Tbf halo 4 released as a full game just it was baisically cod with a halo skin. Halo 5 was released kinda like infinite, good gameplay (terrible campaign though) but they actually rolled out updates and content really quickly and it released with way more content then infinite did. However infinite was technically a full game sorta, it had multiplayer and campaign. But it didn’t have split screen or co-op campaign and it had a ton of false promises. They said the game would release with a ton of stuff that it didn’t release with. And it either didn’t get it at all or the content they promised came like a year and a half later.
@@Danny344S it look great wdym? It just needs a bit more Halo stylization. Infinite looked great too but the lighting on the Slipspace engine held it back.
@@drago2689 the infinite lighting on the visors etc looked bad halo 3 had the best lighting imo reach had the best realism for the artstyle it all flowed evenly and had lots of small details also the armor in infinite with shoulders looked goofy floating etc
No no no, Slipspace Engine was a big pain in the ass for the development team. To save money, the engine was made by external contractors, "hired" for a limited period, so when it was finished, the stable Halo development team had no idea how the engine worked. And the contractors were gone, so basically no one knew how the engine worked. And boy, it worked badly. Even with the 1-year delay of the game, the game lookls good but you can feel that the development was painful. Somehow when you play the game, you can see and feel the little things that are off, showing the Slipspace Engine was terribly designed.
@marklastname1993 they literally did. apparently they are saying they fired some higher up people and changed a lot of development processes and are actually trying to focus on making the game better and bringing back what halo used to be. I'm not gonna sit here and glaze them, acting like they WILL actually do this. but this is straight from what they said themselves.
2:11 these shots look similar to the first infinite reveal trailer where it was only environments, it showed snow and different weathers that never actually existed in infinite. Don't have hope unless they actually have something to show
@@Jared-Jones glad someone else sees this too. It’s quite literally just a tech demo again and just like over the past ten years people are losing their minds over absolutely nothing.
To be fair ue5 is FAR better suited for faster world creation than the infinity.. these landscapes and all could be completed faster by miles than the infinity engine leaving more creative time.. or sooner release dates. Let's hope the community doesn't get impatient and kill the game again
Yeah exactly. This wouldn't be the first time Halo devs showed a gorgeous graphics display that looked absolutely nothing like what we actually got. I wont believe anything I see until I'm playing the actual game.
@@gtrblackhawk iirc halo 4 was supposed to have all this cqc stuff remember? Like the combat was supposedly very advanced and dynamic- I thoroughly remember the hype pre h4 and then all we got was ground pound and shoulder charge like wtf happened lmao Halo should have it’s og speed/pace of gameplay, with new additions. Why tf are we making players relearn the same thing over and over and over; from subtle changes like bloom and ttk to larger changes like art design and player movement. Just keep the base frame of halo, and add- not take away lmao When you return to halo there should be this raw feel akin to the prior games. Not a totally remodelled from scratch experience that ditches almost if not all pre established limitations and abilities. Replacements can be necessary. But they quite literally change everything. Cause it’s easier to remake new cheap stuff than try to carefully carve out a replica of what should be based on what was Look at the phantom in infinite; “well it’s banished” that’s not an excuse. The degradation of both quality and art design is vividly noticeable stop coping ✋
@@KidGreeD14 this is a good thing, it shows they acknowledge their shortcomings. Same cannot be said for countless other gaming companies like Ubisoft for example
@@KidGreeD14It's highly unlikely it will be a mess like Infinite. UE5 is a pretty standard development software that most Dev's use when they are starting off. It's significantly easier to master it and competently build games on it (because it has engine support by EPIC) than "Slipspace" was because that engine was a hodge podge of existing Halo structure and whatever code and building blocks and of the hundreds of contractors put into it, effectively making it almost impossible to fix. They'd have to fuck up something pretty bad to do the same on UE5. The only thing most people aren't taking into account, is that the "Halo feel" might be gone as code used by Bungie will likely be scrapped.
@samsonite187 better yet, hire mofos that have actually PLAYED and completed the games and or make it MANDATORY that everyone has to sit down and complete all the games
@@santana05d fun fact, a lot of previous bungie employees still work at 343 as head positions, and a lot of people who work their now have had their entire childhoods to play the games. They had potential, just poor management and Microsoft breathing down their backs. Looks like they’re changing pace
@@SovettaParmetta Yeah, they had people who ran the god damn community hubs in senior franchise leadership positions. Look how great the last 3 games turned out as a result + the abomination TV shows.
@@SovettaParmetta That's been being said since H4 & that isn't true. Very few OG Bungie employees are there.(No telling how many of those who stayed are even still there)
Majority of those people are undeveloped brains that are not allowed to make decisions for themselves yet. Which insane to regard as valid opinions when it comes to representing a product to a mass market. This company is stupid and MS needs to shut them down.
@@tasnifrahman2486 "stabbed in the back" is a common expression, its not meant literally. Also videogames are an important part of peoples lives, just how music and other forms of media are, and considering the fact the company aims to sell the product, its reasonable to keep them accountable at least personally. If u dont care about the franchise enough to do that then leave those who do care to do as they please.
@@isimioyekunlemarktaiwo3643 u dont have the power to control anyone, fuck 343 industries and their lies. The fact that u think my opinion needs controlling for calling 343 out on their lies and repeated behaviour tells me u got 343's balls so deep down ur throat that u cant swallow any amount of truth thrown at u.
This is the last hop, the last stand, the very last chance to bring back Halo to life. To do so, they have to remake Halo Reach / 1 / 2 / ODST and 3. They have to bring back Halo to new Gen Z and more to make it back as a popular video game.
