Why this Sombra hasn't ranked up since 2020 | Spectating Overwatch 2 Season 9
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To play like that after 4 years is an achievement in itself ngl
No hate to the Sombra but this gameplay proves they are wrong, people think just because "rank" resets they are all of a sudden going to be higher than they were all of a sudden... the player was a Silver player before the reset and they still are Silver I don't want to hate on the player but their Aim needs massive work, say what you want about console but having consistent aim is still a bare minimum for climbing. Compared to everyone else in the match I don't see this Sombra doing anything special to deserve to be higher than them, if anything the Sombra was the weakest link on their team.
that's exactly what I wanted to say, a player with 4 years of experience should not have such massive problem with aiming (I'm a console player myself) and it honestly looks like he picked up the controller a month or two ago
For plat-diamod players its even worse, I ended last season on GM5 and it deranked me to D1 on placements, and every lobby has been full of mostly players the same rank as me or higher but if you are truly a diamond/plat player, i cant imagine how it must feel to just be dependant on the MM to put more masters/gm on your team or the enemy
Aim usually comes with time but yea this is just bad in a lot of instances. Silver or not you gotta hit your cooldowns on a somewhat consistent basis
@neog_2979 I dont think they fully reset the hidden mmr, because just from watching streams and from you’re comment, gm players still play with gm players (mostly) and the same for other ranks. The rank reset also from what I know, only puts you down 1 rank from where you were. If you were masters, you’d be predicted somewhere in diamond, if you were plat, you’d be predicted somewhere in gold, etc.
@@zezolusNo bullshit that is exactly how I aim as a PC player who just started playing fps on consoles like 4 months ago
Them randomly spraying like a firehose left and right every battle slayed me
too high of sensitivity?
yea the aim was the biggest issue to me. that aim was ALL over the place
I’d argue this person is more of a bronze 3 player. They genuinely have a lot to work on.
4 years makes this hard to watch
Learning to flex has its benefits
I've seen the worst parts of bronze but holy shit, this guy was a billion times worse than anyone I've seen there - maybe we need a rank even lower than bronze; specifically for these people
This season's ranked rework was an opportune time to subdivide bronze tier further. I didn't really expect it but it sure would've been nice.
And the enemies are totally new to this game, the healers minus ten under bronze never heal the Orissa tank, same for their Bastion totally clueless about the game.
Emongg is WAY to lenient. This is some peak bronze gameplay. Feel lucky you're in silver.
Very constructive cheers mate
@@Gammaurai Do you happen to be the Sombra player? If so what do you think of the replies under this video?
@@jefftist9625 no I am not 👍
A bronze player doesn't use his abilities as often. Sure, he has very bad aim and is inconsistent with hitting or landing his abilizies, but he is aware that he has them. Bronze players run around thinking their character has only left click.
Hack doesn't significantly increase damage, and it only silences enemies for less than a second, so it is only really good for when it interrupts an ability (like doom block, spinny spear, reflect, sigma eat, plus some ults and other abilities). The only damage increase is taking the virus impact from 10 to 20. The virus damage over time happens faster, but the effect ends quicker. So if you need to kill an enemy in 3 seconds or less, hacking can help, but if you are in a clean 1v1 where they can't get help, I find it is much better to land the virus first and then just shoot. The increased chance of hitting the virus and shooting before they have a chance to react is usually worth more than the 10 extra impact damage from having them hacked. Sometimes the short silence is enough to make the difference, especially in stall situations where a mei needs to ice block on point before 4 people explode them, buying the team close to a second of extra time is enough for focus fire to come in, but in a 1v1, it is near impossible to get the elim before their abilities come back and they use them to get you or save themselves. So in general, I find it is best to virus, then shoot, and only hack if I have a reason to, either focus fire coming in from the team or a specific ability or ult to cancel.
Also when u virus first, by the time they react it's too late. Hacking actually gives them time to react
her hack is really good if u use it agaisnt the right person for ex u can kill every single stranded support and almost all dps. first use virus and shoot for like .4 seconds then IMMEDIATLEY translocate above there head and as u r coming down hack them, then they will be less than half hp and no abilities, its very hard to counter.
He takes too long trying to hack instead of actually shooting people and doing damage
i miss when sombra was more about silence debuffing rather than just another dps....
