It’s very interesting seeing these great reviews of slightly left field choices - keep them coming. I would like to see a head to head review of this bike against a Honda 750 Hornet. It sells for £7,300 so is actually cheaper (but very close on price) than the bike reviewed here and gets great reviews. I see that as it’s main rival, if it can see off the Hornet they’ve got a winner on their hands.👍
That tablet looks terrible and cheap. If they had mounted it in landscape mode it would have helped. Wonder how it will stand up to a wet cold winter here in the UK.
What is it about Fuel injection that the fueling is always an issue, is it smooth and linear or snatchy,??... Years ago l owned a couple of BMWs, had no issue with the carburation, Like Fi it needed to be adjusted and balanced. Same was true of my Guzzi 850 LeMan. that had two large Dell' Orto pumped carburettor's. Although the pumps would freeze up in cold weather making acceleration non existent, but had no fueling issues in normal running conditions..It may be more to do with modern Engines being 'Leaned out'...My first injected modern bike in 2014 was a VFR 800 it was 'snatchy' as hell from the get go! l remember thinking at the time WTFs going on here!.... I'm old enough to remember when all Motorcycles were 'Naked' and a fairing was an extra universal bolt on affair...
@@volt8684 Over here in Spain the fuel is at 5%.. Still a problem though. However l agree though its probably the emission controls that are mostly responsible. l don't remember Fueling being an issue back in Ye Olden Days! when we still used proper petrol and Carburettors..
Euro 5 + which is coming this year will be worse. Not sure if the UK can circumnavigate that after Brexit, but the rest of Europe the emissions are getting stupid.
There is a lot to like here. I would certainly give it a look, if I were in the market. One thing I have heard and I cannot confirm, is the warranty only covers parts and not , costs. Any chance, you ca.n firm this up? Enjoyed the vid.👍🏻
Give me an inline four with a 4 into 1 aftermarket exhaust any day. Love that sound. Ride safe Dave and keep the rubber side down. Cheers from the States.
Nice review Dave, you need to compare those KTM Moto's in those MC's to the tried and tested Kawasaki based and bored out 693cc engine in the CF Moto 700CL-X Adventure, approximately 100cc difference but I'm thinking that won't be snatchy? 😎
I had my eyes closed for 5 mins and thought Fred Dibnar had started bike reviewing😂. Great videos you do sir, very informative. Q, what gloves are you using?
Wow TBW! That’s the Advanced model with that massive touch screen tablet! I didn’t know you’d get those in the UK! Interesting 👌 Edit: I’m sure the TFT you have currently showing can be set to show a lot more of the engine settings. I would have chosen this model over the 8S only if it had Traction Control. The next generation does. To bad for me.
i have chosen this model and no regrets so far...2000km with it and no problems ... u can put TC and cornering ABS on this one also and very easy. in Romania i bought it for 7200 euro and 5 years warranty. i think it beat the GSX8S on every chapter even looks(subjective). reliablity wise i believe those 5 years are justified.
That looks like a VFM version of Aprilia's 660 range? Comfy ergos, similar electronic interventions, lighter in weight than most & an insanely great deal @ $7,500 BPS. Trust me, there's a pannier solution either available, or, just coming out. This thing will tour all day & rock out the canyons as well! If CFMOTO is going to make it, the current range is a pretty exciting look into value vs. Quality. A 4 year warranty answers most of my questions.
Thanks for the review although I’m very much on the fence regarding its price which is far from competitive in the real world. Both the Duke 790 and Honda Hornet 750 are available new for less money likewise the Suzuki GSX8 S.
I have the 8s and have 3200 miles so far and love it, I considered the nk and the Ktm 790 but there are no dealers close to me. In time I’d expect more dealers to stock Cfmoto as they are nocking out some good bikes for the price, and on that the nk can be found on auto trader for £5999. Which is £2000 saving over my 8s, that’s serious value for money.
