlightened man who is arguably the most influential thinker in the history of the world.
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Alfred North Whitehead: : “The safest general characterization of the European philosophical tradition is that it consists of a series of footnotes to Plato.”
Aristotle to Plato: "The circle is now complete. When I left you, I was but the learner. Now I am the Master."
Only a master of Evil Darth
Look at me I am the captain now.
Putin said that to his KGB mentor when he visited him on his 90th birthday. No joke he really did
@@ash7324 What? "look at me I am the captain now"? wasn't expecting that.
@@jamesjross unfortunately no 😂 but I guess that would also be applicable 😅
“It’s just forms?”
“It always has been”
This made my morning. Or rather, my morning was already made, I just remembered it.
The Good in your morning is above and beyond your every day experiences in the physical world.
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That's a solid comment...
So certain were You. Go back and closer you must Look.
In a Humanities class one of the papers we had to write was one where 2 philosophers would meet and discuss. I chose DeCarte and Plato and made it humorous. Plato walks into a bar called Foolossofers wearing a shirt that says The Academy Rules, he sits down and a bar waitress comes over and asks "Mr. Plato, what's your poison?" Plato replies "Who do I look like, Socrates?"
LMBO
Ah yes Pythagoras theorem in skool maths on a wet Monday morning
As the great philosophers Bill & Ted could often been heard saying, “So-crates is excellent smart”.
Don't forget those excellent philosophers, Monty Python's Flying Circus, and their sage words on the matter "Socartes himself was permanently piiiiiissed!"
I had to do that in Philosophy but it was any historical figure. I chose Hitler and Jesus. I was still christian at the time lol didn't even realize that the Vatican celebrated Hitler's birthday during his time in power.
Ancient Greek and roman biographics are the best. For anyone who's interested I'd definitely recommend an audiobook of Caesars commentaries on the gaelic wars. 7 hours long but absolutely fascinating 👍
If you enjoyed Ceasar's Gallic Wars much as I do RUclips has an audiobook narrated by the same amazing narrator (Charlton Griffen) and It's called "Alexander the Great Anabasis by Arrian- audiobook Complete 12 hours". It's almost twice as long as Caesar's and every bit as an amazing piece of story telling and history. Alexander led a short but Charmed life and remember when Ceasar's firsts trip to Egypt he went to see Alexander's Tomb and he wept because Alexander had conquered the world at 30 and Ceasar had yet to accomplish anything compared to him.
Side note.. I think it's also very interesting that Augustus when he was 32 did the same as Ceasar and went to Alexander's Tomb and I think he came away thinking he had outdone Alexander since he had conquered and Empire and it actually functions.
@@Wallyworld30 cheers, 30 and conquered most of the known world and a few thousand years later the average age to get a mortgage on a house is 32 😂😂🤦♂️
@@Wallyworld30 I just wanted to add that the gaelic wars book was actually written by Caeser in the third person. Thanks again though 👍
16:00 Diogenes would be an exception, living 10ish years longer seemingly without any medical care at all.
Out of sheer will to spite his haters lol
Relishing in your own filth & sniffing your own farts = the key to longevity.
@@d.c.8828 just let the dogs determine when you're time is up.
He was busy plucking chickens and letting them run around screaming there goes another human. It was his sarcastic laughter and public masterbation that made him live so long.
@@d.c.8828 not bathing is quite different to relishing in filth... that was Alastair Crowley haha 😂
Aristotle:
I think mr. Biographics parts his _hair_ way too platon 🤔
Rebecca's Goldstein wrote a great book called Plato at the Googleplex in which she uses Plato's voice and philosophy to comment on the 21st century. It's an interesting and engaging book that's as creative as it is thought provoking.
Thank you for this.
Love your videos. Appreciate all the knowledge that you're dropping on us.
any chance you can do one on the Royal Saudi Arabian family.
Funny that the example was about the color blue, when it is "the rarest" color and back in the ancient times most civilizations had no idea what a blue would be.
How about general Montgomery?
(Btw LOVE your videos)
I am once again asking for a video on Augustus Caesar
Ah yes Plato! I remembered him because of Diogenes.
"Plato's impact on Western scholars is incomparable..."
Michelangelo has entered the chat.
Still waiting on my Danny biographic...
