Qui-Gon was the only Jedi at the time, who still believed the Force was guiding him fully. Dooku was more of a idealist and had his focus on politics and the upcoming darkness. Qui-Gon was not oblivious to the fact that the Sith had returned to some capacity and that’s why he felt so strongly in the Force to train Anakin, even trying to make the Council believe that Obi-Wan was ready for his trials to become a Knight so he could dedicate his time to Anakin. Sidious was right all along that the Jedi were too dogmatic and stuck in their ways. Hence, why Qui-Gon was the bigger threat at that point, even Plageuis was concerned of that fact.
Qui-Gon was obviously not the most powerful Jedi in the Order, but arguably the *wisest,* because it seems even Yoda himself was blind to certain things that Qui-Gon was fully conscious of. It was that exceptional wisdom that scared the bejesus out of Plagueis.
He was the one Jedi that knew immediately that the Sith were back in the mix. As the readings from Plagueus novel in this video, Qui gon Gin is the only Jedi that trusted in Force absolutely.
@@sheilaolfieway1885 Why not knock it out of the park with a gay woman of color?? The force is female remember? Even Dave Females Only FEELS that way. It's not the script, acting or emotions that matter but which IDENTITY those involved have. The oligarch Lords (Disney, Amazon etc) think you should just STFU and LIKE IT! Of course it's shite but you ARE going to love it anyway! OR ELSE!
@@peter-radiantpipes2800 No but i saw the meme and i know disney wants to destroy everything... last i recall it was "put a women in it and make her gay."
its simple.... he has a special set of skills and knows how to use them... and he is a tuff as coffin nails ooh and he would have taught Anikin to actually listen and not just hear the force.
Hey Stupendous Can we get a video on why the 3 sith holicron guardians each hated Darth Krayt and why they refused to help him? All have their reasons why, in life as well as in death.
I think that this fear that Plagueis has of Qui-Gon was not Qui-Gon's power but who he would pass that torch of that power to and Anakin being the perfect opportunity for Qui-Gon to teach the ways of the True Jedi from the Old Republic and if he pours all that knowledge to Anakin if would've been GGs for the grand plan of the Sith
Qui-Gon was a maverick and didn't follow rules blindly. He was unpredictable, quiet, and observant. His bonds to Dooku and the Chosen one would of rewritten history. This was what made him dangerous.
@drifter139 with Disney's reputation, I wouldn't trust them to make it. Lucasfilm is probably the only one that could pull that off and not make it a shit show
I believe this. This would cause huge panic! Had Qui-Gon lived Plagueis would have to fight him.This is very nice story. Plagueis respected his greatly too. It's Qui-Gon. May the Force be with you too😊
Plagueis didn't fear Qui-Gon, he RESPECTED him. There's a big difference. Kind of like Jedi Master Revan, during his 2nd stint as a Jedi, had a deep respect for Sith Lords. A respective that only comes from having experienced both sides multiple times. In Legends, Revan was twice a Jedi Master, and twice a Dark Lord of the Sith.
Another fantastic video from another fantastic channel. Keep up the great work don’t stop. Never forget the Sentinel Jedi or the ultimate line of defence😎
I'm skeptical, to say the least, in Sidious's claim he and Plagueis could go through the entire Jedi High Council, and at ease. Mace Windu, Yoda, Plo Koon, etc.
To be fair I’d be terrified of any Jedi played by Liam Neeson. Qui Gon Jinn: “There is something else behind all this, your Highness. There’s no logic in the Federation’s Move here. My feelings tell me they will destroy you.”
That’s crazy I never thought much of qui gon chin. Always just thought he was just a Jedi that was wiser then yoda and dooku but not only that but now knowing he was a threat to plaguious himself is shocking. I have waaay more respect for qui gon chin now
Qui-Gon was so incredibly dangerous to the Sith simply because he had his eyes open and really didn't give a damn about the jedi's precious code . He was a true jedi and followed the will of the force and not the will of the council .
Rather than making time destroying shows like the Acolyte, Disney should make a What IF ??? Show of Star Wars. The First Episode being, What IF Obi-wan died in place of Qui Gon during the battle with Darth Maul and Qui Gon taught Anakin.