Honestly good tips. I never realized hacking first could be detrimental in 1v1s. Obviously when they'd notice me, I would stop attempting it but I figured if I could hack, they would move a little more predictably (turning around to look at you), take a bit more damage, and die more but I guess the surprise of coming out of nowhere and immediately hitting them with it is more value over all
5:55 as someone that’s played an unhealthy amount of Sombra, for a Junkrat I’d just lead with Virus and engage from a fair distance. Usually one of the easier kills you’re gonna get, big enough target, not fast
I main Sombra in Plat and a lonely Junkrat is even easier to kill now than a lonely Zen!
rare helpful Sombra main moment
@@sylspren9007 zens are scary for me to fight since i play dps flank zen cause im silly and i always the enemy zen is gonna kill me cause while zen may look helpless he really isnt
@user-bz2kq8pw3x For sombra, Don't attack him while he's charging volley, attack from a distance so he doesn't start kicking, lead with virus. He'll go down very quickly unless another support gets on him.
@@ιαρ-μ2τ I always attack Zen at an angle. It’s better to let him charge his volley, time it right. He’s either gonna fire it away from you or cancel the charge.
But usually just attack him from the side of behind, virus then shoot.
15:38 I love how they pretty clearly went for a hack on soldier and accidentally got the healthkit, forcing them to lead with virus as they should lol.
Perfect
Surprisingly that health pack was the reason they outlived the soldier
I wish the people who submit these also sent a screenshot of final scoreboard
i think i went 28-7?
What for, scoreboard says nothign. This guy prob had outstanding stats, despite doing poorly.
He is playing with the goddamn arrow keys
this person is still playing like OLD sombra. New sombra hack is pretty useless outside of canceling ults or on tanks to cancel shields for a play by your team like to land a sleep dart or anti. They are spending too much time trying to just hack a bunch of players. New sombra at best it increases virus damage over time. So the hack then virus only works on say trying to take out a person coming back from spawn and doesnt have a moment ability like zen, ana. Others like moria or kirko they will just fade or teleport away before you can do enough damage to them since hack isnt long enough for those
Yeah leading off with hack is usually only reserved for when you need someone's cooldowns to be hacked like you want Ana to not have sleep etc. Hacking someone just ruins the biggest element Sombra has which is the element of surprise on most heroes. So many of them will just shrug it off or kill you since they are not as dependent on cooldowns
As a plat sombra myself, this player is where he is supposed to be on the ladder
Maybe even a bit high
@Wynorrific no, definitely not. Even when I played console in OW1 I had better handling of the character then him.
I'm no professional and my game understanding is way better than my mechanical skill (wich is why I'm no higher than plat), but this guy definitely belongs in silver with his skill and game style.
I'm not saying he is bad, but higher ranks people play way differently than him
@@paulopacheco7768 He should be in bronze.
@@paulopacheco7768 That's... What the guy said. "Maybe even a bit high" meaning "Maybe even silver is a little high for him"
His movement is somewhat decent, the huge problem is the aim. You can’t just move around the map hacking people and leaving like a rabbit when you’re 1v1…Those are the sombra that ask to us Winston mains or ball mains to play coordinated with them most of the times, when I reality after we get into a fight they leave with translocators letting the tank 1v3😂
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the issue i see most her is th oer use of hack, hack isnt hat usefull unless youa re actively trying to prevent something life fade, suzu and such. If youstart with hack they more time to reac, and thast why he is missing the virus. start with virus and then shoot, hack is opional, not necessary. laso junk doesnt 1 sho anymore, be not afraid.
They missed SO many viruses because of strafing after they made the target aware via hacking. Lead with virus except for Tracer/ana/bap aka characters that can quick roll you or escape with abilities.
Advice was alright but give some more micro advice please. At 23:05 they almost had a Moira dead but forgot about her after she faded. This guy is pressing a lot of buttons but not directing his impact at any kind of target. Just doing stuff to what’s in front of him.
Yeah it didn't seem like Emongg really knew what advice to give and although I don't know which characters he plays I have a feeling he hasn't played much of Sombra. Would also suggest Emongg take some coaching lessons from Spilo on *how* to coach as well given that Emongg's coaching needs some work.
