WHY I DON'T USE KETTLEBELLS (Kettlebell fails)
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- hey guys in this video I talk about why I don't use kettlebells. while also watching a ton of kettlebell fails and kettlebell workout fails.
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I will reiterate this here... this video is why I personally don't use them with where I'm at in my training career lol. For others they may be great tools to use!! This isn't me saying EVERYONE DONT USE KBS's lol. Love yall
I 100000000% agree with you. I HATE Kettlebells. P.K.
I'm gonna give you my sincere piece of advice and yes it's just some stranger's two cents but here it goes:
don't look at the comments. It's an unwritten rule of youtube. I've seen channels grow and the creator starts mentioning negative comments and I watch their attitude towards the channel change. I watch the person change over time and after a while when they step infront of that camera it's not as good as it was because they're thinking of some loser that's inevitably going to be nasty towards the creator. You might think you can get over it but hey pick your battles. Thank you for the content bro the people who actually apply themselves appreciate you! I'm on that fb group too ✌
KB and gymnastics rings make a great travel gym for tacticool guys, but when you’re at home better be slangin some barbells
Generic response from trainer certified in “kettlebell training”!!!!!!! But seriously everything has its place and I understand exactly what you’re saying (as someone who owns ALOT of high quality kettlebells, price is something a lot of people don’t consider)
@@evanlinard3191 what?
*By functional I mean you can comfortably swing or carry it **bestgym.equipment** around as one would expect of a kettlebell weight. By versatile I mean the protective coating does not prevent attaching magnetic micro-plates to increase the weight, so, for example, a 35 pound kettlebell can be increased by up to 5 pounds in weight or possibly a bit more by attaching magnetic micro-plates.*
Only used em during the beginning of the covid saga when mfs had to lift whatever they could get their hands on
I get that
Like rocks and gallon jugs of water.
Hi Dad
Yes, this
As a jiu jitsu practisioner the ballistic aspect of the kettlebell really mimicks the attributes used in jiu jitsu. Nothing like a 20 minute amrap circuit doing continuous work to prepare for battle. I program between 4 and 8 weeks and can see my work load go up pretty fast every training.
Joey, you gotta keep in mind, you're a strongman competitor and you work at a gym with people who are similarly to you pretty strong people. Working up to being able to do the following with double 32s (64kg total) is something that takes most people a long time: 1 Overhead press w/both, 10 Cleans w/both, and 15 Double Front Squats. Those are solid strength standards - they're not amazing but they give you a really solid base. I personally am not there yet, and I've started training with the bells about 2 years ago with breaks, my only previous background was calisthenics. So I started training deadlifts two months ago and I was straight away able to pull 140kgs (for 2 reps - maybe could have done more but didn't want to risk injury as a newbie). I have never trained deadlifts in my life. So there was some definite carryover.
Now you might say, why bother, just start with a barbell right away, but consider this: I don't have space for a barbell in my apartment. I would need to pay a gym membership and adding the price of that up for 2 years nets me pretty much what I have payed for the kettlebells. So I got stronger in those years while staying pretty independent. That's the beauty of the bells. At the top level it definitely evens out. A 140kg deadlift would be laughable for you, Joey, but for me it's a pretty amazing starting point.
Definitely a lot of stupid kettlebell practices out there but a properly executed kettlebell program can do wonders. But stop comparing them to regular lifting. They are a different thing entirely.
No it’s not perfect for strength and it’s not the best for conditioning. It’s somewhere between strength and conditioning and that’s probably where a lot of people belong long term.
Personally I like kettlebells when I need a break from barbell training. It allows my body to recover and my conditioning to level up, and I lose absolutely zero strength when I go back to lifting in a couple months.
Fair take. As a Jiu Jitsu athlete (just like yourself), I personally found a lot of value in kettlebells by doing strength endurance. Doing snatches for time (AFTER learning the proper form), Turkish getups, and double kettlebell swings, cleans, and presses really helped increase my cardio and maintain previous gains. But if you’re into powerlifting and lifting as much weight as humanly possible, then I agree: these ain’t the tools for you.
Kettlebells saved my shoulders; I do the majority of my oh pressing with kbs. Also great for front squats. I actually recommend programming them into one’s workouts.
