I played with the Circle looper across 3 sessions, rereading the manual each time between. I still didn't wrap my head around everything until I saw this video. After the video I thought --for the fourth time-- that I understood what all lights and buttons did in the various modes. This morning I gave it another shot, and yes, your video did the trick. Clear, thank you.
I bought one ages ago and never really got to grips with it, even though i'm a bit of a techy!. Your video is the best and easiest explanation of how it works, thank you!
I just bought this looper, and it arrived in the mail yesterday so I'm excited to get to work with it. Your tutorial review is very helpful. Thanks for posting.
Here in Canada , this pedal goes for $211 + taxes cnd funds,I wouldn't call it affordable, it's got its pros and cons like every other pedal,right now I'm torn between this and the Boss rc5
This review sold me. Have the Donner mini looper and it’s great. Now I want this expanded slot looper. Found the Donner portal on Facebook which shows currency and free shipping to Canada. You made one GREAT video.
@@celestinorodrigues5239 Yes it is ! Check " 4:11 Recording a Loop" ! Get an ( 3 way or more etc ) extension cord > with an ON OFF < switch ! Depends how many Effects pedals you use - All GUITAR effects pedals are on standby & need a > multi effects power supply < ! ( unless those powered with a 9 volt battery or Power adapter ) ! The Circle Looper alone needs a 9 Volt Power adapter with 300 ma ( Depends wich Country you live in ! )
112 euro is he cheapest I can find on the web sir. Still very cheap, and I like this . may get one to replace my Mooer groove pedal.looper. Good mojo review sir.
Can you upload your memory banks to computer so as to have a song archive of ideas that you can load in and out of the looper? Hope I asked that it correctly-looking for a looper that can act as a sketch pad of sorts for song ideas.
Hi, I think it’s possible, it has a micro usb connection on the front. In the manual it says you can download a software where you can manage the memory slots and add backing tracks etc. I searched for the software online but I couldn’t find it, i think it’s not available yet :)
@@SRguitar Hi , thx for your video, prepared (not another unboxing video), tips, etc. The software is avaible, but a little bit hidden... You can find the "Download" button at the far bottom of the pages of products on Donnerdeal.com or directly here : www.donnerdeal.com/pages/download Section "Looper", you'll find the pdf manual and the softwares for Mac or Windows. Seems that you can download only the loops, not the drums. You can upload .mp3, .wav or else. I just discovered this pedal two weeks ago, and I've still have lot of questions... Few answers would be great. - mainly, what about the stereo ouptputs ? My dream is that it would be as on the Digitech TrioBandCreator+ : the possibility to route the drums to another amp (to keep this sound always clean) but not the guitar (to a full tubes amp in my case, as I like the drive of the power stage). - when overdubbing lot of times, still the sound clean, the level unaffected ? - Docs says 40 saves, max 4min each save, 160min total. Can we upload a 3-4min backing track, and overdub 3-4min ? Or the total time for each memory is 4 min max, anyway (backing+total of overdubs) ? - about metronom, all the 10 rythmes are with sticks sound, or a click, a bassdrum, a clave are avaible ? Thank you very much in advance if you have few informations more ;-)
In reply to fabio, there's no deterioration in recording quality with multiple overdubs. 4 minutes is the maximum length of a loop. That can include an unlimited number of overdubs. It only stores the most recent overdub and the current mix, so previous overdubs do not take up memory capacity.
Hi Sascha, SORRY, but I'm missing all Informations about the Connecting to a Computer (with the little USB-Port) and to work with the DONNER-Software? I can't find any Editing-Software from DONNER at their Homepage, although it is written on the description?! Greetings from Germany 🎸 Gerd 🙈 ...ich hab erst eben Deine Nationalität entdeckt! Darfst mir natürlich gerne auch in unserer Muttersprache antworten, die ich wesentlich besser beherrsche, lach! 😆
About to buy this for my dad but can’t find any answers to this question: How on the beat do you have to be when you stop your initial loop? If you stop it a little early or late will it chop it off at the end of the bar, or will you have a messed up loop?
That button in the middle seems to make all the difference. When it's greyed and you tap the bottom buttons it loops instantly, but when it's lit up green it tries to loop to the last bar of the drum loop and is more forgiving.