Yo they’re missing every virus😂😂😂😂
what do you mean 2020 was 4 years ago?!!
ikr 🥲
eyo thats me
I played a ton of Sombra and I can tell this one doesn't deserve anything more than silver for sure. Like we don't need to talk Sombra starts, because he gets lost after his own movement. Aim even with the giant bullet hitboxes is terrible and I'm not sure if he landed one Virus...
That EMP at the end. Had they stayed up top and farmed a little damage like you said; they could have ulted 1 second sooner, probably won the fight, and the game.
As a Sombra player on and off for three years who has grinded up from bronze to gold five…I can’t wait to watch this
I think the rank reset was funny because I literally just ended up placing almost exactly where I used to be for all ranks (except tank I'm not doing tank placements until its less miserable)
From what I understand, it puts you a whole rank below where you were and forces you to climb back up. If you were masters, it puts you in diamond, plat in gold, etc. luckily, it increases your mmr by quite a bit in your placements and also in your games after placements so if you go 5-5 or less and end up in a lower rank than you wanted you can still climb back in relatively short time. I was diamond 3 last season on tank and I got placed diamond 4 after going 7-3, and the few games after I got to d2 because of the calibration multiplier (a win gives you like 25-35% and a loss takes away about the same).
Its most likely to fix people rank instead of ranking you up, like those frustated silver players alt getting on master or higher
@@LoepulI got placed into exactly the same rank tiers as last season across all roles, and even did placement matches with a few friends who were different ranks than me. it definitely felt like the placements were cosmetic
@@UncleJemima I mispoke in my comment, the predicted rank is a whole rank below, not what you end up with. but yeah, it doesn't feel like much of a reset
@@Loepul and we were so hydrated 😔
So from what I understood from watching for a lil while, the song is played when cart could of been touched right?
Yes
Sombra is one of the heroes I am trying to/wanting to learn. I was told to always lead off with hack, then, go to virus, then, damage. But, I find exactly what we saw here. When I hack, I usually hack successfully, but then the person knows, turns to face me, and moves out of my virus. I then start to panic, which throws my aim everywhere, and I translocate out. Leading with virus and then damage makes more sense, as it will be easier to land the virus, since I can do it with patience as the person isn't normally moving as much, and then I can follow through with damage. I play a lot like this person plays, and I definitely see the flaws in it. Thank you for this great video! I have learned a lot. Now, put it to action!
They need to hack less. It doesn't increase damage. It should be more used to lock out abilities to help secure kills.
Im a Silver 5 sombra on console and I think if they just used virus first they would get 100 times more value and also spectate less they tend to just watch there team a lot
you virus first because you can lineup the shot freely while invis, and people dont have enough time to turn toward you and AD strafe. Notice how in the soldier example emongg pointed out at 15:35, the soldier doesn't have enough time to react to sombra coming out of invis until after he's already hit by virus.
I’m a silver tank right now and it feels like I’m fighting plat players. I wish I got games with enemies like these.
Look back on your gameplay and watch the enemy, you probably do get games with enemies like this
I was getting alot of silver and low gold matches for some reason after the reset (im plat 1 tank)
A really important part of sombra is the element of surprise. It’s easier to do damage on an enemy that isn’t expecting it. And when the player uses the hack and then misses the virus, they squander the advantage.
Another one blames the rank system, was waiting for this lol
I def blame the rank system. I went 9-1 in placements and then won like 10 more games after and got put in silver 5
@@bubbleis thats because it kept your MMR from the last season and removed your ranked value until placements. it allows for easier climbing but you are still going to start roughly from where you were
This^ climbing has definitely been easier this season then last
@@bubbleis .. well that's because you're right where you should be. you're not magically gonna be better lmfao. easier to climb if you're good but bad players are really suffering this patch (:
@@bunnyg4464 I play on my alt specifically bc that in comp bc I'm in diamond and play fine. And it's not like it's bc I don't play on my alt that's my main comp acc
It seems like their scared to use their gun for damage, most of the time they just try hitting a virus then run away then also theyre obsessed with hack for some reason 😂
Meanwhile me, another sombra main, is stuck in bronze for about the same amount of time as this guy is in silver. So explain to me, how can my aim and game sense be better than the sombra in this video (no offense) *but im still a lower rank??* the ranked system really confuses me sometimes lmfao
Are u console or pc? Are you SURE ur aim and game sense is better? Or is hindsight/spectating 20/20.