Metaphysics is the more effective interpretation of logarithmic condensation-coordination vanishing-into-no-thing Singularity-point positioning of metastable resonance bonding proportioning cause-effect of Quantum Chemistry, holography quantization perspectives.
Euler provides a graphical solution for Plato's Socratic Method of Teaching relevant real-time relative-timing Actuality. 12:17
Thank you
Please make a video on Chanakya
I'd like to suggest a video on Rene Descartes
I still have yet to read the republic and I know that’s not good. I need to get on that!
I was wondering what myth Tolkien used for the One Ring.
Do Democritus the guy who coined the term Atom
It was about time you uploaded the best philosopher ever 's biography! 😍🤣👍
**Laughs in Camusian absurdism**
Simon, we need RBG biography!
Pls do Queen Elizabeth I first next !
Since a biopic on John brown is premiering on October 4 can you do a full story on him
His beard ate his body; this is Simon 2.0
Why not do a video about Enver Hoxha (1908-85) the (outside of his own country) almost forgotten Tyrant of Albania, and supernationalistic Communist?
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What if the color someone else saw was ..let's say ...red, BUT you saw blue, was taught it was blue ...and that red color THEY saw was also known to them as blue because they were indoctrinated that that color was called by the name - blue. No one would ever know two things. One, that person saw a different color and that colors could vary according to the individual.
I really need to read my book "The last days of socrates" now haha.
finally😁👍 plato
But i follow the aliens philosophy of UFOs
They used to say the ancient Greeks had quite a nasal profile 😃
Next biographics: Ruth Bader Ginsburg!!!
I will not stop asking. Please make more videos covering the people in the American Civil War, for example;
Thomas Jackson, better known as Stonewall
General William T. Sherman, who I really couldnt say anything about without someone getting pissed
Confederate President Jefferson Davies
Colonel Robert Gould Shaw, who commanded the first African-American Regiment in the Civil War
Ulysses S. Grant, who needs no introduction
Etc.
I just wish there were more videos that tackled the people in the Civil War on your channel
Agreed on Robert Gould Shaw. Superb man!
If you want to understand the theory of forms watch the matrix
You should make a Alex jones biography
I recently read "The Republic" by Plato. It was an exercise in examining how best to manage a society or civilization. In the end I realized it was something that applies to each individual as well. Do yourself a favor and spend time on yourself and those you care about and try to limit the amount of time spent under the direction of others...like entertainers.
I haven't read the Republic... but wasn't it anti-democracy and (if you believe some philosophy professors like AC Grayling) some what fascist? As you've read it I thought you may have some insight. I heard he was in favour of a benevolent King over Athenian democracy.
Did it help you fall asleep?
"limit the amount of time spent under the direction of others....like entertainers"???? You mean....NO TV? Quite un-American of you to say that (I am assuming you are American, apologies if you are not!)
A republic does not equate to fascism. The united stated is a constitutional republic, not in fact a democracy. We elect representatives to hold up our ideals. The process has democratic aspects to it but true democracy isn’t realistic.
@Timothy McCaskey I interpret that Socrates/Plato was critical of an uninformed, unchecked democracy, like was found in his day in Athens, or by extension, in the USA. He/they seemed to feel that a democracy populated by under-educated and unphilosophical citizens would make poor decisions and thus be easily swayed by demagogues /political opportunists. An educated and scrupulous populace might therefore make for a proper democracy.
Also, while his/their ideal utopia smacks of fascism to the modern ear, the ancient ideal of the philosopher was implied to have superhuman attributes of morality and wisdom (similar to a Stoic sage, or a bodhisattva, or a Buddha, or a Christian Saint) not just mere dialectic and intellectualism like today. In other words, only a "True Philosopher" is fit to rule responsibly.
I hope this helps . . . .
Some people I'd like to see a Biographics video about:
Abraham Lincoln
David Bowie
Ralph Waldo Emerson
Henry David Thoreau
Walt Whitman
Kurt Cobain
Thomas Jefferson
Freddie Mercury
Jimmy Carter
Ulysses S. Grant
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
William Wordsworth
Calvin Coolidge
Why no women?
@Henryk Gödel "You're" and "one's"
Henryk Gödel yes, how about those witches who started BLM. Simply write and report the truth and watch the SJW cry
@@john-paulsilke893 what??