Great review However I’m not a fan of this type of bike I’m more old school classic However this was a great test ride in my opinion due to the high visibility of the speedometer which gives you an honest idea of actual speed of the bike In most test rides the camera seems to be showing the bike as moving faster than actual speed So this ride put the camera and perspective of speed in sync for me I think it would be a good idea to show actual speed versus camera speed on most rides As I said this is not my kind of bike But this was one of the best test rides I ever seen due to my reason above Thanks again for the ride along Much appreciated Regards from Florida
A lot of comments that it is very close to other bikes pricing. In NZ I was going to get a KTM890,the 890 was speced the same as the CF Moto. The CF Moto was 40% cheaper. I now own a CF Moto MT Explore. It is a great bike.
Great review, however i'm not so sure it is really that competitive in price, but the 4 year warranty could be a game changer. Just not that portrait style iPad, i really don't see people paying £500 for it.
Agreed. Looks like a conditioner for the readiness of electric bikes which I reckon will be CF MOTO's next big move. I think the colab with KTM will be paid back in that, the Chinese having major facilities for battery manufacture.
Dave try the throttle reset on my channel, it was issued by CF moto in the US for the CF moto 800 it just resets the throttle not the software. Worked great here on the Voge 900 DSX with the BWM engine ✌🏻👍
I don't like the display but on a modern looking bike like this then maybe it's target market likes them and expects one? What l'd like a Chinese bike reviewer to find out is, how long will the manufacture guarantee parts supply for? I recall a small cc BMW GS clone maybe 10 years ago that sold a ton quickly, then the importer folded and they were valueless. If a Chinese bike appealed to me enough to want to buy one, that's the issue that's on my mind, am l up the creek wanting a replacement part in 10 years time. Good looking bike. 👍
Morning Dave, thanks for the review. With regard to the throttle response on the 800MT, you may be interested in watching a video on MJTech's YT channel for a potential home fix. All the best, Andy
Nice bike.had a pop to there afew wks ago disappointed with what theyve got 2hrs of my live lost but the ride to there n views were good.anyway just my view on place.look forward to the nxt one.👍
Not much love for the screen in the comments. However, I would argue this is a modern bike so wouldn't suit anologue style sweeping needles (as much as I like those). It is hard to adapt when things change to what we are used to seeing. One one hand it is neat and easily seen, on the other if it breaks you are stuffed. Progress? Maybe
I think it has a certain appeal but I absolutely hate the TFT screen. If they just put it in landscape format it would be a big improvement. Not sure about the rear either, it’s looks as thought it has been forgotten about. That said not my style so it doesn’t matter what I think, the adventure style looks a better package. “ Long live white bikes “
I like the performance, but the styling is fugly, and I'm not saying that because its Chinese! I think this type of styling looks like it's escaped from a 1970's sci fi show, but that's just me and it'll surely appeal to some. Great review. Thanks.
Evidence of hyper sonic crashing Chinese bike values on Autotrader, few months old 1000cc V2 superbike, only down £2000 in a few months, - wow, what value?
If thats the case i would go for the cheaper bike with a small TFT. Looks like an Amazon basics range tablet. The large tablet would have looked better in portrat mode
When you were riding this bike it looked fast and competent, but those looks. I am of your generation so I am more of a traditionalist with regards to motorcycle aesthetics. I do like the looks of the MT800 that you have, but this one just has too much gourdy shaped plastics on it, just not my cup of tea. Your subscriptions are doing quite well mate, you'll be at 10,000 before you know it and from a fellow Yorkshireman, al sithee....