It's a good game please stop with the nonsense. Years behind who? Destiny? Oh yeah that's in a really great place right now Who else? Division? All these games have their own player bases and areas. The narrative that Halo infinite isn't doing well or wasn't doing well as a complete lie. They stumbled out the gate and got their footing just like a thousand other games out here. Now you got people lying saying the campaign wasn't good. People just lying lying lying.
@@raymondjoannette8052 stupid idea. They got a remake old games to bring it back to being on top? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 The only game that deserves a remake based on when it came out is odst. But a straightforward remake it doesn't need to be modernized and yada yada yada.. it's always been good for what it is. If you want to play a HD version of Halo 2 you can do that right now. Why the hell would they three sources on games they literally been working on for 10 years in terms of updates. Some of you guys really need to stop by your far behind because you're not game developers you have no idea how the sources made but you got a lot of stupid ideas. Halo players are so busy being stuck on the amazingness of the early days that they can't see past it and that's what screws up halo. Everybody wanted Halo 1 in Halo 5 so in Halo 5 doesn't move the needle forward they say that the middle hasn't been moved forward. Every single Halo that introduced new stuff and actually different weapons from the old peashooters that was in every game, players revolted against that..halo gamers don't know what the hell they want but they sure got a lot of stupid ideas 😂
@@AllCarNeedsthe gameplay loop of halo infinites multiplayer is objectively the most superior when in comparison to other games. Anyone saying bungie multiplayer was better is coping/high on nostalgia
@@OrionDawn15 definitely didn’t watch the same video. If that were the case they would’ve just showed graphics and nothing else. They specified that they are essentially restarting the way they make and update their halo games, hence the rebranding. That is the main point of the video. The graphics are just a plus.
This new studio should force all of their employees to read the books and have a weekly mandatory book club discussion. This is the secret ingredient that has been missing. Also simple gameplay. We don’t want esports.
As ridiculous as it sounds that actually might be the only thing that could work. Make every new recruit complete the LASO gauntlet, read every book and watch every promotion from the Bungie era.
They were so close to touching on what really has been lacking in Halo. Sure the old Halo Games were great looking but what made them beloved was the stories and characters. Halo can look impressive but please prioritize the story and storytelling.
Feel like the OG Bungie making OG Halo were more focused on making a fun game first and foremost before anything else. When Daniel says that the OG Halo franchise was a, "graphics showcase," that kind of thing makes it sound like they still don't know what made the OG Halos special.
Looks fancy and all but the industry has reached a point where you're not gonna win over gamers with shiny graphics anymore cause all games look more or less the same visually and its getting too expensive to push graphics even further when the return is minimal. Time to look for innovative gameplay mechanics and ideas instead if you want your game to survive, at least Nintendo realized this many years ago.
@@mikeuk66 they do, no matter what they do they will receive hate, even from most who will never even touch the game (because they only own PlayStation). The games look vastly different from one another, this is a huge step in the right direction because they’re dropping the cartoonish aspect of their art design
@@SovettaParmetta The graphics were never a reason people didn't enjoy a 343i made halo game. It's every other aspect of creating and balancing a game that they were unable to accomplish in the last decade
Honestly this video means fuck all right now. We talking over a decade of mistakes that need to be corrected, so until they do that then take this with a grain of salt.
@@cocopuff239 They need to sell the game to classic Halo fans first and foremost, because those are the players who will force feed Halo down people's throats (AKA myself) when we get a proper Halo release.
@@cocopuff239very little parents truly care and even then you can buy the game online by making an Xbox account that makes the game think the buyer is 18, and cod gets hella sales
@@iLegionaire3755 if there's any indication to that they haven't made a game for halo fans since they made the master chief collection. Every halo game in recent history hasn't been rated M, it's a pipe dream to think we'd get a rated M game. But let's hope
People don’t understand that this isn’t just about graphics. This is about performance and production. The games will be run on an engine that the studio can spend less time working on to make actually useable and more time just throwing content into. A huge problem for the studio with Slipspace is that their upgrades to Slipspace required every contracted employee to spend a lot of time learning the completely unique engine. Now they can hire people already fairly experienced with UE5 and speed production along. Maintenance will also be easier for the game because everyone has years of experience in fixing UE issues.
You clearly don't understand the showcase. The team is different, the software and engine is different, and even the upper management is different. 343 is gone, which is what the fans wanted since 4
@@christianvazquez2587 Halo Franchise died with Noble 6 at Reach. Since then, 343 has driven Halo through a dumpster. And yes they may go through a round of infinite rebrandings, but Halo fans from Bungie days can't care less. Halo is dead period.
Nice coat of paint, any plans to bring back the good stuff: Like massive sandbox (Weapons & vehicles etc) and assassinations, the flood? Firefight and forge at launch? More returning characters to the story...? Do this you might win our hearts again. P.S *M* For mature! Halo CE was at points a sci-fi horror, don't forget its roots!
Halo NEEDS to be terrifying again. We have had a diluted generic scifi shooter for over a decade. Making Halo games for a "wider audience" has only made it boring and safe.
Probably it wont come back, but the connection the first halo had with the marathon games was another amazing detail they unfortunately didn't continue, hope they can do something with that
its different now. Unreal Engine, wont hold back the game like the old engine, remember the old engine couldn't hold dynamic objects when they released infinite. that's how bad the engine was at the start
They aren't showcasing a game here. This was a showcase of a UE5 brainstorming session where they hashed out gameplay fundamentals and assets for future Halo games.
@kri1ndawn440 Microsoft hiring policies forced 343 to lean on contractors with something like a max of 18 months of employment. A revolving door with proprietary tools is a recipe for disaster, as you loose finite months to upskill new talent before they can effectively do their job. Obviously 343 couldn't change Microsofts hiring practices, but by transitioning to Unreal you can hire people off the street that have immediate familiarity to your studios tools.
