No cause the amount of people I’ve seen skimping over and defending him on TikTok is INSANE. Like they’re saying he wasn’t bad in this movie but he literally was??
At least in the book, I'm pretty sure he's not supposed to be particularly sympathetic - he's just a ruthless bastard who's also an underdog, so you kind of root for him anyway. People love underdogs, I'm sure I heard someone say that once. ;) Though I can imagine that that's a little too much nuance for a lot of people, sadly.
Weirdly, _Only Murders in the Building's_ last season also used laughably effective rat poison where a sprinkle on a cookie dropped a 190 lb man in 8 minutes. Seems the current crop of Hollywood writers can't be bothered to do a Wikipedia level of research.
@@drafezard7315 Dune isn't out yet, is it? Or do you mean part 1? In which case, it's the first half of one novel, the climax of the story hasn't really happened yet.
Lucy gray is her first name (her last name is Baird). It’s a double name like Lily Rose or Harvey Lee. It just sounds weird cuz it’s a made up name like most of the names in hunger games, but totally understand why you might find it annoying to hear over and over again.
This was the first movie I've ever seen where I genuinely wasn't sure what was supposed to be happening during the climax, or why things were even happening
If you didn’t read the book, I can definitely see why it would’ve been confusing. The book was amazing though! I have difficulty focusing when reading, but I had no trouble with Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes!
That "Oh my god what?" moment when they mention that the movie still had about an hour to it was my exact response when the film dragged on. It felt like that whole "Lucy Gray surviving the snakes while singing thing" was super climactic only for the tension to just flatten out afterwards until the film ended. I understand that this is pretty much how the book also went, but that's also the reason why film adaptations are "adaptations". A visual medium requires a more compact type of storytelling than a written medium.
Yup. Didn't think it was too bad because I was prepared, but there is such a thing as being TOO close to the book, and Francis Lawrence is the man for that. Now the other books are great, and Suzanne Collins is a genius, but seriously, her self-discipline went out the window with the prequel. It was much longer than the other books and had _major_ pacing issues. It would have needed a lot of changes to work as a movie. Instead those issues carried over.
S'why the 3rd Harry Potter movie cut out two of the quidditch matches. Yeah, the whole "Did Sirius Black send the Firebolt" was kinda interesting but really unnecessary for the actual story and the games were nice but irrelevant overall. Granted, sometimes it becomes a problem. Like "Why does Harry have a fragment of this mirror that Dumbledore's brother owns and why is he speaking into it?" which makes zero sense if you haven't read the books and still no sense if you have (since they changed too much and now it's nonsensical)
“Lucy Grey I’ll try to remember that” “Don’t worry sir you won’t have too because theirs gonna say her name 10,000 times” Lmao couldn’t be more spot on with that
During the movie, i never did understand any of Snow's motives. For instance, one second, he turns in his "friend," and the next, he looks shocked that he was killed.
Bc he thought Sejanus’s father would bail him out like he always did. He also thinks that bc he’s the one who sent in the evidence the father will know Snow killed his only child, so he’s upset he might be killed soon.
"About 6 more times than feels comfortable" is way too accurate. I consistently flipped between 'yah this is a decent movie' and 'was this produced by Disney'. Her singing was good but felt so out of place.
The fact that it feels out of place when the rest of the movie is so brutal in tone is the point - Lucy Gray’s singing sets her apart from the others and makes her stand out (she’s a performer at heart, and she’s the first to set that precedent for the Games becoming about spectacle)
@@violetlavi2207I get that point but having her sing a fun diddy one scene before she says “I still have one foot in the arena” really undermined the point of how much she might have been struggling to adjust. Tonally the whole third act seemed really off. Like they wanted us to get the constant sense of fear without it detracting from budding romance. Just like the original Hunger Games trilogy, the third act just REALLY misses the mark
@@violetlavi2207it was all over the place though. Slave accent and style songs one second, country accent and style songs the next and pop style singing the next. The singing inconsistency didn’t make sense at all and was actually super jarring. Should have been way more subtle and endearing
@@AwesTex I get what you mean but don't you think stuff that are tonally off in this way are still realistic? I'd argue real life is often tonally inconsistent like that. I just wonder where the line is or should be or where most people want the line to be between a piece of art that is realistic and that is congruent enough within itself. I felt fine with that tonal inconsistency because I often perceive it that way irl and it doesn't bother me. I'd like to understand your point of view better because I think most people feel this way whereas I tend to be much more fine with parts of the narrative seemingly being disconnected and chaotic. Like for example I really liked the "too funny" Thor movie and for me the comedy didn't at all take away from the drama. It made it more realistic to me. Life to me feels like a mixture of genres. Maybe it's just this way for people like me who can cry bcs of depressive feels, make a joke, crack at their own joke, then continue crying bcs of depressive feels. I'm just trying to understand the experience and the perception of people who notice these tonal inconsistencies - I only notice after someone points it out like you did. Though for me the third act did feel off as well and certain things felt off for me the whole time except maybe just during the games. I never really understood what Lucy Grey's deal is and I'm not sure if we were meant to or not, or if maybe her character is the type of person I'd find hard to read irl too.