7:13 arguably the fueling should be spot on and the rider shouldn't have to adapt to the manufacturer's shortcomings on the bikes fueling, it's sloppy work in my opinion 😕 my son's honda 900 hornet which is 2002 model and one of the first gen fuel injection runs smooth, so what's the excuse with these brand new 2024 ones 🤷🏻♂️
@@ThePresidentofMars Mmm possibly, but very often they use Delphi or Bosch injection units so it's not necessarily about the country of origin but how the manufacturer used and sets up the injector system on their bikes if you get my point 👌🏻
15:20 but the bike shouldn't need to be 'adapted' because it should be right from the start surely, why should the rider have to adapt to poor setup, just my opinion
For some reason CF moto refuse to set up dealerships, it’s the same here in Spain. They have sold models here but again through strange places like motorcycle apparel shops. The bikes look good but are priced similar to existing tested brands. The CF moto 800 explore here in Spain is 12000 euro that competes with both the Vstrom 650 and new 800 as well as a host of other bikes. It’s interesting that they have gone in at high prices. I guess this is because CF moto own KTM or at least 51% of the company. Maybe because KTM have no say on opposition that’s the reason. It’s interesting that also Moto GB import Voge etc. Voge here in Spain and all of mainland Europe have a huge main dealer network, with over 20 models and over 5 years of sales. It’s strange that CF moto is the same in the UK as here, sold by franchises and at a high price. They are selling but nothing like the European sales of say the 900 DSX Voge, here currently 9000 pre booked road tests 1 batch to Spain and Portugal sold out in Jan. Second batch Arriving September sold out. No more pre orders in main land Europe until 2025 now. I like the CF moto 800mt series it has just over priced its self here in Mainland Europe
Interesting to see the Continental comparison and the pricing parity is a fair point though I suspect it stands mainly on an assumption that the Japanese mainstream competition is by definition of a higher order
@@thebingleywheeler you're possibly right, breaking the perception of Chinese products being inferior certainly adds to the predudice. Just shows how fickle the consumer can be, when they think they are buying a BMW 900 GSA for half price re the DSX 900 they buy it in droves, even although it's not a BMW, no more than the CF Moto 800 is a KTM. That said both the CF Moto and DSX are fantastic machines. 🤔
That screen is awful, I’d choose the standard model. Also standard can be had for £6k new reflecting the brand value of these bikes. Decent spec tho but is the service schedule every 6 months / 3000 miles like others?? If so and given depreciation I’m not sure it’s good value at all🤔
Great review, CFMOTO need to be taken seriously, but they need more dealerships to make them viable for me. This bike is not for me the styling is not to my taste. I don't like the rear end treatment, and that tablet just slapped on the handlebars in portrait orientation.
@@thebingleywheeler seems he has been watching the dirty garage channel - oh no, there are a few reports of early failing/worn camshafts out of about 100k or more ? models sold.....
just needs traditional clocks - Not everything is progress - I worry about the longevity of these tablet type instrument bundles - Not just moaning at CF Moto as bike looks good, but most manufacturers seem to be going down this ridiculous tablet route
Thank You ! Good engine, good suspensions, good brakes (I imagine) and... that's all folks! I could'nt stand the view from the seat (nor from the café terrasse 😉🤣). But each and every bike is interesting for me, and there are always people, for example very young geeks in chinese giant towns, to like the "concept". Not shure that the "design" of the tft doesn't come from... North Korea 🧐 But everything is great : summer is comming 🌦🌥🌤☀
My honest opinion is that to me it's just trying too hard to be trendy. Far to much unwanted tek, an absolutely hideous screen what's wrong with a twin clock setup, and a rear end that just looks horrible. We'll priced yes but otherwise no where near as good as your touring version.
Hi Dave … Just for your info I’ve just checked my subscription again following your prompt and I’m sure you’re not surprised to know I'd been un-subscribed. However, this is the 3rd time in 4 or 5 weeks so really urge people to check and re-check. Regards Paul
A face for radio, thats the bike not you wheeler! From your review it sounds a competent bike but those looks arent great and it seems a tad expensive.
Why does every bike have to be laden with tech? We all know none of it will be repairable in 20 years. Good luck getting a replacement for a faulty TFT in 2044.