The stupendous wave The force itself or qui gon jinn could’ve saved Anakin Skywalker, helping him reach his full potential achieve balance in the force, fulfill the prophecy of the chosen one destined to bring balance to the force Save his mother and be with Padme and his kids, right
Idk about the two Sith taking out the entire council at the same time. I think that was their pride speaking, hence why they didn’t do it. Yoda, Mace, Qui Gong, etc. I don’t think it would be so easy.
I refuse to believe Luke had the same force potential as Anakin. Maybe 90%. Full power Anakin would've been over the top. He would be able break your body with the force and then use the force to heal you. Wild.
@@carlosgaleotegandara7812 Yoda, at the lesser of his power beat Palpatine at the peak of his power ..who was easily more powerful than plageuis. Yoda at plageuis time wouldve been peak. He would definitely have beaten them
@@anubisgod23 palpatine defeated Yoda wich is common knowledge, and plagueis was more powerfull than sidius as he clearly had more knowledge about the force
All the Star Wars we have received we still have not gotten a What If. I would like to see this played out Quigon NOT dying. Does that make Luke and Leia terrible because they were raised by a Queen and a God? A New Sith Beginning? Does Luke go completely defiant? I think Anakin surviving and Luke and Leia growing up with him, they would have to be on the other side of things crescendo of their stories. Its supposed to rhyme, right ?
He was afraid of qui gon because The Sith could not hold political leverage over him.. The rest of the jedi was much too invested in the corrupt politics of the Republic and that ultimately led to their demise ... Qui gon wanted the jedi to pull away from politics and really wanted the jedi to move from Capitol of Coresant
I think Palps was a better duelist than Plagueis. Although Plagueis V Qui Gon would have been a super dope duel!! Plagueis would have won in the end... He was a Masters Master of the Blade!! The last handful of the line of Bane were incredibly powerful! So Sad that he didnt figure his apprentice would off him.... That only shows how Great Palps is tho!!! Then.... Disney had to F*** it up! They had Sooo many choices, books, comics and lore! But they decided to Slaughter our beloved franchise....
Sidious and Plagueis defenilty underestimates the jedi hige caunsel if they think they coud take them all at once and win. i dont remember if doku was a member at that time but both Yoda and windu was and they are NOT easy to deal with, and there is several others that is not easy either. if i remember correctly the jedi master that singel handedly stopped the destruction of corosount was part of it at the time to and they have some realy powerfull force powers to. and palpatine would not have been on the same lvl he was during the revenge of the sith. the members would not have been all over the galaxy on diferent war front and beeing weakend from years of war, there would have been no weak link in aniken at the time, and Yoda would have been more than a decade younger so might have been able to fight longer etc. IF the sith did win they might very well not have been able to kill all the jedi masters or stop them from sending a message atleast, and one of them would most likely have died during the battle and the other one would most likely be realy badly wounded because we are talking about a brutal fight aigenst several of the jedi orders strongest member
Man were they arrogant. Mace Windu and Yoda vs Sidious and Plagueis would have ended badly for the Sith. Mace clapped Sidious with relative ease. And Sidious genuinely feared Yoda.
We don't really know if Windu won or if Sidious let him in order to turn Anakin. But it is probable that Yoda at least was just as capable as Qui Gonn at seeing past everything. The reason why he couldn't was because of his place as the leader of Jedi. Because he had to help manage everyone else, his thoughts were clouded by their thoughts. But since Qui Gonn wasn't on the council, he was free to embrace the force fully with no distractions.
Sideous was very much a threat to Mace. Something Mace was VERY wary of watching 3 other Masters that shoulda been ALSO good fighters die.. BUT Sideous threw that one to further his plans in a calculated risk. Yoda though... Was a legit threat an coulda EASILY been the end of the Sith regardless of how powerfully Dark Sideous was, he STILL wasn't centuries a Grandmaster opposite
If child anakin knew what lies ahead for him as a jedi he would of wished he remained a slave your mother dying in your arms the cold treatment of the jedi the direct manipulation of a sith lord being mulated and set on fire being reduced to a piece of meat kept alive by tubes and wires its horrible what happens to this happy kid
When you can think outside the box, you become the threat to that box.