"realistic" does not mean "good writing". If you're going to do a song that is tonally off for the situation on purpose, you have to do it tactfully. The original Willy Wonka movie is a great example. The songs are endearing and enchanting, but with an edge of mystery and unease. They're entirely designed to put you on the edge of comfort and intrigue. That's a much more deft hand than just jumping from one genre to another in way that feels anachronistic. @@essennagerry
In the book, he didn't provide her with the poison. He gave her the compact. She got the rat poison from the zoo where the tributes were being held. He gave her the idea, but not the poison.
@sergei_mikhailovich in the movie, he gave her the poison. In the book, he gave her the compact and the idea of using the rat poison which surrounded them at the zoo where tributes were imprisoned.
"Now every fart sounds like a secret 🤫" - they made an entire prequel movie just so this line could be created and said so eloquently. Thank you to the many hands involved
I actually think they paced the movie really well so idk how much good splitting it would have been tbh. Last part maybe have felt rushed but it was similar in the book so i wouldn’t say it’s the movies fault
the pitch meeting wouldnt be in black n white. do you think color was invented when the TV was made................................................................
Every time you say "aweoo!" I laugh heartily at how expressive and carefree it sounds. I hope it becomes a much more frequent catchphrase. Also, the "every fart sounds like a secret" delivery feels like a snippet of a commercial which I would love to see on your other channel. You're an addictive comedy treasure
Quick question Mr. George: are there any pitch meetings you wish you could redo because you feel like you didn't do a very good job/you've thought of a few really funny jokes you wish you'd included? Thanks again for the pitch meetings, they always manage to bring a smile to my face :)
OMG, I'm glad I wasn't the only one who felt like that! 😂 The first half was fun & fairly well-grounded if a little weird/irreverent, and then suddenly it turned into this sterile superhero blockbuster where the main characters threw each other all over the CBD with absolutely no apparent thought for how many people they were killing in the process, and frankly no apparent connection to the laws of physics either....
"Now every fart sounds like a secret"..........sigh.......I laughed so hard at that line.....paused the video, walked away, rewound it, watched it again, and completely lost it a second time.....I think it's the finger next to the chin move that sells it........Anyway, Ryan, you are an insane comedic genius.
I'm surprised you didn't mention the group of kids that for some reason wanted to kill Lucy but not eachother? Or how Snow and his friend got in and out of the arena like it was nothing... or how Snow made it back into district 12 and no one even questioned that he was missing😭
All those things are easily explained if you paid attention Making temporary alliances with enemies in dangerous situations is pretty common. It literally happened in all the other Hunger Games movies. Also some of them did in fact kill each other in this one Sejanus got in cuz he went in the middle of the night and bribed a peacekeeper. Snow got in cuz the head game maker arranged for him to. Also they barely got out alive
When did Snow go missing? You mean when he went to the lake? It was one afternoon, peacekeepers have days off too. Or are you referring to something else? I saw the movie twice, but it's been a couple of weeks now, so it's not as fresh in my memory
@@258Dandaman when he runs away with Lucy.He’s presumably missing for who knows how long and you can’t say it was on his days off because he jumps into a moving truck to move out of the barracks
Ok this might have actually benefitted from two movies. XD They could have used more of the slow burn romance and spiral that Snow went through. Fantastic as always!
Personally, having just read the book and seen this movie this week, I think a five part miniseries with about forty minute episodes would have been best.
i was hesitant to click on this video because i didn’t want spoilers, but even after watching this i still feel like i didn’t learn anything new about the movie! thanks trailers!
Wow, you've really cranked up all the dials of the Producer Guy this time. I don't think I've seen him quite like this before. Sure, there have been some pretty weird moments in the past, but this time it just feels like he has gone one step further than before.
I'm a sucker for on-the-nose metaphors and comparisons so I love the dynamic of "she's the songbird, he's the snake". Well-meant, joyful and artistic VS silent, calm and deadly. No, I have not read the book NOR seen the film.
Can I just take this moment to appreciate the fact that producer guy and writer guy used to be a bit purple, but are now perfectly color graded and have great lighting on them? Ryan is still improving.