The base model looks better and is cheaper. Normal fatbars and a smaller screen the right way around. This TFT looks ludicrous. The NK looks a lot better than the KTM and is much better value. Nick
Doesn’t appeal to me in the slightest ,the whole thing looks grotesque & tacky . The TFT screen looks like some budget computer tablet has been just slapped onto the handlebars . The rear end looks like it’s been rammed & what’s left of the mudguard botched back on . Keyless & gimmicky electronics is also a big no no for me . For the same money they could of built a proper motorcycle . This is just another example of allowing gamer & IT nerds , to run amok in their design departments . I don’t want or require any kind of slipper ,blipper , quick shifter , fly by wire ,riding modes , or blue tooth connectivity nerdy crap . I don’t care how fast it goes as when I go out on my bikes ,I am going out for a ride on public roads not a race track . They would have to pay me to take this 800 NK off their hands & give it garage room . So for me it’s a no big cigar award as far as this bike goes , but the usual thumbs up for your efforts & the Chanel Dave 👍
I do like the bike, but its not really that cheap. The 790 duke from ktm can be purchased for around the same price. So i guess it comes down to which one you prefer. Does seem like a good package overall but i fear that as the hornet and gsx are not much dearer most people will pick them. Have to agree in the tft the standard model has a mich icer tft but does not come with the quick shifter
Hi bingley wheeler, sorry to say I think this a very ugly bike don't like the tft and the head light is not very good looking and I don't like the rear hugger idont like and I don't like the key less on it and I like my triumph street tripel rs 765 and is afar better bike looking and also kawersaki z 800 is Also a better bike and I don't like Ktm and I think they are unreliable and suffer from electric problem so I would not have one .these bikes may go good now new but like ktm suffer electric problems latter done the line and the price may be good now what will they be like as they get oldder
One of the reasons I ride is to detach from tech, not sure I’d want to have that tablet in my view. Give me an analogue dial any day!
All us mature bikers want our twin dials back digital or cable
Life is too complicated nowadays, when I ride I want to escape that and just want basics with a relaxed ride.
Morning Dave , Thank you yet again for another brilliant review on this bike , take care & ride safe
Thank you Steve 🙏
It’s very interesting seeing these great reviews of slightly left field choices - keep them coming. I would like to see a head to head review of this bike against a Honda 750 Hornet. It sells for £7,300 so is actually cheaper (but very close on price) than the bike reviewed here and gets great reviews. I see that as it’s main rival, if it can see off the Hornet they’ve got a winner on their hands.👍
soon be up to 10k Dave well done! with more subscribers comes more bikes to test.
Cheers Graeme 😊👍🏻
CF Moto are banging out some decent bikes and it appears they have some interesting ones in the pipeline. Thank you for the review.
looking forward to seeing a CF 900 triple 👀
I would love to get over to Applewood but I’m over here in Texas! Enjoy your vids.
Good review Dave,.. however I think for me the Suzuki GSX 8S has my vote for the all round package at this price point. Dave
Let’s hope they are reliable and have parts that last the test of time because they seem a good machine at a decent price
I would buy one but they would need to get rid of that hideous tablet on the handle bar it does absolutely nothing for me
That tablet looks terrible and cheap. If they had mounted it in landscape mode it would have helped. Wonder how it will stand up to a wet cold winter here in the UK.
As it says in the video, it's optional, not standard
@@pookiewookie7679that means deepsouthNZ will be buying one.
He is road testing the bike with the tablet fitted, the other option is not shown or tested.
Yep agree. Even if it were turned 90°it would be better
What is it about Fuel injection that the fueling is always an issue, is it smooth and linear or snatchy,??... Years ago l owned a couple of BMWs, had no issue with the carburation, Like Fi it needed to be adjusted and balanced. Same was true of my Guzzi 850 LeMan. that had two large Dell' Orto pumped carburettor's. Although the pumps would freeze up in cold weather making acceleration non existent, but had no fueling issues in normal running conditions..It may be more to do with modern Engines being 'Leaned out'...My first injected modern bike in 2014 was a VFR 800 it was 'snatchy' as hell from the get go! l remember thinking at the time WTFs going on here!.... I'm old enough to remember when all Motorcycles were 'Naked' and a fairing was an extra universal bolt on affair...
