Ahhhh Pancake, I love the way you build these flimsy bases, wind every thing up to 11 and march with undeserved confidence to horde night. Aaaaaand then you pull it off. Then I have to watch the whole thing again and take notes. Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi Oi! Thanks and keep up the good work.
Big applause. Your builds and technics are just perfect. Been following you since you started. And you get better and better. I'm onestly copying a lot in my own basedesigns and hordnights are now a easy cup of cake. Thanks so much
I've watched this three times and can't get enough! Your simple but effective designs are great! I especially like the use of different blocks in your builds. Love your channel mate! Keep up the great entertainment!
That was great, extremely efficient in terms of ammo usage. I definitely see many ways someone could adapt this for a regular play through base. Well done.
Cheers - definitely going to run this through the base eval framework to test its efficiency .... once A21 comes out and I have to re-do the framework :D
this made a super easy inexpensive base for my current playthrough. mostly wood with a little cobble on day 7, a few pipe bombs and the horde is over. it's nice to kill them all so fast. easy to upgrade for later stages, this is a great design.
I have just built and used this base on a horde night. Mostly it worked fine except for two major glitches which I don't think are the fault of the base. First...birds attacked the concrete walls of the coffin and at some point two of them glitched through...no actual broken blocks. Worse...again NO broken blocks...I was pushed/glitched through the walls and had to run for my life. Again I think it was the birds so in fact I hope an easy fix (I didn't have any bird traps set but that will change) Mostly this is an awesome base for a player like myself so thank you.
I love this. This is maybe me being silly but after being at the bottom of the pit to collect loot. With the parkour perk it is so hard to get out of the pit because of those three pole plate halfs. Perhaps I've followed it wrong but did you ever run into this? haha Edit: Unsure what I was smoking or maybe it was just too dark to see but it's really not an issue... Horde tomorrow, very excited to take it for a spin! Thank you :)
Glad you've worked this one out - and yeah you can get stuck, especially with parkour if you follow the zombie path, but with parkour you should be able to skip most of it and almost just jump to the door!
Feel we are missing potential by still sticking to the 3x3 challenge, but sir I really Iove the efficiency of your bases, once I heard explosives bases were the most efficient ones, but never thought they were THAT efficient, could this be converted into a place where you can live and fend zeds?
I know what you mean about the 3x3, but I like how it forces a different style of build even if they aren't always great (see my dart ladder for an example of not great :D). You could make this a full base for sure - either by going up above the "coffin", off to the side, or even behind it with a little walkway into the back of the coffin.
@@CautiousPancake I would love to see you elaborate on this beyond the challenge of the 3x3. Possibly make it a Horde/main base combo set up and see how that could be done! =)
Should have painted in a FILL line for the pit. For the pit haters, how well does this hold up as a completely above ground with say, ramps or something?
Not great if I'm honest - if you went above ground it would work, but when they break through the wall all the zomibes would fall out and then have to run back up the ramp. You'd have to probably go steel for the walls, and double thickness just in case. If you did that though it would otherwise work just fine - so the concept is ok, just it would be much more expensive up front to build.
That seems to be the most effective 3x3 so far. Grats for that! But why didn't it collapse as soon as the zombies broke one block of each of the eight vertical support pillars? Is it because of the pit depth (natural blocks have lousy horizontal support, but maybe it adds up enough)?
Hi Oktokolo - thanks very happy with how this one went. As for stability - I've added some shots to by insta, and it's fine for the zombies to destroy everything in the pit as long as the top row where the pit joins the ground remains ok. That's what provides the stability upwards once the link down to bedrock is gone. If you were going for a bigger base on top for the coffin, then I'd add more blocks outside the 3x3 down to the ground, preferably also further back from the pit so that they don't tunnel underneath. instagram.com/p/CtC5GZehHD6/?igshid=MmJiY2I4NDBkZg==
@@CautiousPancake I doubt that the top row would be enough - snow has pretty darn low horizontal support 🧐 But thanks for the integrity pics. I am definitely not surprised about all the red.