Dude, I swear to God, “he sentences him to 20 years of being Eminem” is one of the best jokes I’ve heard on RUclips in months! I laughed so loud I had to roll the video back 20 seconds
Thank you, Ryan George. I didn't even know there was another Hunger Games movie. This pitch was even funnier because I haven't watched this one, and I don't have to suffer thru it like I painfully did with the older ones. Great job! ❤😂😂😂
"There's still about an hour left" "WHAT?!!!" Yeah...that right there. That was me in the cinema lmao I for sure thought the movie would end once Lucy Gray was the victor but then suddenly he's in district 12. Then he's suddenly shooting someone, getting a certain someone hanged, shooting Lucy Gray, poisoning Dinklage. Like WTF is going on 😂
Man that was fast! Well done. Love the channel but I enjoy the videos more that have the producer finding holes in the script and almost rolling his eyes at it.
This one Nailed it on the head, "Oh there's more movie? Oh yeah it drags on for another 2 parts. Are you finished? oh good I didn't really wanna pay attention to the last third anyways"
Another conspiracy theorist, eh? Sigh, they’re clearly different people. Just use your eyes! They’re wearing completely different clothes! And one’s a producer, and the other is a screenwriter! It would be too much for one person to have both jobs!
A valid point, most of the drama and conflict in this franchise is based on people constantly suffering, which is why the games were created in universe.
@colbywilson8790 probably. The only reason people accepted it back then is because it was final book in the series, so we all thought they would be better adaptations..... but, you know.... they were just money grabs. So that idea has been burned up due to misuse
I’ve read the book and was curious if the movie fixed any of the pacing issues (it definitely should have been two books, too)…so of course I turn to Ryan instead of buying a ticket. 😂
Just like the Hunger Games trilogy the ending was wildly unsatisfying. I also thought we’d get some understanding of what must have made Snow so callous and manipulative but no, he’s just kinda always been that way, apparently.
@@AwesTex I thought it was the fact that the war forced him and his family almost starve and loose everything they had. He hated district people because they took everything from him
I'd say the pacing was slightly worse than the book, although they cleaned up the narrative in a few places that made the overall story a bit more satisfying in my opinion.
@@kneo12please stop with that rethoric. Liking or not liking a single movie doesnt determine if you're fan of the franchise. You can hate a movie and like the rest of them and you're still a fan.
@@philtess3126 what the fuck are you talking about. People who read the original book will probably like the movie because they've had the context while people who haven't will leave confused.
@@philtess3126they didn't say you're a fan only if you like the movie. They say you'll like it if you're a fan. Most fans enjoy to movie because it's a solid adaptation of an appreciated book
"Injure these kids, handsome murder man" sounds like a demonic chant to a handsome devil 5th graders say in a bathroom before screaming and running iutside pretending they say something in the mirrors
"He sentences him to 20 years of being Eminem"
That was solid.
That's exactly what I thought about him at that point in the movie. He looks exactly like Eminem used to.
Ohh, that was TIGHT
@@gerry40404 Eminem basically owns the clean shaven white guy + short cropped blonde hair look now.
*8 Mile theme starts playing*
talk about a shady villain. but it makes sense, the odds of him getting away with that were slim.
"How to make a child murderer sympathetic? Make him handsome". Ouch, that is so accurate it hurt.
He’s about as handsome as phoebe wall bridge.
*Anakin liked that
No cause the amount of people I’ve seen skimping over and defending him on TikTok is INSANE. Like they’re saying he wasn’t bad in this movie but he literally was??
@@SeenAGreatLight Anakin was handsome, and mace Windu being a douche made him more sympathetic.
At least in the book, I'm pretty sure he's not supposed to be particularly sympathetic - he's just a ruthless bastard who's also an underdog, so you kind of root for him anyway. People love underdogs, I'm sure I heard someone say that once. ;)
Though I can imagine that that's a little too much nuance for a lot of people, sadly.
_The most effective rat poison to ever exist_ - Said with the enthusiasm of someone working in the naming things department!
Hey you referenced that other thing! 👍
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME!!!
The funny thing is that rat poison is basically just somewhat concentrated Advil. The writers clearly had no idea what they were doing...
@@АлексейХолодов-л4э I'm just gonna shorten that.
Weirdly, _Only Murders in the Building's_ last season also used laughably effective rat poison where a sprinkle on a cookie dropped a 190 lb man in 8 minutes. Seems the current crop of Hollywood writers can't be bothered to do a Wikipedia level of research.
“That’s a good point no one’s ever happy.”
I was not ready for that accurate statement.
"We are SO expendable, my dude! Hold me"
"I'M IN!"
That got me. Good sign for the episode
Me too!
"There's still about an hour left though."
You know someone in the audience had this realization while watching the movie and wept a little.
That was me.
To be fair, I made that exact realization for the new Dune film. Having the climax happen 90 min into a 150 min film brought it down so hard.
I was there. I had this realization. It was like “Prostate Exam: The Sequel”.
@@drafezard7315 Dune isn't out yet, is it? Or do you mean part 1? In which case, it's the first half of one novel, the climax of the story hasn't really happened yet.