5:04 "Imagine a place where you have the commitment that this is what we wanna do... Halo games.. and create those experiences" Oh phew, good thing they've finally cracked the formula after all these years.
All of this talk about graphics and gameplay being what will save halo. It was the Story and the Score that really built the universe and both seem to be lacking in this "tech demo halo". Bring back Marty!!
Omg, I’m so excited to get more mid 343 slop in beautiful unreal engine 5 🔥🔥🔥 You guys already killed all your goodwill, the fans no longer have faith in 343 even if you rebrand. Give the IP to a real studio with competent leadership and permanent employees lol.
@dio3321 it is a bit more than that, having to make a brand new Engine and make all your employees have to spend the majority of their time learning that instead of just actually making the game isn't really efficient. but if you can hire a bunch new people because they already know how to use Unreal... then think of how much easier it will be to make the actual game.
Just make sure to focus on the story, soundtrack, and characterization. Thats what put the trilogy up there with Half-Life as far as FPS stories go, maybe even more so.
It kind of was. Halo was the reason people bought an xbox after seeing the trailer alone. The trailer for Halo is a big reason for the success of the xbox. We had ps1 graphics before ps2 and xbox. So Halo kind of looked fecking awesome back then.
yes it was, the original “halo” was an xbox showcase as a RTS game. it then was reworked massively and released as a fps under the name halo combat evolved. YOU Learn halo’s history.
@@0yal569 1. you’re referring to an unreleased prototype of the first game, not the original franchise, and 2. you said it yourself: that prototype was an Xbox showcase NOT a graphical one🤦🏽♂️
Now re-release Master Chief collection in unreal engine. I'm sure others would buy it again. I definitely would. Bethesda kinda did it, but you can't do it better. >:0
@@Spillow-C It was. People act like Infinite was awful cuz the multiplayer was completely undercooked at launch, but the campaign was decent and the story was alright. Much better than 4/5.
"If you somehow believe that what you're doing is the greatest thing ever all the time, it's absolutely not gonna be the greatest thing ever." - Jason Jones, Co-Founder of Bungie
@@bleepbloop7039 it’s not really a matter of specs, it’s well documented that unreal engine can lead to stutters even on high end hardware due to its intense shader compilation
343i rebranding into Halo Studios is just amazing, and as a long-time Halo Player since 2001, I'm really excited and looking forward to a new Halo Game running on Unreal Engine 5 😊 I hope Halo Studios adds content that was cut from previous Halo Games to the new Halo Game 👍🏽 It really is a New Dawn 🌅
yes, but its better than 343, which is the the name of a villain character which literally betrays Chief and even kills a fan-favourite character. Not much different than what they did with us and the saga tho... so now they are reedeming themselves
it's amazing how Halo looks so good in unreal engine 5. and it's also worth mentioning the new direction the studio is taking, let's hope they can achieve great thin.
2:42 These devs clearly don't know the IP they're working with. Halo was never meant to look like Earth. It resembled it in geography and flora, but the atmosphere was always a bit off. Different.
He's not lying though, the old school classic environments in Halo were based on the PNW. Bungie is from Washington. Last time I checked, Zanzibar and New Mombasa are both on earth lol..
- Don't even put a store in the game. - Make it so we 1. Start the game. 2. Go to battle. It's so annoying having to close 5 to 10 announcements in games these days before we can play. - Make it rated M again. Kids can't even afford paying without their parents. Make a Systems you can continue expanding and adding chapters. If you make a good game, we will continue playing and buying. I still play Halo 1, 2, 3, and Halo Wars. - Hire writers - Hire fans that love the franchise.
How to make a solid Halo game
Step 1: Don't release an unfinished game for the 3rd time in a row
Don't forget coop
Tbf halo 4 released as a full game just it was baisically cod with a halo skin. Halo 5 was released kinda like infinite, good gameplay (terrible campaign though) but they actually rolled out updates and content really quickly and it released with way more content then infinite did. However infinite was technically a full game sorta, it had multiplayer and campaign. But it didn’t have split screen or co-op campaign and it had a ton of false promises. They said the game would release with a ton of stuff that it didn’t release with. And it either didn’t get it at all or the content they promised came like a year and a half later.
You forgot one thing ivan...
BRING BACK MARTIN O'DONNELL
Halo 5...unfinished? Give me a break.
@@grid9521 halo 5 was unfinished when it came out 🤨 it took 3+ months for forge to come out
Graphics look cool but it has to be the story and gameplay that really makes it breaks it for me
exactly, great graphics are cool and all but the last 3 343 campaigns have been completely bland and forgettable
@@TrashK1ngg this is a new studio, read the description.
It’s not that great looking infinite didn’t look good either it needs to feel and look like reach with the realistic grit
@@Danny344S it look great wdym? It just needs a bit more Halo stylization. Infinite looked great too but the lighting on the Slipspace engine held it back.
@@drago2689 the infinite lighting on the visors etc looked bad halo 3 had the best lighting imo reach had the best realism for the artstyle it all flowed evenly and had lots of small details also the armor in infinite with shoulders looked goofy floating etc
It doesn't matter, technology was never the problem, it's the people and management.
Now they don't have to spend so much time making the game engine, they won't have the constant setbacks of the Slipspace engine.
@@JerryBear712 Which they have changed
No no no, Slipspace Engine was a big pain in the ass for the development team. To save money, the engine was made by external contractors, "hired" for a limited period, so when it was finished, the stable Halo development team had no idea how the engine worked. And the contractors were gone, so basically no one knew how the engine worked. And boy, it worked badly. Even with the 1-year delay of the game, the game lookls good but you can feel that the development was painful. Somehow when you play the game, you can see and feel the little things that are off, showing the Slipspace Engine was terribly designed.