It's the electronic throttle as there's no cable
It’s the emissions. The compression and metering of the fuel which will fail with E10 causes cars and bikes to run poorly
I thought ride by wire was supposed to be better 🤔@@mloclam6917
@@volt8684 Over here in Spain the fuel is at 5%.. Still a problem though. However l agree though its probably the emission controls that are mostly responsible. l don't remember Fueling being an issue back in Ye Olden Days! when we still used proper petrol and Carburettors..
Euro 5 + which is coming this year will be worse. Not sure if the UK can circumnavigate that after Brexit, but the rest of Europe the emissions are getting stupid.
There is a lot to like here. I would certainly give it a look, if I were in the market. One thing I have heard and I cannot confirm, is the warranty only covers parts and not , costs. Any chance, you ca.n firm this up? Enjoyed the vid.👍🏻
Give me an inline four with a 4 into 1 aftermarket exhaust any day. Love that sound. Ride safe Dave and keep the rubber side down. Cheers from the States.
Do these suffer the cam wear like the ktms?
Do you work for Appleyards? If not you need to ask them for a retainer as you must be one of their main promoters...
No I don’t work for them but have been in partnership with them for quite some time….no knowledge of “Gillybikes”
Nice review Dave, you need to compare those KTM Moto's in those MC's to the tried and tested Kawasaki based and bored out 693cc engine in the CF Moto 700CL-X Adventure, approximately 100cc difference but I'm thinking that won't be snatchy? 😎
I had my eyes closed for 5 mins and thought Fred Dibnar had started bike reviewing😂. Great videos you do sir, very informative. Q, what gloves are you using?
Wow TBW! That’s the Advanced model with that massive touch screen tablet! I didn’t know you’d get those in the UK! Interesting 👌
Edit: I’m sure the TFT you have currently showing can be set to show a lot more of the engine settings.
I would have chosen this model over the 8S only if it had Traction Control. The next generation does. To bad for me.
i have chosen this model and no regrets so far...2000km with it and no problems ... u can put TC and cornering ABS on this one also and very easy. in Romania i bought it for 7200 euro and 5 years warranty. i think it beat the GSX8S on every chapter even looks(subjective). reliablity wise i believe those 5 years are justified.
That looks like a VFM version of Aprilia's 660 range? Comfy ergos, similar electronic interventions, lighter in weight than most & an insanely great deal @ $7,500 BPS. Trust me, there's a pannier solution either available, or, just coming out. This thing will tour all day & rock out the canyons as well! If CFMOTO is going to make it, the current range is a pretty exciting look into value vs. Quality. A 4 year warranty answers most of my questions.
14:06 only problem with touch screens is that they don't play well when wet in my experience 🤔
Thanks for the review although I’m very much on the fence regarding its price which is far from competitive in the real world. Both the Duke 790 and Honda Hornet 750 are available new for less money likewise the Suzuki GSX8 S.
I have the 8s and have 3200 miles so far and love it, I considered the nk and the Ktm 790 but there are no dealers close to me. In time I’d expect more dealers to stock Cfmoto as they are nocking out some good bikes for the price, and on that the nk can be found on auto trader for £5999. Which is £2000 saving over my 8s, that’s serious value for money.
Great review
However I’m not a fan of this type of bike I’m more old school classic
However this was a great test ride in my opinion due to the high visibility of the speedometer which gives you an honest idea of actual speed of the bike
In most test rides the camera seems to be showing the bike as moving faster than actual speed
So this ride put the camera and perspective of speed in sync for me
I think it would be a good idea to show actual speed versus camera speed on most rides
As I said this is not my kind of bike
But this was one of the best test rides I ever seen due to my reason above
Thanks again for the ride along
Much appreciated
Regards from Florida
A lot of comments that it is very close to other bikes pricing. In NZ I was going to get a KTM890,the 890 was speced the same as the CF Moto. The CF Moto was 40% cheaper. I now own a CF Moto MT Explore. It is a great bike.