I had that feeling after the Riddler arrest scene in The Batman. Good film but damn, that last hour is brutal.
High amount of pitch meeting lore in this one.
I just can't tell which of these guys is the boss because neither one has a commanding mustache.
Pitch meeting lore is TIGHT!
@mipmipmipmipmip yea yea yea yea... yea!
@mipmipmipmipmipNo; it was super easy - barely an inconvenience!
@@matthewpatrick7263oh really?
"Surviving because of how much you smell is tight."
Well said.
May The Stench Be Ever in Your favor!
May The Odors Be Ever In Your Favor
May the Old Spice be ever nearby.
Wow wow wow.
Wow.
May the stench be with you.
20 years of Eminem sounds terrible.
4:19 The fact that there was a whole movie after the movie was insane😂
True. Also true that "Part 1" would not have been well received. Sometimes books just aren't meant to be made into movies.
YES I WAS SHOOK
That'll teach people to complain about Return of the King 😂
It was still really good movie though
@@thebashfulturtle9987definitely wasn’t brother
Yes! Thank you! They said "lucy gray" like a 100 times in the movie!
As well as the book.
I hate you more than you will ever know
Lucy gray is her first name (her last name is Baird). It’s a double name like Lily Rose or Harvey Lee. It just sounds weird cuz it’s a made up name like most of the names in hunger games, but totally understand why you might find it annoying to hear over and over again.
@@flamingsword7341lots of the names have deeper meanings to them. Lucy gray is a poem about a girl who got lost in the snow . It’s very poetic
@@WillHol29 ooh I didn't know that. neat!
Watching a Pitch Meeting for a movie you didn't even know came out is TIGHT!
Lmaooo
And it’s super-easy, barely an inconvenience!
I knew about it but I saved my money from a box office flop
Wow wow wow............................................................................................................wow.
@@my3dviews oh saying wow multiple times is tight!
I like how they just kept calling that guy 'kid murder man' instead of his name...solid stuff right there!
😅😂. and “he kid murders”
You mean CoralAnus?
I mean, his name is Coral Anus, so probably better that way.
@@factorfitness3713Lmao
@@factorfitness3713Fun fact: Coriolanus is a Shakespeare play
"you've got a movie for me?"
"Hitler, but young, and HOT."
- an actual pitch meeting 10 years from now probably.
for real though, we can seemingly romanticize any of history's tyrants except that guy for some reason
@@Monkchelle_Kongbama Give it time, or more exactly give Qatar time
"Napoleon" pitch meeting seems to have been "take the guy who brought needless slaughter and suffering to much of Europe but make it EPIC looking!"
A young, hot, black, bi-sexual girl Hitler ethnically cleansing a certain race "between the river and the sea". Netflix will love it.
@@Monkchelle_Kongbama
Hither has been romanticized alot in conspiracy theories
That's that most unsettling part
Such a bad idea to have a drink while hearing "the colon would be silent". Apparently, there are many orifices that pop can use to evacuate the body.
Funniest comment I've read all month.
"So he sentences him to twenty years of being Eminem." Priceless! Thanks, Ryan, for another Pitch Meeting and more good laughs!
Lol ikr? I said the same to my husband in the theater haha
This was the first movie I've ever seen where I genuinely wasn't sure what was supposed to be happening during the climax, or why things were even happening
Same o.o
? What are you confused about. Maybe I could explain some stuff?
That’s cause they crammed a huge book that was all internal dialogue into one movie and left you to assume so much
If you didn’t read the book, I can definitely see why it would’ve been confusing. The book was amazing though! I have difficulty focusing when reading, but I had no trouble with Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes!
@@MegaJestify Kinda, but a lot of stuff is just done very subtle. Like slight face expressions by Snow.
That "We're both so disposable" bit was pure gold. Also, sentenced to be Eminem for twenty years got me to inhale my drink.
I would never risk trying to drink something while watching one of these
It's only bad if you get the first 20.
@@jimdoherty4108 I guess it's better than inhaling a little bit of "THE MOST EFFECTIVE REST POISON TO EVER EXIST!"
“Coral anus” is a great joke but getting surgery sponsored by unesco is an even better one 😂
Few will catch that, but 🤣we did. 👍
I liked "my farts sound like secrets"
Elaborate, please. I am too dumb to get them.
I fucking lol'd
The colon whisper was absolutely hilarious.
That "Oh my god what?" moment when they mention that the movie still had about an hour to it was my exact response when the film dragged on. It felt like that whole "Lucy Gray surviving the snakes while singing thing" was super climactic only for the tension to just flatten out afterwards until the film ended. I understand that this is pretty much how the book also went, but that's also the reason why film adaptations are "adaptations". A visual medium requires a more compact type of storytelling than a written medium.