@marklastname1993 they literally did. apparently they are saying they fired some higher up people and changed a lot of development processes and are actually trying to focus on making the game better and bringing back what halo used to be. I'm not gonna sit here and glaze them, acting like they WILL actually do this. but this is straight from what they said themselves.
Im reposting this as another comment, Halo 1 stills looks amazin and the story was 10/10
2:11 these shots look similar to the first infinite reveal trailer where it was only environments, it showed snow and different weathers that never actually existed in infinite. Don't have hope unless they actually have something to show
@@Jared-Jones glad someone else sees this too. It’s quite literally just a tech demo again and just like over the past ten years people are losing their minds over absolutely nothing.
@Jared-Jones it's exactly same ones
To be fair ue5 is FAR better suited for faster world creation than the infinity.. these landscapes and all could be completed faster by miles than the infinity engine leaving more creative time.. or sooner release dates. Let's hope the community doesn't get impatient and kill the game again
Yeah exactly. This wouldn't be the first time Halo devs showed a gorgeous graphics display that looked absolutely nothing like what we actually got. I wont believe anything I see until I'm playing the actual game.
@@gtrblackhawk iirc halo 4 was supposed to have all this cqc stuff remember? Like the combat was supposedly very advanced and dynamic- I thoroughly remember the hype pre h4 and then all we got was ground pound and shoulder charge like wtf happened lmao
Halo should have it’s og speed/pace of gameplay, with new additions.
Why tf are we making players relearn the same thing over and over and over; from subtle changes like bloom and ttk to larger changes like art design and player movement. Just keep the base frame of halo, and add- not take away lmao
When you return to halo there should be this raw feel akin to the prior games. Not a totally remodelled from scratch experience that ditches almost if not all pre established limitations and abilities. Replacements can be necessary. But they quite literally change everything.
Cause it’s easier to remake new cheap stuff than try to carefully carve out a replica of what should be based on what was
Look at the phantom in infinite; “well it’s banished” that’s not an excuse. The degradation of both quality and art design is vividly noticeable stop coping ✋
Everyone acting like this some huge change, it’s still the same freaking company just changing names.
Wish they’d just let another studio take over.
Research the layoffs and restructuring the past year
There’s been like a whole new company brought in with the amount of replacements they’ve done, halo has basically been given to a new company
The move from the slipspace engine is big. It was the main reason it took so long to get minor updates with infinite.
@@GazingTrandoshanresearch the chief of staff. All hope is gone.
They fired top guys from 343, it is effectively a different company that is changing the direction of this current franchise around
to sum it the 343 name has been damaged so much that they had to rename.
Also the UE5 is much easier to work with than what they were working with previously, so pushing fixes and whatnot should be easier for them too.
@@OrionDawn15 I'll take your word for it but if the next halo is a huge mess like infinite it will be my last halo.
@@KidGreeD14 this is a good thing, it shows they acknowledge their shortcomings. Same cannot be said for countless other gaming companies like Ubisoft for example
@@SovettaParmetta they said that with infinite though and it's practically dead now
@@KidGreeD14It's highly unlikely it will be a mess like Infinite. UE5 is a pretty standard development software that most Dev's use when they are starting off. It's significantly easier to master it and competently build games on it (because it has engine support by EPIC) than "Slipspace" was because that engine was a hodge podge of existing Halo structure and whatever code and building blocks and of the hundreds of contractors put into it, effectively making it almost impossible to fix. They'd have to fuck up something pretty bad to do the same on UE5. The only thing most people aren't taking into account, is that the "Halo feel" might be gone as code used by Bungie will likely be scrapped.
Hire story writers for Christ sake.
Yup. Infinite was such a snooze fest imo. Nothing will ever beat the story of when the covenant was intact and involved
@@nitolinilo9034 yeap agreed.
They can probably make prequels for now
those B hate christ so
@samsonite187 better yet, hire mofos that have actually PLAYED and completed the games and or make it MANDATORY that everyone has to sit down and complete all the games
"what made Halo special?"
pre Destiny Bungie.
@@santana05d fun fact, a lot of previous bungie employees still work at 343 as head positions, and a lot of people who work their now have had their entire childhoods to play the games. They had potential, just poor management and Microsoft breathing down their backs. Looks like they’re changing pace
@@SovettaParmetta Yeah, they had people who ran the god damn community hubs in senior franchise leadership positions. Look how great the last 3 games turned out as a result + the abomination TV shows.
@@SovettaParmetta Hey that's really cool. Where did all the devs that mattered actually go?
@@SovettaParmettaThat is incorrect
@@SovettaParmetta That's been being said since H4 & that isn't true. Very few OG Bungie employees are there.(No telling how many of those who stayed are even still there)
People are too quick to trust those who lied and stabbed them in the back multiple times.
Majority of those people are undeveloped brains that are not allowed to make decisions for themselves yet.
Which insane to regard as valid opinions when it comes to representing a product to a mass market.
This company is stupid and MS needs to shut them down.
@@coldnoodles2951 calm down, it's a videogame.
@@tasnifrahman2486 "stabbed in the back" is a common expression, its not meant literally.
Also videogames are an important part of peoples lives, just how music and other forms of media are, and considering the fact the company aims to sell the product, its reasonable to keep them accountable at least personally.
If u dont care about the franchise enough to do that then leave those who do care to do as they please.
@@coldnoodles2951 nah he is right, you people need to calm down..the sentiment needs to be controlled.
@@isimioyekunlemarktaiwo3643 u dont have the power to control anyone, fuck 343 industries and their lies.
The fact that u think my opinion needs controlling for calling 343 out on their lies and repeated behaviour tells me u got 343's balls so deep down ur throat that u cant swallow any amount of truth thrown at u.
