Donna was the best companion in new Who to me, for one core reason: She doesn't worship the doctor. She's not in love with him. She's willing to call him out on his shit from time to time.
Donna was the perfect companion as a best friend character. She was not a romantic interest like a lot of New Who companions are and she didn't have a personality that just took a backseat in the relationship so in a way she was a true sidekick.
I don't get why people are against love stories in doctor. I understand when it comes to martha for example,it was definitely a bit annoying,because it was a one-sided crush. But with rose it was different. They had this strong bond between each other,both of them loved each other equally.In my opinion,it's beautiful. Rose may not be the best companion,but 10th doctor and rose were the best duo in tennant's era. How they were always smiling in each other company, hugging. How could people hate something so pure and innocent. Also,doctor literally had a relationship with river so what's the problem.
In this case "a good actress needed a great script". You thought being skeptical about Matt Smith taking over after David Tennant's run was harsh, imagine having a woman play as the doctor for the first time in 40 years. Worse is 2 years before that the ghost busters remake happened and then a year later last jedi happened. Fans just experienced classic movies get shit on by feminists. And then this happened, it may not be a feminist change when I think about it, but its sure is hard not to think that it isnt with such mediocore writing.
@@bedrocktailor3226 I'd be cautious about equating "mediocre writing" with feminism; they don't necessarily go together. For a list of really good feminist SF over the past several decades, look up the site of the James Tiptree Jr. Literary Award. Not all the authors whose works made the short list are women, and none of the work is "mediocre".
One of my biggest gripes with claras character is the fact that we didn’t get the victorian version as a companion, she had WAYY more chemistry with the doctor and it would have been way cooler to see a companion from that time period react to everything..
Noah Thompson New Who just seems a lot more... cautious (if that’s the right word) with it’s companions overall. Compared to classic who they’re staying for longer parts of each Doctor’s era (so we get less each doctor), they’re always modern era humans (as opposed to historical companions or non human companions, and always around the same age of the doctor (or at least how old that regeneration looks) or always friends/love interests (Bill was the first professor-student relationship since classic era). The most interesting (risky) companions end up being one-offs from specials that never return or awesome groups of companions that are only in a select few episodes (strax, vastra, etc).
I would've liked if she changed a lot: every now and again Clara would be changed for another, and Prime Clara would've always been lost in the Doctor's timeline. So it could've went, Victorian Clara for a bit, then we met Prime for only a few episodes, then over and over for 12 so we, although she develops, the Doctor always knows she's going to die from that point so he still gets attached (but not in such an excessive way). Also, it's an interesting dynamic especially considering they could've done, an alien Clara, a prehistoric Clara, the Time-Lord Clara, possibly even jumping back and forth various timelines. It also could've been a better way to introduce her school-teaching in Season 8 and 9, almost as if she has to continuously adapt: but of course not too frequently, it would get too repetitive
I loved Capaldi. He was fantastic. Capaldi's acting was intense, funny in a assholish way, funny in a quirky way, and just straight up awesome. Some of the most intense moments on the show were strictly from Capaldi being Capaldi.
@@ToonamiT0M I liked them, and admired him for making them so much better with his skills and his heartfelt performances. I don't think you know "utter trash" when you see it, but thankfully that is your problem, not mine.
Everyone loves Donna cause she doesn’t worship the Doctor. It’s also why I fell in love with Rory. At the start he doesn’t even care at all about the Doctor, he’s just there for Amy. Donna is my favorite companion of all time.
It wasnt as much Amy as it was Rory... I always liked him more. Amy was good enough, but with her Flaws (some pointed out around Minute 4 here...) she was... problematic... tiresome...
Ow, erg, WHAT??????? Donna would be the WORST companion except for old pig nose with the "maths medal." Donna lovers seem to be people who don't like science fiction. They want the stories to be about "human frailty," or some such, instead of ideas and concepts of future scientific understanding. No, I don't know ANYONE who liked Donna. So PLEASE do not think that you speak for me, my friends, or other long time Doctor Who fans.
ive watched a lot of videos of people complaining about doctor who in 2020... but youre one of the first ive seen to acknowledge the absolute tragedy that is the loss of the old music.
Each to their own. I love both Murray Gold and Segun Akinola, they provide two completely different styles and Segun's style is more in line with traditional composing. He was not hired for his skin colour; he'd done a bunch of British television before this and is a talented composer. However if you prefer Murray's stuff that's completely fine; he is also a legend.
@@connormcrae2907 It could also be a creative decision from the top, removing or not using music that Akinola composed (but that's just speculation). Not familiar with his works but the series 11 really did have barely any music used and more ambient soundscaping over music. I know John Williams composed over 3 hours of music for the last star wars film but they used almost none of it.
@@ibEscartian interesting point there. Looking at the behind the scenes of Series 12 it seems that Akinola scores a certain amount before receiving an edit, but then scores a bunch of music to time with the edit of the piece. So I reckon there might be some missing tracks, but most of his music is in there. I just find some of his music more fascinating than other people do. Then again play Murray's "The Doctor Forever" and I'll be in love :D
Dont get me wrong, when the new composer was announced i was excitied and optimistic. I feel like the comparison to the new Star Wars films is very apt since i did feel that Murray's themes were being recycled to death after series 4, in the same way that the new star wars trilogy recycled and often misused old musical themes. So i was looking forward to a shake up in Doctor Who music. And i dont have a problem with the direction Akinola took the soundtrack, i just think the way its been implemented into the finished product was completely tone deaf (pun intended). At times it feels like the music in series 11 and 12 has just been applied randomly and arbitarily to the visuals.
I liked the 2020 series except the Timeless Child bit. The series before just kind of sucked. I only liked 3 episodes. But both series suffered from changing the music. I prefer Murray Gold's music and the way you would hear a theme and just know who was coming on screen like with Rose's return during the Dalek attack years ago. He could build anticipation. To me, the music was one of the weakest links of Chibnall taking over.
I liked the 12 exit! He was talking to himself, reminding himself to be The Doctor. It was also infused with Capaldi saying goodbye to his role himself.
Lilly Who agreed! I think Capaldi had the right to this long speech as speeches was his thing. And it was his last scene as The Doctor therefore I think the length of seen was so rightly given to Capaldi. Best Doctor in my opinion 🙂🙃
Jason Clark He WAS reminiscent of the earlier Doctors. What I wouldn’t give to have had one more years with Capaldi. Wish they could erase this last season. New show runner, new Doctor. Let’s have a do over!!!!
peter capaldi's run is actually quite beloved now, after 13 people went back and watched 12 and realised actually this is pretty damn good, does the opposite of the previous run as it seemed to gain steam as it went on prrogressively getting better
Rómulo Figueroa I agree season 10 was my favorite season in a long time. Probably since season 5 with Matt Smith. I like that Capaldi started out with a stick up his ass and slowly mellowed our and learned how to have fun again. I haven’t actually watched much of the classic series but it seems to mirror the 1st doctors story arc a lot. So when they met in the crossover it felt like the doctors story came full circle.
You either love his run or you hate it. I’m a huge fan of season 9. It’s my 2nd favorite season after 5. I also love a lot of the episodes from 8 and 10. Wish more people liked it :((
I liked him when he was more of an asshole, morally ambiguous. I liked him like he was sort of a old timy grandpa that didn't care about peoples feelings but the endearing kind. But the problem was the writing and companions where the worst
Victorian Clara should have stayed for many reasons. She's different She's not modern She's funny! and it'll be funny to see her being introduced to future tech and planets!
@Hannah Smith me too ! One of my favorite tardis team was with the 2nd Doctor, Jamie (a compagnon from the past , 18th century scotland) and Zoe (a compagnon from the future, the 21th century - wich was the future in the 60's). I'd really like to see something like that again in New Who explored in a different way maybe
Oh I dunno, they'd probably overdo a companion from the past being amazed by television / smartphones etc, but companions from the present get taken to a spaceship hundreds of years in the future and just go "meh" most of the time.
I would literally prefer the 9th doctor to the female one because the doctor never has a massive loss any more so I think if you change some things you could make doctor who good again say if you made an episode like this (one a cyber ship has been fighting a dalek ship the dalek ships guns are wiped out then the cybermen bord the dalek ship and start killing the daleks but leave one for an experiment the cybermen atempt to convert the dalek but some thing goes wrong thay finish and what is made is a abomination the thing has blood bags hanging of it there is bleeding flesh with iron burnt it to it the thing escapes the cyber ship and goes on a rampage trying to fined the creators of it to kill them it kills a few cyber planers but just can’t get to davros to kill him cut to it killing a cyber planer the doctors ship lands in the same ship the doctor try’s to stop it and dose but one of her companions die and the doctor regenerates). If this would be a bad episode I think it could never be worse than one with some big spider bois in the real world it would be better than any chibnall episode’s and by it I mean the monstrosity.
I know a personal attack on someone really isn't a good argument........but is it just me, or does Chibnall always have a smile that looks like he just farted in an elevator and is just waiting for everyone to notice?
I was going to say that tin that picture of him standing with the Tardis prop behind him, that picture that appears regularly in dr who review videos, he looks like the stereotypical geography teacher who turns out to be a sex offender. I think it's the creepy upturned smile that does it. He does look a bit like Johnathan King. Now that;s creepy. I'm not saying Chris Chibnall is a sex offender, I'm just saying he looks like the stereotypical creepy pervert teacher, that's all.
I like the monologue before a regeneration. It allows everyone to come to terms with the doctor that will soon be departing and reminisce about the journey they’ve had together.
Try and remember that the very first plays in ancient Greece were monologues and that the first actor ever filmed did a death scene. This death scene was funny because the film ran out before the actor finished dying. Considering these starting points, you have to expect these kinds of scenes. It is also very Shakespearian.
@@berranari1 Try and remember that they also wore masks and performed on the street in ancient Greek theatre, plus that in Shakespeare's time, women were said to not be able to act, so men did all the women's roles, this is why putting random, unrelated facts into a sentence does not add up to causating a monologue before a regeneration scene, because the first Doctor died from being so old in real life, so they needed a new Doctor the Second time. It then became a feature of the character when changing actors. This has nothing to do with ancient Greek theatre, Tudor Theatre, which did not have women in and was all done in rhymes, or black and white cinema, that was so constrained by the technology of the time. None of those facts have anything to do with plot devices because someone died, wanted more money, or they got someone better in.
I rewatched season one recently and it was way less bad than I thought it was. Even the farting green alien episodes weren’t too bad. The second one with the single Slitheen made me emotional somehow??? Absolutely mad, that was. The writing makes up for the disgusting effects. RTD knew how to make a nice, not overly complicated season arc. Miss that. And Murray Gold. Oh, do I miss Murray Gold.
Strange, I feel the same way. Always hated Series 1, then decided to give Rose (the pilot) a chance years later, and I thought it was incredibly well made on second viewing. Helps to have a new perspective on things.
