This Ram 3500 Cummins Truck Camper Is the Cure for Your Sprinter 4x4 Lust!
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Great video Andre, I want one!
“Only $145k!” lol
For $145,000…I better be able to get from drivers seat to the throne, in case of emergency - without getting out of the vehicle.
Not bad compared to a $400,000 earthroamer
Just to buy the std RAM3500 with a right hand conversion would be over 150k here in Oz.
In ‘Merican dollars?
Sell in 5 years for $21k
Old Chevy S10: $3,500
Walmart tent: $19,95
Sleeping bag: $29,95
Water bottles: $5
Poop in the woods: FREE
For a S-10? Try 2K
@@motorworks8291 I raise your bet by half: 1,000$ for an ok S10
3,500$ for a '98 silverado
@@motorworks8291 Even better
“Poop in the woods: FREE” 😂😂😂
this.
we had a $420,000 ram convert come through work yesterday.
it didnt really impress me that much, mainly due to the price.
i mean sure, he had a full chassis GVM upgrade to 5.5tons and lifted about 4 inches, he had the popup on top, toolboox and kitchen/pantry etc underneath that. he had automatic popup CB aerials, he had a big-ass towball on it, 5 grand worth of spotlights.. he had some other fancy stuff too.. but at almost half a million dollars, i reckon he got ripped off.
gimme a 4x4 bus with a motorbike and boat for a cool $250,000 total, any day. far more versatility
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@@Lq32332 Some more blatant than others.
I Absolutely love it, when I hear that our Australian designed options appeal to the American market.
This will be the next trend in the American market, mark my words. More folks are ordering trays and canopies. For good reason.
This is a great setup.
The only issue I have is the flatbed Hawk is "Permanently" attached it is bolted to the bed. If you want to use your truck for something else, it is difficult to remove.
They should make a latch system that is easy to detach from the flat bed
Andre, you are by far the best truck reviewer on TFL, keep up the great work.
Ouch!
Great video, Andre! Good to see Roman not interrupting you lol
😂👍🏻
Good Morning Andrey and the TFL team. Hope you enjoy a peaceful Sunday!
That is one sweet overlander! Thank you for the excellent overview Andre.
Out of all the gang (they all rock) I think Andre is my favorite. Such a cool dude! I am proud of my Colorado boys! Love the content through all channels! Thanks as always for the entertainment guys
I've been to the Four Wheel and Buckstop factories and had products installed at each one. Both EXCELLENT companies!
We need to redefine " on a budget " ... thats a lot of money!
Well, it is on a budget. Just a bigger budget. Maybe not the “every day working man’s” budget.
When an earth roamer is like upwards of half a million this is technically cheaper by a lot.
Very nice setup but $145k and no AC? Seems like an awful lot, that same money would buy you a nice brand new class C motorhome. I bought and remodeled a 36’ class A diesel pusher RV for less than $20k and it has not one but two air conditioners lol. To each their own I suppose.
Yep, but these things aren't for normal people. All of these 100 plus thousand dollar toys are just that. Toys for wealthy folks most of whom will never put more than 20,000 miles on them before they sell them off. It's the same reason you can get one of those class C motorhomes that's barely three years old with less than 20k on the odometer for less than half the new price. There just isn't any in between. It's either dirt cheap but it won't get you where you want to go or it's so expensive you could rent a jeep and all the camping supplies for a month, stay in luxury hotels when you needed a break from roughing it, eat at the finest restaurants every night you're in town and still have enough cash left to do it all again every year for the next 15 to 25 years. Unless you're a skilled mechanic and fabricator adventure vehicles are cost prohibitive for all but the wealthy and those who live in them full time.
53,685 bidens for a couple of velcros and some aluminium crap. At least don't call it "budget"
Great job Andre!!!