@@Oktokolo I'm with you- but I checked it too - took the base after horde and knocked out the second from top row all the way around and there was no change to stability! You know how if you go two blocks out from desert or snow everything falls down, I think that this survives because everything is above that row rather than out sideways.
Got a 64 blood moon count day 28 horde night done with this. I don't understand why cops kept spitting at me (or rather the structure), I had no line of sight of them at all, so I did have to keep up with the repairs. With learning elixir this is by far the most insane xp gain. Also I recommend using a turret on the roof if you are doing high blood moon count, the spike traps just simply wasn't enough.
Love it, and agree with the turret approach! The cop spit is likely due to any block other than a full cube they can see through, which is a pain but manageable. The best tip I got from someone was putting electric fences in the pit stops the cop spit, I'll do an updated build for that when I can!
When the cops don't see the player, they still spit in his direction, causing damage to the blocks that cover the player. Even if these blocks are full cubes. Even if they are placed in several layers. Protection is standard. Zombies hit dirt blocks as a last resort when they cannot find their way to the player. Cover the outside of the walls and floor with Top Soil blocks (made from 16 clay). Cops shouldn't spit on such blocks if they don't see the player. Grenades can be dropped without being seen by them.
I'm Quite new, Do you think Explosive Arrow will be fine? I see the Entity Damage = 253 and Block Damage = 5 for the pipe bomb and the arrow Entity Damage = 180 and Block Damage = 2. And on that note does the Archer perk increase the dmg of the explosive ammo, Because I think if it does I might want to try this with Explosive Arrows.
Hey and welcome! Explosive arrows will kill the zombies just fine and are a lot of fun!! The main drawback for arrows is the need for duct tape, which you don't have with pipe bombs. From memory yes the archer perk should up the dmg of the explosive arrows.
I'm under the impression that cops will spit at any walls that aren't full cube blocks in A21 (where this wasn't the case in A20) - I learned this from watching a couple videos on YTer Pseudo Posse's channel. So in the "coffin" area, those walls of plates would basically be constantly puked on by cops, no? Do you have a build of this base that doesn't care about the 3x3 limitation? I'd love to build an effective pit base, very similar to this one, but without any real 'challenge' limitations.
we are 4 players on insane nightmare max difficulty. trying to build this same format in a 5x5. With 2 sides for zombies to fall down instead of one. Getting difficult to understand the mechanic you used to build for the zombies to go up. It is possible on a 5x5 also right ?
Hey ArjKm, yes it should work very much the same at 5x5. That should just give you a bit more space to build bunkers on top as well for 4 people. There's a slightly improved design for the entrance path on this video: ruclips.net/video/F05Od50jnL0/видео.htmlsi=zE5MyoH9x4Vt8tmr&t=556 Essentially the ramp up is outside the 3x3, since the blcoks didn't quite line up with the ground level, and it starts them up the path. Then first block is pole half plane in the low near position, then the next block over is the pole half plate in the high far. This is the key part that drops the zombies. After that - use blocks that ensure each is a step or jump up around the outside of the 3x3 (or 5x5) area, and that there is enough headroom to jump through so the zombies don't get blocked. Hopefully this helps - if not let me know!
I like the floating blocks as it more clearly (I think) shows how the pathing works. If you prefer a more realistic looking build, then add a cube block in the mid row to support the two floating blocks, then replace the second level floading half plates with cube 1/2's that go down to the lip of the pit, then everything is supported. If that's not what you are trying to do, then please let me know.
If there were a door/hatch or something that closed just over the pit before the explosives detonated, would that make the damage more severe? More concussive?
It sure does! Check out my top 5 bases vid if you want to see a summary of when I ran a slightly modified version of it through day 120 on insane difficulty with no issues. ruclips.net/video/F05Od50jnL0/видео.html
@@PatientX989 Cobblestone isn't the best obviously, but what sort of zombies are you up against? If there's rads and demo's then cobble will be a problem - just too weak to take repeated hits.
@@CautiousPancake im at work now , but when i get home ill test it, it will be a day 21 horde in snow biome at 64 zombies. So far i died at day 7 and 14, both because they demolished my base. They really increased the difficulty in the other biomes.