Dr who absolutely proves what the plan is and the same people who whine about white people engaging in cultural appropriation are the same people who want to replace straight white male characters, first with women and then with blacks or non white blokes, Jodie Whitakker was mot an upgrade she was a downgrade she's not as good an actor and not believable as an intelligent action driven dr They tested the waters with the master making him missy (who was at least an ok actress) and then that terrible Pakistani bloke who is just awful and then when that passed they replaced Peter (after having his companion tear him down as an old straight white man for over a season) then they have jodie and chibnal shit on the legacy with the timeless child and now they wanna brin tenant back for a bit to crap on his legacy then replace him with a black gay guy The BBC the scum left media are nothing but a bunch of misandrist racist scumbags a d I hope they burn in hell for trying to destroy the west
Davies successfully brought back Doctor Who for a new audience, and while the creativity and wackiness is present, the chracters and the cohesive, easy-to-follow writing made it more welcoming to new viewers. A lot of emphasis is put on grounding the characters, and overall it really makes it a balanced viewing experience. The wackiness and fantastical nature of Moffat's era is what makes it stand out. I loved how crazy and complex the stories were in that era because it fits who The Doctor had become. He's known to the people in universe, he's the president of the world for fuck's sake. It frustrates me when I hear people shit talk about Moffat's over-the-top style of Doctor Who, because Doctor Who is inherently over-the-top. Of course that means the writing quality between episodes is more of a gamble, but it's still incredibly fun and exciting to watch the "shitty" stories. Chibs's era is completely disjointed and has an utter lack of identity that's been gilded with stunning visuals and effects in order to hide the poor writing, character development, chemistry, and world building. Virtually every plot point from the previous new Who lore from Moffat's and Davies's eras has been reduced to nothing at this point, and it feels very disconnected.
Capaldi did incredibly with the scripts he got. I honestly loved his series', clara was annoying yes, bill far less annoying and pretty good tbh. Heaven sent best episode of doctor who ever. (Yes i have seen it all (like actually all of who))
Chibnall: Don't challenge me, fans, because I'm a completely new showrunner. I could bring down your "Doctor Who" with a single word. Fans: You're the worst writer and showrunner we've ever met, but we don't think you're quite capable of that. Chibnall: No, you're right. Not a single word, just six. Fans: We don't think so. Chibnall: Six words. Fans: Stop it! Chibnall: Six. Chibnall goes over to BBC and shows this: Chibnal: The Doctor is the timeless child! Fans: What did he say? BBC: Oh, well, nothing, really. Fans: What did he say? BBC: Nothing. I don't know. Fans: Chibnall, Chibnall, what did you? What was that? What did he do? What did you say, Chibnall? Chibnall! You stupid...
@@Lucifronz it's a reference to what Chibnall said about a classic doctor who episode in like the 80's or something, back when he was young. It's really ironic XD check it out
Capaldi's regeneration speech was amazing ok..!!! I don't know what you're talking about. Also the Doctor's character development in season 9 makes sense, because at the end of 'Death in Heaven' he realizes he'd been taking himself too seriously, brooding constantly whether he was a good man or not; when he was just an idiot with a box and a screwdriver.... That's why he's not as dark in s9. But we know that in heaven sent and hell bent he does channel his dark obsessive streak, so its not all gone.
@@MRJDXTRA It's not a competition. Matt Smith and Peter Capaldi were two very different Doctors, and the circumstances of their regeneration were very different. Their respective speeches were a result of where they were mentally. Matt Smith's speech reflected hope as he had very narrowly avoided dying, having been gifted a brand new regeneration cycle at the last moment. Capaldi's speech on the other hand was more of an acceptance of his inevitable regeneration, when all he actually wanted was to rest and die as himself. You cannot compare the two speeches and say one is better than the other. They're both beautiful in their own way.
Yes season 6 was insane, but i still think its a great season and the timey-wimey convolutedness of the season finale makes sense for the doctors wedding. Yeah the story is a bit confusing but it still was pretty planned out, and River Song is a highlight. I think it continued to introduce new ideas that started with season 5, and I mean it's not like the David tennet era didn't have some absolute wonky stuff either. Idk, I'd probably take season 6 over everything that came after it.
I was fine with everything, until they said that only when river and the doctor touch time continues, and then river touches a robot that looks like him, and time continues... I mean, how easy is it to trick the universe?
The universe wasn't tricked though, it was always the Teselecta that was at the lake, and time was damaged because she failed to do what she was supposed to do in a fixed point, i.e. shoot the robot. I personally loved season 6 for the most part, except for the very end where the fat blue head starts chanting 'Doctor Who?' - that was very cringey.
@@ReactionVideoDotAvi If he was a robot all along, why didn't he came out of the robot after the robot was shot at the first episode of the season? If he would have done it, Rory, Amy and River wouldn't have had to go through his death.
The whole point of the exercise was to fake his death ("I've got too big"), he needed witnesses for that because The Silence wouldn't be able to pass that information to anybody and River wouldn't remember it.
I loved Eccleston, Tennant was just perfect, Smith was fun and Capaldi was classic and awesome. My favorite companion was DEFINITELY Donna Noble and she was a part of some of the best episodes. When Whittaker took over I was SO disappointed. She didn't have the BADASS "IM THE DOCTOR" moment that thrilled you and made you believe it. I haven't kept up with her version at all. But dreams did come true when I got a group photo with David Tennant, Billie Piper and John Barrowman at Comic Con. Fucking DREAM TEAM photo op.
@@mayotango1317 totally agree with you. I also think that Donna is the best Donna is fun, intelligent, has better motivs other than LOVE INTEREST FOR THE DOCTOR!
I actually really loved both Eccleston and Capaldi’s doctors. Both of them felt like I would imagine a immortal time traveler who has watched everyone they love die, they felt grizzled and somewhat cynical. I liked Eccleston because his character really did embody the “Emotionally Damaged” aspect to the doctor that the Time War brought about. You can tell that he is struggling with his own grief. I liked Capadli because he was a nice change up from the “Suave, Eccentric, good looking bloke with a time machine” and embraced a more cynical snarky approach that changed things up. He is still one of my favorite Doctors, even though they botched his writing quite a lot. I think my favorite arc of all time was time loop arc. There are definitely plot wholes in that story, but it really fits the stubborn hatred that Capaldi’s doctor is so good at. Edit: I kind of wish they would take them selves a little bit more seriously. It could honestly do with a little bit more heavier tones. Matt Smith was great and all, but it seems like every season since his debut has tried entirely too hard to keep things lighthearted. A little bit more grim and emotionally realistic writing would be nice.
I thought Capaldi brought that to his seasons, and I loved him for it. You don't live damn near forever in a state of intermittent chaos and personal fragmentation without part of your character going very dark indeed. Too much loss will do that to you.
Capaldi’s dying speech still inspires me to this day and very emotional, Moffat for all his faults wrote that scene beautifully. As for Matt Smiths run it was actually good. Series 1O with Bill was one of the best series of new Who. How jaded are you mate?
Damn, I agree and can't stand the hate on it. I think the crisis of the 12th really make sense and is actually heartbreaking and beautifull. And music... Sheperds boy or Clara tracks are great
"Waning down" Please, Twelve had his bad moments, but so did any of the RTD-era Doctors. Twelve had some of the best dialogue and scenes in the show, and his last finale was one of the best Cybermen stories in the history of Doctor Who.
I know this is two years old, and I haven’t even finished the video yet, but I want to clarify that Clara was supposed to be the Victorian one. BBC made him do it as her in the modern day instead. The war doctor was supposed to be 9, but Chris wouldn’t come back. It’s very possible other things were derivative of BBC or production issues and not Moffat. Edit: Cube Emperor’s actor was notoriously difficult to work with. He wouldn’t film the ending as intended and continued to cause problems. He left the project after filming what we saw and they couldn’t go back and get a new actor because it was too late into the process. So they had to change the entire ending to fit with what they had already filmed.
Yeah, it was a smart idea they didn't use the Victorian Clara. . . Tough enough explaining things like time dilation to a modern audience. Trying to explain some of the high concepts to the audience, threw an 18th century victorian lens, would have gotten real old, real fast.
I agree with a lot in this video, but not on Series 10. It's my third favourite and I think one of the show's best. Capaldi is one of the best Doctors and sorely underrated
Aidan -- Not by everyone. Moffat and Capaldi between them meant to grow the Doctor up, and they did, which was lovely for some older fans (like me), but upset many other fans. Capaldi's run is, at base, all about death, loss, and the recognition of a certain degree of futility (which is kind of what getting old brings with it), so for some of us who were going through that ourselves in our later lives, Capaldi was -- damn near perfect. I can understand why younger fans (in years, and maybe at heart) found that upsetting and hard to connect with.
Completely agree. It was a great return to form, and while the second half wasn’t as strong, I’d never was bad (except Pyramid at the End of the World) World Enough & Time more than makes up for it!
I don't care what anyone says, i love series 5 and 6, even parts of 7, you cant take away my love for Matt Smith as The Doctor. However I do agree that series 7 was weaker compared to its predecessors.
Seriously? I thought Season 7 was better.. It wrapped up the Long overdue end of the Ponds and Clara/Eleven and the Impossible arc brought in Some freshness to the show in my eyes
@@GLBizzie Clara in S7 was basically Amy 2.0, but without any of the growth Amy/Rory had experienced over the years with the Doctor. Not really that fresh.
I really miss the “golden age” of the show. I thought it was cool that you call it the same thing that I do. The show just doesn’t have the same feel that it used to under Russel T Davies. I still the love the show and will probably follow it as long as it continues or for the rest of my life. But I doubt I’ll ever look back as fondly on another era of Doctor Who.
My thoughts exactly! Never did I laugh, cry and yearn to join them as much as during seasons 1 to 4. The whole dynamic between the doctor and his companions....beautiful.
It certainly was. I really enjoyed the Moffat era too (which might turn out to be an unpopular opinion in this comment section...) but I grew up on the Davies era. The nostalgia is strong with that one :)
A. R. D. Thorne I certainly did enjoy the Moffat era. Matt Smith did a great job as the Eleventh Doctor (although Tennant is my favorite), it was mainly the writing I had problems with. It took me a while to get used to new feel to the show and the new doctor when I first watched season 5 because I was still in grief over the lose of ten but looking back that is a pretty solid season, probably the best in elevens era. However season 6 and 7 pretty much made no sense because they were both giant plot holes. I liked what Moffat was trying to go for with the grand twisting mysterious plots however there was never any payoff because there was rarely an explanation that made sense. I think he was a bit too ambitious and kept digging himself into a hole. On top of that I think there was definitely more character development overall in the RTD era and they were treated better overall. I also enjoyed the time with Peter Capaldi as well and unlike others was actually convinced that there was real character development under his run. Some of it happens off screen so you have to read between the lines a bit but still.
the golden era was also not due to the best time for Doctor Who, but also a great universe with Torchwood and TSJA, now theres none of that, just a poor shell of one show that was once great
The treatment of Rory and Mickey always bothered the shit out of me. Despite all their work and devotion, they were mocked, cucked and considered completely disposable by both the Doctor and their girlfriends. Just try to imagine the reverse, you can't. If the Doctor or any other guy on Dr.Who treated women in that way, they would NEVER get to be the hero of a show like this.