Yup. Didn't think it was too bad because I was prepared, but there is such a thing as being TOO close to the book, and Francis Lawrence is the man for that. Now the other books are great, and Suzanne Collins is a genius, but seriously, her self-discipline went out the window with the prequel. It was much longer than the other books and had _major_ pacing issues. It would have needed a lot of changes to work as a movie. Instead those issues carried over.
S'why the 3rd Harry Potter movie cut out two of the quidditch matches. Yeah, the whole "Did Sirius Black send the Firebolt" was kinda interesting but really unnecessary for the actual story and the games were nice but irrelevant overall.
Granted, sometimes it becomes a problem. Like "Why does Harry have a fragment of this mirror that Dumbledore's brother owns and why is he speaking into it?" which makes zero sense if you haven't read the books and still no sense if you have (since they changed too much and now it's nonsensical)
“Lucy Grey I’ll try to remember that”
“Don’t worry sir you won’t have too because theirs gonna say her name 10,000 times”
Lmao couldn’t be more spot on with that
“Now every fart sounds like a secret.”
That killed me lmao.
Did it kill you because silent farts are deadly? 😏
A sentence none of us expected to hear...
🤣 that part
the rat poison killed me
Same! Good old fashioned gut buster, there! ^^
"We should hug each other after this"
I'd love to see Ryan hugging himself. Prob be super easy, barely an inconvenience
Hugging yourself is tight.
"handsome kid murder-man" is not a phrase I woke up today expecting to hear 😂
During the movie, i never did understand any of Snow's motives. For instance, one second, he turns in his "friend," and the next, he looks shocked that he was killed.
Bc he thought Sejanus’s father would bail him out like he always did. He also thinks that bc he’s the one who sent in the evidence the father will know Snow killed his only child, so he’s upset he might be killed soon.
Snow very, very clearly states he wants to return to the capital, and to his family.
"About 6 more times than feels comfortable" is way too accurate. I consistently flipped between 'yah this is a decent movie' and 'was this produced by Disney'. Her singing was good but felt so out of place.
The fact that it feels out of place when the rest of the movie is so brutal in tone is the point - Lucy Gray’s singing sets her apart from the others and makes her stand out (she’s a performer at heart, and she’s the first to set that precedent for the Games becoming about spectacle)
@@violetlavi2207I get that point but having her sing a fun diddy one scene before she says “I still have one foot in the arena” really undermined the point of how much she might have been struggling to adjust. Tonally the whole third act seemed really off. Like they wanted us to get the constant sense of fear without it detracting from budding romance. Just like the original Hunger Games trilogy, the third act just REALLY misses the mark
@@violetlavi2207it was all over the place though. Slave accent and style songs one second, country accent and style songs the next and pop style singing the next. The singing inconsistency didn’t make sense at all and was actually super jarring. Should have been way more subtle and endearing
@@AwesTex I get what you mean but don't you think stuff that are tonally off in this way are still realistic? I'd argue real life is often tonally inconsistent like that. I just wonder where the line is or should be or where most people want the line to be between a piece of art that is realistic and that is congruent enough within itself. I felt fine with that tonal inconsistency because I often perceive it that way irl and it doesn't bother me. I'd like to understand your point of view better because I think most people feel this way whereas I tend to be much more fine with parts of the narrative seemingly being disconnected and chaotic. Like for example I really liked the "too funny" Thor movie and for me the comedy didn't at all take away from the drama. It made it more realistic to me. Life to me feels like a mixture of genres. Maybe it's just this way for people like me who can cry bcs of depressive feels, make a joke, crack at their own joke, then continue crying bcs of depressive feels. I'm just trying to understand the experience and the perception of people who notice these tonal inconsistencies - I only notice after someone points it out like you did.
Though for me the third act did feel off as well and certain things felt off for me the whole time except maybe just during the games. I never really understood what Lucy Grey's deal is and I'm not sure if we were meant to or not, or if maybe her character is the type of person I'd find hard to read irl too.
"realistic" does not mean "good writing".
If you're going to do a song that is tonally off for the situation on purpose, you have to do it tactfully. The original Willy Wonka movie is a great example. The songs are endearing and enchanting, but with an edge of mystery and unease. They're entirely designed to put you on the edge of comfort and intrigue.
That's a much more deft hand than just jumping from one genre to another in way that feels anachronistic. @@essennagerry
This is the funniest one I've seen in quite a bit. I actually laughed out loud when the producer yawned.
You laughed out loud!? You madman!
I actually yawned just before he did.
Then his yawn made me yawn again.
I'm so excited not to see this movie.
I'm so glad that he did. I was getting bored of this video, but his yawn confirmed to me how boring the story was.
First Eminem shows up in Mordor in Rings of Power, now he's in Panem. The dude gets around.
... please stand up
He has a driver names Stan
I'm thankful because these films would feel so empty without him.