@Henryk Gödel
I am also free to simply ask you a question. You don't have to answer it like you're my mother, in a reproving, prissy, hurt manner that includes an insult, because you're inexplicably offended by my asking if there are any women you'd like to see. I liked your list of subjects, and I was interested in what women you'd like to hear about, but you had to get offended/defensive, or whatever you are. I guess you're extremely sensitive, so, as I tell mom, I didn't mean anything by it, I was just asking a question. Now you can go off again on how entitled as a woman you think I'm being.
An object known as the Ring of Gyges which allows a person to become invisible at will? Getting some Lord of the Rings vibes here.
Today, his name would have been *SWOLE*
a conclusion based on years and years of research and study as a dean of the faculty of....
"Who died and left Aristotle in charge of ethics?"
Ah yes a great beard to rival Simon Whistler, bit we all know the great Simon holds more knowledge.
that is a strong chin for a strong boi
You know he's reading a script right?
You watch over simplified too?
He stands on the shoulders of giants
If thou doubtst the power of the ancient beard of Whistler as gifted to the earth by mighty Zeus then thou shall be struck down by the might of the Gods.
wasn't this the guy who continued to get trolled by Diogenes?
"behold! Platos man!" as Diogenes throws down a featherless bipod on the floor of the Academy
Underrated comment 😂😂
a lot of people got trolled by diogenes,
Diogenes was a G.
Diogenes was the OG madlad.
Do zenon of kition next, a philosopher playlist would be nice
Fun fact plato means plate in my language
paulo arguelles Australian?
Liliana Bray 😂😂😂
" board" for his physical appearance
Spanish plato (plate) comes from Latin plattus and is actually a borrowing from Greek πλατύς which in turn is used to derive Πλάτων with the suffix -ων.
Neato
This is the type of biographic that will make you become a philosophy major.
When we getting a video on the great travles of ibn battuta Simon?
do a biographic on Sun Ra, one of the most mysterious and great jazz composers
YES!!!
A great suggestion! Herman Blount was so far ahead of his time that he makes Lady Gaga look conservative....he must have been kind of a savant, since he was so unbelievably talented at such an early age.
Not a suggestion I expected at all here, but a really great one! Sun Ra is incredible.
Can we get a MLK Bio. Please and Thank you
You could almost say Plato is the... platonic ideal of Greek philosophy!
Another good one Simon. Many thanks. I've said it before and I'll say it again, please do your take on David Bowie.
Another brilliant biography. I suspect one reason Plato lived a long life was because he maintained an active brain. Even today education is associated with longer lifespan. Another reason may be because many aesthetics of the age believed that exercise and eating rationally helped maintain mental acuity.
Geez there were a lot of Euclid class entities in Ancient Greece.
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Hi from New York.
I would love to see:
Frédéric Bastiat
Thomas Jefferson
Rudolf Steiner
Walter Russell
Ludwig von Mises
Murray Rothbard
Friedrich Hayek
Milton Friedman
Manly P Hall
Pythagoras
Helena Blavatsky
Jiddu Krishnamurti
Aldous Huxley
George Gurdjieff
I loved the episode on Aristotle and am therefore eager to explore this one. 😊
Were Monty Python correct, was Aristotle a bugger for the bottle?
@@cavramau Now we.need one on Socrates ro see if he was really permanently pissed...
Good to see philosophers here, rather than random criminals and pirates
Hand over your philosophies matey or walk the plank...!
1:35 - Chapter 1 - Early life
4:05 - Chapter 2 - Influences
9:15 - Chapter 3 - Philosophy & famous works
15:10 - Chapter 4 - Later life & legacy
There’s only room enough for one teacher’s pet
If you're interested in a quick read of Plato, to sort of get an idea of who he is and who Socrates was, check out "The Apology". It's an account of the trial of Socrates in 399 B.C., where Socrates was tried in front of a jury of 501 jurors. I won't spoil the ending for you, but it's worth the read.
Does it involve Hemlock?
@@john-paulsilke893 It does if you continue on to the book of Phaedo, which is usually included with the apology. the saddest part is when Phaedo describes the guard pouring the hemlock and everyone in the cell can no longer hold back their tears, with the exception of Socrates. It gets me every time.