Mickey at least ended up with 10 loving him like a brother. 9 was in a lot of pain and very jealous/envious, so he put Mickey down to build himself up. But 10 was always so excited to see him and wanted the best for him, and part of that was guilt that he and Rose had fallen for each other.
Amy's infatuation with the Doctor is very obviously a result of the disconnect from reality and probable abandonment issues she gained as the girl who waited, it detracts from her likability at first sure but it's not without reason. By episodes 6/7 of S5, we see Amy make it irrefutably clear she'd choose a life with Rory over a life in the TARDIS. Rory then gets used to really put the Doctor in his place and remind him how mortal the companions are, like the episode where our original Amy basically dies, or even back in Vampires of Venice where he first sees the dangers of space and time. I mean look, Gladiator Rory holding a baby is fucking awesome and even I knew he'd grown as a man, watching S7 debut at 8 years old. The Doctor and Rory making peace struck me as a really great unspoken display of positive masculinity, two people introduced in less than positive circumstances but united by a person they both cared for very deeply, and being mature and graceful enough to put those things aside to enjoy a true companionship. Rory and the Doctor's relationship is an evolution on the Rose/10/Mickey dynamic, where the Doctor can instead take upon the role of friend and supporter instead of being an intruder in the TARDIS Trio triangle, it's a relationship born of pure connection, no premeditated romantic or sexual goals, just respect and chemistry.
This is the problem with only old men writing the show. I don’t think just men are bad writers, lots of women writers suck too. But i think they need more writers. I love capaldi as the doctor and he deserved better
Rory to me was a better companion than Amy. He asked questions he was active. He would rather help people who were injured than just stare wistfully at the doctor. Amy didn’t even ask questions she was just there to blindly, admire everything the dr did.
I loved season 9! The two parters, the back to basics style, the theme of Clara being “addicted” to Doctor adventures as tragic escapism, and the way they portrayed the Doctor works for me. But it took a complete redesign of the characters. They basically rewrote Clara. And it works, I like Clara in season 9, but she’s basically a different character.
Personally I believe the Capaldi era was better than the Matt Smith era A) Capaldi is a way better doctor B) Moffat's writing is at its best C)the companions are better, as in they have more personality than the Smith era companions D) Capaldi era is more emotional than Smith era Still no one will ever beat David Tennant and Russel T Davies. David was and ALWAYS will be the best doctor ever and Russel is so amazingly talented and by far the best showrunner since 1963 imo.
@@tristansteinbomer3256 you have to be joking right? Have you even seen the original 1963 show? The RTD era might be popular but to argue it's in anyway true to the original vision in the show is so disingenuous and lacks any factual baking. RTD era was a soap opera featuring the teen romance novel transplant version of the Doctor. Cluster fuck stories like Last of the Time Lords, Journey's End, or the most insulting to the shows entire legacy "The End of Time". Are just as bad and in many ways worse. There was no objective decline in quality, you're just biased by your nostalgia.
“ I materialised the time capsule around you one second before your ship exploded and saved your life but keep crying” “MY BROTHER JUST DIED” “But his sister didn’t, you’re welcome” God I love peter capaldi
Yes in the end: we all liked to point at all moffat's mistake, because It was too complicated, because some didn't like Clara, or some of the episode were not good enough, or wethever you want. But then Chibnall came. And OH STEPHEN WE MISS YOU SO MUCH. (By the way, I Always loved moffat)
Same, I'm honestly surprised that this person likes series 8 but doesn't like 9 and 10. I was definitely the same opinion as him about the declining quality of series 6 and 7. But just because character development happens off-screen doesn't make it not believable. At the end of series 8, the Doctor accepts that he doesn't need to try so hard to be "good" and can relax a bit. Thus, after a time skip, we see him relaxed and letting loose. Similarly, Clara lost Danny after series 8, and he was basically the only thing tying her to Earth. She already had "addiction issues" to travelling with the Doctor. So without Danny, and perhaps as part of her grief, she becomes increasingly reckless and self-destructive. I also liked series 8 more than 9 or 10, but I wouldn't by any means say the latter two were bad. But I'm on the "Hell Bent was good, actually" side so we'll never see eye-to-eye.
I think he was the best storyteller in the new Who era. Since Jodie Foster it is just Dr. Woke for me and after watching 10 minutes into the 60s special I decided for myself, that Dr. Who ended with Cabaldi.
This American sounding guy just doesn't get it. It is weird that he likes Dr Who at all. I am guessing that he likes to criticize things. Dr Who is what it is. It was never a grand production nor was it about superb acting. I never liked Dr Who when I was a kid, I only got into it when I was much older. I am guessing that this guy was the other way around. I liked Star Wars and Spider-Man, when I was a kid, not Dr Who. I haven't seen Dr Who in the last 2 years, but I liked most of what I've seen of it. I liked Eccleston, Tennant, Smith and Capaldi. It is cool that this series has gone on for so long.
Series 8 Capaldi was stuffy and uncomfortable, came off too much like he was playing a role. Series 9-10 version is actually likeable and authentic. They tried to make the Twelfth Doctor like Capaldi's character Malcolm Tucker in The Thick of It, but that's clearly not how Capaldi wanted to play the role. You can see in Series 9 and 10 he seems a lot more comfortable as The Doctor.
Peter Capaldi isn't as good an actor as the fans make him out to be. People try to deflect blame onto either Clara or the writing instead of just acknowledging that Capaldi himself was the problem. For his entire first season and a good chunk of his second, he wasn't the Doctor. He was a fanboy PLAYING the Doctor and often came across as the Valeyard instead, which would have been fine if they'd brought Michael Jayston back in Season 8 to parallel Capaldi's sociopathic portrayal. Unfortunately, they didn't ask Jayston to reprise his role and if you don't know about the Valeyard's existence, Capaldi being a sociopathic arsehole makes no sense. John Hurt, supposedly the darkest Doctor, never came across as sociopathic and was a better Doctor in one episode than Capaldi was in his entire debut season. Even Colin Baker, who gets a lot of shit from the fanbase, could balance out his sociopathic moments with his flamboyant demeanour and I'm probably one of the only people who thinks that John Nathan Turner actually made the right decision by giving Baker such a ridiculous costume. I know Baker himself disagreed but it's a testament to his talent as an actor that his hatred for the costume was never visible in his performances. He swaggered around in it like it was the most normal thing in the world which really helped to emphasise that the Doctor is an alien. Capaldi's more minimal dress sense made him look like a normal human, so his sociopathy and social awkwardness didn't come across as alien or even as someone on the autism spectrum, something that Matt Smith could pull off in his sleep. Capaldi came across like any other man who has an antisocial personality disorder and his social awkwardness felt like an excuse to justify his behaviour. Because of Matt Smith and Colin Baker's dress sense combined with their larger than life personas, they actually came across as either an alien or at least an autistic person. Ironically, I think Capaldi being a lifelong fan was actually part of the problem. He was so terrified of getting the Doctor wrong after dreaming of getting the role for 5 decades that his insecurity bled through into his performance. To compensate, he tried to throw together as many previous Doctors as possible, including the Valeyard, and hoped that it would work. The problem with that approach is that you would require an actor of Laurence Olivier's calibre to combine 13 personalities into a cohesive whole whilst also bringing something new to the table. Capaldi is certainly no Olivier and frankly, I think even Olivier would have been spreading himself too thin if he attempted such a feat. There were simply too many Doctors for one person to juggle and without having a split personality disorder to explain it, I doubt any performer could pull it off.
Heaven Sent is one of my favourite episodes. It would be amazing if they did a season where it the doctor was by himself. He just turns up to situation to meet new people and solve the problem such as the special season that tenant had.
Blink! But Heaven sent was amazing, top episode. Capaldi just being the doctor, alone and a great director, as pointed out by the producer of the video, the Master of Whovians : )
Damn it man, I've been watching Doctor who since 1983 and I never even thought about the fact that the Doctor always meets the Master in chronological order.
The last few moffat series were a bit all over the place, but you know what they still were as well? Fun! They weren't the best, but they were always fun, bright and refreshing. Say what you like about clara, but she's quite a good character, even if the writing wasn't the best ever. And season ten was just ... shit ... but i have a feeling most of it was due to bbc's agenda. Now Chibbs era? It's dark, grey, cringy and has terrible writting beyond comprehension, with a doctor that doesn't know who she is.
I kinda agree, but I didn’t find the Moffat series to be fun, it was downright confusing and it’s what ultimately made me lose interest in the show, I tried to give it another chance with Capaldi and Whitaker, whatever her name is, but now like you said, it’s just too cringy and has terrible writing
@@manufacturedfromabove79 I guess Jazz and Ryan might be worse. So let me rephrase that: she used to be by far the worst New Who companion till Chibnall took over.
I agree with all of this, man. Everything about Doctor Who right now pisses me off. The directing, acting, scripts, music... even the dumb 2:1 aspect ratio. Literally unwatchable, far too cringey. It's weird to think that RTD will be the pinnacle of New Who. I always thought someone would come along, build on his solid groundwork and one-up him. Instead every new series puts RTD's era in an ever better light by comparison. The BBC should grow a pair, cancel the show and bring it back when they've found a creative team with any talent to speak of.
@@Brandon.Reacts i can't talk for him, but he never said that he didn't like it, just that RTD's was better, which in my opinion is also true. I liked all of the seasons in both eras but I prefer RTS's one. 4->3->2->5->6->8->10->1->7->9. Change my mind. (This is both quallity and enjoyment)
@Michael F Thanks :) but the start of the list is a preety popular opinion. just the 2nd half is more unpopular... I know some of those seasons are objectivly better then others, but I rated them based on my enjoyment from them.
@@timrosswood4259 Yeah, him and Jodie (and Stephen fry of course) were the only talents. I just wish they'd give 13 another chance, but not under Chibnall. funnily enough in "Kerblam" Yaz and Ryan were... good. Good! Yaz shows compassion at the end, and suddenly Mandip has talent. Ryan is a different and better personality, not a plot device, and Tosin shines. That's how important the lead writer is in a show.
3:26 I know it's not for everyone, but Big Finish does explain this in the Diary's of River Song. Missy can't kill River because she knows that River is a complicated space time event, since she influences lives out of order. Missy then scolds her saying she always tries to be consistent with The Doctor's timestream, which would make sense. The Master is evil, but he/she isn't an idiot, they know that causing those types of paradoxes could be dangerous, even to themselves, and since the Master most of the time has a TARDIS it would make sense that he/she can have a better reading on the Doctor's timeline, unlike River who when she sends messages for him she can't control which version gets the message Yeah I know nobody gives a shit, I'm just a fuckin nerd
The thing that bugged me about season 6 was the lack of consequences. Rory should have had much more intimate knowledge of the past 2,000 years of history than the doctor, with some really odd gaps in his history because he spent those two millennia guarding the big box of Amy. Another example, after spending 2 hours explaining to us that 'gangers are alive, the very first thing the Doctor does is murder Amy's 'ganger.
