Can this MODIFIED mid-drive Bafang EBIKE climb this REALLY BIG HILL??
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- Опубликовано: 26 дек 2024
- Having another crack at beating that damn hill climb!
Hill climbing my 2500w Andy kirby Vapour bike!
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Got to be one of the funniest E bike videos. Got to give this guy credit for trying, God bless.
Bro, I can pedal up that without any throttle on my standard 1500W M620, And I live in Wales, I know steep. If you choose your gear and pedal along with the throttle you'll get up that with more control and actually get to the top with out putting a foot down. Rather than trying to monkey it up like a motorcross bike.
100% Correct . I was getting ready to say something like " try a very low gear and pedal along wth the motor". You said it best. I hate to say it but this just looked stupid starting a mile back ...I saw right away that was never going to work. It looked as though he put very little thought into this plan.
excately
I live in wales and here hills and mountains are fucking so steep 🤣
I can pedal up without a electric
the other side of Cwmcarn bike track is just a mile up hill from me and it definitely steeper than this on the way up... and i can ride it on a standard bike - this guy is a shite salesman for bikes
Dude, first you have to learn how to ride a bike...
Would you like to come teach me on my next video and show me how to ride this hill better, im always down for learning
@@DudeStuff she is being a Karen. Well a Karol
@@DudeStuff lol....I think you did great. You went on the downhill section but going up hill correct? that looked pretty steep. I just got into ebiking, previously i was doing single tracks without the motor, but now i converted my bike and having more fun with it. Keep up the content.
#nuffiesonebikes
@@LOL9622 yeah this is downhill normally nobody goes up
Agree. First you have to learn and second how to use the gears and pedals and timing most important avoid the same uneven tracks
He seems have no experience in mountain biking. Hilarious.
Bro this is what legends are made of do it at any cost awesome vid I would ride with you all day 😂😂😂😂
I think the problem is with the driver 😂
This guy is special
This is a dangerously steep hill
As in special special ? 😂
I can't help but die laughing😂😂😂 everytime it showed you coming in from 4 miles out!!!! ❣️👍👍
Maybe if he started 12 miles back, he could get the needed momentum! 😂
Not quite. Go that far back you might not have enough charge left to sustain max speed even before hitting the hill. Voltage drops with state of charge.
@@uncrunch398 I think you missed the joke😅
Hi mate got a great tip. Change gear as the motor dies, works every time.
Nothing wrong with the motor. More than enough power. Guy just can't ride 😂
Rude child
@@rewind9536bikes have pedals
@@rewind9536thats the truth though, i have climbed similar things with my less than half as much torque yamaha haibike. you dont use momentum like a dirtbike. you use a low gear and ease it into the climb.
We were able to climb a 60 Degree fireroad with lots of loose sand using 100% Throttle on our 100 lbs Cafe Racer with 26x4" Tires, 44T Crankwheel and 50T Rear Cog. The Ultra Motor is 100% Stock 1500W @ 30 Amps using stock 48V17.5AH Samsung Battery. The Drivetrain/Good Tires will turn that Ultra (or BBSHD) into a whole other beast with the right drivetrain setup...
We are currently in process of testing a 150 lbs Enduro Ebike with BBSHD in both 1.5kw as well as BBSHD in 3.5kw version with the same exact drivetrain setup (28T crankwheel with 50T rear cog). The 150 lbs Ebike has tendency to do a front wheelie (even with stock BBSHD). That drivetrain on the BBSHD puts even our Ultra Motor to shame. We are running out of places to climb using 100% Throttle all the way.
Ground Speed might up 10MPH on the BBSHD and 12MPH on the Ultra. But on a 50-60 Degree Hill Climb, we are averaging 5-6 MPH pace using 100% Throttle.
And for whatever the reason, the MINIMUM rear tire that you need on the Ultra Bike is 4" or wider. A 2.8-3" tires just doesn't have the traction to stick to the trail and handle the full torque of the Bafang Motor. 120 lb/ft is more Torque than any gas powered motorcycle (including off road dirt bikes) except a 250MPH Kawasaki Ninja with 300+ HP. But the Ultra/BBSHD only has 2 HP! :D
watch?v=AYl_G5oIogg or RUclips Search: 60 Degree Bafang Ultra Cafe Racer
props for keepin it real and sending it! that's definitely a dirt bike hill, but this was for science!
I got a Bafang BBSO2 stock 44T. It started to overheat going up a long hill cog 11/44, so I swapped it for a 38T. It seems much better without ghost-pedaling. Would a 28T make a better choice, given that our roads are hilly?
I think it's a steady constant peddle power and motor assist with balance that your looking for rather than a run up and use momentum
Hes to lazy to peddle mate.
No one able to solve my problem.