I must admit, I had pain in my forearms all my life doing standard bicep curls with plates or dumbells. After switching to kettle bells, I got the same sort of workouts minus the pain. Sooooooo... Kettle bells are pretty damn good for those looking for a great workout without limb pain. That is of course, if you use the correct form.
I prefer sandbags to kettlebells. Sandbags seems to work my whole body more than kettlebells.
You should do a collaboration with a kettlebell sport proponent to get their side. That would be cool.
Get Dan John on!
A collaboration between this channel and Chandler Marchman’s channel to discuss this very topic is something I would literally pay for. Take my money NOW!
Kettlebell aren't really a great tool for building strengh or for hypertrophy, so i agree on that. But the main purpose of them is to to work explosive power and core, and transfer strengh from the ground up. This make it a great tool for fighters and many other sportsmen.
totally agree, i would even ad that the (russian) long cycle is pretty good for building "cardiao" endurance and a very nice compound movement. It surprises me a bit, that people who like weightlifting don`t enjoy kettlebells but everyone has his own taste. I do love them if i might say.
For explosive power a barbell is still superior though. The power clean is the most explosive exercise by a mile and you get more bang for your buck on a barbell. For core stability and conditioning, then yeah they're useful but I wouldn't go out of my way if I had access to a barbell and bumpers to pick up a kettlebell.
@@rich6653 do you mean weightlifting as in IWF the sport of weightlifting? If so then we don't like kettlebells because they aren't a lift we compete in. Snatch and C&J are barbell movements, so just use a barbell.
@@fenianlewis Yeah, it is my personal experience that there is little time in (specific) Weightlifting programming for anything that infringes on the main three lifts. I was just surprised that Szat doesen`t like kettlebells since i thought that strongmen might really like them. I cried a little, and now i have reached the acceptance stage. haha
Perfectly reasonable take.
Swings are like a tuneup for your entire body. Even if you never decide to get into kettlebells, this is the one exercise most people should be doing.
Opposite of a tuneup. It’s a complete waste of time.
@@Sonic_1000I've heard a lot of mixed opinions. Your physique looks good so you probably know best, but I've been using a kettlebell circuit to warm up for a while now. I don't think it's totally useless.
@@Sonic_1000 Granted, KBs will never get you to look like you look. But how many guys want to need a bra when they are 70? Kettlebells build strength, build cardiovascular fitness, coordination, flexibility. I must agree, however, those are pretty useless attributes in athletics and in real life.
Someone did a couple of studies with ballerinas and basketball players who were given a KB routine (swings and get-ups if memory serves). Both groups increased their jump height by 3 to 4 inches. Again, a useless improvement.
Swings are rhe most overrated exercise ever. I had a phase of doing them, I got up to swinging a 32kg for up to 300 swings in around 25 minutes. The results...minimal . Yes my posterior chain improved and my forearms got bigger. Thats it. It was boring beyond belief to do
During the early lockdowns, I needed a circuit. I needed something to help me get motivated and move when it was time for a workout. Kettlebell swings, when alternated with burpees, pushups, goblet squats, Russian twists (like you mentioned), and a 1 mile run was perfect. It wasn't "strength" - I understand that, and that's where you live and breathe. To me, a Kettlebell isn't a stand-along workout but in a giant set of things, multiple movements, I think it's useful. Many thanks.
I absolutely love kettlebells, but for me, it's generally been more of a conditioning tool. You can build strength with it, but you have to increase reps and weight and all that in an intelligent manner. At some point, you do hit those diminishing returns, though, so I don't disagree with the idea that if you want to train for strength, it's not an ideal tool. But since you can get up to 200+ lbs kettlebells, it's not an awful tool, either.
That said, it's just a tool and it's always best to use other tools at your disposal to achieve your goals when those other tools are generally better at helping you achieve them.
I think the point everyone missed in this was that it's why I personally don't use them. But for other people they could be the perfect tool lol. I agree with you =].
@@SzatStrength Yeah, with your stated goals, they're far from the best tool you could use to achieve them, even if they made them up to a thousand pounds.
Right now, I'm focused on conditioning more than anything else, so they're one of my preferred tools.