I am sold, great video, I recently bought a joyo one man band looper one big pile of crap, drums are terrible, the pedal worked about 3 days developed a popping sound, then none of buttons would respond, tried to send it back for refund, no deal so I am out 100.00 bucks, So after seeing this video I just ordered the donner circle looper, sure hope I have better luck with it, hopefully buying a product from Amazon will be a better experience, if I have a problem, anyway thanks for the great demo.
@@celestinorodrigues5239 Get an ( 3 way or more etc ) extension cord > with an ON OFF < switch ! Depends how many Effects pedals you use - All GUITAR effects pedals are on standby & need a > multi effects power supply < ! ( unless those powered with a 9 volt battery or Power adapter ) ! The Circle Looper alone needs a 9 Volt Power adapter with 300 ma ( Depends wich Country you live in ! )
running in my amp makes drums distorted. have a small amp with processor tried running with two seperate amps it still sounds distorted .if i dont figure something out its useless somebody help thanks
One question can you toggle between two a memories in real time? for example while playing memory one can you queue memory two and have it play at the end of memory one in order to create chorus and verse thank you
You can toggle between memories in real time manually or with a footswitch, relying on good timing to avoid missing a beat. However, there is no way to queue memories to play automatically. You may need to buy a Trio Plus, if that's what you want to do.
If I record a clean tone to loop then change the amp to a distorted tone (or any other effect or tone), the loop then goes from clean tone to distorted max. I want to keep the loop clean. Is there a way I can do this? Basically, I want to have the clean loop playing while I jam over it with a distorted tone.
@@SRguitar Thanks for the quick reply! I’m using a Marshall code 25 which doesn’t have an fx loop. It’s the only pedal I’m using. Would you say I’m out of luck?
You could use an overdrive/distortion pedal on front of the looper instead of the amp distortion. That’s the only way it would work. The looper always needs to be after the distortion
Best looper demo I’ve seen! The loopers I’ve previously used have had a somewhat annoying learning curve but this looks pretty user-friendly, which translates to better creativity. I’m afraid I’ll lose hours of time if I get it, which is a great possibility now 😁👍🏻
I bought this, and am having 2nd thoughts 1st problem, the volume of the rhythms are so much. Even at the lower setting of 1, it is loud an unusable -- too loud -- with a loud tube amp, its drum patterns are unusable unless you want to go deaf. 2nd issue:there seems to ve no way to save the rhythm drum with the loop. If I dub a chord on a drum in one loop and go to another drum setting in a different loop, and then go back to previous loop, all I hear is my chord and not the drums. If I want the drums, I must remember what pattern and what BPM I used I am thinking of sending it back
Hi, 1. Try to make the looper volume on the left control higher, that should help to get a balanced volume with the drums. 2. You have to press the Merger control in the middle of the pedal to synchronize with the drums. If you record now, the drum beat and the bpm will be recorded and saved with the loop. I hope i yould help you with that!
Loopers' MAIN PROBLEM = staying synced to a beat. This quantizes to the measure of its internal drummer, BUT WILL IT STAY "SYNCED" to an external drum (BeatBuddy) set to the same bpm? This would fix the obvious problem of mixing drums and guitar together (or add a bass with drum!)
I would be amazed if it stayed in sinc with an external drum machine for long, without a midi connection. But the beauty of a looper with drums is that the loop and the rhythm are synced. Mixing is not an issue if you put your effects in front of the looper and play through the clean channel of your amp. I use it in the effects loop of my amp, which works well .
@@rhferg If devices acurately do bpm, and the looper quantizes to the bar, looping becomes soooo easy! Have a Zoom multi effect with a looper/drum that does, but the drums suck. So does the multieffect, sunken buttons, plastc crap. BeaBuddy works great, just need a quantizing looper... it doesn't matter if the loop is a little off if quantized; without, each replzy of the loop gets more off (the length unequal to 8 bars, for example)
@@markplimsoll That's interesting. The Donner definitely quantises accurately. I've run loops continuously for 50+ cycles, with zero slippage. When you record a loop, it adjusts the length to match the nearest whole number of bars of the rhythm pattern. During playback, it triggers the loop on the first beat of the first bar of the rhythm sequence each time it comes round. So it doesn't/can't drift because it is being resynced every few seconds.
