Yes, this baby TL2 has only 80L (the whole speaker). It is my attempt of creating a TL2 with higher WAF Yet still with The original dynamics. It will take some time but for the moment it sounds promising
Hands down the TL2. I haven't had the CNO4 long enough to pass a fair judgment but I tend to prefer High efficiency and big boxes over modern size speakers. With the TL2 (the original one) you get envelopes in a huge sound stage. Dynamics are crazy and sounstage and mids are too die for. The only problem is size and cost. And... Big boxes should be build with strong materials and lots of bracing, I often see people "spending" lots of money on the kit and then building a box out of MDF... such a waste!
Unfortunately haven't heard the A50, would love too. Commercial speakers wise- I would put them in the same boat as Goebel Divin Marquis. I heard them last year in Munich and thought- Very similar sound signature! Again-very much depends on how and from what materials the TL2 are being made. If you put them in a 30-70Sqm room with proper acoustics and gear they will walk over some very expensive speakers
@@noamgellerdiyWow amazing man. For TL2 to be at the level of divin marquis.. truly mind blowing. My audio buddy doesn't believe it but I believe you. I think Troels is a genius!
@@Smood47 Well some words for your friend then :) -Everybody are using the same drivers and crossover components, using the same old ways of calculating response... there is a saying in German "everybody bakes bread with flour and water". -High End speakers are obliged to have high end prices if they want to attract the costumers. The general crowd still believe that "If it doesn't cost as much as competitor speaker B then it must be worse", pushing the high end industry into a ridiculous pathetic price inflation that seems to get out of control in the last 15 years. - Have you noticed that Goebel Subwoofers Divin Sovereign seems to use the same BMS 18n860? look it up, the driver seems to be identical.
Can't wait to see the chamfers and slopes cuts of the final cabinet. It will be hard to beat the design of your version of the TL2!
I hear the Dynamic - on my Thinkpad 😍 - well done Noam !!!
Thank you Oscar!! I am thrilled that the experiment works 🙌
sounds tight, very nice
It appears smaller than the regular tl2. Could you elaborate a bit on the differences?
Yes, this baby TL2 has only 80L (the whole speaker). It is my attempt of creating a TL2 with higher WAF Yet still with The original dynamics. It will take some time but for the moment it sounds promising
Subscribed. Is that a 10inch bass driver in a sealed box?
Thanks! 12inch sealed
What Woofer are you running now?
BMS 12N630
Yep, that works
Thanks mate🙏🏼
By the way you had another TL2 demo with white speakers.. did you delete that video ?
So which troels speaker do you like the best out of the ones you've built/heard
Hands down the TL2. I haven't had the CNO4 long enough to pass a fair judgment but I tend to prefer High efficiency and big boxes over modern size speakers. With the TL2 (the original one) you get envelopes in a huge sound stage. Dynamics are crazy and sounstage and mids are too die for. The only problem is size and cost. And... Big boxes should be build with strong materials and lots of bracing, I often see people "spending" lots of money on the kit and then building a box out of MDF... such a waste!
@@noamgellerdiyHave you heard the A50-mk2? Also how did the TL2 compare to commercial speakers you have heard ?
Unfortunately haven't heard the A50, would love too.
Commercial speakers wise- I would put them in the same boat as Goebel Divin Marquis. I heard them last year in Munich and thought- Very similar sound signature! Again-very much depends on how and from what materials the TL2 are being made. If you put them in a 30-70Sqm room with proper acoustics and gear they will walk over some very expensive speakers
@@noamgellerdiyWow amazing man. For TL2 to be at the level of divin marquis.. truly mind blowing. My audio buddy doesn't believe it but I believe you. I think Troels is a genius!
@@Smood47 Well some words for your friend then :)
-Everybody are using the same drivers and crossover components, using the same old ways of calculating response... there is a saying in German "everybody bakes bread with flour and water".
-High End speakers are obliged to have high end prices if they want to attract the costumers. The general crowd still believe that "If it doesn't cost as much as competitor speaker B then it must be worse", pushing the high end industry into a ridiculous pathetic price inflation that seems to get out of control in the last 15 years.
- Have you noticed that Goebel Subwoofers Divin Sovereign seems to use the same BMS 18n860? look it up, the driver seems to be identical.