That's the great thing about the fitness space, though. There are so many tools and so many options that people have choices.
I get it. I currently use kettlebells and body weight exercises. I know kettlebells aren't the be-all end-all of training. I don't think any kettlebell enthusiast would argue that. But they are useful and not just for beginners.
You mentioned the cost and while that may be true, a beginner with kettlebells may only need 2 to get started. Progress can be slow, so they will only be purchasing a new bell as they progress. A person training with barbells who wanted a home setup would have to spend a lot more on a barbell set and a bench/rack.
There's also the idea that because they are used for long cycles that they are good for strength endurance. If you want pure brute strength, go for the barbell. If you want strength and endurance, use kettlebells.
I think it's a matter of goals and priorities. At my age, I'm interested more in being strong enough (and then some) and healthy enough to live well for the rest of my life. I'll probably go back to barbells in a while, but I think I'll keep kettlebells in my rotation.
WTF…where you pull these gym fail videos from Dr.Joel Seedman’s fan page?
Saying “oh you’ll need to keep buying more bells” is bullshit lmao. Do you not need to buy more plates? Or does the barbell magically get heavier?
Buying more bells is a good thing, it means your -gasp- Getting stronger!? Wait I thought you couldn’t build strength with kettlebells duuuuuuur 🤪
Haha, maybe kettlebell makes little sense, if you're already Goliath..
If you're a small skinny dude like me, it's perfect, also the hip-hinging involved in swings, does wonders for my back.
Joey check out Swing This Kettlebell he's the only guy that has size and specializes in kettleballs for size
Kettlebellers: kettlebells are superior for developing strength endurance and conditioning.
Me: how many times can you get this 250-300 pound sandbag up to shoulder height? Can you run with these 8 year old lacrosse players?
BJJ guys: kettlebells are great for jiu jitsu conditioning.
Me: because you know nothing else and you picked the easiest method that made you think you were improving. How many times can you lift this 250-300 pound sandbag to shoulder height? You know how easy bodies are to sling around when you’ve mastered this bag weight?
Randoms seeing my dusty bells: you should use those. They make me strong and capable without taking up space.
Me: can you lift them overhead without using your entire body for momentum and force? Launching a fraction of your bodyweight using your entire body isn’t strength. Playing rugby would be more beneficial and none of your space would be taken up. Hey... how many times...
I agree, kettlebells are not ideal for building maximal strength or physique. I feel like its more of a fine tuning tool for the body. In my opinion, the kettlebell was designed to take existing strength and transform it into lethal power.
You can definitely build up strength with kettlebells, its all on the type of movement you're doing.
Troll post for sure
Kettlebells were the iron that bit me, and got me back into strength training with barbells and dumb bells. I've found them quite useful for a lot of my conditioning and endurance training along with 'gada' mace training that compliments what I do with barbells these days. There is never a 'one implement covers all' so much as 'use this for that, and 'that for this' after all. Even Pavel goes into detail about barbells, sandbags, calestetics when you look at his full body of work. I come from an endurance running/tactical (bodyweight calestetics, with lot's of rucking) background (well, when I was active duty military...), and I've found that applying various methods worked best in the right combination (can't say I ever 'mastered' hybrid athletics, but I managed to get through my enlistment just fine in the upper middle of the pack physically). I love using the 'trinity' of Kettlebells (one handed swings {alternating sides], clean/overhead press, and KB snatch) along with gada mace (360's, dynamic curls, and 10 & 2'oclocks) as auxilary or secondary work outs (2 - a days) with my barbell lifts (bench, deadlift, and squats) depending upon the programing I cherry pick from (ex. Training Lab from Matt Vincent for Highland Games throwing). So long as the primary and auxiliary lifts and conditioning doesn't induce actual physical pain (as opposed to muscle discomfort from lactic acid build up), I figure it will all help.
Holy shit thst was long. Brevity is beautiful.
Of course. all this depends on your goals. I'm in my late '60's and I'm not looking to become a mass of muscle. But toning, conditioning, keeping my joints and skeletal structure in shape? Kettlebells do the trick, and they don't require a lot of dedicated room to use...unlike a weight bench and barbell/rack setup. Also, keep in mind that you _can_ get good stimulus with rep volume...not just piling on weight.