Brother I have an e bike named as Raymon hardray 4.0. It has a yamaha mid drive motor and a yamaha display. I tried to increase the speed of the bike by putting magnet to pedals and removing sensor from its original place.. it worked perfectly but suddenly it stopped working completely. It gives very little peddle assist. Before I could go max 16miles but now the motor doesn’t support 5 miles.
The change in the display that appears after this problem is that the range shown on the display is blinking. It never blinked before. Please help me. I haven’t found any video to solve this problem. No one in my area is able to identify the problem
Dude has, zero knowledge, on how batts or electricity works. LMAO Fun watch though!
2:50 what battery brand?
Wondering where it was? Not Hadeligh Olmpics track ?
Yes it is
@@DudeStuff might give it a go myself later. I only live in Benfleet
@@callumnoblett4905 give it a try 😊
I use a BBSHD with 52v battery , your bike sounds noisy compared to mine like as if you need some grease somewhere, your bike should mince that hill easy even slow with some stop starts use gears & peddle assist when need to , i have one hill by my house more like a steep bank with a very tight turn through trees, it took me a good amount of attempts before mastering it, the first attempt my bike was up a tree with me laughing my head of , practice make perfect :)
He probably took out the plastic gear and has the metal one to withstand the strain of the powerful motor and his substantial weight.
Which do you think is better conversion... Hub drive or mid drive?
Every day riding much prefer hub
Mid hub or rear wheel conversion which is best for a trek
@@7302ab whichever suits your needs
@@DudeStuff really want to buy a kit for a medium trek x caliber 27.5 wheels atm ie continental 2.2 tyres but I want for road use fast power and what’s the best controller button or handle that turns like a motor cycle just want it easy to be guided to the purchase asap as in Scotland
I bet if you lower your seat right down and get ass over the centre over the pedals squat down ... weight lower your climb faster ...toward the steep part your be able to spring weight forward and up ..in order to pump your weight up your get that little extra distance toward it last legs ..
But yea i think lower seat play about shifting weight in timing you can get better results on this hill for sure .....i think now to point where technique is extra part needed to drive it without having to add more power ... ..Pumping would be the technique .....shifting weight and feathering weight ...feathering weight is hoping little bit that no weight on the bike ....feather bouce weight off bike then bike weight is halved and speed go up ....so you can feather weight to pump up and down ...ur not jumping just bouncing weight from feet to waist .....
Im guessing with jiu jitsu back ground your able to do that and pretty good at it ..there lot and weight shifting in jiu jitsu i imagine
With a lot of these ebike batteries, if you use the key to lock the battery in, but don't take the key out after locking the battery, the key will shake so much while riding, that it'll unlock the battery, and the battery ejects itself.
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My bbs02 climbs hills like that with ease even starting from base of the hill with no run up, with a 105kg rider, all you need is traction, a large rear casset, my case is a 42t-11t or bigger (but i have standard front 46t chainring) pedal power with throttle and body balance. Then those hills become fun and breakfast for the bike
What speed is your bike - trying to fit a bbs02 on a 11 speed but having some chainline issues
@@connorb5824 my bike is a 10 year old mtb 26 wheels with 1.75 wide tour tyres, 9 spd, I don't get much of trainline issue maybe alittle off on the highest gear but no problems. On a fully charged 48v battery with alittle pedaling and full throttle at 25amp I hit 54 kmh on the flat and 58kmh on fully charged 52v .
I done just over 2000 km on that motor and a good 500km would have been at full throttle during the times I used it, the bbs02 is a really good motor it almost performs the same as my other bike with similar setup with standard bbshd
Thanks! Sounds like a rocket
So you think it is not necessary to use smaller chainring for hill climbs with BBS?
I have a stock Bbshd with a 42t and it’s better if you go from a stand still with pedal assist … you should have no problem climbing any hill whatsoever
Which cassette do you have on the back? I have 11-50t and I was wondering if I should go with 42t chainring or 44t. It will be E-Bike for mountains mostly.
@@mrgodzio1750 42t you will be able to climb any hill no problem the Bbshd is that powerful it just doesn’t care how uphill it is… not sure what I have on the back
“Never trust science” 🤣🤣😂 perfect 👍
That last run 👏
I ride up a hill that steep daily with a 48v battery when I get close to the top I change gear & it does it everytime I think some of your problem is confidence I'm also 17 stone
Just had my BBSHD hardtail on a narrow single track with some rocks and lots of roots. I couldn’t manage up hill. Too much torque. I either didn’t have enough power, was bouncing off roots, or i would have too much torque and wheely. Rough go. Need more practice but it felt more dangerous to me
A rear hub can only dream of steep hills
My 15kw rear hub would have eaten this hill if you can keep the front wheel on the ground (its in a stealth bomber frame still wheelies from 30mph)
What if the hill was 1K long and 120+ meters high - that's what I have to get up just to reach the nearest bus stop. Could your bike make it?
we're is that place? it looks great. 👌
Does going uphill suck up the battery ?
