I was really happy to hear your comments about these three 3D printers. At my work, we are using the Raise Pro 2 and we are happy with it. It's true that Ideamaker slicer is very complete but a little bit complicated for a beginner. But now after six months of using and after some mistakes, we realize that we have done the right choice. The slicer preview is really good and if you are patient you can detect your mistake before launching your part. Thank you for this very good comparative. Good video and bravo for your English. Daniel (from Brittany in France)
Having used both the M300 Dual and Rasie3D Pro2 extensively, the Raise comes out the best. M300 Dual has built in reliability issues. - It occasionally (every 5 to 30 hours) offsets the layers causing the print to fail. It also has a built in limitation on layer height with 0.14 as the minimum, which really is not acceptable in a supposedly high end printer. The Raise has become our preferred workhorse. Higher print-quality, very robust, more versatile, more adjustable.
well what a fantastic overview of 3 machines ive been wondering about! for my application the Zortrax has now been put in my basket. thanks guys massive massive help!!
Great review. I think they all need covers for a like for like comparison, I would not dream of printing antthing other than PLA without one? Really good review overall.
Great review .. looks like Raised 3D is the winner overall ... Looking at the costs those printer cost equally to a hatchback car ... I mean comparing to a car this printers should cost 100 to 200 bugs only . I mean a car has so many parts assembled together and much complicated ... comparing to these 3d printers which are so simple ... hope soon the prices will be more realistic ... jus my thought
Thank you very much for this very thorough comparison of these “prosumer” models! After watching it, however, I have to wonder why it appears there is a “waste tower” in the Raise3D print? Since this is a dual extruder machine and only 2 materials are being used, shouldn’t that eliminate the need for the waste? I did not see waste towers on the Ultimaker and Zortrax prints, but maybe I missed them?
Excellent review. Thx. I do see date: 02/2000, so hoping you have more recent reviews of these printers, their successors, or others. I will go check now...
BTW, the Raise 3D seems to be the "winner", as least for me needs, and from what I can tell from the review. I'm not a fan of completely closed/proprietary systems, so Zortrax is not appealing. And, though Ultimate is known for quality, it is perhaps overpriced, and uses Cura, which is OK, but certainly not as good as Ideal Maker.
What they Don't say about the ultimaker S5: It's a push extruder, making it highly prone to filament jams and nasty prints with flexible filament. It's fan assembly is held on by small magnets, if the print head snags during a toolpath, the fan assembly can open up allowing the extruders to fill it with material. If this is not monitored it can destroy the print head, there are no sensors to prevent this.
Seems like the standard warranty for the Ultimaker is far superior to the standard, limited warranty offered by Raise3D. Does anyone have experience with problems and the company response to fix the problem?
Honestly, what will you ever need the warranty for? You can replace almost anything on that printer yourself. very easy to take apart with basic house tools. They sell all the required replacement parts on their website.
@@AlTheEngineer But it's not on the box! Haha a little Tommy Boy humor. I pulled the trigger on a Pro2 a couple of weeks ago and could not be happier. From packaging to first print everything was absolutely perfect. Coming from a Stratasys background I was worried that I would be let down, but I was wrong. For anyone on the fence about the Pro2 I would highly recommend it. Great printer.
Zortrax -and another one. spools at the back. Is noone ever considering that 3d printers may run in a rack or some sort of more "let's not move theprinters to load filament" style of arrangemeent?
Daniel, could you share with us what was you driving factor to choose over another? Since you already have experience with Raise 3D would the new E series printer be a good option as well?
Why do you keep talking about VAT at every price? Wouldn't it be easier to say at the beginning or end of the video that all prices are without VAT? If a company in the EU buys the given product, it still does not pay VAT..
Yes that is correct. The system of the leveling is not a long lasting one. And when the nozzle hits the bed because of these problems, the printer additionally can damage the nozzle... So always keep a spare build plate nearby the printer...
Thanks for putting so much effort into a comprehensive review! Pro 2 for me!
I was really happy to hear your comments about these three 3D printers.
At my work, we are using the Raise Pro 2 and we are happy with it. It's true that Ideamaker slicer is very complete but a little bit complicated for a beginner.
But now after six months of using and after some mistakes, we realize that we have done the right choice.
The slicer preview is really good and if you are patient you can detect your mistake before launching your part.
Thank you for this very good comparative. Good video and bravo for your English.
Daniel (from Brittany in France)
@tommy aronson what printer do you recommend?
@tommy aronson 8 printers that can’t print Nylon X or other Engineering grade materials without $$ and mods.
Just bought a Raise3D Pro2, was somewhat relieved to find your results favorable. Thanks for the video
Finally a review you can use to help make a purchase decision on! Amazing.
WOW great review of all machines, thank you!
Having used both the M300 Dual and Rasie3D Pro2 extensively, the Raise comes out the best. M300 Dual has built in reliability issues. - It occasionally (every 5 to 30 hours) offsets the layers causing the print to fail. It also has a built in limitation on layer height with 0.14 as the minimum, which really is not acceptable in a supposedly high end printer.