Try to sleep through the night or you'll notice him standing silently over your bed, staring 🛌😱
Eminem even took a detour into Fortnite, SlimShady is wild
I love that he brought back the "Oh!" "Oooh!" Catchphrase 😆
In the book, he didn't provide her with the poison. He gave her the compact. She got the rat poison from the zoo where the tributes were being held. He gave her the idea, but not the poison.
@sergei_mikhailovich in the movie, he gave her the poison. In the book, he gave her the compact and the idea of using the rat poison which surrounded them at the zoo where tributes were imprisoned.
@@SarahOchsenbein oh, sorry, I misread your original post. I haven't read the book yet
I don't mind this change. President Snow's preferred way of getting rid of political rivals is poison, so starting this here works
Thats actually better
1:38 that brick joke was so well connected and written and unexpected that it makes me love the writing of this even more
I seriously watch anything I don’t want to pay in theatres through this series
I’ll still watch these, even if I do watch the movie in theaters.
Me too 😂
At this point, my movie-watching is pretty much all done here.
I saw it today. It’s a pretty good movie imo.
I havent watched any movie in years but Pitch Meetings are Just a must have for e xD
The amount of times I've been informed of a movie I didn't know existed by the Pitch meeting video for it is more than I expected it to be
"Now every fart sounds like a secret 🤫" - they made an entire prequel movie just so this line could be created and said so eloquently. Thank you to the many hands involved
Many hands involved? I'm not sure you know how farts work.
@@ZootSuitNewt Well, not with that attitude...
As a Hunger Games fan I loved all of these: The Book, The Movie and The Pitch Meeting :D
UNESCO covering the cost of surgery is one of the most wonderfully random yet on point references ever.
Everyone: We’re so sick of these movies unnecessarily splitting into two parts.
Ballad of songbirds and snakes: Soooo… what do we do here?
😅😅😅😅
i thought the movie was great obviously they couldn’t show all the love build up but i would prefer that then two movies
I actually think they paced the movie really well so idk how much good splitting it would have been tbh. Last part maybe have felt rushed but it was similar in the book so i wouldn’t say it’s the movies fault
Didn't they write the book specifically so they cook make a movie?
put a chick in it and make it lame and gay
The Eminem bit got me laughing so hard I almost coughed a lung. As always genius pitch meeting
Time stamp?
STAN LIVES 👐 It was all a dream
I'd love to see some old movie pitch meetings. Maybe a Film Noir, or Gone with the Wind. Go black and white on the pitch meeting.
He did that with Dumbo
Do it in Black and White.
Or better….a Silent Movie Pitch Meeting.🤣
the pitch meeting wouldnt be in black n white. do you think color was invented when the TV was made................................................................
@@kool4209 Obviously it was. If color existed before then, why would old videos and photos be in black and white?
Citizen Kane is ripe for parody.
Every time you say "aweoo!" I laugh heartily at how expressive and carefree it sounds. I hope it becomes a much more frequent catchphrase. Also, the "every fart sounds like a secret" delivery feels like a snippet of a commercial which I would love to see on your other channel. You're an addictive comedy treasure
From now on when I let out a silent fart I expected to be loud, I'm gonna follow up with "that one was a secret" and then go about my day.
Great overview of the film.
From now on I will refer to The Hunger Games as "The Child Murder Games." LOL
I mean, that's what they really are.
"kid-murder-man" = best villain name ever
"Injure those kids, handsome murder man!" - This is the kind of writing I'm here for :D
0:59 “actually its going to be super easy, barely an inconvenience” line
Holy crap that Coriolanus joke was elaborate as FK. Damn. Three stages, all of them smart, creative and funny. Wow.
I'm thankful for Ryan George Pitch Meetings. Thank you!
Quick question Mr. George: are there any pitch meetings you wish you could redo because you feel like you didn't do a very good job/you've thought of a few really funny jokes you wish you'd included? Thanks again for the pitch meetings, they always manage to bring a smile to my face :)
He's revisited old pitch meetings before, and discussed how he feels about them.
He does something like that. Go to this channels playlists, Pitch Meetings Revisited.
Regrets, he has a few; but too few to mention...
@@3sourisHe did what he had to do…
"Now every fart sounds like a secret." 🤣 Needs to be a tee shirt, w/Producer guy's face & hand from 1:40
I really enjoyed this movie. It was the first hunger games for me and I'm like 40 years old.
Didn't think it was possible for these to keep getting better and better and yet here we are. Pure gold!
Watching the pitch meeting a few hours after I saw the movie is tight
It's been twelve pitch meetings and six revisit pitch meetings since Bryan George made an appearance, please bring him back. #BryanGeorge
His shows is always funnier when he does them himself
@@realitymatters4745 watch the end of interstellar pitch meeting. You'd understand lol
Hey, that reminded me of Hancock. When you got to the point where it felt like a whole second movie was starting.