Great review, however i'm not so sure it is really that competitive in price, but the 4 year warranty could be a game changer. Just not that portrait style iPad, i really don't see people paying £500 for it.
Can't say I'm a fan of the tft screen just looks a bit weird.
Agreed. Looks like a conditioner for the readiness of electric bikes which I reckon will be CF MOTO's next big move. I think the colab with KTM will be paid back in that, the Chinese having major facilities for battery manufacture.
Not one I'd look back at, having got off it
Would like to try one to compare it to my ktm 790 duke. I know it as the same engine and many other components.Sounds exactly like my bike.
Dave try the throttle reset on my channel, it was issued by CF moto in the US for the CF moto 800 it just resets the throttle not the software. Worked great here on the Voge 900 DSX with the BWM engine ✌🏻👍
Cheers buddy will do
I don't like the display but on a modern looking bike like this then maybe it's target market likes them and expects one? What l'd like a Chinese bike reviewer to find out is, how long will the manufacture guarantee parts supply for? I recall a small cc BMW GS clone maybe 10 years ago that sold a ton quickly, then the importer folded and they were valueless. If a Chinese bike appealed to me enough to want to buy one, that's the issue that's on my mind, am l up the creek wanting a replacement part in 10 years time. Good looking bike. 👍
It’s a 4 year warranty and both CF Moto and KTM would have to fold for it to become invalid
Morning Dave, thanks for the review. With regard to the throttle response on the 800MT, you may be interested in watching a video on MJTech's YT channel for a potential home fix.
All the best, Andy
Thank you Andy
Nice bike.had a pop to there afew wks ago disappointed with what theyve got 2hrs of my live lost but the ride to there n views were good.anyway just my view on place.look forward to the nxt one.👍
Not much love for the screen in the comments. However, I would argue this is a modern bike so wouldn't suit anologue style sweeping needles (as much as I like those). It is hard to adapt when things change to what we are used to seeing. One one hand it is neat and easily seen, on the other if it breaks you are stuffed. Progress? Maybe
Give me 110hp and and would buy one tomorrow. Nice video
I think it has a certain appeal but I absolutely hate the TFT screen. If they just put it in landscape format it would be a big improvement. Not sure about the rear either, it’s looks as thought it has been forgotten about. That said not my style so it doesn’t matter what I think, the adventure style looks a better package. “ Long live white bikes “
Aye don’t know what they’d been smoking when the screen went portrait! 😂
I like the performance, but the styling is fugly, and I'm not saying that because its Chinese! I think this type of styling looks like it's escaped from a 1970's sci fi show, but that's just me and it'll surely appeal to some. Great review. Thanks.
Evidence of hyper sonic crashing Chinese bike values on Autotrader, few months old 1000cc V2 superbike, only down £2000 in a few months, - wow, what value?
If thats the case i would go for the cheaper bike with a small TFT. Looks like an Amazon basics range tablet. The large tablet would have looked better in portrat mode
I'd have an 8S instead, the NK needs to be much cheaper for people to even consider it IMO.
Especially cos it chinese
You can get the standard model cheaper, this version has better suspension than the 8s
This does look good - sharper than a 750 hornet or the suzi 800 (or the MT7) or any other at this price I can't think of. Certainly vs the ktm
That is value for money for sure
How can you even say that after one week of ownership?
When you were riding this bike it looked fast and competent, but those looks. I am of your generation so I am more of a traditionalist with regards to motorcycle aesthetics. I do like the looks of the MT800 that you have, but this one just has too much gourdy shaped plastics on it, just not my cup of tea.