Great review-thanks
Granted it’s a viable option in a world of increasing choices. Expensive, yes it is but it’s also brand new with a warranty so that’s a huge plus…
Thank you for sharing
Tacoma with a camper shell is a budget earthroamer for 40k
yeah for that price I would probably build out a 4x4 transit or shuttle bus.
I Love this Rig👍🏾
Yes, TFL to the rescue on Sunday morning as I’m trying to figure out what to watch while I have breakfast.
I think it's crazy that we could feel spending 145K to go camping is a bargain 😅
I agree the worse the weather the more you would want a hard sided camper of some sort. But then you have some monster you are pushing through the wind, a taller vehicle for getting under threes and your center of gravity goes way up hindering your off road capability. So, plenty of trade offs and plenty. of options.
BTW Andre you the man, always love watching you soldiering.😁
All that money for a no AC sweat box. I'd rather try and put AC in a tent.
Step 1: buy a tent
Step 2: buy a mobile AC unit (roughly 400)
Step 3: save 30k
@@TheNubNetwork Step 4 put the tent into your half ton and go to the campground and rent a site with water and power. Step 5 buy a white tarp so tent does not have greenhouse effect. Already did it this summer. Anyways just saying all the money for this unit and you think they should have AC available for 100 degree heat.
@@peiguy1982 AC is an option on all FWC models, and almost nobody chooses it. I didn't, because I almost never "camp" where they have hookups. When camping OTG, that AC unit is useless weight unless you bring a generator and make a bunch of noise.
@@kiplambel4052 I don't know what the humidity is like where you live. But if you don't have AC here its so damp when you wake up you have to check and see if you wet yourself overnight. Just saying. I guess it is quite dry inland.
@@peiguy1982 I spend a lot of my leisure time on the coast of N. CA, OR and WA, or in the Sierras, Cascades or Rockies. If I spent a lot of time in a hot environment, I'd simply add the AC unit and carry my Honda 2200 generator.
My '20 F150 and FWC Hawk slide-in was only half that price. (and only weighs 7100, with 2 feet less wheelbase) A lot of the naysayers cain't see the forest for the trees! That's a $100k truck (including accessories and flatbed tray) and a very well optioned camper.
Most people who opt for the $3000 water heater and indoor shower only use it once. I didn't bother. I'm satisfied with the outdoor shower (including water heater) for 1/3 the price. What this is NOT is a class C, with Onan genset, relegated to road travel, or a camper van, also relegated to roads, but with less comfort.
My point is that you can spend as much as you want on a truck, and a camper, or you can sleep under a tarp by the freeway overpass. The choice is yours.
That is one sweet ride!
Compared to other NEW commercial options, I guess it is a relatively good value. But, I have less than $10k total in my rig. I'm definitely not the target demographic.
As someone who started looking Into the world of overlanding the price really isn’t that bad for this style of set up. I’ve watched other channels first thing to get rid of is the indoor shower it just wasted money and space. The canister toilet well if you have a kid it’s nice to have that way if he or she has to go in the middle of the night. There was an incident where someone left their camper in the middle of night and a mountain lion was waiting outside. So how far away from civilization you going to go. The truck alone diesel 4x4 lifted with bumpers new wheels and tires and the flat bed conversion. The truck alone is $100k rig. Without the camper.
Did the mountain lion get them?
In the case of camping in spots like Northern Canada, ANY soft-top camper or cloth tent is a problem for me personally because every local Black Bear, Grizzly Bear or Cougar (Mountain Lion) will tear it to shreds looking for food! It's a big problem EVEN IN MY SUBURBAN Metro Vancouver neighbourhood as I was going to work just before writing this post, ANOTHER Black Bear was scrounging around in my backyard for food! If you don't have a true hard-top camper YOU will be dinner OR your camper will be torn to shreds! That's why I want ONLY full fibreglass or composite hard camper tops.
If you use a TENT in the boonies, YOU SHOULD USE a portable electrified fence to keep your and your family safe from the BIG AND HUNGRY CRITTTERS who find humans a tasty snack up here in Canada!