Well put.
Very wise in put.
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
Well said....😅
He had a particular set of skills...
He can tell you he doesn't have money.
LMAO
@SoN_oF_oDiN76 if you let Anakin go that'll be the end of it.
@@SuperMrDeadpool he won't look for you.
"Skills that make me a nightmare for sith like you"
Qui-Gon was the only Jedi at the time, who still believed the Force was guiding him fully. Dooku was more of a idealist and had his focus on politics and the upcoming darkness. Qui-Gon was not oblivious to the fact that the Sith had returned to some capacity and that’s why he felt so strongly in the Force to train Anakin, even trying to make the Council believe that Obi-Wan was ready for his trials to become a Knight so he could dedicate his time to Anakin. Sidious was right all along that the Jedi were too dogmatic and stuck in their ways. Hence, why Qui-Gon was the bigger threat at that point, even Plageuis was concerned of that fact.
Jedi code: listen to the Force. Jedi leaders: we gonna skip that part.
Lol, facts tho
😂😂😂😂
they had some of the worst leaders especially yoda
Qui-Gon was obviously not the most powerful Jedi in the Order, but arguably the *wisest,* because it seems even Yoda himself was blind to certain things that Qui-Gon was fully conscious of. It was that exceptional wisdom that scared the bejesus out of Plagueis.
Totally agree. Qui-Gon was the perfect Jedi
Master Qui-Gon Jinn is what every Jedi should be.
But yeah, that’s the reason why he was afraid of qui gon because he could’ve discovered them and finished the sith with the help of Anakin Skywalker
He was the one Jedi that knew immediately that the Sith were back in the mix.
As the readings from Plagueus novel in this video, Qui gon Gin is the only Jedi that trusted in Force absolutely.
@@frenzalrhomb6919 indeed
@@frenzalrhomb6919 DOOKU AS WELL
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They need a qui-gon series. One that doesn’t suck though.
don't count on them to not screw it up or worse make qui-gon gay or into a woman
@@sheilaolfieway1885 you see the south park episode? Make it gay, make it lame!!
@@sheilaolfieway1885 Why not knock it out of the park with a gay woman of color?? The force is female remember? Even Dave Females Only FEELS that way. It's not the script, acting or emotions that matter but which IDENTITY those involved have. The oligarch Lords (Disney, Amazon etc) think you should just STFU and LIKE IT! Of course it's shite but you ARE going to love it anyway! OR ELSE!
@@peter-radiantpipes2800 No but i saw the meme and i know disney wants to destroy everything... last i recall it was "put a women in it and make her gay."
“They’ll” turn him into a girl
Brilliant analysis SW.... so refreshing to hear lore explained with such accuracy and knowledge. Thank you, sir.
My pleasure!
This is why Master Qui Gon is my most favorite Jedi. Besides Luke and Revan
its simple.... he has a special set of skills and knows how to use them... and he is a tuff as coffin nails ooh and he would have taught Anikin to actually listen and not just hear the force.
What would be really cool is to see a series/film/series of films made, showing an alternate timeline where Anakin is trained by Qui-Gon Jinn.
Qui Gon surviving Episode 1 and training Anakin would make for a hell of a Star Wars infinities comic.
This is a slam-dunk of a video. Your knowledge of the Plagueis novel confirms that this is a must buy. Man I need to read this
Hey Stupendous Can we get a video on why the 3 sith holicron guardians each hated Darth Krayt and why they refused to help him? All have their reasons why, in life as well as in death.
Just another example of why Qui Gon Jinn was my favorite Jedi.
Do more about Qui-Gon Jinn and Plagueis video. This video is awesome.
Qui-Gon: Yo! Check out this kid I won in a bet.
Plaguies: Stop f***ing with my plans bruh!
Another great video! This book is GOLD! James Luceno really did his homework and created a masterpiece. Go figure
Yeah it was a very very good novel!!