TheLacedaemonian300 like a Gladiator. Socrates was a beast.
@@john-paulsilke893 You're damn right he was, brother!
TheLacedaemonian300 and by the way, you aren’t the only man brought to his knees in a blubbering mess of tears. (And yes I am aware of his many, many faults.)
Love the style of this channel!
I don't recall. Did you do a Biographics on a woman (or twelve) like Dorothy Heights or Coretta Scott King? Abby Kelley is also fascinating. In the 1800s she advocated for the rights of women and slaves.
Not a great explanation of plato and his philosophy, rest of all your videos are awesome.. But some how for such a great influential historic figure like plato, I don't think you did justice in explaining his life and his philosophy, lot of vague jumpings of concepts and comparing him to others is more ...please do one more reversion of plato..
Plato had some strange beliefs. I like the one about the ant on the roadside. Might get it wrong and not sure it’s him that came up with it but here goes. An ant is walking in the grass along the road. It lives it’s entire existence there, unaware of the travelers going to and fro, giants that from time to time throw things in the ditch that it finds. It doesn’t know where they came from but it’s not complaining. I think the question is to do with God and the limits of human perception. If an ant can’t perceive the mass of human civilization above it’s head and couldn’t hope to comprehend the vastness of it, yet still is directly effected by it is it any different from humanity? You could even substitute the concept of God for many others, dimensions, ect. The point is just because you cannot perceive something doesn’t mean it isn’t there and doesn’t effect you.
Please do John Milton next. He’s the most important poet to the English language that not enough people know. He literally rivals Shakespeare in terms of his literary influence. Not to mention that his life is incredibly moving to learn about. I’m sure you’d make an incredible vid on him!
I have just discovered this world, idk what it is but it is amazing and sparks something inside me. I am going to look up the poet you speak of, thank you for sharing knowledge.
Don't forget, he also invented the plate.
And Socrates invented soccer.
Thank you for sharing this wise troll
Perhaps we could get a bio on Friedrich Hegel? He influenced many modern thinkers, Including Marx
I have my first Intro to Philosophy test this Tuesday. Thank you for putting this out at just the ideal time.
**This is blowing my mind**
Read the War of the Ancients by Aldinon Exilus. It's an ode to Plato.
i feel like a lot of stuff these ancient philosophers wondered was the same stuff we wondered as kid
Probably because your language as a kid was already prepared by Greek thinking that seeped in common language. If you inspect kids at least before modern period in non-western countries... I doubt if these are the things which they wonder about or talk about. Language around kids, the grammatical structure prepares children to think readily about these things. If you look at Ancient China or even Archaic Greece itself before Aeschylus, language was very advanced, highly poetic and reflective but primitive also in some areas, almost incapable of thinking critically. The topics and gifts that language provides then are about dwelling harmoniously and religiously within a tradition and respect. The lack of independent nuclear families but large clan structures which take kid's attention away from independent thinking, even independence as such is really strong. People back then were seldom "individuals" in today's sense
“when I left you,But the learner, I was.The master, now I am.”
-Darth Vader
Of evil only, a master thou art.
Nerds lol sorry had to do it.
I Can't really say tht when I'm sitting here watching a biographics video with yall, I guess I'm a bit ofna nerd too, just more of a history nerd not a star wars nerd I guess u could say
Hi Simon very off topic but could there be any chance of a Bio on a Great British comic like Steve Coogan or some one such as... I’m appealing to your British side on this! As a fellow Brit this would be awesome. Love your work and the beard, ‘‘tis mighty
IT would be amazing to watch a Biographics on David Hume, Rene Descrates . Love this one :)
I thought this a bit scant. No mention of The republic and little attention to the rest of his body of works, nor a mention that Plato is the father of the term Platonic relationship.
its a 15 min video! Not a f*king 4 volume hard back book collection, not a BBC mini series, not a university thesis,...... FFS!
Plato's shadow looms largely today and in the past two and a half thousand years. And that fact is one of the most sad and depressing facts about history. Plato should have just gone on to be a wrestler.
Could you do a video about Ruth Bader Ginsberg next, now that she's passed away?
@raymond terry Wow...Well done on making that needlessly contentious.
I just saw that today... So 😥...