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OR you can buy a travel trailer with more space and tenth of the cost.
Apples and oranges. Some people don't like pulling a trailer.
That is not a comparison. Unless you are talking strictly "adventure" trailers that may have a bed inside of a 10-foot box.
You will not get a travel trailer in the places this truck and camper can go.
TT's suck to pull on road trips and any 'remote' campsite you can get a TT to is going to be accessible to too many people for my taste.
One tenth the cost??? Somebody hasn't been shopping lately. And the truck costs the same whether you're towing a trailer or carrying a camper.
@@stout_tossme7541 It would seem that way but what I wonder is how tall is that truck with the camper on it. Most who complain about not being able to get into places say it's due to excess height, not an incapable suspension.
That’s pretty cool.
Air Conditioning?!?!?!? Yeah, most of the southern US is sitting at 100 degrees. And Florida exists at needing AC about 7-9 months of the year. So, for $145,000, or $53,000 or whatever price, if you can’t be comfortable, it’s not worth it.
You don’t go to where you know it will be uncomfortably hot then… It ain’t rocket surgery. I live in AZ and have a FWC Hawk on my Power Wagon. I wheel where the nights are cool. Even closed up, they are remarkably cool inside, or at least mine is with a white roof and silver exterior.
Nice review
It appears that people are finally starting to realize the value in full size trucks for overlanding rigs. There have certainly been many over the years that have used them, but it seems in the last couple of years they have finally hit mainstream. A full size truck actually has power to move the weight added for overlanding and torque to turn the larger tires with ease. Nice setup!
No. No they are not. This rig is ridiculous. All you need is a Jeep and tent. You don't need any of this and you cannot go very far off-road with that long wheelbase. If you consider "overlanding" to be driving on the highway, then this is perfect for that!
@@SixMonthsIn I guess our definitions of overlanding are different. Normally I'm against all the excess of overlanding, pretty much any vehicle with food, water, and somewhere to sleep makes an overlander in my opinion. For an off-roader the smaller Jeeps, Tacomas, Rangers, Frontiers, etc are much better, but people are always surprised at full size trucks being in moab, black bear pass, or other "hard" trails. I agree, for true off-roading a skinnier, shorter wheelbase vehicle is better, but for overlanding long distances to remote areas, the full size trucks are soo much more comfortable and can handle decent offroad situations. However they don't like mud or sand very well because they are so heavy.
@@EngineAdventures I don't disagree. I have a 2007 F350 with a Lance 990 truck camper and I know the limitations of my rig. Everything about my rig says "don't drive it offroad". But this rig weighs almost as much as my 12,400 lbs rig so it does not make sense to take this truck any place but the highway. "Overlanding" is just a marketing term. Fake bead locks, giant ridiculous bumpers you don't need, 37" tires and all of those boxes hanging off the back are just "coolness" factors and would be the first things I got rid of.
Pretty slick.
You've seen Andre *just over 6'2* smearnov before but introducing today we have Andre *just under 6'3* smearnov.
Awesome rig 💪🏻👍
The spare tire location eats up about 2' that could have been additional space inside the camper. I would rather have more inside space and hang the spare tire on the rear bumper.
Agree! The spare can be rear mounted on an 8 foot camper, instead of the 6-1/2 foot one.
Or just keep it in the factory location.
@@Prevailingbucket Probably cant fit a 37" tire in the stock location under the bed without interferance with the exhaust and suspension.
love 4wheelcampers....really good
I used to be able to do this in my converted radio flyer wagon until I grew too big after 5 years old
Drooling I want one
Get your half ton truck and tow your side by side behind you.
You can stay in a lot of nice hotels/ motels for 145 thousand dollars.
Very nice! What have they done to the suspension, in particular the rear?
How are you even supposed to fill the DEF tank on this thing? That's not within easy reach when you are trying to fill using jugs, or even one of those DEF pumps at the truck stops
That was my question, too. And the H2O fill.