@@CautiousPancake Had a small snafu! My game went corrupt on me and I had to get back to where I was. I rebuilt this same base in the snow biome like before except this time I'm on day 27. will let you know my findings!
It should work fine - I've not fully tested, but all the concepts that drive it haven't changed. My latest video is also the big brother version of this base if you're interested!
Wow. I think this would also be an amazing screamer farm base with the addition of some lit campfires at the bottom. really love this design
That's a great idea! I think you're right - it should work well!
Ahhhh Pancake, I love the way you build these flimsy bases, wind every thing up to 11 and march with undeserved confidence to horde night. Aaaaaand then you pull it off. Then I have to watch the whole thing again and take notes. Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi Oi!
Thanks and keep up the good work.
Thanks Joe!
Outstanding sir. Another base well done.
Thanks Ez :)
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Big applause. Your builds and technics are just perfect.
Been following you since you started. And you get better and better.
I'm onestly copying a lot in my own basedesigns and hordnights are now a easy cup of cake.
Thanks so much
Thanks lichtschatten - that means a lot to me! Really glad the designs are helping in game for you!
I've watched this three times and can't get enough! Your simple but effective designs are great! I especially like the use of different blocks in your builds. Love your channel mate! Keep up the great entertainment!
Thanks T - thanks for your encouragement - keeps me going!
Just when I thought no one could come up with another design you hit it out of the park!
Thanks Karen!
That was great, extremely efficient in terms of ammo usage. I definitely see many ways someone could adapt this for a regular play through base. Well done.
Cheers - definitely going to run this through the base eval framework to test its efficiency .... once A21 comes out and I have to re-do the framework :D
Love this base and your explaining. Built it as soon as I unlock pipe bomb recipe around day17. Then built another one after moving to the snow biome.
Thanks Ashley, it's hard to beat that base and pipe bombs for sure!
So glad i found this! I love this idea. I will be trying this out for my next horde night. Suppose everything will work just the same in 1.0 :)
Thanks Stephanie! And yes all should work the same in 1.0!
Thats gotta be the most efficient base ive seen
Thanks! It certainly feels up there for ease of use and efficiency!
this made a super easy inexpensive base for my current playthrough. mostly wood with a little cobble on day 7, a few pipe bombs and the horde is over. it's nice to kill them all so fast. easy to upgrade for later stages, this is a great design.
Fantastic - thanks pepekraft! Pipe bombs have to be one of the best ammo types if you can get the zombies to cluster!
Dude! This base blew my mind :P! The pit fits all 64 zombies. Then just boom!
Thanks Mark - it was a fun base to play :D
I have just built and used this base on a horde night. Mostly it worked fine except for two major glitches which I don't think are the fault of the base. First...birds attacked the concrete walls of the coffin and at some point two of them glitched through...no actual broken blocks. Worse...again NO broken blocks...I was pushed/glitched through the walls and had to run for my life. Again I think it was the birds so in fact I hope an easy fix (I didn't have any bird traps set but that will change) Mostly this is an awesome base for a player like myself so thank you.
One of the most efficient base methods ive used so far, on day 14 and breezed through it with pipe bombs! 100% bumping to 64 zombies instead of 12
Awesome!
And BANG! The zombies are gone. Another beauty of a base, CP! :)
Thanks!!
Thanks!
Man Zynjnn you are the best!
I love this. This is maybe me being silly but after being at the bottom of the pit to collect loot. With the parkour perk it is so hard to get out of the pit because of those three pole plate halfs. Perhaps I've followed it wrong but did you ever run into this? haha
Edit: Unsure what I was smoking or maybe it was just too dark to see but it's really not an issue... Horde tomorrow, very excited to take it for a spin! Thank you :)
Glad you've worked this one out - and yeah you can get stuck, especially with parkour if you follow the zombie path, but with parkour you should be able to skip most of it and almost just jump to the door!
That is a killer bases , no pun intended
haha thanks PurpleDude!
Nice Trap Design 👍🏾
Cheers - hope this was what you were thinking for a bedrock 3x3!