@sunsun9998 pc now, was console a while back. Yes, I'm absolutely sure that I do not aim like a drunken fool and have more game sense then this snotbrained ape.
Aim is REALLY bad (why are they strafing left to right?), they sometimes hack people and then just do nothing, lots of front-lining like they're a Cass or Soldier, no escape plan most of the time (just throw translocator and hope for the best), etc. This person doesn't understand that they would not be able to get away with a lot of the stuff they're doing at higher ranks.
That Sombra had the worst aim
This sombra main is not representative of the rest of us. I Stan sombra for life
im not a sombra main
5:50 yh you're right, Questron (top 500 Sombra) says this all the time. From what I've learnt from him, this person is hacking way too much, the reason he was missing his virus so much was because he was announcing his arrival with the hack. The hack tracks the virus doesn't, lead with the virus. If you miss your virus like you did against that Junkrat 1v1 dip out of there.
Patience needs patience 😅
My Sombra always do this:
- try to hack and virus, but if hack always got cancel or cannot hack because the enemy isn't alone, just throw virus and farm ult xD
- go at the back of the enemy and see what they have and their positioning, I always disturb the high ground people cause no high ground is allowed
- emp always use for cancel ult, rushing in, just to cancel their mobility for a couple of seconds
This is how I play it with Sombra, but everyone got their own way xD
Oof. i could only watch 2 mins of this as a sombra main. The way this guy aims hurts my soul.
ALRIGHT SO :)
I play roller on pc so I dont know anything about console but, does console have deadzone adjustment settings ? Seems like this player could benefit from some fine tuning on the settings.
If you do something for 4 years and you don't improve you need to seriously re-evaluate how you approach the world
the entire community has improved over time. if someone stays in the same rank for a long period of time, it means that they're improving but not fast enough to climb. if they weren't improving at all, they would derank.
This player needs their "I AM THE DANGER" moment. HAVE CONFIDENCE! Practice aim or talk in the mirror do what it takes to see yourself as a threat. Even with your skill level EXACTLY where it is now, you gave up several kills just by disengaging too soon. If you can change your mindset and you'll get more kills day 1.
Also an exercise that helped me with my tracer aim was (in Quickplay) try only shooting only when it's going to be a hit. I know it sounds like a meme, but after losing several fights only shooting like ten shots, it forced me to slow down. I realized I had been panicking and mag dumping every engagement and sometimes I got lucky and got a kill. Having a little throttle control over my M1 actually helped me to take time with my aim. Hope that helps!
hey, i get those moments but only when im on tank lmfao
That Orisa was having the worst day of their life for a lot of this...RIP! XD
Throughout heaven and earth, I alone am the alright so one!
the play seems to be shoot virus hack or shoot hack virus. I've fallen as Mercy to either of the variants after being snuck up on
Surprised this guy is in silver tbh. He kept shooting bastion and the tank because those were the only targets he didn't miss most of his shots.
Edit: how did they lose that last fight with flux+emp????
The reset was definitely real bc I was a gold-plat player and now I’m back into plat
I was in plat 4 years ago and now I'm champ
Ahhh so, after rank reset, some rank lower...some rank higher and some rank the same........would NEVER of guessed that.
TO THE SOMBRA PLAYER PLEASE: you are too anxious, you’re not focused. You’re clearly good enough, you need to relax. You’ve been there for 4 years. You’re BETTER THAN these fools. Like emongg says, be patient with the aim. Let them walk into your shots
Think: ‘I just need to legitimately land like 11 shots from this smg and melee this zen and we win’
This is why aim does matter, no matter what all the big streamers will tell you. Good aim makes u more confident to flank and off angle.
i did my placements on saudi arabia servers. first 5 games were ALL BOTS on my team. it was shocking because that was my first experience ever with bots in this game, so i decided to get a vpn and switch to amsterdam and the next 5 games were close fights bar a few really bad tanks. I won 2 out of those last 5 and I still got placed higher than this guy xD the mmr reset definitely did work, man probably lost all his placements just like me. I would imagine that if I won i would have been placed plat 2 or something. I was previously gold 4 and this season i placed gold 2. I had a game where I did 20k dmg on tracer for the first time ever and another with 15k on widow. the match quality felt much better.