Your subscriptions are doing quite well mate, you'll be at 10,000 before you know it and from a fellow Yorkshireman, al sithee....
has it the same engine like the 800mt
Yes
7:13 arguably the fueling should be spot on and the rider shouldn't have to adapt to the manufacturer's shortcomings on the bikes fueling, it's sloppy work in my opinion 😕 my son's honda 900 hornet which is 2002 model and one of the first gen fuel injection runs smooth, so what's the excuse with these brand new 2024 ones 🤷🏻♂️
Its chinese
@@ThePresidentofMars Mmm possibly, but very often they use Delphi or Bosch injection units so it's not necessarily about the country of origin but how the manufacturer used and sets up the injector system on their bikes if you get my point 👌🏻
Euro 5
15:20 but the bike shouldn't need to be 'adapted' because it should be right from the start surely, why should the rider have to adapt to poor setup, just my opinion
For some reason CF moto refuse to set up dealerships, it’s the same here in Spain. They have sold models here but again through strange places like motorcycle apparel shops. The bikes look good but are priced similar to existing tested brands. The CF moto 800 explore here in Spain is 12000 euro that competes with both the Vstrom 650 and new 800 as well as a host of other bikes. It’s interesting that they have gone in at high prices. I guess this is because CF moto own KTM or at least 51% of the company. Maybe because KTM have no say on opposition that’s the reason. It’s interesting that also Moto GB import Voge etc. Voge here in Spain and all of mainland Europe have a huge main dealer network, with over 20 models and over 5 years of sales. It’s strange that CF moto is the same in the UK as here, sold by franchises and at a high price. They are selling but nothing like the European sales of say the 900 DSX Voge, here currently 9000 pre booked road tests 1 batch to Spain and Portugal sold out in Jan. Second batch Arriving September sold out. No more pre orders in main land Europe until 2025 now. I like the CF moto 800mt series it has just over priced its self here in Mainland Europe
Interesting to see the Continental comparison and the pricing parity is a fair point though I suspect it stands mainly on an assumption that the Japanese mainstream competition is by definition of a higher order
@@thebingleywheeler you're possibly right, breaking the perception of Chinese products being inferior certainly adds to the predudice. Just shows how fickle the consumer can be, when they think they are buying a BMW 900 GSA for half price re the DSX 900 they buy it in droves, even although it's not a BMW, no more than the CF Moto 800 is a KTM. That said both the CF Moto and DSX are fantastic machines. 🤔
That screen is awful, I’d choose the standard model. Also standard can be had for £6k new reflecting the brand value of these bikes. Decent spec tho but is the service schedule every 6 months / 3000 miles like others?? If so and given depreciation I’m not sure it’s good value at all🤔
Great review, CFMOTO need to be taken seriously, but they need more dealerships to make them viable for me. This bike is not for me the styling is not to my taste. I don't like the rear end treatment, and that tablet just slapped on the handlebars in portrait orientation.
KTM camshafts are made of cheese.
Either that or they are suffering from oil starvation.
The engine this bike is based on is unreliable.
Evidence?
@@thebingleywheeler I can’t link the evidence.
Simply Google KTM (790) cam wear and click images.
@@thebingleywheeler I can’t link the evidence.
Just Google ‘KTM camshaft wear’ and click images.
@@thebingleywheeler seems he has been watching the dirty garage channel - oh no, there are a few reports of early failing/worn camshafts out of about 100k or more ? models sold.....
@@ogasi1798It’s all over the KTM forums. 790 & 890 actually.