My favorite novel
If only the Jedi were more like qui gon jinn the lore of Star Wars would have been complete different
They were at an earlier point.
@@marshaledrek71 they were but not by the time of the phantom menace
Qui-Gon Jinn the Jedi knight the Sith fear.
I think that this fear that Plagueis has of Qui-Gon was not Qui-Gon's power but who he would pass that torch of that power to and Anakin being the perfect opportunity for Qui-Gon to teach the ways of the True Jedi from the Old Republic and if he pours all that knowledge to Anakin if would've been GGs for the grand plan of the Sith
Love your holocrons! Especially Qui Gon Jinn stuff!
Qui-Gon was a maverick and didn't follow rules blindly. He was unpredictable, quiet, and observant. His bonds to Dooku and the Chosen one would of rewritten history. This was what made him dangerous.
Plagueis really said "It's so fucking over!"
The Sith have fallen, two must die
making a movie about Plagueis could be something.
He was afraid because he knew that Qui Gon would look for him, that he would find him, and that he’d kill him
Any Star Wars fans up for a "what if" scenario where Qui-Gon Jinn survives and trains Anakin?
Yep, it's probably one of, if not the most popular what if scenario in all of Star Wars.
the thing is, if disney did it the right way, they could make that into an amazing show but they won't
Thousands. It's like masturbatory material to content "creators"
@drifter139 with Disney's reputation, I wouldn't trust them to make it. Lucasfilm is probably the only one that could pull that off and not make it a shit show
I believe this. This would cause huge panic! Had Qui-Gon lived Plagueis would have to fight him.This is very nice story. Plagueis respected his greatly too. It's Qui-Gon. May the Force be with you too😊
Very interesting vid, thanks a lot! :)
Plagueis didn't fear Qui-Gon, he RESPECTED him. There's a big difference. Kind of like Jedi Master Revan, during his 2nd stint as a Jedi, had a deep respect for Sith Lords. A respective that only comes from having experienced both sides multiple times. In Legends, Revan was twice a Jedi Master, and twice a Dark Lord of the Sith.
That eould have been an amazing part of movie. Sadly we only got one movie with liam neson
Another fantastic video from another fantastic channel. Keep up the great work don’t stop. Never forget the Sentinel Jedi or the ultimate line of defence😎
Qui-Gon was the only Jedi to see through the shroud of dogma and complacency to follow the will of the Force.
I'm skeptical, to say the least, in Sidious's claim he and Plagueis could go through the entire Jedi High Council, and at ease. Mace Windu, Yoda, Plo Koon, etc.
To be fair I’d be terrified of any Jedi played by Liam Neeson.
Qui Gon Jinn: “There is something else behind all this, your Highness. There’s no logic in the Federation’s Move here. My feelings tell me they will destroy you.”
I got chills when I read the passage where Plagueis realises Jinn has to die in order to corrupt Anakin
Its the fate of galaxy if Qui-Gon lived, is why the battle theme is called 'Duel of Fates' as the literal fate of the galaxy is at stake.
Being called an acolyte now as an insult
oh get off your plastic horse
I agree, nobody wants that title
@@Kimmiebabi1468I'll take it
I’ll take it too, if only to try and make it great again.
That’s crazy I never thought much of qui gon chin. Always just thought he was just a Jedi that was wiser then yoda and dooku but not only that but now knowing he was a threat to plaguious himself is shocking. I have waaay more respect for qui gon chin now
I have recently started this book and find it quite interesting. I never realized how young Palpatine was when he was discovered by Plagueis.
He went on to bring justice to a city so corrupt that it needed to be destroyed.
Had jinn lived Anakin Skywalker wouldn't have went bad , He was the father figure Anakin always needed
He saw him and was like, "Oh Shit! That's Liam Neeson! 😮" and was, understandably, terrified."
Because he had a very particular set of skills
Very refreshing look on plaguies
I been watching you for years bro keep it up
Can you pls make a video about Odan Urr and Ven Zallow!!