@@rhferg Can you turn the drum volume way down and run a different digital drum at tbe same bpm? i wonder about "industry standards" for tempo precision! If not..... midi sucks.
@@markplimsoll I'll run an experiment testing the looper against a metronome app in my phone. I'll also see if the drums can be muted. I'll let you know the outcome. OK. It's good news and bad news. The good news is that the drums can be muted. The bad news is that the metronome and the looper drifted apart. It took quite a long time for it to become evident, but there was no doubt about it. I'm not surprised. All these devices use some kind of algorithm to get their timing from, but it's not like an atomic clock.
YES!!! Circle Looper's beats per minute sync "close enough" so we can easily hit the looper button and the loop "quantizes" or stops on the bar, or close enough it does NOT hiccup and get further off with each loop cycle (on some Beat Buddy beats ONLY, because Beat Buddy beats get recorded with human drummers, so they too are not as accurate as digital. Who cares? Record the Beat Buddy into the loop! TAKE NOTES OF CIRCLE LOOPER DRUM AND TEMPO for your loops, in case you need to recreate, or move slots. Seems circle looper's software handles the metadat about its beats and tempo, so write things down to edit .WAV loops in Audacity for loundess, EQ, etc. and import new WAV files into the clooper. Circke Looper uses 24 bit, and Boss RC-3 uses 16 bit, so pay attention when you edit/export/save/create the file in Audacity, for example. I love my Circle Looper! I did cover the looper button with a cap to avoid mistakenly hitting it during a step to Stop, which avoids going into Record mode and polluting your backup loop. Imported loops cannot be deleted except through the computer software.
hi thanks for this. do you know if it can be put in the effects loop without getting clipped bu stronger pre-amp signal? or can it only handle line level signal?
I would not touch donner stuff after having a looper that broke down after 7 months, as they don't honour there guarantee. They said can I take a replacement I said ok then they said don't have a replacement would I take a refund I said yes so they said they would give me my money back at first then a month later no money back and they said no money back after 90 days.
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I played with the Circle looper across 3 sessions, rereading the manual each time between. I still didn't wrap my head around everything until I saw this video. After the video I thought --for the fourth time-- that I understood what all lights and buttons did in the various modes. This morning I gave it another shot, and yes, your video did the trick. Clear, thank you.
I bought one ages ago and never really got to grips with it, even though i'm a bit of a techy!. Your video is the best and easiest explanation of how it works, thank you!
I just bought this looper, and it arrived in the mail yesterday so I'm excited to get to work with it. Your tutorial review is very helpful. Thanks for posting.
Best review I've seen of this affordable looper. Thanks.
Thank you! Really appreciate that
Here in Canada , this pedal goes for $211 + taxes cnd funds,I wouldn't call it affordable, it's got its pros and cons like every other pedal,right now I'm torn between this and the Boss rc5
@@tonymediati8274 £101 here in UK inc tax and mains power adapter. Reckon that's a good price for what it does.
Thanks for this easy to understand demo. I just pulled the trigger on Amazon for this looper pedal.
This review sold me. Have the Donner mini looper and it’s great. Now I want this expanded slot looper. Found the Donner portal on Facebook which shows currency and free shipping to Canada. You made one GREAT video.
Thanks man! Glad you enjoyed it :)
Thanks. I just purchased the looper and this video help me out a lot.
Ur style & sensitivity is real great... it speaks to your soul. 🍻
Great review. You were clear and explained it well. Bravo
Not really! Where is switch on and off when you finish the recording?
@@celestinorodrigues5239 Yes it is ! Check " 4:11 Recording a Loop" ! Get an ( 3 way or more etc ) extension cord > with an ON OFF < switch ! Depends how many Effects pedals you use - All GUITAR effects pedals are on standby & need a > multi effects power supply < ! ( unless those powered with a 9 volt battery or Power adapter ) ! The Circle Looper alone needs a 9 Volt Power adapter with 300 ma ( Depends wich Country you live in ! )
Really clear explanation. Thanks!