What you failed to realize is that steven moffat didn't lose his talent, as shown in that episode you loved so much. He has the talent, he just can't be fucked to actually write something good because he didn't care. When he wants to make something good, he can.
Right. The problem with Moffat is a typical artist problem; he's very imaginative and quirky, but he has no filter, he struggles to give half a shit about pacing, consistency, canon, logic. He invents cool new aliens for one episode, and immediately pisses on all the rules he himself invented in the next episode. He's like a very imaginative child telling a story that goes from tigers to space aliens to pirates to wizards. Even jokes; Moffat would have an entire stupid scene, shit on lore, confuse the audience, all as a setup to a terrible goddamn joke. He did okay under Russel T. Davies because, I presume, as head-writer, Davies had the power to edit and veto Moffat's work. But once he got full control on his own and they got through the episodes he had probably at least drafted while under Davies, he went off the rails. Davies, meanwhile, was probably a little stodgy and conservative. Moffat was a good influence on him to push the boundaries, but Davies still kept the show mostly true to the old series (I'm sure David Tennant, a fanatic for the classic series, also had influence--I know he got them to change the credits).
The problem with Moffat was he wasn't a show runner, he was better at writing one off stories where he could dedicate his time to it. Then saying that his stories always seemed out of place in RTDs Doctor Who, esp the library double where he must have known he was taking over from RTD. Moffats best season was his first as well, less layer upon layer of over done story arc tripe,, once series 6 started it became an absolute mess only saved by the other writers with their decent episodes. By the time Capaldi came in it was so ridiculous even the yanks switched it off.
TheRebel lets all not forget that Moffat also had to check with RTD when writing an episode to make sure a character wasn’t out of place or something or doing something RTD feels they wouldn’t do. It wasn’t all Moffat.
I would have loved if Capaldi's regeneration was silent. As he has nobody left he would simply reflect on his past with possibly a few flashbacks to show what he's thinking. Imagine the shots being far back and empty with nothing but the Doctor sitting alone. Most importantly, the regeneration should have been different to all the other ones.
fair enough guys, although the monologue's a little forgettable to me. While I loved Capaldi era I remember Smith's regeneration speech word for word, and he didn't even stick with me as much. Maybe his was too long? I don't know, I spitball ideas a lot
That’s something I never thought of, while I really love capaldi monologuing that would have been super fitting for what was happening in the doctors mind.
It's so unfair, they really did Capaldi dirty with his run, I love him as the Doctor and as an actor, his commitment to the character was there and his debut had promise but Moffat couldn't help but screw it up. I was gutted at his regeneration because I was losing interest when I knew how emotional the scene should be, but his last series had just driven me away from the show so much that I couldn't hold on to it.
It wasnt as much Amy as it was Rory... I always liked him more. Amy was good enough, but with her Flaws (some pointed out around Minute 4 here...) she was... problematic... tiresome...
The Modern era gave us four of the best doctors there’s been, nine, ten, eleven and twelve - twelve and nine excelled without the the calibre of writing that the other two had. Also the music? *hells yes*
Hang on, you're claiming Nine had worse writing than Ten and Eleven? I'm afraid I wholeheartedly disagree. Series one is fantastic and has some of the strongest episodes of the entire revived show. The characterization of the Doctor and Rose is incredibly compelling, as is their developing relationship across the series. Everything is so wonderfully set up and delightfully paid off, the character's have clear journeys, and it's got a sense of freshness to it. Even Aliens of London/World War Three, despite the farting Aliens, has better written character drama than anything from Chibnall's run. It also has the best RTD finale, whereas the others would lean too heavily on contrived deus ex machinas. If Doctor Who had been cancelled after that first series, it would still have been an incredible piece of television.
@@JackWolf10 s1 had 5 episodes that were brilliant, probably some of the best who ever written, however (imo) it didn’t have the consistency of series 3,4 or 5.
I always had my criticisms of the show after the RTD era but the one thing I could never criticise it of being was boring. Moffat never managed to sink that low. Thanks Chibnall though, you finally achieved the unachievable.
literally everything you said is true. I have been a fann of the show since 9 and i have not felt such disappointment of doctor who until s 11. and the fact that you mentioned Murray Gold leaving is so true. It actually makes such a difference and i never realised until you mentioned it. Keep up the good work bro
To be fair, the story of the cubes episode is really just a backdrop for exploring The Doctor's need for companions, namely the Ponds, and how he always needs to be doing something regardless of how silly it may be. But still, the episode really dropped the ball with the pay off at the end on the alien ship, the message there was just your shallow 'human perseverance' run of the mill stuff, it didn't play into the personal struggle The Doctor was dealing with throughout the entire episode. They tried to lampshade what they had done with the series up to that point, make a fair statement on their own work during the last run with the 11th Doctor, but they completely failed to come up with anything to say at all.
Imagine you didn't watch Doctor Who and you see the part where a Slitheen says 'I need to be naked' because he's wearing a human flesh suit that's too small for him
I may be alone in this but I always saw the 12th doctor personality change in series 9 a mix of mid life crises with the fact that he thought he might die soon so he was like "whatever lets party" and kind of mellowed out in series 10. I do wish we got more of the 12th doctor from series 8.
I honestly think that series 9 is the best in the modern Who quality wise. Yes, there was that one stupid episode with rheum monster, first return to Gallifrey was completely wasted on Clara (though idea of a person having invincibility due to their death being already predetermine is kinda cool) and Clara probably should've left in x-mas special, but other then that every episode was rather strong. I could gather way more complaints against series 1-4 and 7-8.
I literally prefer the 9th doctor to the female one I’m not sexist it’s the writing is terrible and the scripts are just cringy and I think the female doctor could be good but they sqewd it up now the doctor he has to have a massive lose for the doctor because now he just never has a lose like get rid of a main companion (if I were gonna make a doctor who episode I would make the it start in a space conflict with the daleks go agenst the cyberman then the cyberman bord the dalek ship then the cybermen kill most of the daleks but thay convert one and it is a abomination it has blood bags hanging of it and instead of it wanting to kill everyone it try’s to kill the cyber planners and dravros for creating him he kills a few cyber planers but the doctor comes in and distroys the monstrosity but the cyber ship there on gets damaged and a conpanion of the doctor dies leave the doctor in a state of dipression for a few episodes on). If it seems bad I think it would be better than an episode about some big spidey bois
I loved Peter Cipaldi's Doctor and when rewatching the show I got genuinely giddy when his first episode was coming up. It was my first regeneration so I got to see the new doctor the same time everyone else was. and I understood him and wanted to see more from him.
Two things I'd get rid of/replace 1) let's forget everything and anything to do with 13... Let's just forget 13 was even a thing... 2) make unit more like the classics
@@UnchainedEruption Nah, just all of the Chibnall trash. Throw it out. Never happened. That's 11, 12 and the soon to be 13. All of it in the dumpster where it belongs and fire Chibnall as well. Hire someone who's not a self-loathing SJW.
Steven Moffat writes terrific episodes, wonderful scenes, and beautiful moments. What he cannot do is write a good series arc. The "twist" to Sherlock leaping from the building was ridiculous enough to kill the series, even if it hobbled on for another six or seven episodes. The Pandorica, plastic Rory and the Impossible Girl were all total drivel and made no sense, though I admit I enjoyed the crossing of the Amy/River Song arcs, the Silence and most of that series, the silly rabbit-out-of-the-hat outwitting time itself nonsensical climax notwithstanding. Series 9 - especially the three two-parters - was the pinnacle for me, and had it ended on the peerless Heaven Sent and his return to Gallifrey would have been hailed as the best ever, bar none. Sadly the tremendous build-up was squandered on the resurrection of Clara, or at least the avoidance of giving her what had been a moving and meaningful death. Peter Capaldi's acting was stellar throughout his tenure and his chemistry with the amazing Michelle Gomez a wonder to behold. For me they were the finest iterations of their respective characters in the show's history and the pay-off to their twin character developments in (the otherwise disappointing) series 10 was superb. The Chibnall era started with a damp squib and slopped on from there, but with series 12 has degenerated into a farcical, intelligence-insulting, toxic mess. As I write this there are growing fears COVID-19 may ultimately trigger the fall of human civilisation as we know it, but if it puts paid to another series of Chibnall's Who then... y'know... difficult call.
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Oh, and I will add one more thought; I think another problem with the new show, from literally the first episode onwards, is the obsession with The Doctor. I know that sounds weird, but in the original show, The Doctor was almost never known or recognized in the slightest, except by fellow Time Lords, his recurring enemies, and a few recurring characters. There are exceptions, like when Colin Baker went to a planet and they revealed that Jon Pertwee and Jo had been there before, but generally, he's a nobody. Even in Battlefield, he only barely got recognized by UNIT, by ONE guy who happened to remember hearing about him. The new show won't stop masturbating over their character; s/he just has to be amazing. He's everywhere, everywhen. Moffat went nuts with this; like, every planet has the word "Doctor" because of his influence, and signals thanking him are so strong and numerous they black out radio communication on earth in that one finale. We had the Doctor stare down Rassallon TWICE, while in the original show he met him once, was rather deferential, and moved on. And of course the stakes are routinely of earth-shattering importance instead of just being a cool story. He's super space Jesus at this point; even his fucking name was made out to be the most amazing secret in all of creation...TWICE! AGAIN! I get that this all has a superficial cool factor, but now it's just become standard to constantly make episodes purely about the Doctor's awesomeness, instead of episodes with the Doctor being awesome. In fact, while Moffat was incessantly talking about the Doctor's amazaballsness, he was writing the most incompetent Doctor; constantly fucking up, getting things wrong, and then winning because of a deus ex machina, usually his magic wand, I mean, sonic screwdriver...that can now project green energy fields to fend off blue energy fields that almost literally looks like Dumbledore and Voldmort locked in combat. Just...show, don't tell. The Doctor is awesome, just let him/her be awesome, we don't need entire episodes, entire arcs, about his awesomeness warping the very fabric of fucking reality.
Your completly right and even the doctor realises this by saying at the end of season 6 I became to big it’s time I step back into shadows then tries to delete himself from records
To be fair, how often has the Master "died" and returned later with no explanation? I'd say it's relatively in keeping with the character that Missy surviving and regenerating into Sacha Dhawan's Master is left ambiguous. For instance, Anthony Ainley's Master gets incinerated in Planet of Fire and then reappears in Mark of the Rani a few years later with no explanation as to how he survived Planet of Fire
@@dracopug Well, to he fair, I don't think they explained how the master got to the cyberman ship in s10, or how missy got from there to earth in s8...
I hope it will turn out that this Dhawan's master is an earlier incarnation. It would be really sad if Chibnall had just thrown out Missy's completely.