OMG, I'm glad I wasn't the only one who felt like that! 😂 The first half was fun & fairly well-grounded if a little weird/irreverent, and then suddenly it turned into this sterile superhero blockbuster where the main characters threw each other all over the CBD with absolutely no apparent thought for how many people they were killing in the process, and frankly no apparent connection to the laws of physics either....
"Now every fart sounds like a secret"..........sigh.......I laughed so hard at that line.....paused the video, walked away, rewound it, watched it again, and completely lost it a second time.....I think it's the finger next to the chin move that sells it........Anyway, Ryan, you are an insane comedic genius.
I'm surprised you didn't mention the group of kids that for some reason wanted to kill Lucy but not eachother? Or how Snow and his friend got in and out of the arena like it was nothing... or how Snow made it back into district 12 and no one even questioned that he was missing😭
Super easy! Barely an inconvenience!
All those things are easily explained if you paid attention
Making temporary alliances with enemies in dangerous situations is pretty common. It literally happened in all the other Hunger Games movies. Also some of them did in fact kill each other in this one
Sejanus got in cuz he went in the middle of the night and bribed a peacekeeper.
Snow got in cuz the head game maker arranged for him to. Also they barely got out alive
@@258Dandamandidn’t explain how at the end snow didn’t get questioned at all for having been missing and then just showing back up at 12
When did Snow go missing? You mean when he went to the lake? It was one afternoon, peacekeepers have days off too.
Or are you referring to something else? I saw the movie twice, but it's been a couple of weeks now, so it's not as fresh in my memory
@@258Dandaman when he runs away with Lucy.He’s presumably missing for who knows how long and you can’t say it was on his days off because he jumps into a moving truck to move out of the barracks
the quick "uh-oh" is so under rated.
I had no idea there was even a 4th book until like a year ago. I didn't know they made a movie from it until I saw the notification for this video.
Him checking his watch towards the end was me in the theater needing to use the bathroom 😂
This movie is really going to make things hard for kids named Childmurderman
Ok this might have actually benefitted from two movies. XD They could have used more of the slow burn romance and spiral that Snow went through. Fantastic as always!
Personally, having just read the book and seen this movie this week, I think a five part miniseries with about forty minute episodes would have been best.
Possibly, they kinda missed a subplot in the Film that could have been included.@@tiberiushazo6326
Watching Pitch Meetings of movies you didn’t even know came out is tight!
i was hesitant to click on this video because i didn’t want spoilers, but even after watching this i still feel like i didn’t learn anything new about the movie! thanks trailers!
Wow, you've really cranked up all the dials of the Producer Guy this time. I don't think I've seen him quite like this before. Sure, there have been some pretty weird moments in the past, but this time it just feels like he has gone one step further than before.
I'm a sucker for on-the-nose metaphors and comparisons so I love the dynamic of "she's the songbird, he's the snake".
Well-meant, joyful and artistic VS silent, calm and deadly.
No, I have not read the book NOR seen the film.
3:07 the hanging tree has such important unifying themes!!! It’s origin story is so central.
Also I Loved ALL the songs they’re so good
The coral joke may be my new favorite throwaway line ever.
Well, this just made my Thanksgiving, thanks Ryan!
Can I just take this moment to appreciate the fact that producer guy and writer guy used to be a bit purple, but are now perfectly color graded and have great lighting on them? Ryan is still improving.
I've left a couple comments in the past saying "how is it that your eye color is purple?" and now I have an answer, thank you.
I LIKE PURPLE
tf you even talkin about
Don't do drugs kids
Dude, I swear to God, “he sentences him to 20 years of being Eminem” is one of the best jokes I’ve heard on RUclips in months! I laughed so loud I had to roll the video back 20 seconds
Thank you, Ryan George. I didn't even know there was another Hunger Games movie. This pitch was even funnier because I haven't watched this one, and I don't have to suffer thru it like I painfully did with the older ones. Great job! ❤😂😂😂
So thankful for this Pitch Meeting for giving me a good reason to avoid my family for 5 minutes 🙏❤️
Love to see the ring on Screenwriter Guy's hand. Congratulations also to Screenwriter Girl!
Watching the film ✖️
Watching the pitch meeting ✔️
Weak
But the movie was good . . .
@@museofthesea Rachel zegler 🤢
@@thatGuywhocaredher work in the movie was good, she's certainly not as bad as Bree Larson, and at least works well for the film.
"There's still about an hour left"
"WHAT?!!!"
Yeah...that right there. That was me in the cinema lmao
I for sure thought the movie would end once Lucy Gray was the victor but then suddenly he's in district 12. Then he's suddenly shooting someone, getting a certain someone hanged, shooting Lucy Gray, poisoning Dinklage. Like WTF is going on 😂
I feel like they really wanted to punish us for complaining about movies being split into two
I just watched this last night and I thought the movie was done after the games... but nope... there was an entire movie after the games ended lol
I'm not even going to watch the movie but you better believe I clicked thumbs up three times.