Feel we are missing potential by still sticking to the 3x3 challenge, but sir I really Iove the efficiency of your bases, once I heard explosives bases were the most efficient ones, but never thought they were THAT efficient, could this be converted into a place where you can live and fend zeds?
I know what you mean about the 3x3, but I like how it forces a different style of build even if they aren't always great (see my dart ladder for an example of not great :D). You could make this a full base for sure - either by going up above the "coffin", off to the side, or even behind it with a little walkway into the back of the coffin.
@@CautiousPancake I would love to see you elaborate on this beyond the challenge of the 3x3. Possibly make it a Horde/main base combo set up and see how that could be done! =)
@@Ekhonaq Thanks Ekhonaq - i'll have a think!
Awesome design
Thankyou!
Should have painted in a FILL line for the pit.
For the pit haters, how well does this hold up as a completely above ground with say, ramps or something?
Not great if I'm honest - if you went above ground it would work, but when they break through the wall all the zomibes would fall out and then have to run back up the ramp. You'd have to probably go steel for the walls, and double thickness just in case. If you did that though it would otherwise work just fine - so the concept is ok, just it would be much more expensive up front to build.
Another great base. Looking forward to A21?
Thanks - and yes - absolutely, can't wait to get into experimental!
That seems to be the most effective 3x3 so far. Grats for that!
But why didn't it collapse as soon as the zombies broke one block of each of the eight vertical support pillars? Is it because of the pit depth (natural blocks have lousy horizontal support, but maybe it adds up enough)?
Hi Oktokolo - thanks very happy with how this one went. As for stability - I've added some shots to by insta, and it's fine for the zombies to destroy everything in the pit as long as the top row where the pit joins the ground remains ok. That's what provides the stability upwards once the link down to bedrock is gone. If you were going for a bigger base on top for the coffin, then I'd add more blocks outside the 3x3 down to the ground, preferably also further back from the pit so that they don't tunnel underneath.
instagram.com/p/CtC5GZehHD6/?igshid=MmJiY2I4NDBkZg==
@@CautiousPancake I doubt that the top row would be enough - snow has pretty darn low horizontal support 🧐 But thanks for the integrity pics. I am definitely not surprised about all the red.
@@Oktokolo I'm with you- but I checked it too - took the base after horde and knocked out the second from top row all the way around and there was no change to stability! You know how if you go two blocks out from desert or snow everything falls down, I think that this survives because everything is above that row rather than out sideways.
@@CautiousPancake Looks like you found another bug allowing to cheat the integrity system then. Wonder what else it could be used for.
Nice build!
Thanks Sam!
Got a 64 blood moon count day 28 horde night done with this. I don't understand why cops kept spitting at me (or rather the structure), I had no line of sight of them at all, so I did have to keep up with the repairs. With learning elixir this is by far the most insane xp gain. Also I recommend using a turret on the roof if you are doing high blood moon count, the spike traps just simply wasn't enough.
Love it, and agree with the turret approach! The cop spit is likely due to any block other than a full cube they can see through, which is a pain but manageable. The best tip I got from someone was putting electric fences in the pit stops the cop spit, I'll do an updated build for that when I can!
When the cops don't see the player, they still spit in his direction, causing damage to the blocks that cover the player. Even if these blocks are full cubes. Even if they are placed in several layers. Protection is standard. Zombies hit dirt blocks as a last resort when they cannot find their way to the player.
Cover the outside of the walls and floor with Top Soil blocks (made from 16 clay). Cops shouldn't spit on such blocks if they don't see the player. Grenades can be dropped without being seen by them.
I'm Quite new,
Do you think Explosive Arrow will be fine?
I see the Entity Damage = 253 and Block Damage = 5 for the pipe bomb and the arrow Entity Damage = 180 and Block Damage = 2.
And on that note does the Archer perk increase the dmg of the explosive ammo, Because I think if it does I might want to try this with Explosive Arrows.
Hey and welcome! Explosive arrows will kill the zombies just fine and are a lot of fun!! The main drawback for arrows is the need for duct tape, which you don't have with pipe bombs. From memory yes the archer perk should up the dmg of the explosive arrows.