I like the FWC's Project M pop-up camper. Minimalistic, light-weight and versatile. I'd be very grateful if you guys would have a chance to review it as well.
Would love to see you guys get a hold of a quigley van set up. 145k is a lot of cash formus common folks. Cool rig though.
Worth it
I’ve been looking at options for a budget camp rig like this. Here’s what I’ve learned…
Small & Light option:
Ford Ranger Supercab bare bones 4x4 = $31k, 1650 lbs capacity.
Four Wheel Camper 6’ with toilet & front dinette = $30k, 1300 lbs.
$61k total
Bigger & More Comfortable option:
Base trim 3/4 or 1 ton regular cab 4x4 (gas not diesel) = $42k, 3700 lbs capacity.
Palomino 8’ with full bathroom = $15k, 1900 lbs.
(You can probably add a rooftop A/C on top of the Palomino.)
$57k total
Budget camp rig? Is this a joke? $61k is not "budget".
@@SixMonthsIn post better options based on your budget. Mine was roughly half of the one on the video. Put yours out there so we can nitpick it. 🤣
@@davidheckart639 My rig is not built for off-road, I can assure you of that. I spent $16k on a 2007 F350 Supercab DRW with the 6.8L V10 and $7,200 on a 1998 Lance 990 so my total cost was $23,200. But, I have a ton of creature comforts for much less. I can easily tow a Jeep behind my rig and do all of the off-roading I want and still have all the comforts of home. It has 400W of solar, a 40A DC-DC charger, 40 gallons of fresh water (plus 6 gallons for water heater) and an additional 40 Gallons in the rear behind the seats in the truck. Besides the freshwater in the camper , it has a dry bath, toilet and a sink in the bathroom , I have an outside shower on the truck complete with a 12V water pump and hot and cold water. The hot water is supplied using a heat exchanger in the heater hose on the truck engine and basically supplies endless hot water on demand. This means I have 80 gallons of water available, 2 separate water systems where my wife and I can take hot showers at the same time. I only weigh slightly more than the FWC and truck in this video at 12,400 lbs. It is not an off-road rig since the camper hangs 3 ft 3 in off the bed of the truck (where the 22 gallon gray tank and 26 gallon black tank are housed). Departure angle is ridiculous and it has a 158" wheelbase. But, I am a helluva lot more comfortable in my rig than anyone will be in that Hawk. My camper is 23 years old and has never leaked and is wood-framed. There are no FWC campers that old that don't leak or haven't experienced water damage. I have been all over the country in my rig in temps down to -13F with no issues. So, I spent only 16% of the cost of that rig and been more comfortable and traveled more. I've been places no Super Duty truck has any business going but I have done it for a lot less money and never had a problem.
awesome!!
I own a 2020 FWC Grandby on a Superduty F350 crew cab. I big advantage to a FWC, similar to above, is that if you already own the truck you can get into a nicely appointed Grandby for ~$35K. Leave your truck bed on the truck and remove the Grandly as needed. Maybe 30 min to remove and an hour to put back on. The other big advantage is the sort of rig I own and shown in the video is MUCH more capable off roading than a ~$150K Sprinter. Also towing is hugely better in a rig like this. Where the Sprinter shines is driving down the road and accessing the back for a sandwich or cold drink. Talking to Sprinter owners the fuel mileage is about the same- within 2mpg. Also covert camping is a Sprinter is a lot easier. These pop up campers are hard to hide. If you need to buy the truck and all of the associated off roading gear as well as the FWC - it is going to cost you! That being said, I see a ton of sprinter camper conversions out and about. So, someone has the money or can get a loan.
This rig is nice, no doubt about it. It is pretty big though. If I took that thing up some of the forest service roads here in Virginia, there would be some serious pinstripes. Just too wide for many of the narrow (sometimes overgrown) trails.
Yep. I pinstripe the hell out of my 5th gen 4 runner around here. I can only I imagine what it would do to that truck.