3:32 there's actually something in the deep dr who lore that prevents this, that timelords CAN'T meet people out of order, it's something to do with their mastery of timetravel, and with regards to Gallifrey you can't leave gallifrey, spend 10 years away and return a second later. 10 years will always have passed. I'm not a geek honest. I like the concept of Clara, but she stayed a season too long. Had she left at the end of 8 she would have been great. Bill and Nardole I felt were a good double act with the doctor, and missy was a great master. Just generally I think with Companions the David Tennant era got it right with changing compaions each season. All the companians were different and all brought a different energy. Hell Bent was amazing. As good as if not better than Blink. I also liked the end of series 10. I havn't watched much series 11; a female doctor isn't necessarily a bad thing, any more than a Black doctor would be, but the writing is not quite as good as and Jodie Whiticaker seems a bit miscast imo. You almost needed a Joanna Lumley type figure I feel.
@@Leakedloki I think it might have been interesting to have her leave at the end of series 8 but return for a few appearances in series 9 (sort of like Martha in series 4) to fully send off her character. With the way series 8 ends, I think Clara's story would feel a little unfinished if she was gone for good after that.
I will admit that I have very limited knowledge of Doctor Who but I have been coming back to this video and the sequel because I find this really funny and right up my sense of humour. So thank you for putting a smile on my face for the past few days with these videos :)
I really felt that season 10 was a nice return to form, things like smile I think really work well with their concepts and just because the word emoji is used doesn’t make it cringe and the only thing the episode does wrong in my opinion is a rushed ending , also I disagree with what you say about the regenerations.
Yeah I liked that it's set up with "what aspect of language has survived over thousands of years." I hate to have to explain the joke, but the script is aware that "it speaks emoji" is cringe. However, there's no denying that emoji are simple hieroglyphics that will be around as long as humans have faces, so the feeling of the scene is "ugh, of course it speaks emoji."
Thank you for making this, now people will understand what I couldn't come up with the words to describe how bad doctor who got. 1. The season 12 soundtrack composition is AWFUL. 2. It feels more like a Netflix Original than a classic TV show. 3. There is no emotion or meaningful story arch to the show whatsoever; overall and each individual episode. You hit the nail on the head and your roasts are spot on, I lol'd.
Bro you lost me at "Bill Potts is fine I guess." Literally stopped watching there. I agree with like 70% of what you're saying, but I suspected you might be conflating "how do I feel about it" with "how was it developed." Bill should've been 12's companion from day one, I loved their chemistry. And Clara, as you said, was a sloppily written character, but Jenna Coleman's amazing and her commitment to her performance and her charisma were enough to make me forgive more than I should have. And that's Doctor Who in a nutshell, if the charisma carries it for you, let it lull you. I don't deny most of what you've said, but I think that's coming from a place that accepted what you're bemoaning a while ago, so Doctor Who is just a thing I understand will often disappoint is just normal now.
It wasnt as much Amy as it was Rory... I always liked him more. Amy was good enough, but with her Flaws (some pointed out around Minute 4 here...) she was... problematic... tiresome...
I agree! I don't get how people keep hating on everything about everything in this show. I know people will think I'm some unopinionated sheep with no taste, but I thoroughly enjoyed every episode
I love that the 11th Doctor knows not to fall down the romantic rabbit hole after his lose of Rose long before his regeneration, and he purposefully keeps Amy at a barge poll’s (or 10-foot poll here in the US) length away, romance wise, for this exact reason.
The first time Matt Smith Doctor was killed, he was in the robot suit, but then the second time river drained the system, causing time to break, but if she'd have just killed him, it would have been fine
Rose, Martha and Donna are the best companions and s1-4 are the best seasons. Russell was the king of character development and hooking stories and arcs. Steven is complicated and isn’t dedicated to his characters at all.
I was not big on Rose after season 2, I thought she should've stayed gone, but I'd take her any day over the current companions. Martha and Donna were fantastic, though.
Doctor Who has always been political lol, just look at Capaldi's speech about capitalism in 'Oxygen', it's just that it's really forced now (Now as in Chibnalls run). I don't even think it's much of a problem with politics, it's more so a problem with writing, Chris Chibnall's dialogue is so awfully forced it makes me fucking implode out of pure cringe. I do like some episodes, but they are usually the ones not written by Chibnall, I just think it's lost good writing. They try to do the emotion and educational route, but either do it in a really forced way or a really boring way. A good example is 'Rosa', it has a brilliant concept, but it was executed fairly poorly. Nikola Tesla's Night of Terror is one of the only episodes I enjoyed from Jodie's era, as well as The Woman Who Fell to Earth, but that was just average. I think what's truly missing is good character development and generally good writing, also the music just isn't as memorable now.
@@litteralyjustsam5262 couldn't have said it better. It really makes me happy to see people criticizing the series for the right reason and not being annoying sexists. :)
I agree with some points but Capldi´s regeneration speech was beautiful and i think it was a very good sendoff and completion of the character arc that Capldi's doctor, he went from a harden incompassionate and unempathic man to accepting the kindness in him and telling his next regenaration to follow that path of kindness. It is one of my favorite speeches and regenerations.
Micah Schmitz is it controversial to like the Slitheen? I thought they were one of the more popular new who monsters. The absorbalof on the other hand....
Damn dude, did you just describe my exact experience with Doctor Who over this past decade? Everything you've said mirrors how I felt, it's a shame to see this show that needed a fresh breath of air fall even further
Just to clarify the kid at the beginning in the 11th Doctor cosplay isn’t actually me, I just meant he’s spiritually me. Poorly conveyed 💀
Donna was the best companion in new Who to me, for one core reason: She doesn't worship the doctor.
She's not in love with him.
She's willing to call him out on his shit from time to time.
I think she was a bit of a hit or a miss. If he was good she was excellent but when she wasnt I just found her annoying.
I found her annoying in the Runaway Bride episode but when she came back and became a companion, I liked way more.
Donna was the perfect companion as a best friend character. She was not a romantic interest like a lot of New Who companions are and she didn't have a personality that just took a backseat in the relationship so in a way she was a true sidekick.
I don't get why people are against love stories in doctor. I understand when it comes to martha for example,it was definitely a bit annoying,because it was a one-sided crush. But with rose it was different. They had this strong bond between each other,both of them loved each other equally.In my opinion,it's beautiful. Rose may not be the best companion,but 10th doctor and rose were the best duo in tennant's era. How they were always smiling in each other company, hugging. How could people hate something so pure and innocent. Also,doctor literally had a relationship with river so what's the problem.
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Doctor who is a classic example of “even great actors need a good script”
And also that great actors who live the material can make even a mediocre script sing.
She sucks, even with a great script.
@@Meg_Lovegood But with a good writer, she could grow in the part. I'm afraid that's unlikely, in the current circumstances.
In this case "a good actress needed a great script". You thought being skeptical about Matt Smith taking over after David Tennant's run was harsh, imagine having a woman play as the doctor for the first time in 40 years. Worse is 2 years before that the ghost busters remake happened and then a year later last jedi happened. Fans just experienced classic movies get shit on by feminists. And then this happened, it may not be a feminist change when I think about it, but its sure is hard not to think that it isnt with such mediocore writing.
@@bedrocktailor3226 I'd be cautious about equating "mediocre writing" with feminism; they don't necessarily go together. For a list of really good feminist SF over the past several decades, look up the site of the James Tiptree Jr. Literary Award. Not all the authors whose works made the short list are women, and none of the work is "mediocre".
One of my biggest gripes with claras character is the fact that we didn’t get the victorian version as a companion, she had WAYY more chemistry with the doctor and it would have been way cooler to see a companion from that time period react to everything..
I too would have loved Victorian Clara.
We haven't had time period companions since classic who really
Noah Thompson New Who just seems a lot more... cautious (if that’s the right word) with it’s companions overall. Compared to classic who they’re staying for longer parts of each Doctor’s era (so we get less each doctor), they’re always modern era humans (as opposed to historical companions or non human companions, and always around the same age of the doctor (or at least how old that regeneration looks) or always friends/love interests (Bill was the first professor-student relationship since classic era). The most interesting (risky) companions end up being one-offs from specials that never return or awesome groups of companions that are only in a select few episodes (strax, vastra, etc).
I’ve always thought the same thing.
I would've liked if she changed a lot: every now and again Clara would be changed for another, and Prime Clara would've always been lost in the Doctor's timeline. So it could've went, Victorian Clara for a bit, then we met Prime for only a few episodes, then over and over for 12 so we, although she develops, the Doctor always knows she's going to die from that point so he still gets attached (but not in such an excessive way). Also, it's an interesting dynamic especially considering they could've done, an alien Clara, a prehistoric Clara, the Time-Lord Clara, possibly even jumping back and forth various timelines. It also could've been a better way to introduce her school-teaching in Season 8 and 9, almost as if she has to continuously adapt: but of course not too frequently, it would get too repetitive
I loved Capaldi. He was fantastic. Capaldi's acting was intense, funny in a assholish way, funny in a quirky way, and just straight up awesome. Some of the most intense moments on the show were strictly from Capaldi being Capaldi.
Yes, I feel that way too. Beautiful work.
Capaldi was great, but most of his stories were utter trash. He deserved so much better.
@@ToonamiT0M I liked them, and admired him for making them so much better with his skills and his heartfelt performances. I don't think you know "utter trash" when you see it, but thankfully that is your problem, not mine.
@@ToonamiT0M But if they were good, they were god damn good!
@@ichabod1370 I'll admit that "utter trash" was a but much. But do feel they were among the worst that Moffat had produced.
Everyone loves Donna cause she doesn’t worship the Doctor. It’s also why I fell in love with Rory. At the start he doesn’t even care at all about the Doctor, he’s just there for Amy. Donna is my favorite companion of all time.
It wasnt as much Amy
as it was Rory... I always liked him more.
Amy was good enough,
but with her Flaws (some pointed out around Minute 4 here...) she
was... problematic... tiresome...
Same with Bill!
New Who is crap.
Ppl who don't like Donna "bc she is loud"
Ow, erg, WHAT??????? Donna would be the WORST companion except for old pig nose with the "maths medal." Donna lovers seem to be people who don't like science fiction. They want the stories to be about "human frailty," or some such, instead of ideas and concepts of future scientific understanding. No, I don't know ANYONE who liked Donna. So PLEASE do not think that you speak for me, my friends, or other long time Doctor Who fans.
ive watched a lot of videos of people complaining about doctor who in 2020... but youre one of the first ive seen to acknowledge the absolute tragedy that is the loss of the old music.
Each to their own. I love both Murray Gold and Segun Akinola, they provide two completely different styles and Segun's style is more in line with traditional composing. He was not hired for his skin colour; he'd done a bunch of British television before this and is a talented composer. However if you prefer Murray's stuff that's completely fine; he is also a legend.
@@connormcrae2907 It could also be a creative decision from the top, removing or not using music that Akinola composed (but that's just speculation). Not familiar with his works but the series 11 really did have barely any music used and more ambient soundscaping over music.
I know John Williams composed over 3 hours of music for the last star wars film but they used almost none of it.