Well done. Thank you
Great review and demonstration! I've just ordered one !
Anybody knows how to switch on and off the device?
@@celestinorodrigues5239 With the stop - Play switch .
Thanks Sasha! Just got this pedal. Great instruction!
Best review of this pedal yet! Thankyou!
U've got my subscription. Cheers 4 that!
Glad to hear that! Thank you😊
Most excellent. What reviewers should strive for.
Not so fast! where is the main switch on and off?
Awesome review have had one a while now i understand it a bit better thank you just subscribed
Great informative review, thanks
A sale is on the Donner webstore now.15% off orders of $100 or more.This looper and a guitar cable cost me $86 total includes free shipping.
Really useful review
112 euro is he cheapest I can find on the web sir. Still very cheap, and I like this . may get one to replace my Mooer groove pedal.looper. Good mojo review sir.
Useful demo and review, thanks.
Thanks!
Great Job Bro !!!...(nice looper)
Thanks!
Très bonne démo merci !
Detailed review! Thank you! Donner is sort of hit or miss with me. This one seems to be a hit for sure.
Do these have multiple outputs for thise who don't have distortion pedals etc ..
How many measures of a loop recording can you make? Cause you might want to record a long solo idea.
👍 thx just got mine😄
great video..and some sweet guitar work....do you know how long each loop can be..and how many channels...?
Can you upload your memory banks to computer so as to have a song archive of ideas that you can load in and out of the looper? Hope I asked that it correctly-looking for a looper that can act as a sketch pad of sorts for song ideas.
Hi,
I think it’s possible, it has a micro usb connection on the front. In the manual it says you can download a software where you can manage the memory slots and add backing tracks etc. I searched for the software online but I couldn’t find it, i think it’s not available yet :)
@@SRguitar Thanks-if it does have that software, it would make it a powerful sketch pad. 🙏-enjoyed.
@@SRguitar Hi , thx for your video, prepared (not another unboxing video), tips, etc.
The software is avaible, but a little bit hidden...
You can find the "Download" button at the far bottom of the pages of products on Donnerdeal.com or directly here :
www.donnerdeal.com/pages/download
Section "Looper", you'll find the pdf manual and the softwares for Mac or Windows.
Seems that you can download only the loops, not the drums. You can upload .mp3, .wav or else.
I just discovered this pedal two weeks ago, and I've still have lot of questions... Few answers would be great.
- mainly, what about the stereo ouptputs ? My dream is that it would be as on the Digitech TrioBandCreator+ : the possibility to route the drums to another amp (to keep this sound always clean) but not the guitar (to a full tubes amp in my case, as I like the drive of the power stage).
- when overdubbing lot of times, still the sound clean, the level unaffected ?
- Docs says 40 saves, max 4min each save, 160min total. Can we upload a 3-4min backing track, and overdub 3-4min ? Or the total time for each memory is 4 min max, anyway (backing+total of overdubs) ?
- about metronom, all the 10 rythmes are with sticks sound, or a click, a bassdrum, a clave are avaible ?
Thank you very much in advance if you have few informations more ;-)
In reply to fabio, there's no deterioration in recording quality with multiple overdubs. 4 minutes is the maximum length of a loop. That can include an unlimited number of overdubs. It only stores the most recent overdub and the current mix, so previous overdubs do not take up memory capacity.
@@rhferg thank you very much for your reply !! Still just one point, the stereo outputs. I did not find any information yet about this :-(
Hi Sascha, SORRY, but I'm missing all Informations about the Connecting to a Computer (with the little USB-Port) and to work with the DONNER-Software?
I can't find any Editing-Software from DONNER at their Homepage, although it is written on the description?!
Greetings from Germany 🎸 Gerd
🙈 ...ich hab erst eben Deine Nationalität entdeckt! Darfst mir natürlich gerne auch in unserer Muttersprache antworten, die ich wesentlich besser beherrsche, lach! 😆
About to buy this for my dad but can’t find any answers to this question: How on the beat do you have to be when you stop your initial loop? If you stop it a little early or late will it chop it off at the end of the bar, or will you have a messed up loop?