The chief of staff’s hair is the biggest red flag lmao
Lol yep
Halo used the be THE game. Feels like they've been a few yrs behind everyone else for a while now. Hopefully they can bring it back.
This is the last hop, the last stand, the very last chance to bring back Halo to life. To do so, they have to remake Halo Reach / 1 / 2 / ODST and 3. They have to bring back Halo to new Gen Z and more to make it back as a popular video game.
Gen Z only play souls like game now or fortnite or cod and that the truth...
It's a good game please stop with the nonsense. Years behind who? Destiny? Oh yeah that's in a really great place right now
Who else? Division? All these games have their own player bases and areas. The narrative that Halo infinite isn't doing well or wasn't doing well as a complete lie. They stumbled out the gate and got their footing just like a thousand other games out here. Now you got people lying saying the campaign wasn't good. People just lying lying lying.
@@raymondjoannette8052 another halo remake will be stupid af. Why not jist make another good game? All these remakes arw dumb.
@@raymondjoannette8052 stupid idea. They got a remake old games to bring it back to being on top? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 The only game that deserves a remake based on when it came out is odst. But a straightforward remake it doesn't need to be modernized and yada yada yada.. it's always been good for what it is.
If you want to play a HD version of Halo 2 you can do that right now. Why the hell would they three sources on games they literally been working on for 10 years in terms of updates.
Some of you guys really need to stop by your far behind because you're not game developers you have no idea how the sources made but you got a lot of stupid ideas. Halo players are so busy being stuck on the amazingness of the early days that they can't see past it and that's what screws up halo. Everybody wanted Halo 1 in Halo 5 so in Halo 5 doesn't move the needle forward they say that the middle hasn't been moved forward. Every single Halo that introduced new stuff and actually different weapons from the old peashooters that was in every game, players revolted against that..halo gamers don't know what the hell they want but they sure got a lot of stupid ideas 😂
graphics < gameplay
They already got that down. Halo infinite gameplay is perfect
@@Sleepylevi no it’s not the open world vibe ain’t it for halo. It doesn’t fit the theme. It just isnt
Graphics greater than gameplay
@@AllCarNeedsthe gameplay loop of halo infinites multiplayer is objectively the most superior when in comparison to other games. Anyone saying bungie multiplayer was better is coping/high on nostalgia
@@bro3217why and how is it better?
Hey man Halo is a lil more than shiny landscapes
It’s also about micro transactions
it’s like you didn’t even watch the video
@@ditroxys We all watched the video and the whole point of the trailer is to show that Halo's moving to a new engine, that's literally it lol
Project: Foundry is the first stepd of Halos new era. It would bring a terrible idea to start making a new game as their first project (Halo 4)
@@OrionDawn15 definitely didn’t watch the same video. If that were the case they would’ve just showed graphics and nothing else. They specified that they are essentially restarting the way they make and update their halo games, hence the rebranding. That is the main point of the video. The graphics are just a plus.
Cant help but notice the diversity in the dev team
You know what that means….
@@TheDrugFreeThrasher unfortunately yes🤧
holy shit. if you actually watch the video you see that 95% of the dev team are white dudes. but sure thing. "whamen bad".
This new studio should force all of their employees to read the books and have a weekly mandatory book club discussion. This is the secret ingredient that has been missing.
Also simple gameplay. We don’t want esports.
If there's mandatory book club, there should be mandatory Bungie Halo lan parties.
As ridiculous as it sounds that actually might be the only thing that could work.
Make every new recruit complete the LASO gauntlet, read every book and watch every promotion from the Bungie era.
They were so close to touching on what really has been lacking in Halo. Sure the old Halo Games were great looking but what made them beloved was the stories and characters. Halo can look impressive but please prioritize the story and storytelling.
In infinite they prioritize nothing ... graphics were worse than og games and story was flat
H3 is never coming back. 2007 is over. Move on with your life please
@@BedroomBullI bet you’re having fun with suicide squad.
@@BedroomBullWhat are you even yapping about?
@@ussygussytv9426 Halo 2 had terrible story and Halo CE has huge inconsistencies so Idk what you're talking about
Feel like the OG Bungie making OG Halo were more focused on making a fun game first and foremost before anything else. When Daniel says that the OG Halo franchise was a, "graphics showcase," that kind of thing makes it sound like they still don't know what made the OG Halos special.
@@Cosmicninja747 exactly, halo was always about that fun factor, not graphics
@@Cosmicninja747 nah fr this the type of talk that’s associated with gears of war most the time
@@Cosmicninja747 it was a graphics showcase, that was just a piece of it. He didn’t say it was solely meant as a graphics showcase
Watch the crowbcat video on it
CE was considered super stunning when it first came out so this is pretty wrong
Looks fancy and all but the industry has reached a point where you're not gonna win over gamers with shiny graphics anymore cause all games look more or less the same visually and its getting too expensive to push graphics even further when the return is minimal. Time to look for innovative gameplay mechanics and ideas instead if you want your game to survive, at least Nintendo realized this many years ago.
Yup. Art direction matters so much more these days.
@@mikeuk66 they do, no matter what they do they will receive hate, even from most who will never even touch the game (because they only own PlayStation). The games look vastly different from one another, this is a huge step in the right direction because they’re dropping the cartoonish aspect of their art design
You’re trying too hard to sound intellectual. Nothing you said is rocket science. Shiny graphics never hurt if there’s still passion for gameplay.
@@SovettaParmetta The graphics were never a reason people didn't enjoy a 343i made halo game. It's every other aspect of creating and balancing a game that they were unable to accomplish in the last decade
@SovettaParmetta ? The cartoonist aspect is what gives halo its identity
You destroyed my childhood and wore its skin to take my money. I'm not falling for it again
100% bro, naming themselves "343" or "Halo studio" like a damn skinwalker
Grow old man, you're old enough to say that "they destroyed your childhood"
They're just video games
If Halo was your childhood you just needed better parents lmao
Honestly this video means fuck all right now. We talking over a decade of mistakes that need to be corrected, so until they do that then take this with a grain of salt.