@@ibEscartian interesting point there. Looking at the behind the scenes of Series 12 it seems that Akinola scores a certain amount before receiving an edit, but then scores a bunch of music to time with the edit of the piece. So I reckon there might be some missing tracks, but most of his music is in there. I just find some of his music more fascinating than other people do. Then again play Murray's "The Doctor Forever" and I'll be in love :D
Dont get me wrong, when the new composer was announced i was excitied and optimistic. I feel like the comparison to the new Star Wars films is very apt since i did feel that Murray's themes were being recycled to death after series 4, in the same way that the new star wars trilogy recycled and often misused old musical themes. So i was looking forward to a shake up in Doctor Who music. And i dont have a problem with the direction Akinola took the soundtrack, i just think the way its been implemented into the finished product was completely tone deaf (pun intended). At times it feels like the music in series 11 and 12 has just been applied randomly and arbitarily to the visuals.
I liked the 2020 series except the Timeless Child bit. The series before just kind of sucked. I only liked 3 episodes. But both series suffered from changing the music. I prefer Murray Gold's music and the way you would hear a theme and just know who was coming on screen like with Rose's return during the Dalek attack years ago. He could build anticipation. To me, the music was one of the weakest links of Chibnall taking over.
I liked the 12 exit! He was talking to himself, reminding himself to be The Doctor. It was also infused with Capaldi saying goodbye to his role himself.
Lilly Who agreed! I think Capaldi had the right to this long speech as speeches was his thing. And it was his last scene as The Doctor therefore I think the length of seen was so rightly given to Capaldi. Best Doctor in my opinion 🙂🙃
Lilly Who Wish we had one more season with Capaldi!
Capaldi reminded me of Jon Pertwee, who was "my" Doctor.
It's a pity that Moffat turned Doctor Who into the Clara and her Amazing Friends show.
Jason Clark He WAS reminiscent of the earlier Doctors. What I wouldn’t give to have had one more years with Capaldi. Wish they could erase this last season. New show runner, new Doctor. Let’s have a do over!!!!
Cam Prout yes. He earned that speech. It was one of the best.
Capaldi's speech at the end was my favourite part of his era, it was really good
the heaven sent theme in the background was also amazing
Venom agreed
Wow this was half an hour long. It was actually kinda satisfying how almost everything you said I agreed with and was so dam correct
Especially after what followed
And than After capaldi it gone to drown lol
peter capaldi's run is actually quite beloved now, after 13 people went back and watched 12 and realised actually this is pretty damn good, does the opposite of the previous run as it seemed to gain steam as it went on prrogressively getting better
Not beloved by a lot of the fans where I'm from.
Rómulo Figueroa I agree season 10 was my favorite season in a long time. Probably since season 5 with Matt Smith. I like that Capaldi started out with a stick up his ass and slowly mellowed our and learned how to have fun again. I haven’t actually watched much of the classic series but it seems to mirror the 1st doctors story arc a lot. So when they met in the crossover it felt like the doctors story came full circle.
You either love his run or you hate it. I’m a huge fan of season 9. It’s my 2nd favorite season after 5. I also love a lot of the episodes from 8 and 10. Wish more people liked it :((
@Rómulo Figueroa That's a matter of perspective dude.
I liked him when he was more of an asshole, morally ambiguous. I liked him like he was sort of a old timy grandpa that didn't care about peoples feelings but the endearing kind. But the problem was the writing and companions where the worst
On hindsight, Capaldi's speech is so sad because of what he left us with
...Theyre LITERALLY "not even trying anymore", yes.
Victorian Clara should have stayed for many reasons.
She's different
She's not modern
She's funny!
and it'll be funny to see her being introduced to future tech and planets!
@Hannah Smith i'll remember that...
That I believe would've been way better than what we got.
@Hannah Smith me too ! One of my favorite tardis team was with the 2nd Doctor, Jamie (a compagnon from the past , 18th century scotland) and Zoe (a compagnon from the future, the 21th century - wich was the future in the 60's). I'd really like to see something like that again in New Who explored in a different way maybe
Oh I dunno, they'd probably overdo a companion from the past being amazed by television / smartphones etc, but companions from the present get taken to a spaceship hundreds of years in the future and just go "meh" most of the time.
@@michaelmartin9022 yea
He's going to release more cubes.
You have no idea how happy this makes me.
22:38
I read this comment a few seconds before the end bit happened XD
This is honestly and literally the hardest I have laughed in one year
I would literally prefer the 9th doctor to the female one because the doctor never has a massive loss any more so I think if you change some things you could make doctor who good again say if you made an episode like this (one a cyber ship has been fighting a dalek ship the dalek ships guns are wiped out then the cybermen bord the dalek ship and start killing the daleks but leave one for an experiment the cybermen atempt to convert the dalek but some thing goes wrong thay finish and what is made is a abomination the thing has blood bags hanging of it there is bleeding flesh with iron burnt it to it the thing escapes the cyber ship and goes on a rampage trying to fined the creators of it to kill them it kills a few cyber planers but just can’t get to davros to kill him cut to it killing a cyber planer the doctors ship lands in the same ship the doctor try’s to stop it and dose but one of her companions die and the doctor regenerates). If this would be a bad episode I think it could never be worse than one with some big spider bois in the real world it would be better than any chibnall episode’s and by it I mean the monstrosity.
I know a personal attack on someone really isn't a good argument........but is it just me, or does Chibnall always have a smile that looks like he just farted in an elevator and is just waiting for everyone to notice?
I was going to say that tin that picture of him standing with the Tardis prop behind him, that picture that appears regularly in dr who review videos, he looks like the stereotypical geography teacher who turns out to be a sex offender. I think it's the creepy upturned smile that does it. He does look a bit like Johnathan King. Now that;s creepy. I'm not saying Chris Chibnall is a sex offender, I'm just saying he looks like the stereotypical creepy pervert teacher, that's all.
This comment just gave me a smile that looked like I farted in a elevator 😂
We could treat it as just an observation rather than an attack, then we could all agree on it :D
He IS the fart. But unlike even the worst fart, he has yet to waft away.
That's Rude. . .
But Chibnall is a Slitheen!
I like the monologue before a regeneration. It allows everyone to come to terms with the doctor that will soon be departing and reminisce about the journey they’ve had together.
I dont know, its way to dramatic und schmalzy
Ten "reward" was epic
Try and remember that the very first plays in ancient Greece were monologues and that the first actor ever filmed did a death scene. This death scene was funny because the film ran out before the actor finished dying. Considering these starting points, you have to expect these kinds of scenes. It is also very Shakespearian.
@@berranari1 Try and remember that they also wore masks and performed on the street in ancient Greek theatre, plus that in Shakespeare's time, women were said to not be able to act, so men did all the women's roles, this is why putting random, unrelated facts into a sentence does not add up to causating a monologue before a regeneration scene, because the first Doctor died from being so old in real life, so they needed a new Doctor the Second time.
It then became a feature of the character when changing actors. This has nothing to do with ancient Greek theatre, Tudor Theatre, which did not have women in and was all done in rhymes, or black and white cinema, that was so constrained by the technology of the time. None of those facts have anything to do with plot devices because someone died, wanted more money, or they got someone better in.
@@Oscuros Thanks for the information.
Chibs: "It's not very challenging to watch."
He certainly remedied that.
I rewatched season one recently and it was way less bad than I thought it was. Even the farting green alien episodes weren’t too bad. The second one with the single Slitheen made me emotional somehow??? Absolutely mad, that was. The writing makes up for the disgusting effects. RTD knew how to make a nice, not overly complicated season arc. Miss that.
And Murray Gold. Oh, do I miss Murray Gold.
So you like the Chibnall era because is so simple and politics?
I quit watching after Tom Baker left - I don't like soap opera's.
Strange, I feel the same way. Always hated Series 1, then decided to give Rose (the pilot) a chance years later, and I thought it was incredibly well made on second viewing. Helps to have a new perspective on things.
@@UnchainedEruption I always loved 9th Doctor and 10th is my favorite, but now I'm rewatching 11th now and I like it better then I did before ✨
Dr who absolutely proves what the plan is and the same people who whine about white people engaging in cultural appropriation are the same people who want to replace straight white male characters, first with women and then with blacks or non white blokes, Jodie Whitakker was mot an upgrade she was a downgrade she's not as good an actor and not believable as an intelligent action driven dr
They tested the waters with the master making him missy (who was at least an ok actress) and then that terrible Pakistani bloke who is just awful and then when that passed they replaced Peter (after having his companion tear him down as an old straight white man for over a season) then they have jodie and chibnal shit on the legacy with the timeless child and now they wanna brin tenant back for a bit to crap on his legacy then replace him with a black gay guy
The BBC the scum left media are nothing but a bunch of misandrist racist scumbags a d I hope they burn in hell for trying to destroy the west
Short Answer: Chris Chibnal
Long Answer: Chris Chibnal
Dark Nova
Short answer: Chibs
Long answer: Chriss Chibnal
Short Answer: Chibbster
Long answer: Christopher Antony Chibnall
Short Answer: Chris Chibnal
Long Answer: Chris Chibnall
The quintessential answer really. He's the worst thing to happen to Doctor Who since Mary Whitehouse and John Nathan-Turner.
Long answer:Ccccchhhriiiiiisssss chhhiiiiiibbbbnnnnnaaaallll
Wait so cold blood and hungry Earth is set in 2020. And their about a village ISOLATED from the rest of the world. Chib predicted the future
it's actually set in 2015 lol
Bowties Nope, 2020.
My first though was this is just a rewrite of Doctor Who and The Silurians.
Davies successfully brought back Doctor Who for a new audience, and while the creativity and wackiness is present, the chracters and the cohesive, easy-to-follow writing made it more welcoming to new viewers. A lot of emphasis is put on grounding the characters, and overall it really makes it a balanced viewing experience.
The wackiness and fantastical nature of Moffat's era is what makes it stand out. I loved how crazy and complex the stories were in that era because it fits who The Doctor had become. He's known to the people in universe, he's the president of the world for fuck's sake. It frustrates me when I hear people shit talk about Moffat's over-the-top style of Doctor Who, because Doctor Who is inherently over-the-top. Of course that means the writing quality between episodes is more of a gamble, but it's still incredibly fun and exciting to watch the "shitty" stories.
Chibs's era is completely disjointed and has an utter lack of identity that's been gilded with stunning visuals and effects in order to hide the poor writing, character development, chemistry, and world building. Virtually every plot point from the previous new Who lore from Moffat's and Davies's eras has been reduced to nothing at this point, and it feels very disconnected.
...Amy was good enough,
but with her Flaws (some pointed out around Minute 4 here...) she
was... problematic... tiresome.
@@slevinchannel7589 the flaws of a real young woman id say
@@CreativeCache101 Odd phrasing. Shes meant to be a profesional Actor, even if we ignore ITS A PRESTIGIOUS-AF Roke.
@@CreativeCache101 No Woman i ever knew twets such low-intelligence-opinions.
@@slevinchannel7589 eh? I don't follow, you originally mentioned the flaws in the character but now you're reffering to the actress?
Capaldi did incredibly with the scripts he got. I honestly loved his series', clara was annoying yes, bill far less annoying and pretty good tbh. Heaven sent best episode of doctor who ever. (Yes i have seen it all (like actually all of who))
However, the old Who was in the form of series, not single episodes. I think that works better.