That button in the middle seems to make all the difference. When it's greyed and you tap the bottom buttons it loops instantly, but when it's lit up green it tries to loop to the last bar of the drum loop and is more forgiving.
I am sold, great video, I recently bought a joyo one man band looper one big pile of crap, drums are terrible, the pedal worked about 3 days developed a popping sound, then none of buttons would respond, tried to send it back for refund, no deal so I am out 100.00 bucks, So after seeing this video I just ordered the donner circle looper, sure hope I have better luck with it, hopefully buying a product from Amazon will be a better experience, if I have a problem, anyway thanks for the great demo.
That is a bummer not getting refunded.This is why I try to stick to sites like eBay, Amazon and PayPal because they offer some customer protection.
Can you tell me how to switch on and off the devise!
With the stop - Play switch .
@@motorrebell how to switch the system completely? There no switch!
@@celestinorodrigues5239 Get an ( 3 way or more etc ) extension cord > with an ON OFF < switch ! Depends how many Effects pedals you use - All GUITAR effects pedals are on standby & need a > multi effects power supply < ! ( unless those powered with a 9 volt battery or Power adapter ) ! The Circle Looper alone needs a 9 Volt Power adapter with 300 ma ( Depends wich Country you live in ! )
running in my amp makes drums distorted. have a small amp with processor tried running with two seperate amps it still sounds distorted .if i dont figure something out its useless somebody help thanks
One question can you toggle between two a memories in real time? for example while playing memory one can you queue memory two and have it play at the end of memory one in order to create chorus and verse thank you
I am not really sure but that might work
@@SRguitar could uou check it out? Im hoping for a real time verse then chorus synced looper with drum machine
I was about to post the same question, did you figure this out? Would be very handy to be able to do this, especially using an external footswitch.
If you still have the machine would you sell it? Not available in japan at this time....
You can toggle between memories in real time manually or with a footswitch, relying on good timing to avoid missing a beat. However, there is no way to queue memories to play automatically. You may need to buy a Trio Plus, if that's what you want to do.
If I record a clean tone to loop then change the amp to a distorted tone (or any other effect or tone), the loop then goes from clean tone to distorted max. I want to keep the loop clean. Is there a way I can do this? Basically, I want to have the clean loop playing while I jam over it with a distorted tone.
You have to put the looper in the effects loop of your amp, then the loop will stay clean :)
@@SRguitar Thanks for the quick reply! I’m using a Marshall code 25 which doesn’t have an fx loop. It’s the only pedal I’m using. Would you say I’m out of luck?
You could use an overdrive/distortion pedal on front of the looper instead of the amp distortion. That’s the only way it would work. The looper always needs to be after the distortion
The basic switch on and off the devise!
With the stop - Play switch .
Can you have the guitar loop to one output and the drums to the other?
As far as I know, no
How to switch off?
Hello, is there some 3/4 rhythm pattern?
I've just received my Circle Looper so can tell you that it has two 3/4 patterns. It also has six 6/8 patterns, four of which are in the Blues genre.
@@rhferg thanx
Best looper demo I’ve seen! The loopers I’ve previously used have had a somewhat annoying learning curve but this looks pretty user-friendly, which translates to better creativity. I’m afraid I’ll lose hours of time if I get it, which is a great possibility now 😁👍🏻
I bought this, and am having 2nd thoughts
1st problem, the volume of the rhythms are so much. Even at the lower setting of 1, it is loud an unusable -- too loud -- with a loud tube amp, its drum patterns are unusable unless you want to go deaf.
2nd issue:there seems to ve no way to save the rhythm drum with the loop. If I dub a chord on a drum in one loop and go to another drum setting in a different loop, and then go back to previous loop, all I hear is my chord and not the drums. If I want the drums, I must remember what pattern and what BPM I used
I am thinking of sending it back
Hi,
1. Try to make the looper volume on the left control higher, that should help to get a balanced volume with the drums.
2. You have to press the Merger control in the middle of the pedal to synchronize with the drums. If you record now, the drum beat and the bpm will be recorded and saved with the loop.
I hope i yould help you with that!
Send it to me! Ha!