Nice vid
I'm still pretty pleased that even tho the rule of two plan succeded, it wasn't with bumbs. And Qui Gon was a huge one at that
Qui-Gon was so incredibly dangerous to the Sith simply because he had his eyes open and really didn't give a damn about the jedi's precious code .
He was a true jedi and followed the will of the force and not the will of the council .
Rather than making time destroying shows like the Acolyte, Disney should make a What IF ??? Show of Star Wars. The First Episode being, What IF Obi-wan died in place of Qui Gon during the battle with Darth Maul and Qui Gon taught Anakin.
The stupendous wave The force itself or qui gon jinn could’ve saved Anakin Skywalker, helping him reach his full potential achieve balance in the force, fulfill the prophecy of the chosen one destined to bring balance to the force Save his mother and be with Padme and his kids, right
Yes, hell, is I can see Qui Gon not entering on the clone wars and Dooku wouldn't join Sidious or at least halt his steps on the dark side for awhile
The Universal Force vs the Living Force. Qui-Gon was that guy.
You have really been dropping the ball lately. He didn't meet qui gon on coruscant. They met during a negotiation on Sereno
Leesam Neemsan Jin.
I will do as I must quit gun jinn
can you do a video about the whole IBC
makes even more sense with how Obi Wan ended up in the end..
Plagueis was alive during the phantom menace? When did Palpatine exactly kill him?
Qui Gon wields the based side of the force
2 of the best characters
Idk about the two Sith taking out the entire council at the same time. I think that was their pride speaking, hence why they didn’t do it. Yoda, Mace, Qui Gong, etc. I don’t think it would be so easy.
Why did the Jedi council thought Obi-Wan is a a week lightsaber duelist
Because plageuis was afraid of drinking qui-gon's gin.
So what's Yoda role in all this things, just sit and do nothing?
Pretty much
Amazing
Got it ... Everyone fears Qui-Gon, the Jedi who died in a 2v1 (he had advantage...)
😂😂
Thank you for making good Star Wars content. You need to work for Disney!
Not plagueis! The powa of maaaaanyyyyyy!
Funny how everyone is apparently afraid of Qui Gon these days
“Train the boy.”
I refuse to believe Luke had the same force potential as Anakin. Maybe 90%. Full power Anakin would've been over the top. He would be able break your body with the force and then use the force to heal you. Wild.
Qui gon the real grand Master.
Did anybody else catch that at the beginning of the phantom menace obi won low-key sensed Palpatine moving through the shadows of the force.
Plageuis underestimated Yoda. Yoda wouldve been able to take sidings out
why ,even in canon yoda is a complete clown , not to mention taht plagueis knowledge of the force makes yoda look like a padawan
@@carlosgaleotegandara7812 Yoda, at the lesser of his power beat Palpatine at the peak of his power ..who was easily more powerful than plageuis. Yoda at plageuis time wouldve been peak. He would definitely have beaten them
@@anubisgod23 palpatine defeated Yoda wich is common knowledge, and plagueis was more powerfull than sidius as he clearly had more knowledge about the force
@@carlosgaleotegandara7812 except it isn't. Lucas confirmed that Yoda and Mace beat Palpatine.
@@anubisgod23 how is beating someone escaping from a fight? Source of lucas saying that?
All the Star Wars we have received we still have not gotten a What If. I would like to see this played out Quigon NOT dying. Does that make Luke and Leia terrible because they were raised by a Queen and a God? A New Sith Beginning? Does Luke go completely defiant? I think Anakin surviving and Luke and Leia growing up with him, they would have to be on the other side of things crescendo of their stories. Its supposed to rhyme, right ?
Did Plagueis know Maul killed Qui-Gon Jin or was he already killed by Palpatine in his sleep by then?
yes he did. he killed plagueis the day before being electer as chancellor
Plaguis preceded Qui Gon Jinn in death, by about 2 minutes.
I would have thought that the sith were afraid of anyone
I’m a Sith, but I still love Qui.