I"m certain these people will not save Halo.
Bungie was the only company that could do halo right
They are the exact same people as 343, they just changed the name of the company.
@@ReaIBreaker well the people who worked for pre destiny bungie need to come back cause it seems like it’s these new devs are not doin it right
@@TLATL2009 Bungie is not coming back, Halo is dead and these people killed it.
It's sad, but true.
They’re the ones who destroyed it, they won’t save it.
RATED M. Please
As much as I'd like that don't get ur hopes up. They gotta sell the game to the masses
@@cocopuff239 They need to sell the game to classic Halo fans first and foremost, because those are the players who will force feed Halo down people's throats (AKA myself) when we get a proper Halo release.
@@cocopuff239 Yeah like GTA6...oh wait...
@@cocopuff239very little parents truly care and even then you can buy the game online by making an Xbox account that makes the game think the buyer is 18, and cod gets hella sales
@@iLegionaire3755 if there's any indication to that they haven't made a game for halo fans since they made the master chief collection.
Every halo game in recent history hasn't been rated M, it's a pipe dream to think we'd get a rated M game. But let's hope
People don’t understand that this isn’t just about graphics. This is about performance and production. The games will be run on an engine that the studio can spend less time working on to make actually useable and more time just throwing content into. A huge problem for the studio with Slipspace is that their upgrades to Slipspace required every contracted employee to spend a lot of time learning the completely unique engine. Now they can hire people already fairly experienced with UE5 and speed production along. Maintenance will also be easier for the game because everyone has years of experience in fixing UE issues.
What no? You could not be more wrong.
@@InlandEmpire011 ex 343 devs have literally said this exact thing lmao why are you talking out of your ass
@@InlandEmpire011 He's right
@@InlandEmpire011 your wrong actually that is the reason they are moving over
So why have games regressed so much
Lol @ the management. They're def gonna have Master Chief kiss a guy in the next game
Sounds like soulless corporate communication.
That's a long video just to say they're switching to unreal engine
That’s not all they said.
Video is all of like 6 and a half minutes💀
@marklastname1993 AAA game studios shouldn't make their own engines, they should make games.
Fans: 343 Halo sucks.
343: wanna see it suck in HD?
LMAO
You clearly don't understand the showcase. The team is different, the software and engine is different, and even the upper management is different. 343 is gone, which is what the fans wanted since 4
@@christianvazquez2587 that’s not true. Hundreds of staff most are still females who are not gamers and don’t know fuck all about Halo.
@@christianvazquez2587 Halo Franchise died with Noble 6 at Reach. Since then, 343 has driven Halo through a dumpster. And yes they may go through a round of infinite rebrandings, but Halo fans from Bungie days can't care less. Halo is dead period.
@@christianvazquez2587bro it’s been 10 years why would anybody believe in them 😂 we getting old waiting
Nice coat of paint, any plans to bring back the good stuff:
Like massive sandbox (Weapons & vehicles etc) and assassinations, the flood?
Firefight and forge at launch?
More returning characters to the story...?
Do this you might win our hearts again.
P.S *M* For mature! Halo CE was at points a sci-fi horror, don't forget its roots!
It's easier to work on and established engine rather than maintaining a poorly made one
@@paulomoralescornejo1612 well they should knock it out the park then!
Well said.
Halo NEEDS to be terrifying again. We have had a diluted generic scifi shooter for over a decade. Making Halo games for a "wider audience" has only made it boring and safe.
Probably it wont come back, but the connection the first halo had with the marathon games was another amazing detail they unfortunately didn't continue, hope they can do something with that
5:18 this is the chief of staff. Halo is cooked already bros
Guaranteed
They never learn
So 343 wants to escape their tarnished name and an engine they built that they have no idea how to use
Half the studio left to make destiny though?
Wants to? They did.
Yup so they jump to Unreal Engine 5 that is even more hot trash then the one they left🤣🤣🤣
It was a pretty dumb name to begin with. 343? You mean a character who appears in one game and literally tries to destroy humanity? Perfect name tbh
Dam so many red flags right off the bat
What red flags do you see? I'm wondering if we are worrying about the same stuff.
@@lobot6894 “A best in class graphics showcase, that’s what Halo was when it was first released.”
@@tehlion7430i dont see that as a red flag because hes not wrong
@@lobot6894he didnt see any red flags..
@@lobot6894 chief of staff is the biggest one
The way they’re show casing the game almost feels like what we got when Infinite was first revealed. Not sure how to feel about this :/
its different now. Unreal Engine, wont hold back the game like the old engine, remember the old engine couldn't hold dynamic objects when they released infinite. that's how bad the engine was at the start
@@G0DKILLER_ the Sliptrash engine is so bad
@@Spillow-C Engine wasn't the problem.
UE5 is not a miracle lol@@G0DKILLER_
They aren't showcasing a game here. This was a showcase of a UE5 brainstorming session where they hashed out gameplay fundamentals and assets for future Halo games.
Wasn't this because of them not knowing how to properly utilise their recent engine as the people who worked on it left?
that and the spaghetti code went spaghetti. Unless someone spent their whole lifetime reverse engineering it, basically impossible to fully utilize it
They would just hire contractors every 6 months to be cheap
@@InlandEmpire011 Good ole ranstad contractors!
@kri1ndawn440 Microsoft hiring policies forced 343 to lean on contractors with something like a max of 18 months of employment. A revolving door with proprietary tools is a recipe for disaster, as you loose finite months to upskill new talent before they can effectively do their job.