@@howardraines5799 My Colorado has some trail pinstripes too.
@@garretlewis4103 Mine we’re so bad I had to learn paint correction. 🤣 What part of the state are you in?
@@howardraines5799 Mine have not been quite that bad. Wax and a little compound helped with mine. I live between Richmond and Fredericksburg. You?
@@garretlewis4103 guys I love meandering around your state as well as pa and wva. When I was stationed there I had two vehicles...one was an older 2 wheel drive regulator cab f!50 with an old fashioned high camper cap and tire chains. I went through all the forest roads and up and down places with bf Goodrich tires. Then camp. Get out and walk alot for hunting and fishing. Beautiful. Then also had a 96 grand Cherokee four wheel drive as well and that was like a billy goat. Took out the back seats and slept in that too. Both vehicles had their advantages. I really enjoyed walking and hiking around. Met some awesome folks inclythe guys who run their bear dogs out there in the mountains west of 81. That was fun! Back here in ne ohio it's nice but very limited public land so more congested. South eastern ohio is nice. But I miss the hills in your state but arent aw blessed to go canoeing in the Adirondacks and then hike pa and wva and va and TN and NC and not have to drive out west? Awesome! Hope you guys have a great fall!
If I am not mistaken, that battery system has a 2.4kwh capacity. That's pretty good!
I noticed they changed the title. Wasnt it originally something like "A Bargain Camper" or something like that ?? lol
Never mind. 11k lbs
That’s bad ass!! I would have guessed just over $160K with all the mods.
some might say it's too expensive. nonsense, might even be undervalued in today's market. regardless, this is a great looking build, and people have always paid a premium for looks and fit & finish
Review a scout camper !
LOL SNAKE FARM! Good song choice!
I like the set up but it’s more expensive than my house haha
How do these pop up campers do in the wind? Do the walls flap?
And also,you can take the camper off the tray bed. So it's more versatile than a van or RV.
Hey Andre, now that you have your CDL license can you do a full walk around and review of a tractor trailer?
Do you think the Ram Heavy Duty will move to the 5th gen cab in 2023?
When are you going to drag race it against the TRX? 🤣🤣
Or what is the plan to get it overheated?😁
When did Ram go back to leaf springs on the back of HD trucks? Thought they where only air and coil?
2500 trucks are coil rears, 3500 trucks have always been leafs. Air is an option on both but is a different setup on each.
Aaaaand: we come full circle. The man who started EarthRoamer started out with a Ram 2500 with a pop-up and built the first EarthRoamer for himself precisely because he discovered that soft side pop-ups are horrible in poor weather.
Dave went bust too in a couple years. I had ER #6, for 2 weeks. He had to buy it back.
Hey Andre can you do an mpg loop with this rig?
Maybe I missed it, but what suspension installed?
The only advantage a Sprinter gives over a truck camper is basic footprint! But that’s also the greatest shortcoming. Some might add prices on truck campers can get high, but the Sprinters can be costly, with around half the available power and capacity to go places and carry/tow. Myself? I would prefer a small Med hight Sprinter to fit in my garage. But that’s if I were alone. But with a wife an two dogs? A 3500 HD/SD, single rear wheel 6’ bed truck camper, (flat beds are a HOA NO no! , in mid level trim, from either of the big three with the best deal at the time. With a four seasons slide in camper, Arctic preferably, or Lance. As I much prefer to drive a truck than van.
Hey Andre if it was just you and your wife would you consider a similar rig but with a single cab only? My thoughts are the single cab would be a bit more maneuverable when off-roading. What do you think?
Wow who makes the boxes on the back??? I’m dying to get something like that for my camper.