Fun
I'm under the impression that cops will spit at any walls that aren't full cube blocks in A21 (where this wasn't the case in A20) - I learned this from watching a couple videos on YTer Pseudo Posse's channel. So in the "coffin" area, those walls of plates would basically be constantly puked on by cops, no?
Do you have a build of this base that doesn't care about the 3x3 limitation? I'd love to build an effective pit base, very similar to this one, but without any real 'challenge' limitations.
Seriously, do you have access to my notes? 🤔😀 A couple of builds coming along these lines!
Nice base, but I fallen in my own firehole
Lots of explosions from cops?
@@CautiousPancakenope, it was just misstep
we are 4 players on insane nightmare max difficulty. trying to build this same format in a 5x5. With 2 sides for zombies to fall down instead of one. Getting difficult to understand the mechanic you used to build for the zombies to go up. It is possible on a 5x5 also right ?
Hey ArjKm, yes it should work very much the same at 5x5. That should just give you a bit more space to build bunkers on top as well for 4 people.
There's a slightly improved design for the entrance path on this video: ruclips.net/video/F05Od50jnL0/видео.htmlsi=zE5MyoH9x4Vt8tmr&t=556
Essentially the ramp up is outside the 3x3, since the blcoks didn't quite line up with the ground level, and it starts them up the path. Then first block is pole half plane in the low near position, then the next block over is the pole half plate in the high far. This is the key part that drops the zombies. After that - use blocks that ensure each is a step or jump up around the outside of the 3x3 (or 5x5) area, and that there is enough headroom to jump through so the zombies don't get blocked.
Hopefully this helps - if not let me know!
And if there are no floating blocks?
I like the floating blocks as it more clearly (I think) shows how the pathing works. If you prefer a more realistic looking build, then add a cube block in the mid row to support the two floating blocks, then replace the second level floading half plates with cube 1/2's that go down to the lip of the pit, then everything is supported. If that's not what you are trying to do, then please let me know.
If there were a door/hatch or something that closed just over the pit before the explosives detonated, would that make the damage more severe? More concussive?
That would be very cool, but I'm not aware that anything in 7Days works like that in game.
@@CautiousPancake Ah well. I'm just the ideas guy. 😀
@@HopAlongCass 😂😂
Heyo, is this base still actively working?
Hey, sure is!
Do you think the base would work for a over dsy 50 A21 base?
It sure does! Check out my top 5 bases vid if you want to see a summary of when I ran a slightly modified version of it through day 120 on insane difficulty with no issues. ruclips.net/video/F05Od50jnL0/видео.html
If you can only make cobblestone, would this still work or would you just blow yourself up?@@CautiousPancake
@@PatientX989 Cobblestone isn't the best obviously, but what sort of zombies are you up against? If there's rads and demo's then cobble will be a problem - just too weak to take repeated hits.
we hadnt seen cops yet, now we have them but we progressed to tungsten so, all good, very good base design! @@CautiousPancake
@@PatientX989Great to hear it's working well for you, thanks!
Ok Pancake, I got this thing built in the snow biome on Alpha 21. Will report the result!
Oooh nice - I really like that base, so hopefully it works well!
@@CautiousPancake im at work now , but when i get home ill test it, it will be a day 21 horde in snow biome at 64 zombies. So far i died at day 7 and 14, both because they demolished my base. They really increased the difficulty in the other biomes.
@@purpledude5526 Yeah the new gamestage calculation makes it fun if you venture to other biomes early on!
@@CautiousPancake Had a small snafu! My game went corrupt on me and I had to get back to where I was. I rebuilt this same base in the snow biome like before except this time I'm on day 27. will let you know my findings!
@@purpledude5526 All good mate - there is a bit of that going around at the moment!
Does anyone know if this still works for version 1?
It should work fine - I've not fully tested, but all the concepts that drive it haven't changed. My latest video is also the big brother version of this base if you're interested!
This still work on alpha 21?
Sure does - just ranked it #1 in my "top 5 horde bases" video too :)
Thanks 😊
too easy mate, you knocked this one out of the park!
Thanks KZ!