Soft cams or oil flow design fault?
just needs traditional clocks - Not everything is progress - I worry about the longevity of these tablet type instrument bundles - Not just moaning at CF Moto as bike looks good, but most manufacturers seem to be going down this ridiculous tablet route
Thank You ! Good engine, good suspensions, good brakes (I imagine) and... that's all folks! I could'nt stand the view from the seat (nor from the café terrasse 😉🤣). But each and every bike is interesting for me, and there are always people, for example very young geeks in chinese giant towns, to like the "concept". Not shure that the "design" of the tft doesn't come from... North Korea 🧐 But everything is great : summer is comming 🌦🌥🌤☀
sharp and gorgeous lines too
I like it . And the t7 speedo. Aplomb 🎉
Good value? But aesthetics😢
My honest opinion is that to me it's just trying too hard to be trendy. Far to much unwanted tek, an absolutely hideous screen what's wrong with a twin clock setup, and a rear end that just looks horrible. We'll priced yes but otherwise no where near as good as your touring version.
821 monster
Hi Dave … Just for your info I’ve just checked my subscription again following your prompt and I’m sure you’re not surprised to know I'd been un-subscribed. However, this is the 3rd time in 4 or 5 weeks so really urge people to check and re-check.
Regards
Paul
Cheers Paul
A face for radio, thats the bike not you wheeler!
From your review it sounds a competent bike but those looks arent great and it seems a tad expensive.
No dealers, keep yer fingers crossed
The whole of the Moto gb group and all KTM dealers…..no dealers?
@@thebingleywheeler lol, try and get a ktm dealer to be interested
Why does every bike have to be laden with tech? We all know none of it will be repairable in 20 years. Good luck getting a replacement for a faulty TFT in 2044.
20 years? I’ll be long gone 😂
The price is too close to quality Japanese opposition, hornet, 8s, MT, so I'd be buying Japanese.
Autotrader has the 8s for £6495 and its MCN's bike of the year.
Any motorcycle that is MCN bike of the year it's the kiss 💋 of death ☠️💀. Kiss it good by.
The base model looks better and is cheaper. Normal fatbars and a smaller screen the right way around. This TFT looks ludicrous. The NK looks a lot better than the KTM and is much better value. Nick
Doesn’t appeal to me in the slightest ,the whole thing looks grotesque & tacky . The TFT screen looks like some budget computer tablet has been just slapped onto the handlebars . The rear end looks like it’s been rammed & what’s left of the mudguard botched back on . Keyless & gimmicky electronics is also a big no no for me . For the same money they could of built a proper motorcycle . This is just another example of allowing gamer & IT nerds , to run amok in their design departments . I don’t want or require any kind of slipper ,blipper , quick shifter , fly by wire ,riding modes , or blue tooth connectivity nerdy crap . I don’t care how fast it goes as when I go out on my bikes ,I am going out for a ride on public roads not a race track . They would have to pay me to take this 800 NK off their hands & give it garage room . So for me it’s a no big cigar award as far as this bike goes , but the usual thumbs up for your efforts & the Chanel Dave 👍
I do like the bike, but its not really that cheap. The 790 duke from ktm can be purchased for around the same price.
So i guess it comes down to which one you prefer.
Does seem like a good package overall but i fear that as the hornet and gsx are not much dearer most people will pick them.
Have to agree in the tft the standard model has a mich icer tft but does not come with the quick shifter
58mph then.....
Cfmoto make engines for ktm not the other way around 😂
KTM developed the engine and design the bikes
NK ? NaKed perhaps? 🤣
The new Honda hornet might be a close competitor........but the fact you forgot the hornet shows how forgettable a bike it is.....
The Chinese are not coming, they're already hete with an array of very impressive machinery. Good luck to them. Stay safe on yours Dave.
Thank you 😎👍🏻
Hi bingley wheeler, sorry to say I think this a very ugly bike don't like the tft and the head light is not very good looking and I don't like the rear hugger idont like and I don't like the key less on it and I like my triumph street tripel rs 765 and is afar better bike looking and also kawersaki z 800 is Also a better bike and I don't like Ktm and I think they are unreliable and suffer from electric problem so I would not have one .these bikes may go good now new but like ktm suffer electric problems latter done the line and the price may be good now what will they be like as they get oldder