How To Improve On Sport Oil Patterns
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
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BOWLING SPORT SHOT BASICS
In this episode we demonstrate the basics to developing and succeeding on a sport oil patterns.
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Thanks BRAD& KYLE. The basics are the most important! Many bowlers get lost in technical stuff. When I bowled my first league in 1985, urethane balls were still new and the lanes were wood. The lanes would change so quickly BACK then. I noticed how much longer the shot would stay consistent ON SYNTHETIC lanes using reactive resin cover stocks. Keep up the great videos guys.👍👍
I would love to see a tournament where each round (qualifying, matchplay, finals) they changed the pattern but never disclosed what it was. Would really see who can handle anything thrown at them.
Amen.
I’ve seen them put out 4 different patterns across 4 lanes and then have the pro’s bowl a game on the lanes each shot is on a different pattern, one time my house was out of oil so they substituted with vegetable oil the highest avg set that night was 159 from a guy that usually avg’d 220 or better, and that was the worst thing we were setting averages that night the ball would not hook at all unless you threw it about 7-8 mph I threw my normal 17mph shot to line up it slides right into the gutter so I throw up 5 it just slides down and hooks maybe 3-4 boards was horrible
Thanks for the tips, I used several tips from this video and won my tournament last week
Thanks for the $1000 CND
Congrats
badrus zaman thanks
Getting tips from the Pro’s are the best.
Thanks guys
Oh snap! It's Kyle and Joe Jackson. Joe's stepping out tonight....😊😊
Great video. Great tips. Very assuring knowing that my thinking during practice is not far off from what's discussed in this video. Simple and straight to the point.
Hey guys great video. I had to go to a Sarge Easter grip this past season because of a hyper extended finger. I've lost a lot of revolutions with this grip. I would like to see a video on how to deal with this. Thanks.
Hey guys, Do a video on the new usbc rules on 3 oz side weight and no balance holes.
can you do some videos regarding about the spinner style???
Great video! I've made huge strides in my game in the last couple years and have become a name in scratch bowling in my area. However, even after everything I've learned I still struggle with transition especially dealing with a sport condition that has become wet/dry. By that I mean when the ball sees the friction to the right it over hooks regardless of how far left I get with my feet, and when the ball is kept a little tighter to the pocket it sees too much oil and skids to leave bucket or light splits. What are general ideas for tackling this condition? (speed, tilt, surface, type ball)
Great video. keep them coming
This will help me a lot hopefully I can get my PBA/Sport pattern league avg up to 190 or better so i can bowl professional if I want I live close to Vegas and I like the 2014 USBC open pattern and from what I’ve seen most open pattern are heavy flat 1:1 oil patterns around 44 ft
thank you for this video. I'm going to junior gold and I was Having a little trouble on the short patterns.
Thanks guys,I’m gonna try the process you outlined tomorrow nite on 45 ft shark pattern
Came back to reference. Thanks
Your videos are very informative I will direct other people in the direction of these video because of the information they have good video guys
Can you make a video about the finish position
Very helpful, guys.
Great video. What was the pattern?
interesting tips, thanks, I would like you to make a video about one important thing you mentioned toward the end of this video: "The oil is allways moving". I've heard of this but nobody could tell me how is it moving?, what should i do about it?
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Great videos.
Can you make a video showing your arsenal you took to a tournament and which balls y'all used and why? Ideally a tournament y'all both bowled and what you both took and used.
Thanks
Just curious....I noticed Brad's hand was at about the 4 to 5 o'clock position at release. What would you think about maybe moving the hand closer to the 6 o'clock position at release (behind the ball) and trying to hit the pocket instead of moving left? Wise or unwise? Thanks
Solid advice guys - Thanks
Brad did u switch from motiv to storm I seen that u were throwing a storm phaze 2
Before you start qualifying and if so match play, do you see whose bowling on your next pair to get an idea how there breaking down the lanes. Being around them for a number of years you'll have a good idea where there playing the lanes. Correct or wrong?
You say that if several people throw that line in practice it will be unplayable soon. Would you then immediately jump far left and try a totally different line to stay away from them?
I wnna know where your bowling that you get 15min of warm-up practice? 😆 team event is usually 10 and and 5-7 for d/s in every event I've been in including USBC Open National's
All three of my leagues are 15 minutes of warm-up practice.
PBA tournaments including Regionals are 15 minutes of practice.