Obviously 343 couldn't change Microsofts hiring practices, but by transitioning to Unreal you can hire people off the street that have immediate familiarity to your studios tools.
@@InlandEmpire011 they did that and it went wrong cuz of the engine
Split Screen is a MUST!!!!
Offline Playability is a MUST!!!
"My authentic self" - this is a warning sign. Purple hair - this is a warning sign.
Make your own game then chud
Next game is so cooked lol
will pay double for your inauthentic self, please?
These people have nothing to do with what you grew up playing
@@ZenIsPower .. what point are you trying to make?
@SovettaParmetta he was pretty clear. Just read slower next time.
You are absolutely right, Zenis. Pretentious, millennial Californians who haven't got a clue.
Right
Don’t forget the pinks, purples and blue colors. The beautiful vibrant colors of the world from the original Halo were fantastic.
This basically confirms halo 1 remake.
its probably gonna be one of the projects, not the main one tho.
We already had a halo 1 remake in 2011
Probably release on PS5 as well.
@@johnshepard8556 that was more remaster. a remake is rebuilding it from the ground up which this kind of hints at.
@@johnshepard8556 *Remaster not remake, 2011.
Bungie HALO is the best HALO
Halo is one of the franchises in my opinion that should stay Xbox console exclusive permanently
Who would've guessed that the so called "Halo killer" would be Halo itself these days.
The real halo killers were the karens in 343
@@ncarminei true
boring ass predictable take
@@Manuelomar2001 sad, coping, fanboy comment.
It could save others from death, but not itself
We knew engine was coming. On their job application on march 15, they mentionned looking for people with 6 years + experience with engine!
*unreal engine
Hopefully this pulls off
@@meurumtrain4747 Hopefully people will finally realise that 343 will never make a good Halo.
@@nooux1966The fact after all that's happened people still want to give these demons the benefit of the doubt
Halo was one of my fav franchises ever until 343 took over
@Razlo Those games are better than ever, thanks to 343.
@@w77eed No.
@@w77eed hard disagree. Buggy, less impactful campaigns, multiplayer that's trend chasing, just a series that lost it's identity
@@w77eedwhat an awful joke
@@w77eed bruh...
5:04 "Imagine a place where you have the commitment that this is what we wanna do... Halo games.. and create those experiences"
Oh phew, good thing they've finally cracked the formula after all these years.
Don't get me started on the way he formatted that sentence, mf sounds illiterate.
Most of the video is just the devs talking about themselves and sucking themselves off over how awesome they are with their new magical powers
Development costs: Do you know how much this equipment costs son?
Halo studios: tell that to the Covenant.
UE5 money is coming straight off the "Fun gameplay and good story" fund
You can give Halo a new shiny coat of paint but if your foundation sucks it all falls apart
We dont care about top-tier graphics! We want compelling stories and fun gameplay!!
Which Infinite had. This isn’t even about the graphics.
And kickarse music.
All of this talk about graphics and gameplay being what will save halo. It was the Story and the Score that really built the universe and both seem to be lacking in this "tech demo halo". Bring back Marty!!
Omg, I’m so excited to get more mid 343 slop in beautiful unreal engine 5 🔥🔥🔥
You guys already killed all your goodwill, the fans no longer have faith in 343 even if you rebrand. Give the IP to a real studio with competent leadership and permanent employees lol.
Halo 5 music - red flag 🚩
Also had halo 1-3 soundtrack as well tho
Seriously?
Just the music... THE MUSIC?!
@@arkanzock4082very big !!!
They STILL don’t get it. We don’t care about the graphics god. We want a good halo game that has a good story and it’s super fun to play
Shush
@@RageZero115 He's right. The supposed "New Dawn" was just engine change that might or might not look better even then people won't gaf
@dio3321 it is a bit more than that, having to make a brand new Engine and make all your employees have to spend the majority of their time learning that instead of just actually making the game isn't really efficient. but if you can hire a bunch new people because they already know how to use Unreal... then think of how much easier it will be to make the actual game.
@@laimo3 6:03 LMAO
This isn’t about the graphics. You people aren’t even real Halo fans if that’s all you’re getting from this video.
Just make sure to focus on the story, soundtrack, and characterization. Thats what put the trilogy up there with Half-Life as far as FPS stories go, maybe even more so.
Glad we have achieved the very basic step of using a working engine
This has me excited and I'm glad that they kept the classic art style and halo infinite art style.
wow, it looks surreal specially those interviews. even the mouth match the way they speak. also natural tone color for those interviewed.
with my best friend who literally played combat, it evolved on Xbox back then. it's was epic
"The original Halo franchise was a graphics showcase" --- NO, IT WASN'T
Guys, these people STILL don't know what they're doing. BOYCOTT THEM
It kind of was. Halo was the reason people bought an xbox after seeing the trailer alone. The trailer for Halo is a big reason for the success of the xbox. We had ps1 graphics before ps2 and xbox. So Halo kind of looked fecking awesome back then.
yes it was, the original “halo” was an xbox showcase as a RTS game. it then was reworked massively and released as a fps under the name halo combat evolved. YOU Learn halo’s history.
@@0yal569 1. you’re referring to an unreleased prototype of the first game, not the original franchise, and 2. you said it yourself: that prototype was an Xbox showcase NOT a graphical one🤦🏽♂️
@@baconator953 brother wtf do u think a 1999 xbox showcase would be?? it WAS a graphical and gameplay showcase
Now re-release Master Chief collection in unreal engine. I'm sure others would buy it again. I definitely would. Bethesda kinda did it, but you can't do it better. >:0
If we get a real Halo sequel with the classic CE armor then I'm all for it. Just make a great campaign
wasnt that Halo Infinite in a degree???