Man that was fast! Well done. Love the channel but I enjoy the videos more that have the producer finding holes in the script and almost rolling his eyes at it.
One of the funniest in a while, Ryan! Knocked it out of the park.
Hysterical like usual! Honestly found the final hour of the movie the most interesting and believable tbh...
These just get better and better. The secret fart joke just killed me.
Oh boy! Pitch meetings for movies I didn't even know were happening are tight!
Seriously. I didn't realize this movie already released. That's how little I care about Hollywood these days.
This one Nailed it on the head, "Oh there's more movie? Oh yeah it drags on for another 2 parts. Are you finished? oh good I didn't really wanna pay attention to the last third anyways"
After watching 100 episodes of Pitch Meeting, I vagely beginning to suspect these two characters being one person😅😅😅
Another conspiracy theorist, eh? Sigh, they’re clearly different people. Just use your eyes! They’re wearing completely different clothes! And one’s a producer, and the other is a screenwriter! It would be too much for one person to have both jobs!
That character will need you to get ALL the way off his back about it! XD
Being two people at once is TIGHT!
Listen, they couldn't be the same person, ok? The screenwriter guy has glasses and the other one doesn't! 'nuff said!
How? One wears glasses, the other doesn't. They can't be the same person. They are even in the same room at the same time!
"Now every fart sounds like a secret"
you cannot tell me this wasnt a random punch line he wrote an entire joke around. you just cant
I love how Screenwriter Guy picked up "Kid-Murder Man" and ran with it. 😂
The emphatic body language of Director Guy in this episode is on point! 😎👉
How do you keep getting better, pitch meeting is consistently fun to watch
It's because movie writing keeps getting progressively worse. More stuff to saterize and make fun of. 😂 DJ xSUBn
Being quite a little bit too personal is TIGHT!😅😂🎉❤
It’s so validating having opinions about a movie, and then hearing Ryan repeat those opinions.
I think the word is Echo Chamber.
Yay! Just watched this movie last night and HOPED there was a Pitch Meeting, and THERE WAS!
0:19 Ouch. That comment drew blood.
I’m more excited for Pitch Meetings than the actual movie!
“No one is ever happy”
It hit me harder than it should’ve
I mean.... he's not wrong
A valid point, most of the drama and conflict in this franchise is based on people constantly suffering, which is why the games were created in universe.
I’m telling you if they had split the movie in two people would’ve given just as much flak as it’s getting now. People can’t make up their minds lol.
@colbywilson8790 probably. The only reason people accepted it back then is because it was final book in the series, so we all thought they would be better adaptations..... but, you know.... they were just money grabs. So that idea has been burned up due to misuse
Internet movie criticism is getting pretty ridiculous, no money in ever being happy so lets just blast every movie ever.
I’ve read the book and was curious if the movie fixed any of the pacing issues (it definitely should have been two books, too)…so of course I turn to Ryan instead of buying a ticket. 😂
Just like the Hunger Games trilogy the ending was wildly unsatisfying. I also thought we’d get some understanding of what must have made Snow so callous and manipulative but no, he’s just kinda always been that way, apparently.
@@AwesTexSome people don't need a tragic backstory. Some people are just born monsters
@@AwesTex I thought it was the fact that the war forced him and his family almost starve and loose everything they had. He hated district people because they took everything from him
I'd say the pacing was slightly worse than the book, although they cleaned up the narrative in a few places that made the overall story a bit more satisfying in my opinion.
For some reason, Kid Murder Man actually sounds like a super hero I would root for.
Ryan watches the movies so we don’t have to.
Dude is a saint.
Yep…5 minutes instead of 2 hours that I’ll never get back.
Ballad of songbirds is good IF you're a hunger games fan
@@kneo12please stop with that rethoric. Liking or not liking a single movie doesnt determine if you're fan of the franchise. You can hate a movie and like the rest of them and you're still a fan.
@@philtess3126 what the fuck are you talking about.
People who read the original book will probably like the movie because they've had the context while people who haven't will leave confused.
@@philtess3126they didn't say you're a fan only if you like the movie. They say you'll like it if you're a fan. Most fans enjoy to movie because it's a solid adaptation of an appreciated book
Goodness, Ryan is so great I genuinely didn't notice the lack of jokes.
"Barely an inconvenience."
Like his farts, not making jokes is secret
“He sentences him to 20 years of being Eminem”
I’m so dead 💀😂
"Injure these kids, handsome murder man" sounds like a demonic chant to a handsome devil 5th graders say in a bathroom before screaming and running iutside pretending they say something in the mirrors
Damnit man! You made me damn near spit my drink in multiple occasions! I finally just had to set it down. This was a good one!