He charges the hill like he's going to fly over it. Only problem is there's no wings on that bike. I used to ride up hills like that on my Honda 50 .
What did you do to modify and what did it start out as
is this a Uart or Canbus Motor?
I can't understand the serious comments some people have left down below, this is clearly not a video to inspire serious comments it's meant to put a darn smile on your face fella's.. like there is on mine when I was watching this.
I mean, I can't even comment on being able to go up that with my stock tsdzb2b .. since it's a torque assist drive without throttle.. like a proper mtb should be. This is a dirt bike, on a dirt bike hill, and it's friggin hilarious considering you can build this for a fraction of what you'd need to pay for an electric dirt bike, while you can ride it without a motorcycle license ... ( as long as they don't check the wattage on the motor.. just put some 36v 250w stickers on it )
I think your the first ever person to realise I was just having a good laugh 😃 like a dirt bike hill climbing event 🤣 seems this video really upset a lot of serious mountain bikers 😆
@@DudeStuff I wasn't the first for sure, but it still really amazes me how people thought this was serious. When I saw that battery coming off I never felt luckier that I put straps on mine as I went over the handlebars earlier today quite violently and my carrier plate didn't come off just twisted a bit sideways guess I pulled the two grommets out slightly it was attached with 🤘🤘
One more thing on the list of things to fix.. eventually.
Also a blast to see that engine grind it's way up even though I wouldn't want to be it's next owner I think maintenance might be a tad higher as usually to be expected 😂😂
I know it was fun, but the part about it being an abused return bike certainly played a part. Thanks for turning that frustration in some amusement not just for yourself but for all of us, my hat's off to you.
I love your Gung-ho attitude, had a good laugh at your expense, though I'm sure you don't mind.
That used to be my attitude doing mountainlike races in shorts, T-shirt and trainers. Just giving it a bash.
A long time ago now mind.
Agree! Great vid..
What is the best controller sabvoton200a or fardriver for ebike??
What is that frame allowing to perfectly fit the bafang?
06:55 *makes it over the crest of the hill to find a farmer waiting with a loaded shotgun*
Guys of our era and build, every time you fail, take a seat and eat an onion pie, try again, I've blown quite a few motors and shredded gears, snapped tubes on the frame, flattened tyres. Coming up the road with my shopping I take it extra slow, not much choice anyway, the motor struggles to move me at all on one hill. Pie and a beer, don't mind If I do.
Not to mention broken bearings, blown MOSFETs, melted wiring, blown fuses, overheated connectors, burnt controllers, snapped throttles, battery shorts, blown busbars, trashed BMSs, disintegrated hall sensors, shredded cables in axle, broken spokes and buckled rims, I had that many I quartered them with the angle grinder and took them to the scrappy, I got 25 quid, know what I did? Bought pies and beer, luv it
This information has been invaluable for my current build
Maybe try not flying the whole way up like a dirt bike and spread your wieght In a manner to manage wheel spin and applying power to the surface to keep traction and forward momentum on the climbs , but for sure getting one looks like it absolutely goes ham go hard mate 🤙
Lol fuck ya he did it.. Got to love his approach though.. lol
Never give up. Good job 👍
you really but that to the test! How about with 26 inch fat tires and some deep shocks?
Why did you ride down the hill the 1st time
Haha. Great video. Wish I had watched this before building a mid drive. Endless Fing problems.
You must be learning so much from this experience. 😂
Damn your Bafang mid-drive is noisy. My 1000w is quiet as a mouse and would probably get up that hill with the right gear and power settings.
I almost died when the battery went flying
And this is a real bike test without the fake
How much range does it gives in full turbo mode
You have a very large ring on the front by the motor. Change the rig to half that number of teeth (26t bling ring on the correct wide shallow chain set) and you ought to be able to go up that slope from a standing start. At one point you had just come off with the rear derailuer set to near the top (high speed) cog, I thought "what is this guy trying to do?" Of course, maybe you will break the chain or wheely yourself off the back of the bike, but you will need to use the lowest gear and add shed loads of grunt yourself.
What size is the rear tire? And what gear were you in?
Lowest gear and widest tire climbs like a champ.