I totally agree that they're not suitable for training for max strength and they are definitely not a good fit for deadlifting etc.
However they're not meant to be used for that, they're meant for strength endurance (which you also touched on) however in that context I think you might have under estimated them. There's a tiny percentage of people who have the conditioning to handle an hour + of heavy KB marathoning. That shit will suck the soul out of your body. I used to incorporate them into my training when I was in the military, outside of actual battle PTs nothing else comes close to preparing your body for the strength endurance required for the infantry. The magic sauce is all the rotational movements you can do with them that you can not do with a barbell etc.
P. S I also like barbells and DBs.
Kettlebell are meant for better movement and function. Most people don't care about the aesthetics and trying to look big.
As a trucker, Kettlebells are the only thing I got. Would be intresting to see some info on how to help Truckers stay strong while on the road.
Sandbags are a great heavier implements to use while traveling, 70 to 100lbs, duffel or boulder style bags work great
@@JackintheMouth I got me a nice 200lb rouge bag. I use my flatbed as a platform. Thanks man.
@@theodoricthegoth4027 oh dang you all ready know then. If you're throwing around a 200lb sandbag, you are strong as hell haha, otta make your own training vids!
Super heavy loadable dumbbells. You can make the handels DIY style and buy some 11 lbs exercise plates. Exercise plates are super affordable so you can get 200lbs easy and still A LOT easier to store than a small set of kettlebells. And you can do a lot with a pair of hundred pound dumbels like OHP, bent rows, all the singel leg stuff and more. And they are incrementally loadable. Bonus, add some bands and other trinquets + calisthenics, you are golden.
Valery Fedorenko has a program for truckers. He has a bunch of world records in kbell lifting and been driving a truck for a couple years. Don't listen to this nonsense on the video. It's like saying corvettes suck because they can't do what jeeps do. Most kbell stuff out there is garbage. Learn from someone great. My videos are free on my Strength and conditioning Playlist. No ads. I was certified by Pavel for 4 years and trained with and got coaching by Valery many times.
As many folks in the comments, I train MMA and as you can easily tell by Phil Daru's channel, the kettlebell is king for MMA strength
Kettlebell + resistance bands + body weight exercises = perfect workout for me
They’re not a replacement for barbells or dumbbells but I do think they have their place. I like using them for rows as opposed to dumbbells, don’t know why but I get a better mind muscle connection. To each their own
Kettlebells do make you stronger, it depends on the movement you are doing.
I respect your point of view but I take the opposite approach. When used instead of a barbell or dumbbell, KBs put you into a bio-mechanically disadvantaged position. That means you have to work harder to do the same amount of work. Reason being that the load is not in line with the skeletal system like a dumbbell. The offset and unilateral nature also make it great for putting good stress on the whole body. Of course it's not the ideal implement for professional bodybuilding where you don't want that extra stress on the whole body and would prefer to isolate and overload individual muscle groups in the most efficient manner. Most people are scared to use heavy KBs or do more than just swings but they are a great tool for strength and conditioning. Your method works great for you and your goals though. Not mad at your hot take at all.
Well in my opinion it depends on how you use them. They have different weights for a reason I don't believe that you won't get stronger if you work with two 80lb kettlebells moving all the time they build your strength pretty quick is just different then barbells or dumbbells. Conditioning work is great with lighter bells add in heavy work mix and match you can build a good physique and strength. I'm talking from experience
You are absolutely right
They are insanely useful for circuit training, for example with my clients a 12-16kg kettle bell for 15/20/30 reps is tremendous cardio HIIT Training ;)
nice!
The purpose of kettlebells is developing power endurance and strength endurance. They are great for that and much better than dumbells or barbells for that purpose. Confusing them with something to deadlift or thinking about them for high level strength is just that... confusion. You showed silly videos to make your point. You can prove barbells and dumbells are dangerous and dumb with the same type of videos. Did you know they make new cars that don't even have keys? Like, what is the point of having a car you can't even start?
They are objectively worse at developing power than barbells. The load being used is too small to maximally develop strength or power. They are great if you are a beginner at training or really small but their effectiveness in power development drops off dramatically once you gain strength.