@@Spillow-C It was. People act like Infinite was awful cuz the multiplayer was completely undercooked at launch, but the campaign was decent and the story was alright. Much better than 4/5.
@@Shredow24 was Great!
@@darrylstubblefield no it wasn’t.
@@clan741 Yes it was!
They better bring playable elites
Coming to a PlayStation near you
Naaa keep wishing
If THAT happens its pretty much all over for Xbox exclusivity
Probably Nintendo Switch 2 as well
@@vonnie2162knowing what happened to indiana jones anything is possible
@@frisby7143 The age of exclusives ended when every game started costing more than 200M US$ to make. Whoever has this "exclusive" mindset will fail
Craig is happy to be on a new graphics engine.
This looks incredible, make sure it’s fun
It's about time! The slipstream engine was ehh but a Halo developed on UE5? Fingers crossed it's amazing
Sorry but gameplay matters, this and last gen are a step down from ps2 ps3 era. Indie devs are better than ya
@@RT-bt5ql Ridiculous
Baseless bias false statement
You mean Xbox and Xbox 360?
@@Slaughter_Hill same era
renaming the studio won't make us forget 10 years of embarrassingly bad halo games
“Bad games” ☝️🤓
@@dzd__2216
I've already forgotten
@@dzd__2216he’s right though.
@@dzd__2216 that's too generous they were atrocious no wonder they didnt even show any of them while they show every game from CE to Reach
Just have it be like halo 3. And bring back the ranking just like H3. And people would love halo again
Igbh i'm genuenly excited for seeing this change.
"If you somehow believe that what you're doing is the greatest thing ever all the time, it's absolutely not gonna be the greatest thing ever." - Jason Jones, Co-Founder of Bungie
So when this new halo game will come out? 2035?
Let's hope 2026 the latest
considering this is basically a job posting video for the new studio, probably 2027 at the earliest
Gonna be honest, unreal engine is the only engine that runs badly for me on PC. It's been a problem with at least 3 games.
Most studios do not optimise their games at all.
Every Unreal 5 game has had problems with performance lol
whats your specs?
@@bleepbloop7039 it’s not really a matter of specs, it’s well documented that unreal engine can lead to stutters even on high end hardware due to its intense shader compilation
@@aSkyclad which is why your system should have double the power mentioned in the minimum requirements of the game to run it properly.
High hopes for new Halo.
Same
Having halo studios is equivalent to putting fresh water label on bong water
It's like that scene from the Wire. When the product becomes bad what do you do? Make it better? No, you change the name.
@@originalpastaman5470 they are changing the name and the game. Other companies should take note.
I’ll believe it when we see some gameplay
They're never going to let Halo go. It's been done to perfection and done to death. Halo14 coming soon !!
Halo studios is a pretty good name for a studio that might be trying to release games on other platforms
343i rebranding into Halo Studios is just amazing, and as a long-time Halo Player since 2001, I'm really excited and looking forward to a new Halo Game running on Unreal Engine 5 😊
I hope Halo Studios adds content that was cut from previous Halo Games to the new Halo Game 👍🏽
It really is a New Dawn 🌅
Hopefully this means that the next game won’t get a half baked release.
Well, it's safe to say Halo is officially dead after seeing the staff for this studio.
How so?
343 industries rename to Halo studios? That's a generic name...
They only made Halo games so it makes sense nonetheless
yes, but its better than 343, which is the the name of a villain character which literally betrays Chief and even kills a fan-favourite character.
Not much different than what they did with us and the saga tho... so now they are reedeming themselves
Hoping for Gravemind Blight Inc rebrand in 2035
this name change won't change anything. YOU'RE STILL 343 TO US!
So no one wants to mention how awesome it is to see chief in the OG mk 5 armor?
Looks like 343 is getting ready to completely fumble the franchise once again.
it's amazing how Halo looks so good in unreal engine 5. and it's also worth mentioning the new direction the studio is taking, let's hope they can achieve great thin.
Halo is coming back to reclaim its long awaited. 👑
The king of shooters.
For too long has halo lost its crown, soon it shall reclaim it
It looks phenomenal but it has to feel phenomenal and just like Bungies Halo !
oh wow it’s beautiful! what an amazing playground for some epic storytelling
2:42 These devs clearly don't know the IP they're working with. Halo was never meant to look like Earth. It resembled it in geography and flora, but the atmosphere was always a bit off. Different.
He's not lying though, the old school classic environments in Halo were based on the PNW. Bungie is from Washington. Last time I checked, Zanzibar and New Mombasa are both on earth lol..
PS5 exclusive Maarthon is the halo killer 😎😎😎😎😎
It's not exclusive 😂
Actually its his father ... and it was on pc 25 years ago
@@AllEliteW nobody has heard of that lmao
M$ was the Halo killer, sadly.
5:54 that line goes hard
- Don't even put a store in the game.
- Make it so we 1. Start the game. 2. Go to battle. It's so annoying having to close 5 to 10 announcements in games these days before we can play.
- Make it rated M again. Kids can't even afford paying without their parents.
Make a Systems you can continue expanding and adding chapters. If you make a good game, we will continue playing and buying. I still play Halo 1, 2, 3, and Halo Wars.
- Hire writers
- Hire fans that love the franchise.
Look at their Chief Of Staff.
Nuff said.
343 will never get it right.
0:25 that thing ain't takin no one into the future if anything we going backwards cause of that thing
What thing?
WAH WAH WAH black women
You really need better writers.
If it’s the same people leading the way and writing then engine does not matter, it will still be bad.
ugh feels like i already heard this before "reset"
If this is what Master Chief looks like I'm dying to see Cortana😂
More Unreal engine slop? Yippie!🤯🔫