But can your e-pit bike climb it?
on test 5000 when the battery fell off i laughed and still laughing
🤣😭😭😭
Heh I could probably do that on my recumbent 750w 48v mid drive, but I'd be scared I'd snap my chain with the torque the wide range 11-50 9sp rear cassette gets me :)
If its cutting out no power do you think it's the bms in the battery
No the battery is bouncing out the mount, my own fault bought a wrecked abused bike and riding it with parts missing, modifications not finished. Definitely need to sort properly before riding
@@DudeStuff on your last run I was pissimg my self did you hit a brick
Will 750w do 30-40 degree long climb
don't have this but am very interested in purchasing ...
It's like watching a kid with a new mini bike . Lol cheers your a funny guy. Gets up the hill then jumps off every time.
There more power in lower gears . Just pedal and sit down. You maybe it up no problem.
Started that run-up in Scotland.
You can do it !!!
Thats determination lol he made it.
The way you ride it, you should get a emotorcicle. You can trow your pedals to the trash
I heard or read, can't remember which, to never drop the battery. Just once and something in it might be damaged enough to make it dangerous. Allegedly it needs to be inspected by a certified professional after.
Certified in what? Who would that be?
thanks to your video, I could see how bad those kind of electric conversion kits are, I had planned to buy one to do MTB but your video showed me that cheap is expensive in the end.
That's not a conversion kit bike he's riding. Looks like a factory built Ebike.
@@GorillaZillasits kinda inbetween diy and factory. but honestly he just cant ride. its embarrassing.
i just got the mototec 2000w and a mx650
this video triggers me in so many points ^^ most intense the broken akku
And this is why i use straps to hold the battery in place
I do like the way you've left the battery lock key in the battery. I'm guessing the battery fell out because you didn't lock it.😂🤦♂ My BBS02 seems to rip up anything
No it wasn't the key the battery catch wasn't fitted yet at that time
Looks like you break anything you touch hahaha 😂 😂 😂
Great bike I think the battery came out because you still had the keys in so the vibration could just turn the key. I remember it lifting up before once and Andy said remove the key as it can turn. But apart from that it rocketed up that hill it's sure has some power great job.
I don't think the key was locked to be fair and there is no screws at all in the bottom battery bracket because it was a returned bike that someone returned in awful condition
@@DudeStuff That's some hill and it went up it great job it shows how powerful these motors really are.
Persistence almost legendary here but a complete lack of specifics? It looks to be a cheapo 250 watt direct drive motor. Simply put technique will not help much here as more power and torque are required and it will eat that hill which appears to be a 1 in 1 gradient.
I have a friend like you, downhill snowracer, never ever made it through the FIRST corner of the hill
ok you made it good job
What bike is this you’re riding mate? Looks sick
you are ready for the Isle of Mann
Great video man, definitely great effort, thanks for the video
I don't get it I have the bbshd and it kills hills and I live in Canada Vancouver and where I live there are steap hills and it eats them for breakfast. I would say there something wrong with your battery mabey it's not giving out the amps it needs.
He doesn't understand, or is intentionally using gearing the wrong way! lol Going for momentum instead.
What bike, battery, motor, etc is that
This had me laughing. Your too funny man.
Is that classed as a hill?
For this kind of riding you need to lower down seat,add chain guide,nice trying to get up hill,it looks fun :)
No reason why that bike shouldn't be able to carry you up that hill in first gear on it's own power - without input from you. You might need to position yourself over center a little, but other than that the bike can do it smoothly and without stumbling.
Love it lol. I've got up steeper hills on a honda Vision in the 90s tho lol. Fucking hilarious tho mate. You made my day.👍
Just made mine. And I needed it. 👊👊👍👍
well the issue is that he don't use the gears lol, makes for a funny vid but just not smart usage..
scooters/mopeds like the one you said have a CVT so it auto-gears down, which is basically what he needs aswell.
@@BH4x0r continuosly variable transmission. Know it well dude. Just changed the rollers in yet another super cool bike... A Honda sh125 😂
Just peddle. I have a birdbike in the UK and can go up steep hills without having to take a run at it.
2500 watts, are you crazy? That’s more then enough to easily climb any mountain
Fucking perfect lol
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The battery just falling from a simple trail is a big no-no. That system is unfit for mountainbiking
I've the ultra now running with halls on phaserunner. Will be doing in a video detailing in next week or two.
exactly. have you ridden a bike since childhood? I don't think you're the most qualified for this video. that bike is dope though
You need some suspension
Dress this guy in a skirt and its a little britain sketch😂completely knackered and out of breath while riding an e bike, my nan....
The Olympic MTB course was built for bikes not motorbikes no? Am I wrong? Are we ok with people going over there on scramblers and tearing the place up totally?
Don't like the idea of the battery falling off hitting bumps especially after spending thousands !
That is far too steep you should try a 1 in 4 on the road.
IDEA : kid bafang 1 kwt + bike + wheel 20inches bmx + hub shimano alfine 8
ohloff \ leading star 32t \driven star 20+t !!!!!