Having strength endurance at relatively low weights sure.
@@jdmo741 they are best at power endurance, not max power. I'll edit my original comment to make it more clear. There's a difference. The reason why is because of the quick contract- relax for minutes. They are not competing against oly lifts for maximum power. Does the most powerful ufc guy win? Or is it the one with the best power endurance? Both of course win but the odds are for the power endurance guy. It's a fact. Posts like this are from people who just don't understand. I've been a trainer for over 20 years to put my point into perspective. Even Pavel who he mentioned does not say kbells are best for strength. That's why he has a barbell course and cert also. The comparison is absurd. Use them or make fun, those who know, know.
Hans Molenkamp looking jacked here
I love not worrying about splitting up my training week. Let's face it most bloke's forget leg day. With kbs they cover everything in one session
As a boxer - 3 times per week kettle bells training routime makes my boxing game better than ever.
In my opinion kettlebells are best for sports where dynamic stenght/force and endurance are essential.
Of course you may be stronger and look more asthetic with barbell excercises and overload progression.
But if your main focus in on dynamic strenght/force, muscle connecion and condidtion - in my opinion kettlebells are better than barbell
Can i mix between kettlebell and barbell
@@elhendam
Sure you can.
Just try to make concentric phase of the exercise as dynamic as you can
Not great for females after 40 especially if they had children and/or had any cesareans.
KBs are vastly overrated. If you want to build muscle and get stronger use barbells. If you want to improve your conditioning walk, ruck or hill sprint. KBs dont do either all that effectively. This is based on my own personal experience.
But how are you going to be on Joe Rogan Podcast now?
I've been using them for 3 years and they cost under $100 each (I've got 4). Where I am a good gym membership can cost $100 a month.
It's horses for courses. Pros and cons. In the end it's just a weight. I've built muscle and got stronger with mine. The barbell might be more efficient but because I can work out at home I have been able to build a habit where I wasn't able to before.
You need to learn how to use them properly, much like the barbell. Anyone who works out will see plenty of people not using barbells well.
This is closest to where I am at too. I have never been more consistent with any exercise program.
Just Imagine pressing two 106lbs that's 212 pounds you pressing that's strength right there. Your average person is nowhere near that I'm just making a point that if you combine kettlebells the total weight becomes larger plus add the unstableness of them it forces your body to respond.
212lbs is nowhere near strong for strongman. Not even for lightweights. And 106lb kettlebells simply add far too much risk and strain compared to dumbbells, barbells, axles, and logs. And they’ve got next to nothing for general or specific training compared to strongman sandbags. When cost is factored in, those bells are a ridiculous option.
@@marzmarch I get you but you forget your average Joe. I'm talking from the point of view of a regular guy not a strongman.
@@marzmarch kettlebells have value to your everyday person who wants to get in shape. The unbalanced factor is what makes the kettlebell special just throwing my two cents in I'm no professional I just like training.
Swing / clean&press / lunge / turkish getup / bentpress are some fundamentals i think every one should learn when starting to train. Then when very strong they might indeed be unnecesery unless one wants to progress in strength endurance or get crazy strong bentpress which is actually very impressive.
Hi bro,I use only kettlebells, and I will try to explain why:
I was a Chi Gong trainee, where the first principle is that the whole body moves as one unit. No matter what movement you do, your entire body, from your toes to your hair, participates. When I first saw kettlebell sport training, I said to myself, "It's beautiful! Chi Gong with weights!"
Kettlebells are not about the gym philosophy of isolating muscles and training each one to get pumped. Instead, kettlebells are the best tool for training your body as one unit. To understand kettlebells well, you should be a dancer at heart because real kettlebell training is a dance. The movements should be smooth, and the power should pass from your legs through your entire body.
Beyond this, the number of reps in kettlebell sport training is comparable only to a boxing match. In kettlebell sports training and competitions, you do hundreds of reps even though the weights are not high. It's unique because I don't think there is another tool that combines aerobic training with weight training in such a perfect way.
Even two kettlebells of 16 kg provide a very powerful workout if you do, for example, "two-arm long cycle" a few dozen times.
I could say more, but I hope this is enough.