The Raise has become our preferred workhorse. Higher print-quality, very robust, more versatile, more adjustable.
well what a fantastic overview of 3 machines ive been wondering about! for my application the Zortrax has now been put in my basket. thanks guys massive massive help!!
Great review. I think they all need covers for a like for like comparison, I would not dream of printing antthing other than PLA without one? Really good review overall.
Next comparison with BCN3D Sigma or Sigmax =)
Thank you for your useful and complete comparison; Very nice review..!
Zortrax print quality looks the best to me
From my point of view it's the worst of the three... see the comparaison results around 26:00.
Great review .. looks like Raised 3D is the winner overall ... Looking at the costs those printer cost equally to a hatchback car ... I mean comparing to a car this printers should cost 100 to 200 bugs only . I mean a car has so many parts assembled together and much complicated ... comparing to these 3d printers which are so simple ... hope soon the prices will be more realistic ... jus my thought
Economies of scale and large demand for cars is large reason why cars can be much cheaper. I feel you tho.
Thank you very much for this very thorough comparison of these “prosumer” models! After watching it, however, I have to wonder why it appears there is a “waste tower” in the Raise3D print? Since this is a dual extruder machine and only 2 materials are being used, shouldn’t that eliminate the need for the waste? I did not see waste towers on the Ultimaker and Zortrax prints, but maybe I missed them?
Yeah. Just watching it firs time and first time they show a print on the Zortrax there IS A TOWER AND IT IS MENTIONED. So, false statement.
Great video, thank you. Raise3D pro2 FTW
thank you for the in depth review !
Absolutely great review/video
Excellent review. Thx. I do see date: 02/2000, so hoping you have more recent reviews of these printers, their successors, or others. I will go check now...
BTW, the Raise 3D seems to be the "winner", as least for me needs, and from what I can tell from the review. I'm not a fan of completely closed/proprietary systems, so Zortrax is not appealing. And, though Ultimate is known for quality, it is perhaps overpriced, and uses Cura, which is OK, but certainly not as good as Ideal Maker.
Really good review, thank you!
Sehr guter Vergleich, was für ein Wasserlösliches Material habt ihr für PETG verwendet?
Grüße
What they Don't say about the ultimaker S5: It's a push extruder, making it highly prone to filament jams and nasty prints with flexible filament. It's fan assembly is held on by small magnets, if the print head snags during a toolpath, the fan assembly can open up allowing the extruders to fill it with material. If this is not monitored it can destroy the print head, there are no sensors to prevent this.
That was excellent! Thank you!
Great review. Thanks!
Will I be right to say these are the best 3D printer manufacturers in the world right now?
Hi, great review, in the industrial or prototyping field, which do you think is the best?
thank you
I hope you used the OEM slicer for each.
Great review, though I would suggest not using white or gray plastics for reviews because it's hard to see details. Blue and black ones are better
Great Coverage, Raise3d seems to be the best! Ultimate make a little disappointing for $6000
What about Flashforge Guider 2s
Yes, this is french accent :)
Seems like the standard warranty for the Ultimaker is far superior to the standard, limited warranty offered by Raise3D. Does anyone have experience with problems and the company response to fix the problem?
Honestly, what will you ever need the warranty for? You can replace almost anything on that printer yourself. very easy to take apart with basic house tools. They sell all the required replacement parts on their website.
@@AlTheEngineer But it's not on the box! Haha a little Tommy Boy humor. I pulled the trigger on a Pro2 a couple of weeks ago and could not be happier. From packaging to first print everything was absolutely perfect. Coming from a Stratasys background I was worried that I would be let down, but I was wrong. For anyone on the fence about the Pro2 I would highly recommend it. Great printer.
No resume upon a power failure feature?
Solid Review.
Zortrax -and another one. spools at the back. Is noone ever considering that 3d printers may run in a rack or some sort of more "let's not move theprinters to load filament" style of arrangemeent?
We just bought another printer, Ultimaker S5 with Pack Air Manager et Material Station, and we will do a comparison by ourself
Write you soon...
Daniel, could you share with us what was you driving factor to choose over another? Since you already have experience with Raise 3D would the new E series printer be a good option as well?
The Ultimaker S5 seems like a rip off compared to the other 2 to be honest.
Why all the hate for Ultimaker?
@@mactastic144 not hate, but just look at what you get for the money ... its tough to justify when compared to the competition!
@@mactastic144 its like Apple, way to expensive for the actual product you get.
But it works, works and works.
Also the spareparts are EXPENSIVE
@@mactastic144 I don't think its the hate of the machine but the exorbitant price for addons compared to the other machines.
Why do you keep talking about VAT at every price? Wouldn't it be easier to say at the beginning or end of the video that all prices are without VAT? If a company in the EU buys the given product, it still does not pay VAT..
Zortrex sucks I’m sorry bed hell to level if it gets scratched
Yes that is correct. The system of the leveling is not a long lasting one. And when the nozzle hits the bed because of these problems, the printer additionally can damage the nozzle... So always keep a spare build plate nearby the printer...
my goodness this guy is awful . My brain just want to Spit everything back out.
Whats the problem? I found it a great video.