One of my leagues back in upstate NY used to give us 20 mins of practice
Another great video, keep up the good work and Brad, I think Storm was a smart move.
Awesome information guys. Keep up the videos!!!!!!
Hi, Brad and kyle love you guys ,appreciate everything you guys do!! I was wondering is you guys can help me make a game plan for the Allen pattern for my high school girls to roll with for regionals thank you for your time???
So just got a new ball and was wondering what would be a good pin set for a scandal for sport oil please gel Brad and Kyle?
Is that a Kansas City Chiefs logo on Brad’s shirt?
My team, too.
Nah famn that's a arizona cardinal logo 🤦♂️
He’s from KC
HumClan Feat. The 9:13 Source - So am I. GO CHIEFS!
Hey guys i really need help on my bowling. Sometimes i get strikes, i just want to be consistent. I'm having trouble with feet.
@Brad and Kyle, how would you play the Wolf pattern if you're someone who cannot control urethane? I don't use a thumb and have tried throwing urethane, doesn't work for me. Any suggestions?
I guess they don't read comments.
Joe the Mailman this video was also uploaded a year ago
This is very useful and awesome!
Great advice guys! What if I'm hitting the pocket solid but keep leaving a ringing ten pin. Been told to move back six inches on approach and it does work on my next shot for a strike but then back to leaving ten pins. Any advice? Thanks
BC Paletta Most of the time when I’m not Carrying, it is when I am not staying with my shot or staying down. If I pop up or step to the right then the rotation on the ball is going to be different causing ten pins. If you stay down and with your shot and hit the pocket you should be able to carry at a higher percentage.
TSlim COD Thank you! I'm gonna focus on that tonight in my league. Appreciate the advice
Darrin Lindsey appreciate the advice. I will try that tonight. I do move left and right and adjust my eyes but never tried just 1/2 a board. I always move 2 to 3 boards so that could be part of my problem as well. Thanks
Darrin Lindsey I agree actually I’m redoing this comment, if you stay balanced at the line and stay with the ball and you throw a good pocket shot and strike, then you have the correct angle of entry and the next shot you fall off to the right and rotation on the ball is different. There will be a different rotation on the backend therefore different angle of entry leading to a ten pin. You can make 1 1/2 board moves, I do it sometimes on 10 pins just don’t do anything drastic.
Darrin Lindsey I wrote a new comment refresh your page.
Was that a Kegel pattern or PBA Pattern? We have had our sport shot league for over 20 years and some of these Kegel patterns seem impossible... like Red Square:(
Red Square is playing the topography of your center basically.
My favorite pattern is house shot cause that’s all I’ve ever played on lol. Wait never mind I’ve played the Johnny petraglia, don carter, and scorpion. I think I like petraglia more so I can amp up my speed and get comfortable
Great work guys
I see pros with the follow threw left of there head and my kid has picked this up.. but how do you tell them to follow threw to there target if there follow threw is going left?
I want to hear your guys take on asyms vs symmetrical balls
Thanks for this. Very helpful!
Really great video guys
These videos are super cool!
Good advice for the most part. My only criticsm is you’re not quite right on the rule of 31. Subtracting 31 from the length of the pattern gives the number of the board where the ball should be at the end of the pattern, not the break point.
Basically the same thing...
www.bowl.com/Source/Source_Home/Reading_The_Lane/
So is break point the point where the ball exits the pattern or actually starts to hook?
@@scooterthewolf3890 Breakpoint is where the ball is furthest away from the pocket before it starts to hook. This is often the end of the pattern
@@scooterthewolf3890 It depends on how you throw it. If you throw it superslow, you will have your breakpoint within the pattern, if you throw it superfast you will maybe ending up having your breakpoint way into the dry area.
you dont always know what pattern your throwing on lol least i dont
Do you walk towards the arrow or do u drift away fr it? Let's say, I'm standing on thirty and my target is the third arrow, what should be the direction of my approach?
always walk straight for the sake of consistency. Lots of right-handed players have a natural drift to the left, but as long as it's consistent, shouldn't be a big deal.
How about throwing your 1st ball at 25% speed with lots of rotation, right down the middle. That’ll give you a real good idea where the oil pattern ends as it won’t have the speed to skid past the exit point.
Absolutely not. This is what causes people to loft the gutter cap. The best thing to do is to burn up a line. If you are on a team, have them take their most aggressive ball, put on as much surface as possible with it, and shoot right outside the track area. This is what college bowlers do. It opens up the lanes to the point where later in the day, any given sport shot will be much more scoreable.