I'm a kettlebell user but nice video great to be honest every one has there own why of training just as long we keep moving no matter what we do
You can get adjustable kettlebells, same as dumbbells. And most of the stuff can be done with single adjustable kettlebell, or 3 fixed weight kettlebells (for males 16, 20 and 24kg). They are very good to fill in the gaps, so you reduce the chance of injury with your super heavy barbell. They are nice tool to quickly get heartrate up befor doing anything else.
While it was a nice little mashup of Russian alcoholic videos, kettlebells did and still do a lot of good for building core strength.)
Why are all those people passing out from kb cleans 😂
very wrong
You’re not a fan of kettlebells because you ACTUALLY lift. Kettlebells are really not effective for increasing strength.
Nobody has ever increased their deadlift by using kettlebells.
I absolutely love kettlebells. But there's nothing (or very little) that I disagree with here. Thanks for your content. As far as fitness goes, it's really about conditioning for kettlebells and core strength.
Expensive? Try putting a barbell 'gym' in your home. The bar, the plates, the bench, the squat racks, the floor protection, the continual setting up and taking down (putting the plates on and off), the need for a spotter for certain exercises. If you don't have a home gym, then you're stuck with gym fees for as long as you live, AND traveling to and from the gym (30 minutes each way?).
Look at all those "fails". The only one who was injured, I believe, was the guy with that Rube Goldberg rig hanging around his neck. In every other case, the 'bells fell away from the operator. Safe! Completely different from a bench press fail with a barbell. Those weren't fails; they are a feature of kettlebelling.
Bro is reaching. If you don’t like them, you don’t like them. Price? Efficiency of movement? Wtf. Dumb arguments. Should you not run because you get more efficient at running?
You don’t need that many to get benefit out of them. Most people don’t use them for absolute strength and hypertrophy. They use them for efficient home workouts. Don’t be dumb bro.
For me there are only 4 exercises worth doing with kettlebells but in fairness, I do them frequently... Snatch, Swing, Clean and Press and Turkish Get Up. Outside of those 4 movements, everything else is better with dumbbells or barbells inc. Squats, Carries, other Press variations.
DB > KB #changemymind
If you only train for hypertrophy or strength, I can see not having them. If you do conditioning, however, KB swings are an amazing exercise. Nowadays you can get those handles that attach to DBs, so that changes the game a bit. In terms of the video, why was KB equated with idiots? There is no reason for that and I think it degrades your argument and makes you seem less professional.
In 2003 I was living in Estonia and I met some dudes who used K bells. I was 23 and I had no clue what they were. Dudes were flat out animals. They taught me some stuff. Still use them to this day. Still use a gym, but KBs are perfect for home. Days when I can't get to gym I can still get in a sick workout.
Kettlebells are the dumbest things ever. Whatever kettlebells are good for there’s a much better alternative. is you want to condition yourself then jogging is free. A bike a a few hundred dollars but at least you can go places with it. They are so ugly too. Let’s not forget that the communists in Russia love kettle bells and we are American so let’s us reasonable workout equipment like normal people.
If this strong guy can side press a 50Kg for 10reps the he would feel different. He is a standard strong athletic poser. But he is on RUclips he must be an expert.
Never learned proper form and when I try using kettle bells my back hurts. Not exactly sure if it’s because I have a pre existing back pain or cause my form really just sucks.
Kettlebells ❤
Saved my shoulders and hips form the fate of many a powerlifter (the surgeons scalp)
I totally understand what you're saying, what you haven't tried (and you probably never will) is learning the actual SPORT of Kettlebell Lifting. I personally know that IF you ever get to learning the Long Cycle exercise with 24kgs (using 2 competition kettlebells), just 5 minutes of that might change your mind. However, I'm not sure if you're into physical challenges and ever into learning anything about the sport. If so, shoot me a message. I'm willing to help you.
Two 90 kg dead lift .90 kg single arm press , snatch Inside pendulum swings and outside pendulum swings front rack squat clean positio to press
Best gains with kettlebell muscle gained 15lb in 3mths 170-185lb
When done right kettlebell complex's work when done for time under tension
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Heavy double kb clean and press and heavy double front squat are amazing exercises.