Chibnall: Don't challenge me, fans, because I'm a completely new showrunner. I could bring down your "Doctor Who" with a single word.
Fans: You're the worst writer and showrunner we've ever met, but we don't think you're quite capable of that.
Chibnall: No, you're right. Not a single word, just six.
Fans: We don't think so.
Chibnall: Six words.
Fans: Stop it!
Chibnall: Six.
Chibnall goes over to BBC and shows this:
Chibnal: The Doctor is the timeless child!
Fans: What did he say?
BBC: Oh, well, nothing, really.
Fans: What did he say?
BBC: Nothing. I don't know.
Fans: Chibnall, Chibnall, what did you? What was that? What did he do? What did you say, Chibnall? Chibnall! You stupid...
This is unbelievably clever
@@ProjectPowerPoint Could've been better written, very cliched
@@morningcoffeecat2271 Well at least he has a good chance of writing for Doctor Who nowadays, then.
@@Lucifronz Oof
@@Lucifronz it's a reference to what Chibnall said about a classic doctor who episode in like the 80's or something, back when he was young. It's really ironic XD check it out
Capaldi's regeneration speech was amazing ok..!!! I don't know what you're talking about. Also the Doctor's character development in season 9 makes sense, because at the end of 'Death in Heaven' he realizes he'd been taking himself too seriously, brooding constantly whether he was a good man or not; when he was just an idiot with a box and a screwdriver.... That's why he's not as dark in s9. But we know that in heaven sent and hell bent he does channel his dark obsessive streak, so its not all gone.
Matt Smith speech was better and felt my organic and sincere compared to Capaldi's.
@@MRJDXTRA It's not a competition. Matt Smith and Peter Capaldi were two very different Doctors, and the circumstances of their regeneration were very different. Their respective speeches were a result of where they were mentally. Matt Smith's speech reflected hope as he had very narrowly avoided dying, having been gifted a brand new regeneration cycle at the last moment.
Capaldi's speech on the other hand was more of an acceptance of his inevitable regeneration, when all he actually wanted was to rest and die as himself.
You cannot compare the two speeches and say one is better than the other. They're both beautiful in their own way.
True
@@adwitiyamishra4325 you know what? That response was just beautiful.
He wanted to end capadili like ASAP
Yes season 6 was insane, but i still think its a great season and the timey-wimey convolutedness of the season finale makes sense for the doctors wedding. Yeah the story is a bit confusing but it still was pretty planned out, and River Song is a highlight. I think it continued to introduce new ideas that started with season 5, and I mean it's not like the David tennet era didn't have some absolute wonky stuff either. Idk, I'd probably take season 6 over everything that came after it.
I was fine with everything, until they said that only when river and the doctor touch time continues, and then river touches a robot that looks like him, and time continues... I mean, how easy is it to trick the universe?
The universe wasn't tricked though, it was always the Teselecta that was at the lake, and time was damaged because she failed to do what she was supposed to do in a fixed point, i.e. shoot the robot. I personally loved season 6 for the most part, except for the very end where the fat blue head starts chanting 'Doctor Who?' - that was very cringey.
@@ReactionVideoDotAvi If he was a robot all along, why didn't he came out of the robot after the robot was shot at the first episode of the season? If he would have done it, Rory, Amy and River wouldn't have had to go through his death.
The whole point of the exercise was to fake his death ("I've got too big"), he needed witnesses for that because The Silence wouldn't be able to pass that information to anybody and River wouldn't remember it.
@@ReactionVideoDotAvi Ok, not gonna lie, that makes sanse, but it's really hard to understand that from watching the episode
I loved Eccleston, Tennant was just perfect, Smith was fun and Capaldi was classic and awesome. My favorite companion was DEFINITELY Donna Noble and she was a part of some of the best episodes. When Whittaker took over I was SO disappointed. She didn't have the BADASS "IM THE DOCTOR" moment that thrilled you and made you believe it. I haven't kept up with her version at all. But dreams did come true when I got a group photo with David Tennant, Billie Piper and John Barrowman at Comic Con. Fucking DREAM TEAM photo op.
Meh, Tennant is so melodramatic and annoying pedant
@@mayotango1317 totally agree with you.
I also think that Donna is the best Donna is fun, intelligent, has better motivs other than LOVE INTEREST FOR THE DOCTOR!
I actually really loved both Eccleston and Capaldi’s doctors. Both of them felt like I would imagine a immortal time traveler who has watched everyone they love die, they felt grizzled and somewhat cynical.
I liked Eccleston because his character really did embody the “Emotionally Damaged” aspect to the doctor that the Time War brought about.
You can tell that he is struggling with his own grief.
I liked Capadli because he was a nice change up from the “Suave, Eccentric, good looking bloke with a time machine” and embraced a more cynical snarky approach that changed things up.
He is still one of my favorite Doctors, even though they botched his writing quite a lot. I think my favorite arc of all time was time loop arc. There are definitely plot wholes in that story, but it really fits the stubborn hatred that Capaldi’s doctor is so good at.
Edit: I kind of wish they would take them selves a little bit more seriously. It could honestly do with a little bit more heavier tones.
Matt Smith was great and all, but it seems like every season since his debut has tried entirely too hard to keep things lighthearted. A little bit more grim and emotionally realistic writing would be nice.
I thought Capaldi brought that to his seasons, and I loved him for it. You don't live damn near forever in a state of intermittent chaos and personal fragmentation without part of your character going very dark indeed. Too much loss will do that to you.
Capaldi’s dying speech still inspires me to this day and very emotional, Moffat for all his faults wrote that scene beautifully. As for Matt Smiths run it was actually good. Series 1O with Bill was one of the best series of new Who. How jaded are you mate?
I also loved Capaldi’s opening theme
@Johanns Rogers I agree
Nothing with Matt Lucas in has ever been one of the best anythings. Fullstop, mate.
Damn, I agree and can't stand the hate on it. I think the crisis of the 12th really make sense and is actually heartbreaking and beautifull. And music... Sheperds boy or Clara tracks are great
I honestly loved the Capaldi Era like it was really good especially with Bill
While the quality was waning during the Capaldi era, I still loved Capaldi's tenure. I just wish Capaldi had been one of RTD's doctors. Imagine that!
Debonaire Nerd What’s RTD?? Capaldi was my favorite.
yasss i love his doctor
"Waning down" Please, Twelve had his bad moments, but so did any of the RTD-era Doctors. Twelve had some of the best dialogue and scenes in the show, and his last finale was one of the best Cybermen stories in the history of Doctor Who.
Darren Hubbard Russel T Davies
Capaldi is a good actor, but he got rotten stories, although not nearly as horrific as lately.
But then the cubes start counting dow... MY GOD DUDE. MY GOD.
Just as I was about to say it...
I know this is two years old, and I haven’t even finished the video yet, but I want to clarify that Clara was supposed to be the Victorian one. BBC made him do it as her in the modern day instead.
The war doctor was supposed to be 9, but Chris wouldn’t come back.
It’s very possible other things were derivative of BBC or production issues and not Moffat.
Edit: Cube Emperor’s actor was notoriously difficult to work with. He wouldn’t film the ending as intended and continued to cause problems. He left the project after filming what we saw and they couldn’t go back and get a new actor because it was too late into the process. So they had to change the entire ending to fit with what they had already filmed.
Steven Berkoff seems like a total asshole. Or maybe he just realised that he signed up for a Chris Chibnall script and decided "fuck this!"
tbh i don’t see why paul mcgann couldn’t have just been in the 50th if eccleston refused (although i do like john hurt’s performance)
@@Creek932 Moffat wanted McGann as a backup, but the BBC wanted someone with more star power.
Cant exactly blame eccleston for not coming back after how they shafted him
Yeah, it was a smart idea they didn't use the Victorian Clara. . .
Tough enough explaining things like time dilation to a modern audience.
Trying to explain some of the high concepts to the audience, threw an 18th century victorian lens, would have gotten real old, real fast.
I truly liked Capaldi's Doctor.
I agree with a lot in this video, but not on Series 10. It's my third favourite and I think one of the show's best. Capaldi is one of the best Doctors and sorely underrated
Aidan -- Not by everyone. Moffat and Capaldi between them meant to grow the Doctor up, and they did, which was lovely for some older fans (like me), but upset many other fans. Capaldi's run is, at base, all about death, loss, and the recognition of a certain degree of futility (which is kind of what getting old brings with it), so for some of us who were going through that ourselves in our later lives, Capaldi was -- damn near perfect. I can understand why younger fans (in years, and maybe at heart) found that upsetting and hard to connect with.
I loved capaldi so much. Oh and missy. The. Best. Master. EVER.
I loved her character so much...i cried when she died...
Completely agree. It was a great return to form, and while the second half wasn’t as strong, I’d never was bad (except Pyramid at the End of the World) World Enough & Time more than makes up for it!
I don't care what anyone says, i love series 5 and 6, even parts of 7, you cant take away my love for Matt Smith as The Doctor. However I do agree that series 7 was weaker compared to its predecessors.
Seriously? I thought Season 7 was better.. It wrapped up the Long overdue end of the Ponds and Clara/Eleven and the Impossible arc brought in Some freshness to the show in my eyes
I love Matt too.
@@GLBizzie Clara in S7 was basically Amy 2.0, but without any of the growth Amy/Rory had experienced over the years with the Doctor. Not really that fresh.
Season 7 was the first time when I wasn't excited to continue watching...
I really miss the “golden age” of the show. I thought it was cool that you call it the same thing that I do. The show just doesn’t have the same feel that it used to under Russel T Davies. I still the love the show and will probably follow it as long as it continues or for the rest of my life. But I doubt I’ll ever look back as fondly on another era of Doctor Who.
My thoughts exactly! Never did I laugh, cry and yearn to join them as much as during seasons 1 to 4. The whole dynamic between the doctor and his companions....beautiful.
It certainly was. I really enjoyed the Moffat era too (which might turn out to be an unpopular opinion in this comment section...) but I grew up on the Davies era. The nostalgia is strong with that one :)
A. R. D. Thorne I certainly did enjoy the Moffat era. Matt Smith did a great job as the Eleventh Doctor (although Tennant is my favorite), it was mainly the writing I had problems with. It took me a while to get used to new feel to the show and the new doctor when I first watched season 5 because I was still in grief over the lose of ten but looking back that is a pretty solid season, probably the best in elevens era. However season 6 and 7 pretty much made no sense because they were both giant plot holes. I liked what Moffat was trying to go for with the grand twisting mysterious plots however there was never any payoff because there was rarely an explanation that made sense. I think he was a bit too ambitious and kept digging himself into a hole. On top of that I think there was definitely more character development overall in the RTD era and they were treated better overall. I also enjoyed the time with Peter Capaldi as well and unlike others was actually convinced that there was real character development under his run. Some of it happens off screen so you have to read between the lines a bit but still.
the golden era was also not due to the best time for Doctor Who, but also a great universe with Torchwood and TSJA, now theres none of that, just a poor shell of one show that was once great
Sorry but the RTD era is just like Chibnall but with gay agenda and soap opera elements with stereotype families and angry mothers.