@@SirJoelsuf1 the goal of that 1 ball is to find the length of the pattern... its not going to burn up the middle of the lane.
@@TheVlad1616 Oh I thought you meant burning it up during practice. Yeah, exactly one ball thrown there is fine to see where the out of bounds area is on shorter or medium sport shots I guess.
It's when floor dumpers take their most aggressive ball, take it down to 180, and rope it up 12 on a 40 foot flat pattern because "they can't find a line" is what gets to me. That kind of thing causes people to loft the gutter cap which is not good.
To that point, I'm all for taking your most aggressive ball down to 180...provided you play up the rail with it. That's what I do, turns any sport shot under 42 feet into PBA Cheetah regardless of volume especially if I have a group who can break them down with me.
@@SirJoelsuf1 Right, I remember talking to the Saginaw Valley State University coach, something like 15 yrs ago, and he said they watched where their upcoming opponents were playing, and then, during practice, took their most porous balls and burned up the other team's lines. They already had plans to play totally different angles. Neither team scored super-high, but SV was able to win because of it.
Sirs my question is i bowl with no thumb i fall off alot could you please help me if you're not busy
Everything is angles and timing for me. That’s usually how I adapt my play.
What do they mean by putting surface on the ball ?
Joshua Blanchard making the ball duller or switch to a dull ball
They should make a game called what is the lane of the pattern they bowl on all the patters that are down and try to guess what oil pattern is on the lane.
What I've noticed is, the power professionals just have umpteen different balls drilled different ways, and just play roughly the same line, stand in roughly the same spot, and throw the same speed, regardless of the pattern, because they have defeated the patterns with their equipment.
"Oh, it's the Cheetah. Gotta play up board 4." No, you don't. Just pick up bowling ball number 92 from your arsenal, stand on 25, throw up 14, just like you always do....Oh, the Viper? Hmmm... I think we'll go with ball 27 of 100, stand on 25, throw up 14....wait, the Shark? K. Grab ball number 36, Board 25, throw up 14....
Thats not how that works. Thats not how any of this works.
What is the difference between "normal" nd sports patterns
Less oil for sports shots and a flatter pattern, meaning you don't have the same pool of oil in the middle and dry on the outside like house shots do. This makes it so that any miss left will keep going left and misses right stay right. So you got to be accurate.
In this video is actually is true everyone does it just saying you guys I'm on your side
Sooo if the right side is out of play then what? I had a terrible day today. I just couldn't figure anything out! My strongest bowling ball was just going straight into 3. I've only been bowling for 3 months but today I was baffled to say the least. Someone help me.
Go chiefs
Are either of you gold certified coaches thru USBC?
Even if no graph is available, the lane mechanic will let you know how many feet the pattern is.
Thats assuming you get to speak to the lane tech.
Uhh... Junior Gold lol
The "Go-To" Ball? lol I only own one ball!
What happens when a house shot doesn't give you the pattern to look at and just tells you numbers on the machine that layes the pattern
Actually it’s usually 10 minutes of practice.
Wait brad is motiv right why is he using storm
He isn't on staff with Motiv anymore.
streamline097 oh ok so hos storm now
He's not on motiv anymore
GO CHIEFS !!! Love that shirt B!
ITS BRAD AND KYLE NOT KYLE AND BRAD 😅
Back in the 70's they (ABC) instituted gutter to gutter! The talented bowlers adjusted....the others no so much! To make bowling fair again, and honest....go back to that and it will help take technology out of the game....Tech killed the game !
Shut up boomer
@@chaselmaojk Earl Anthony was one of the first guys to say what I said....Tech KILLED BOWLING! Pro bowlers now bowl for pocket change ! Don Carter (in the early '60's) was the FIRST PROFESSIONAL OF ANY SPORT TO SIGN A $1,000,000 CONTRACT (with the Budweiser NBL team! )The Tournament of Champions used to pay the winner more than golf paid the Masters winner! Now its a ratio of (golf) 20-1 ! When a 700 is routine in a house league....the game is broke! Jason Belmonte could never compete with the likes of Dick Weber, Don Carter, and a hundred others! Bowling is now not much more than a video game (which might be more difficult)!
Here's how.you can improve on sport sjots....DON'T THROW ON THEM!!!..AVOID AT ALL COSTS...unless.you're.a.hotshot of.course
Brad why do you always look like your in pain lol
U can't get more to the right....