I have used kbells regularly for 20 yrs. I am a Level 1 STrongfirst instructor. I have always owned a 300 lb Barbell set to use in addition to kbell training. I don’t know many people who ONLY use kbells. So basically your point is that kbells are not for heavy squats and deadlifts. I agree. Use a barbell for that. Kbells are for full body movements i.e., Turkish Get Up, and for explosive cardio i.e., high rep snatches. And I gotta tell ya, doing a bunch of kbell snatches is way more fun than a 20 min jog on a treadmill.
I just avoid them bc 1) they're awkward AF for most people, 2) that same "most people" will never learn how to properly use them in their limited usefulness without hurting themselves, 3) we HAD kettle bells long ago. There's a reason we evolved beyond them.
if you're an strongman, why would you use small kettlebells?? look at the strong man Olliver Quinn from Westport Battlebells, the tool is not the problem, going into a workout plan with a 24kg bell when you press more than 100kg is the fail, kettlebells are a clasical beautiful and brutal instruments for strength.
People increase their deadlift and squat from kettlebell training. People PR'ing 20-50lbs after a 4-6 week program is not uncommon. This is not entirely due to strength gains (obviously there will be some) but a lot of it is due to form and being more proficient at the movement. Like many have said kettlebells just like barbells are a tool in a program. You're straight up lying about cost benefits and kettle bells can be had in 203lbs so theoretically you can deadlift and squat 406 at home with equipment that takes up the space of a toaster oven and cost 350ish bucks... where can you find a barbell, squat rack and 350lbs of weight for anything close to that price? You can get doubles of 4 different kettlebell weights for less. You can get mass by doing anything provided the right amount of volume.
You can’t get close to muscle failure with kettlebells.
It's funny how everyone dismisses heavy kettlebells like test the waters and find out how strong you can get. Start working with heavy kettlebells and see what happens don't dismiss the idea of strength just because you not loading a barbell with 500 pounds. Gymnast are some of the strongest athletes in the world go ask them about their barbell numbers like obviously their strength is different I just don't like the limiting view that you all seem to have with the kettlebell. We know about barbells and dumbbells so why not know what you can do with kettlebells instead of dismissing them as just a conditioning tool which the heavier you go the more strength it will require to lift it's common sense right 🤷🏼♀️
I use kettlebells to train power and power endurance, not strength training per se. Strength is a secondary effect, I guess, but most kettlebell sport athletes need to use barbells or calisthenics for strength and hypertrophy training. If you don’t value power, then I wouldn’t see the point.
Your missing the point? The purpose of kettlebell training is to improve muscular endurance. Increasing reps and sets over time with limited rest improves cardiovascular fitness and muscular endurance and burns fat. Kettlebells are about conditioning rather than muscle building.
Decoding 5 mins of talk….. “I don’t know how to use KB’s, and I REALLY don’t know the intended application of them”
If u are doing a kettlebell swing with, lets say 90 pounds than its definitely a strength Training, because u dont lift it u Swing it! Thats at least 2 times Harder than lifting
How so? Swinging is using the body’s weight to create momentum and force. If your statement were true, push presses would be twice as hard as strict presses. Not even close to true and the push press uses far less body English than swings.
@@marzmarch so why is a 110lb Swing harder than a heavy deadlift? If swinging is a lot easier, why can u move lower weight, than with Lifting? Push Press is a different example, u push the weight up and not swinging it.
Depends on goals. For strength not the best. For conditioning they are incredible.
it's great for burning calories... say like kb squat cleans for 200 reps with a heavier kb
Well sort of.
I think it would be better put to say if your want to develope your maximal Strength to it's fullest potential then yes nothing compares to using barbells. However if you want to develope your maximal strength with the goal of maximizing your performance in a given sport then I would say Kettlebells are superior to barbells in many ways.
Maximal strength development is only beneficial to a certain point apart from pure strength sports such as power lifting or strongman competition. When it comes even to power sports where speed, coordination and agility are just as important, maximal strength development is only beneficial to a certain point. Most top performing elite athletes are not the ones who score well in the weight room. Beyond a certain point their is little return on performance in improving maximal strength. Again unless we are taking a sport where maximal strength is one of if not the main skill.