@raymond terry I believe that in the 1st trimester, abortion isn't murder as it's 1st only a group of cells, then a zygote, & at like 2 1/2- 3 months an embryo... What if the Mom was raped?? Why would anyone give birth to the (more than likely) sadistic spawn of an evil rapist monster??
Jamell Foster you believe in abortion because it is needed to make women exactly equal to men. This is an argument you can apply universally to your other political principles. Any other argument you make falls short of the ability to apply it universally.
In the case of rape the resulting baby did nothing wrong. She doesn’t have to raise it herself she can put it up for adoption.
@raymond terry So long as you accept the outrages perpetrated by your own 'side' as 'true'. I am guessing you don't.
I loved doing Plato at uni. This video is being back great memories.
I used to play with that stuff when I was a kid
Plato's impact on the way the modern Christian gospel is understood and preached also cannot be overstated. Through St Augustine, Plato's ideas form part of the backbone of the vast bulk of Christian preaching today, both protestant and catholic.
Out of everything I learned/read in my college western humanities class, Plato was the most confusing. The theory of forms was supposed to take up like 5-10 mins but instead it took up the entire 45 minute class, partially because while my teacher was great he wasn’t the best at explaining things and his answers to people questions seemed contradictory. Reading the republic and allegory of the cave was so confusing it was mind numbing and it felt like I didn’t understand English trying to understand what he was trying to say. Now that it’s been a few years and I’ve learned more about philosophy I’m going to revisit them but it also sounds like torture (with my ADHD and ASD I can’t follow audiobooks so I have to actually sit and read it)
For the willing ones to try and study Plato from his own text: the form of attic dialect Plato writes, is considered the highest for the Ancient Greek language ever reached.
More philosophy topics ❣ There are so many to choose from!!
Prince Eugene?
Plato is by far my favorite philosopher
How can this have 420 views when it's only been up for 10 minutes & it's 17:35 long?
x2 speed
Dibby who the hell puts it on 2x speed?
kiaan davids me lol. i get to understand the video while saving half the time. and since it’s not hard to understand on x2 speed, i lose nothing and gain time.
420 views is a hidden suggestion to toke up with your favorite green before you enjoy the video. Simon goes with your best bud like they were made for each other...
Views are counted as you click on the Video, wtf are you all talking about 🙃
This has been my favourite of all the Bio videos. Thank you.
I used to clock in with a different person every week, plato was my first
Great evaluation there Simon 👍, would you think of doing another sister channel called philosophic-graphics? I would definitely subscribe to that 🤓
More please. But the theories hurt my head.
Please please please do Jacques Lacan at some point c:
I would imagine that Pluto's writings of Socrates were made to make up for the fact that Socrates hated writing as he thought it was an ineffective way of transmitting information and made the mind lazy.
There are a number of parallels between Platonic philosophy and Hindu/yogic mysticism. William James’ work “Varieties of Religious Experience” sheds some light on the modes of experience that lend themselves to such metaphysical philosophies (e.g. the experience of “divine insight” viewed through a psychological lens that makes such phenomena relatively understandable to people who have never had such an experience).
Simon Whistler u r the best podcaster out there ryt nw-keep up the great work👌🙌
Plato and Pythagoras both studied for approximately 20 years in Egypt, formerly known as Kemet - the ancient civilization that built the pyramids AND had advanced sciences, engineering, astronomy and philosophy for the 3000 plus years prior to the Greeks arrival in Egypt.
Both Plato and Pythagoras were exposed to the philosophies and sciences that were well known by hundreds of thousands of people in Ancient Kemet during those prior 3000 years.
So, 3000 years of Kemetic knowledge by hundreds of thousand of people from an African civilization whose achievements dwarfs that of Classical Greece, VERSUS 20 years of study each by Plato and Pythagoras.
Where do you think "Greek " philosophy truly comes from?
Vizzini: I can't compete with you physically, and I'm far smarter than you.
Westley: You're that smart?
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Westley: Yes.
Vizzini: Idiots.
How can such a primitive understanding of the world be so instrumental in shaping civilization to this day? It’s a bit strange.
Oh blue is it? 🤣😳🤔😶🤭🤗 Had to just pick the color blue? Oh gawd one of my poor philosophy teachers is gonna have a f***ing heart attack if I send him this video! 😂😭🤣