Loopers' MAIN PROBLEM = staying synced to a beat. This quantizes to the measure of its internal drummer, BUT WILL IT STAY "SYNCED" to an external drum (BeatBuddy) set to the same bpm? This would fix the obvious problem of mixing drums and guitar together (or add a bass with drum!)
I would be amazed if it stayed in sinc with an external drum machine for long, without a midi connection. But the beauty of a looper with drums is that the loop and the rhythm are synced. Mixing is not an issue if you put your effects in front of the looper and play through the clean channel of your amp. I use it in the effects loop of my amp, which works well .
@@rhferg If devices acurately do bpm, and the looper quantizes to the bar, looping becomes soooo easy! Have a Zoom multi effect with a looper/drum that does, but the drums suck. So does the multieffect, sunken buttons, plastc crap. BeaBuddy works great, just need a quantizing looper... it doesn't matter if the loop is a little off if quantized; without, each replzy of the loop gets more off (the length unequal to 8 bars, for example)
@@markplimsoll That's interesting. The Donner definitely quantises accurately. I've run loops continuously for 50+ cycles, with zero slippage. When you record a loop, it adjusts the length to match the nearest whole number of bars of the rhythm pattern. During playback, it triggers the loop on the first beat of the first bar of the rhythm sequence each time it comes round. So it doesn't/can't drift because it is being resynced every few seconds.
@@rhferg Can you turn the drum volume way down and run a different digital drum at tbe same bpm? i wonder about "industry standards" for tempo precision! If not..... midi sucks.
@@markplimsoll I'll run an experiment testing the looper against a metronome app in my phone. I'll also see if the drums can be muted. I'll let you know the outcome.
OK. It's good news and bad news. The good news is that the drums can be muted. The bad news is that the metronome and the looper drifted apart. It took quite a long time for it to become evident, but there was no doubt about it. I'm not surprised. All these devices use some kind of algorithm to get their timing from, but it's not like an atomic clock.
Warum gibt es diese Anleitung nicht in deutscher Sprache?
YES!!! Circle Looper's beats per minute sync "close enough" so we can easily hit the looper button and the loop "quantizes" or stops on the bar, or close enough it does NOT hiccup and get further off with each loop cycle (on some Beat Buddy beats ONLY, because Beat Buddy beats get recorded with human drummers, so they too are not as accurate as digital. Who cares? Record the Beat Buddy into the loop! TAKE NOTES OF CIRCLE LOOPER DRUM AND TEMPO for your loops, in case you need to recreate, or move slots. Seems circle looper's software handles the metadat about its beats and tempo, so write things down to edit .WAV loops in Audacity for loundess, EQ, etc. and import new WAV files into the clooper. Circke Looper uses 24 bit, and Boss RC-3 uses 16 bit, so pay attention when you edit/export/save/create the file in Audacity, for example. I love my Circle Looper! I did cover the looper button with a cap to avoid mistakenly hitting it during a step to Stop, which avoids going into Record mode and polluting your backup loop. Imported loops cannot be deleted except through the computer software.
True Bypass?
The product description says it has true bypass
Plug in out to switch on or off doesn’t work!
hi
thanks for this.
do you know if it can be put in the effects loop without getting clipped bu stronger pre-amp signal?
or can it only handle line level signal?
I use mine in the effects loop of a Marshall valve amp and it sounds fine. No clipping.
I would not touch donner stuff after having a looper that broke down after 7 months, as they don't honour there guarantee. They said can I take a replacement I said ok then they said don't have a replacement would I take a refund I said yes so they said they would give me my money back at first then a month later no money back and they said no money back after 90 days.
Replay sounds tinny and breaks up like a bad phone connection..
Auf deutsch wäre toll
En français lol en francais😂😂😂😂😂 merci
Wie es aussieht, ist er bei Amazon wohl nicht mehr verfügbar.
Ja soll aber noch im Dezember wieder lieferbar sein !
@@SRguitar Ah, ok. Danke. Werde es im Auge behalten. 👍
Engels aub,wy moeten ook verstaan,🤨🤨
Now why rock?aint there reggea beats like the mooer? Or latina,play that first,
Personal preference. He has his, you have yours etc. :)
Without a switch on and off eventually will damage the electrics by using plug in and off…