Because of this if Kettlebells can develop maximal strength up to the point where maximal strength stops translating to performance gains then how do they compare to barbell training? Since kettlebells are able to develop maximal strength to the point of diminishing returns on performance they have more benefits beyond maximal strength that make them actually more beneficial and effective than barbells.
You made a few statements that I think misunderstanding the effectiveness of kettlebell. Yes Kettlebells are lighter in weight but because they are used ballistically the force of the lighter weight is multiplied to equal the force that of heavier barbells. Also kettlebells aren't used the same as weights where you raise the weight every five pounds to make gains. With Kettlebells you can actually increase the speed of the exercise to increase the force. This makes it unnecessary to make smaller jumps in weight. You don't have to keep buying more bells. Also going into double Kettlebells greatly increases the weight being used because again the movements are ballistic. Swinging 2 80 lb Kettlebells at high speeds is a tremendous amount of Force.
Also I think it isn't fair to use videos of idiots using kettlebells, or kettlebell competition lifters who are competing for endurance and number of lifts to represent the effectiveness of kettlebells. That is a bit disingenuous.
In short I agree in part that dumbbells are superior for solely maxing out maximal strength development but I think the rest of your comments do not fairly represent kettlebells at all.
Do I really want to swing a wrecking ball around my knees? No thanks!!
Esp at the last reps, I could lose control or concentration.
I can get the same explosive movement with bands.
I only use kettlebells for split squats.
Kettlebells for sex purposes only. Them swings got my hip thrust game god level.
Now, you are forced to do collab videos on kettlebells. haha
Seriously, 50-70 total swings will open your hips, hip flexors, stretch and activate your hams, cue your abs to brace fire your glutes. Plus you will feel more explosive. IMO they are irreplaceable in the warmup as no other tool can do that. Do them when you do your hamstring curls back and forth for a few easy sets before squatting.
It's okay bro you don't have to explain yourself to kettleball guys
great for the home gym guy, they're cheaper than dumbbells in the uk and i can use them for both conditioning and hypertrophy, i do have a barbell and a strongman's log but the bells have their place and can do anything a dumbbell can do
to be fair that kinda out of shape russian guy that lifts old rusty kbs in his yard is cool af
I've started using kettlebells as I've started playing around with more complicated movements like Turkish get ups, bent presses and 2 hands any hows and can see their value as a tool for learning how to balance a weight because they're just easier to balance than a barbell or dumbbell. I'd not use them exclusively as they just don't come heavy enough for a fair amount of simpler movements with the heaviest bell I've seen being 90kg and that was seriously hard to handle vs a dumbbell the same weight.
They are just boring to me. About as fun as jogging.
KB are great as Accessory for overhead work. KB clean and press is great. The KB opens up the shoulder like no other piece. It also teaches you the right final Position of arm and shoulder for barbell overhead work
I like kettlebell swings and snatches. I just like the movement for circuit training.
Barbell fo Life!
Lol of course he doesn’t use them. Look at his quads haha
I agree fully with the movement aspects. That's why I don't use swinging for most exercises. I use them from the floor like a barbell.
Legs... jesus christ. going to squat now
I love swinging a Kettlebell before deadlifts to get that hip explosiveness.
Uhh some of those clips are true 'fails' but some of them are actual kettlebell sport/girevik athletes (not Pavel/'hard style'/StrongFirst) lifting to exhaustion and completely destroyed-- they're lifting 32 kgs as many times as possible in under 10 minutes-- something I doubt you can do.
There isn't anyone who thinks kettlebells can make you stronger than powerlifting/strongman lifting, this is a "strawman" video.
😂I suppose you know nothing about strongman training.
they are utter shit..good door stops though.
Using kettle bell seems scary with those who fainted...
yes
Yeah, though it would be equally scary with fainting with barbell or dumbells above head...
In my gym they definitely belong in the "least used" category. Unless you're a crossfit box, waste of money imo
Only thing I use them is for KB bottom up presses for OHP and Bench. Amazing exercise for increasing stability in the shoulder.
I ended up getting one of Mike Bartos' Power Pins over a loadable kettlebell or taking up a ton of space with a whole set. Heavy swings are a fun addition to my program. But, I am definitely a barbell and db guy...