He was afraid of qui gon because The Sith could not hold political leverage over him.. The rest of the jedi was much too invested in the corrupt politics of the Republic and that ultimately led to their demise ... Qui gon wanted the jedi to pull away from politics and really wanted the jedi to move from Capitol of Coresant
Also if qui gonn had survived Dooku would have never embraced the dark side
Debatably sidious & playground would’ve been stopped by dooku & Yoda alone
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This is the power of Liam Neeson!
I think Palps was a better duelist than Plagueis.
Although Plagueis V Qui Gon would have been a super dope duel!! Plagueis would have won in the end...
He was a Masters Master of the Blade!!
The last handful of the line of Bane were incredibly powerful!
So Sad that he didnt figure his apprentice would off him....
That only shows how Great Palps is tho!!!
Then.... Disney had to F*** it up! They had Sooo many choices, books, comics and lore!
But they decided to Slaughter our beloved franchise....
i was gonna like this video before you said acolyte lol
Sidious and Plagueis defenilty underestimates the jedi hige caunsel if they think they coud take them all at once and win. i dont remember if doku was a member at that time but both Yoda and windu was and they are NOT easy to deal with, and there is several others that is not easy either. if i remember correctly the jedi master that singel handedly stopped the destruction of corosount was part of it at the time to and they have some realy powerfull force powers to. and palpatine would not have been on the same lvl he was during the revenge of the sith.
the members would not have been all over the galaxy on diferent war front and beeing weakend from years of war, there would have been no weak link in aniken at the time, and Yoda would have been more than a decade younger so might have been able to fight longer etc. IF the sith did win they might very well not have been able to kill all the jedi masters or stop them from sending a message atleast, and one of them would most likely have died during the battle and the other one would most likely be realy badly wounded because we are talking about a brutal fight aigenst several of the jedi orders strongest member
Did he blow up the Death Star? 😂
Thought it was ki adi mundi
The thing about the council is 🧢. The council had yoda , dooku, qui gon Jin , yaddlle etc more than enough
I don't get why they don't give us a animated series. This series would be non Canon but would show the results of qui gon winning the dual of fates.
Cause Disney
The story would just be enormously less interesting
Qui gon Jones
So palpatine had a maul as an apprentice before he killed his own master. Or am i missing something ? (still new to Star Wars)
Wait hold up Stupendous Wave. Did you really just say that A word again?🤣🤣🤣 and did you quote a bible verse?Nice👍🏽👍🏽
In relation to the movies, when was Darth Plaguis killed?
Day 558 of asking for a part 3 of what if anakin was trained by qui gon
Qui Gon Gin and tonic
Man were they arrogant. Mace Windu and Yoda vs Sidious and Plagueis would have ended badly for the Sith. Mace clapped Sidious with relative ease. And Sidious genuinely feared Yoda.
Both Mace and Yoda are some of the Top Tiered Jedi Masters. And Sidious and Plagueis are quite intelligent.
Sidious played Mace to bring Anakin over. He could've killed him anytime
@@vjbee292 George Lucas said Mace beat him fair and square
We don't really know if Windu won or if Sidious let him in order to turn Anakin. But it is probable that Yoda at least was just as capable as Qui Gonn at seeing past everything. The reason why he couldn't was because of his place as the leader of Jedi. Because he had to help manage everyone else, his thoughts were clouded by their thoughts. But since Qui Gonn wasn't on the council, he was free to embrace the force fully with no distractions.
Sideous was very much a threat to Mace. Something Mace was VERY wary of watching 3 other Masters that shoulda been ALSO good fighters die.. BUT Sideous threw that one to further his plans in a calculated risk. Yoda though... Was a legit threat an coulda EASILY been the end of the Sith regardless of how powerfully Dark Sideous was, he STILL wasn't centuries a Grandmaster opposite
He deserve better, but he going to train Anakin ❤🎉
Plagueis respected the purist. Not bound by tradition.
If child anakin knew what lies ahead for him as a jedi he would of wished he remained a slave your mother dying in your arms the cold treatment of the jedi the direct manipulation of a sith lord being mulated and set on fire being reduced to a piece of meat kept alive by tubes and wires its horrible what happens to this happy kid
Did he ever say he was afraid? Did he use that language in canon? Cause it doesn’t sound like something a Sith Lirx would say.