Im just throwing this out there…. STOP HACKING FIRST!!!!! Virus first and base commitment off of pick potential. Hack is much more valuable used to interrupt enemy play.
If that’s silver for sombra I’m plat sombra… I’m no where the best but my aim and my use of abilities is better… they hack, try to virus then leave because they’re getting shot at. Why hack a player when they’re not doing an ability. Hacking has no value if the opponent isn’t using his abilities. You need to hack genii often, you need to hack sigma when using his bullets absorption thing… or try to cancel ults… those add value. If you hack an ash that isn’t doing anything except shooting then you are telling them “I’m here” and basically giving them an advantage to kill you. The element of surprise is gone. I will say they have good escape movements and shows they know the map. I might add always going behind the enemy is good but not when the entire team are together… they will all turn around and lazer you. You need to be a support distraction. You need to be behind their lines but only shoot when they are concentrated by your team and one stayed a slight be more behind. The reason for slightly more behind is because the minute a support gets shot it’s like the tanks get a whistle and they turn around to save their support. So you need to make sure the person you’re killing isn’t too close their teammate so you have time for the kill and dip. Plus sometimes playing a frontline sombra is good. I’m not always behind the enemy, I’m unpredictable. Flanking takes time and to get as much value as possible you can’t be running around doing nothing for too long.
I don’t play competitive, but now I should… I was told that sombra sucks in competitive and brings nothing to the table and since I main her I just stayed off comp.
This is hard to watch not gunna lie if you been stuck in silver for 4 year!!! It's time for a new game
As someone who’s been stuck in b5 for most of ow2 when i was a silver/ gold depending on my role in ow1 the rank changes def fixed things but matchmaking is iffy for me the entire first half of the season i went from placing in b3 to climbing to s5 and then randomly had a week n a half of matchmaking giving me a single teammate normally if I’m solo either tank or support or if I’m duoing with a support it’s tank or dps who is the reason we lost due to either them being bad or just outright throwing for whatever reason and literally the day before yesterday it went back to giving me competent people and i went from b3 back up to just hitting b1 again just now so the comp ranks is def fixed it’s just matchmaking that needs tweaking (in my opinion winners should rly be put with winners and losers with losers cause 1 bad person can just destroy your chances of winning)😊
4 yera playing with this aim????? im swear im not that trashtalkers from comments but CMON, ITS IMPOSSIBLE, bronze has a better aim than this guy
Im a sombra main and can confirm there are lots of ways to play sombra. I usually like to go for back row but I've seen lots of sombras play differently. Also I usually start off with hack, virus, then start shooting. I sometimes do lead off with virus. Should I change this?
The ADD is real. Hitting buttons just because an ability is on cooldown without a second thought as to what it is they actually want to accomplish. At first, I thought his team really wasn't helping because every now and then he did get a good pick. But like emongg said, they would then teleport out for no reason rather than following up on getting another pick so the fight could snowball. I don't think this person is bronze. But not yet good enough to be gold.
i just started to think about when i used to play OW1 comp think it was season 6 and well the goal was to go from plat to diamond in a duo. long sotry short, the other guy that i played with did get to dimond while i was 3 SR short and of course i ended in a losing streak and ended to gold after that i gave up and more or less never tried comp again. (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
Aim is bad, positioning is bad, decision making is bad. Playing a flank assassin and consistently losing 1-on-1s against junk until they're too afraid to take them anymore... not sure why they are even silver, lol
i’m sorry but their aim is actually ATROCIOUS. emongg always says “it’s not always about aim” but in this case…. i think it’s part of the aim. i play console as well and i’ll admit my aim isn’t the best all the time but this is just terrible
It's almost always better to lead with virus. The enemy isn't expecting anyone to be there so it's way easier to hit when you lead with it. Hack should really only be used to disable important Tank/Support abilities/ultimates. Leading with hack on someone is almost always a waste of time
as a diamond sombra console main since 2018 this guy is lucky to be in silver and should very well be in bronze, hes probably in silver because of his teammates and needs a bunch of things to work on. Fundamentally and in regards to his atrocious aim as well as his lack of awareness in his ults so his teammates cant follow up on emp.