So several months ago you guys get a short talk about a motorhome that you bought with the Ford Godzilla gas in general. It had immediate problems with the coils I believe. I don’t know if you ever did a follow up that story I haven’t seen them if you did. But I’m curious if you guys have use that motorhome for any amount of time in the Colorado mountains. I’d be interested to know what your total weight is wet. And what your actual true fuel mileage is in real life scenario out of that gas engine. Let me know please
Bad ass!!!!
the real compare is with a good non pop top camper. I will stick to my northern Lite. With the top down that one is a better rough country driver for sure, but I can get mine into the places I want to go and that is pretty rough. And it cost me half what that camper and bed cost.
How many horsepower and what
is the 0-60?
any plans for a pass through for the 4 wheel camper in the future?
Probably, fot aditional $10k.
How is $145K a budget vehicle?
The alternative is 400k
i'd love to see a camper vid about something that more than 3 people in the world can afford. like in the 5-15k range.
How is it actually arranged with Ram service around the world?
Honestly a Lance truck camper is the way to go
And you can own one, unlike the Cybertruck which has been moved off another year . . again. :-)
Cheaper just to get the smallest Class C non slide Rv and add four wheel drive after market to it.
Really depends on what type of roads you drive on. Most motorhomes are made of wood framing held together by staples. Not a good combination on washboard roads.
Tim Roach Most new ones are aluminum framed and the price differential of close to 70k seems worth the risk.
Ram Heavy Duty proudly made in Mexico
Must be where Ford received that last batch of 30,000 rear axles from…
if they made it where you get from the back to front like a class c be great.
I look at this as a awesome fishing rig, put a boat behind this truck and you could explore the whole continent.
Yeah, so basically for the price of the base model and another $1k I got a '02 F350 7.3 Powerstroke Crewcab with just under 200k and f a Lance camper with it's own shower stall, toilet, bathroom sink, kitchenette with kitchen table, tons of storage and an overcab area with queen bed. And mine is fully aluminum.
Cost more than my house.
145k! You can stay at a laquinta for 98 a night that's 1480 nights an you get to make your own waffles in the morning.
pop ups with soft sides are no good in dust, extreme heat and cold especially bad...ill keep my sprinter rv
Can you tow anything with those boxes on the back?
with a hitch extension
I'm surprised the brake lights are legal on that thing! It looked like you could hardly see them with those boxes on the rear end.
No argument that it is a very nice set up. For winter maybe. As many have already been pointing out, no A/C and you got yourself a miserable living situation. As for whether or not it is a better option than a "Sprinter van" set up, that all depends on if you want to camp, or have adventures away from the camp area. I would take a Sprinter fully loaded and tow a side by side or boat or dirt bikes. And Bobs your uncle. :)
Condensation is a nightmare in in FWC models. Aluminum is a great conductor of the cold and you have to wipe everything down every morning after breathing all night. I have never seen a used FWC camper that did not have moisture problems and wood rot to some degree. The floor and the sides are wood and are just as susceptible to moisture problems as any other camper. They have seals just like every other camper that need to be maintained. Most of their image is just "marketing". They are no more durable than any other popup and are harder to repair if they get damaged. They claim the frames flex for offroad travel because they only weld the aluminum framing on 2 sides. There is NOTHING special about FWC campers. They use the same materials as everyone else and are subject to the same problems. All of the FWC "fanboying" is mostly offroad people bragging about their rigs. If you have ever hung around the "wheeling" crowd you know what I am talking about. Everything is just a pissing contest with them.
Budget overlander?
Old Dre seems to get taller (and heavier) in every video. Are his heals just getting larger?
I thought you could only get the aisen with a duality?
Nope 3500 any configuration can have it. I have a 19 SRW with the Aisin
That's a pretty penny
Why are the hidden compartments is the thickness of bricks of cocaine.....lol under bed the slide out the back lol
I have no need for that. I want that.
I had a popup camper on chev 1/2 ton was not a gas saver, & sweat like mad when cold and plastic broke when cold out. Built my own custom cap, still in use. These are for super rich posers that read instructions. Happy camping!
The F-250 Tremor looked soooooo much better with the camper.