The comments here are harsh, god. I know that whoever submits these VODs knows they will be subject to public scrutiny, but damn, I hope they never open yt comments.
I’d say silver is to high for this special player 😂 felt like I was watching an actual bot play
I feel like all his problems would be solved if he just relaxed on the comp play and went into the custom games to find the aim game and turn that hoe up till he can hit everyone consistently without missing….it helped sm in higher ranks against mercy’s and kirikos.
assuming the player is a random and there are multiple people requesting for a review; the concept is good but it doesn't have to be 30 minutes long for a player at this level. After one minute in, it is obvious that they have really fundamental issues with their gameplay and video becomes repetitive and less interesting. why not review multiple people in that time frame which can be more entertaining.
For all of those complaining that they are stuck in a certain rank they always can change their "shell", meaning a Smurf account, and another and another till they reach the top 500. Never give up!
Bro's been playing for 4 years and can't aim for shit '-'
I'm sorry, but there's A LOT to improve before he can't climb up the ranks.
Why they deserve to be in silver from a diamon sombra:
- the aim needs a lot of work
- stop fighting people head on sombra is a flanker assassin that loves to pick out stragglers
- stop aim at the floor it makes lining up headshots a lot harder
- dont apply birus if you dont intend to follow up bcz thats just free ult charge for the healers
- sombra has one of the fastest ttks so practice those headshots, i always take out both healers in a few seconds flat hell even tanks have a hard time surviving virus plus a full mag to the head
I'm not gonna trash this player but that aim is just awful and the fact they're sitting still so much. Sombra should always be on the move looking for the next opportunity to distract the enemy.
Can’t wait to see the hate comments cuz he’s using somber just cuz they get diff by her
As a sombra main this was fucking garbage in nearly every way they were moving way too slowly to actually get anything good out of sombra if they pulled a stunt like this in gold they would go right back to silver maybe even bronze
As someone who played console fps since the OG CoD 4 days i can see a glaring issue, they cant track the enemies, if they pbumped their sens up just a tiny bit you would see an improvement straight away, rest is just game sense
Problem is…. Playing sombra lol you can’t carry solo with sombra. Not in the fight enough, your team needs to be on the same page… just not gonna happen lol
This guy doesn’t understand about taking height on sombra even right at the start I would go up on to the ledge and just try to irritate, especially in those ranks normally they just turn round and focus the sombra and that creates so much space for your team
whats scary is that for this kind of content, typically players will submit a clip where they think they played really well...and if this is them playing "really well"...😅
I was going to say homeboy should just play soldier or cass or something i dont think sombra tracer reaper type characters are this person bread and butter. Not hunting for picks what so ever in my opinion
as a high silver low gold player what the fuck no way im THIS BAD
Think about it this way: What's easier to do for the enemy you're engaging?
-Jumping in a direction, or shooting a target they can't see yet?
His use of translocation to get on high ground and in off angles was really good. But he has really bad virus accuracy, which often leads him to fail to secure a kill.
this is just bad aim, he can have the most insane position and map knowledge ever, but if he can’t even track with the smg 80% of the time its not going to achieve anything
Id like to say truly not awful gameplay but im not really seeing what the sombra did to contribute to the team at all
Definitely need to work on aim and seems too scared to 1v1
No judgement, but I hope you realize after watching your own gameplay, that you do in fact belong in silver
He's playing overwatch 1 Sombra and never adapted to the virus shot its old school hack -damage -translocate
the virus accuracy is disgusting
anyway, leading with Virus is accurate but it depends on the hero you're targeting & the situation.
i searched up silver sombra gameplay to see if my gameplay is truly silver, i must be top 500 after watching this
Im a silver 1 sombra on pc. Why does this look like plywood 5 😂 console is a whole different world.
I would definitely not lead with a hack. There is just way to much for the opponent to turn around punish you
in fairness to them it wasn't a reset by any standards of what people were expecting how ever they defiantly belong in that rank
Me who has been in silver since 2016 o7
this entire video i’m sitting here like, go behind their team…. 😭
If u have to main sombra to even do shit u should be no higher than silver, I said it, sorry ur bad if u play sombra or have to
They are missing the viruses bc they're hacking first. Someone didnt get the memo that she got a rework.
I do shots virus shots bc like mercy onece you let go of one button it automatically goes back to the other