The treatment of Rory and Mickey always bothered the shit out of me. Despite all their work and devotion, they were mocked, cucked and considered completely disposable by both the Doctor and their girlfriends. Just try to imagine the reverse, you can't. If the Doctor or any other guy on Dr.Who treated women in that way, they would NEVER get to be the hero of a show like this.
Mickey at least ended up with 10 loving him like a brother. 9 was in a lot of pain and very jealous/envious, so he put Mickey down to build himself up. But 10 was always so excited to see him and wanted the best for him, and part of that was guilt that he and Rose had fallen for each other.
Amy's infatuation with the Doctor is very obviously a result of the disconnect from reality and probable abandonment issues she gained as the girl who waited, it detracts from her likability at first sure but it's not without reason. By episodes 6/7 of S5, we see Amy make it irrefutably clear she'd choose a life with Rory over a life in the TARDIS. Rory then gets used to really put the Doctor in his place and remind him how mortal the companions are, like the episode where our original Amy basically dies, or even back in Vampires of Venice where he first sees the dangers of space and time. I mean look, Gladiator Rory holding a baby is fucking awesome and even I knew he'd grown as a man, watching S7 debut at 8 years old. The Doctor and Rory making peace struck me as a really great unspoken display of positive masculinity, two people introduced in less than positive circumstances but united by a person they both cared for very deeply, and being mature and graceful enough to put those things aside to enjoy a true companionship. Rory and the Doctor's relationship is an evolution on the Rose/10/Mickey dynamic, where the Doctor can instead take upon the role of friend and supporter instead of being an intruder in the TARDIS Trio triangle, it's a relationship born of pure connection, no premeditated romantic or sexual goals, just respect and chemistry.
This is the problem with only old men writing the show. I don’t think just men are bad writers, lots of women writers suck too. But i think they need more writers. I love capaldi as the doctor and he deserved better
After basically having Rose stolen from him, I was happy to see Mickey ended up marrying someone equally hot like Martha in the end.
Rory to me was a better companion than Amy. He asked questions he was active. He would rather help people who were injured than just stare wistfully at the doctor. Amy didn’t even ask questions she was just there to blindly, admire everything the dr did.
I loved season 9! The two parters, the back to basics style, the theme of Clara being “addicted” to Doctor adventures as tragic escapism, and the way they portrayed the Doctor works for me.
But it took a complete redesign of the characters. They basically rewrote Clara. And it works, I like Clara in season 9, but she’s basically a different character.
Awww cmon. The Capaldi regeneration was a little sweet at least. Moffat's hokey moralizing can be really fun.
Season 7 was the worst. Not cause of Clara but because of
A)trash writing
B)The 11th Doctor is.. rubbish
C) terrible villains
D)more bad writing imo
Personally I believe the Capaldi era was better than the Matt Smith era
A) Capaldi is a way better doctor
B) Moffat's writing is at its best
C)the companions are better, as in they have more personality than the Smith era companions
D) Capaldi era is more emotional than Smith era
Still no one will ever beat David Tennant and Russel T Davies. David was and ALWAYS will be the best doctor ever and Russel is so amazingly talented and by far the best showrunner since 1963 imo.
@@tristansteinbomer3256 you have to be joking right?
Have you even seen the original 1963 show?
The RTD era might be popular but to argue it's in anyway true to the original vision in the show is so disingenuous and lacks any factual baking.
RTD era was a soap opera featuring the teen romance novel transplant version of the Doctor.
Cluster fuck stories like Last of the Time Lords, Journey's End, or the most insulting to the shows entire legacy "The End of Time". Are just as bad and in many ways worse.
There was no objective decline in quality, you're just biased by your nostalgia.
@@tristansteinbomer3256 clueless mate, Matt smith and David tennant r the best 2 doctors
@@jameshayden24 not clueless, I'm my own person, not like another
“ I materialised the time capsule around you one second before your ship exploded and saved your life but keep crying”
“MY BROTHER JUST DIED”
“But his sister didn’t, you’re welcome”
God I love peter capaldi
Amy was good enough,
but with her Flaws (some pointed out around Minute 4 here...) she
was... problematic... tiresome...
The series died after Capaldi
Maybe it's just in hibernation, for a while. I hope, anyway . . .
I want to think of it as "the trip"
Where the show tripped.
I like to believe that the Doctor did die during that explosion.
It became a zombie version of itself. And zombies are really really really boring.
Capaldi didn’t regenerate, he had a sex change.
Yes in the end: we all liked to point at all moffat's mistake, because It was too complicated, because some didn't like Clara, or some of the episode were not good enough, or wethever you want. But then Chibnall came. And OH STEPHEN WE MISS YOU SO MUCH. (By the way, I Always loved moffat)
Same, I'm honestly surprised that this person likes series 8 but doesn't like 9 and 10. I was definitely the same opinion as him about the declining quality of series 6 and 7. But just because character development happens off-screen doesn't make it not believable. At the end of series 8, the Doctor accepts that he doesn't need to try so hard to be "good" and can relax a bit. Thus, after a time skip, we see him relaxed and letting loose. Similarly, Clara lost Danny after series 8, and he was basically the only thing tying her to Earth. She already had "addiction issues" to travelling with the Doctor. So without Danny, and perhaps as part of her grief, she becomes increasingly reckless and self-destructive.
I also liked series 8 more than 9 or 10, but I wouldn't by any means say the latter two were bad. But I'm on the "Hell Bent was good, actually" side so we'll never see eye-to-eye.
I think he was the best storyteller in the new Who era. Since Jodie Foster it is just Dr. Woke for me and after watching 10 minutes into the 60s special I decided for myself, that Dr. Who ended with Cabaldi.
Peter Capaldi was such a good step in the right direction.
Thats why the ratings Dropped with him (no hate, it's just fact)
@@DasKame no hate, but “that’s why”… ok
@@DasKame it’s Bc they relied heavily on the hot young doctor for 10 years. It made me stop watching. But i loved capaldi
@@diabloakland What else could they rely on?
The 2005 reboot never had good ideas or scripts like the real show has.
To me, Capaldi's regeneration speak is the best moment in modern era, it's so touching and representative of everything the doctor is.
This American sounding guy just doesn't get it. It is weird that he likes Dr Who at all. I am guessing that he likes to criticize things. Dr Who is what it is. It was never a grand production nor was it about superb acting.
I never liked Dr Who when I was a kid, I only got into it when I was much older. I am guessing that this guy was the other way around.
I liked Star Wars and Spider-Man, when I was a kid, not Dr Who.
I haven't seen Dr Who in the last 2 years, but I liked most of what I've seen of it. I liked Eccleston, Tennant, Smith and Capaldi. It is cool that this series has gone on for so long.
Despite what I said the guy is a huge Dr Who fan.
I recommend the video he made ranking all the Dr. Who versions.
'Donna and Martha were the best companions.'
Correct.
Series 8 Capaldi was stuffy and uncomfortable, came off too much like he was playing a role. Series 9-10 version is actually likeable and authentic. They tried to make the Twelfth Doctor like Capaldi's character Malcolm Tucker in The Thick of It, but that's clearly not how Capaldi wanted to play the role. You can see in Series 9 and 10 he seems a lot more comfortable as The Doctor.
Theyre LITERALLY "not even trying anymore", yes.
Peter Capaldi isn't as good an actor as the fans make him out to be. People try to deflect blame onto either Clara or the writing instead of just acknowledging that Capaldi himself was the problem. For his entire first season and a good chunk of his second, he wasn't the Doctor. He was a fanboy PLAYING the Doctor and often came across as the Valeyard instead, which would have been fine if they'd brought Michael Jayston back in Season 8 to parallel Capaldi's sociopathic portrayal. Unfortunately, they didn't ask Jayston to reprise his role and if you don't know about the Valeyard's existence, Capaldi being a sociopathic arsehole makes no sense. John Hurt, supposedly the darkest Doctor, never came across as sociopathic and was a better Doctor in one episode than Capaldi was in his entire debut season. Even Colin Baker, who gets a lot of shit from the fanbase, could balance out his sociopathic moments with his flamboyant demeanour and I'm probably one of the only people who thinks that John Nathan Turner actually made the right decision by giving Baker such a ridiculous costume. I know Baker himself disagreed but it's a testament to his talent as an actor that his hatred for the costume was never visible in his performances. He swaggered around in it like it was the most normal thing in the world which really helped to emphasise that the Doctor is an alien. Capaldi's more minimal dress sense made him look like a normal human, so his sociopathy and social awkwardness didn't come across as alien or even as someone on the autism spectrum, something that Matt Smith could pull off in his sleep. Capaldi came across like any other man who has an antisocial personality disorder and his social awkwardness felt like an excuse to justify his behaviour. Because of Matt Smith and Colin Baker's dress sense combined with their larger than life personas, they actually came across as either an alien or at least an autistic person.
Ironically, I think Capaldi being a lifelong fan was actually part of the problem. He was so terrified of getting the Doctor wrong after dreaming of getting the role for 5 decades that his insecurity bled through into his performance. To compensate, he tried to throw together as many previous Doctors as possible, including the Valeyard, and hoped that it would work. The problem with that approach is that you would require an actor of Laurence Olivier's calibre to combine 13 personalities into a cohesive whole whilst also bringing something new to the table. Capaldi is certainly no Olivier and frankly, I think even Olivier would have been spreading himself too thin if he attempted such a feat. There were simply too many Doctors for one person to juggle and without having a split personality disorder to explain it, I doubt any performer could pull it off.
Heaven Sent is one of my favourite episodes. It would be amazing if they did a season where it the doctor was by himself. He just turns up to situation to meet new people and solve the problem such as the special season that tenant had.
Heaven Sent was the very best! Need better writing....
Blink! But Heaven sent was amazing, top episode. Capaldi just being the doctor, alone and a great director, as pointed out by the producer of the video, the Master of Whovians : )
Damn it man, I've been watching Doctor who since 1983 and I never even thought about the fact that the Doctor always meets the Master in chronological order.
The last few moffat series were a bit all over the place, but you know what they still were as well? Fun!
They weren't the best, but they were always fun, bright and refreshing. Say what you like about clara, but she's quite a good character, even if the writing wasn't the best ever. And season ten was just ... shit ... but i have a feeling most of it was due to bbc's agenda.
Now Chibbs era? It's dark, grey, cringy and has terrible writting beyond comprehension, with a doctor that doesn't know who she is.
You had me until you defended Clara. She is by far the worst New Who companion.
@@4203105 she hardly the worst modern doctor who companion
I kinda agree, but I didn’t find the Moffat series to be fun, it was downright confusing and it’s what ultimately made me lose interest in the show, I tried to give it another chance with Capaldi and Whitaker, whatever her name is, but now like you said, it’s just too cringy and has terrible writing
@@manufacturedfromabove79 I guess Jazz and Ryan might be worse. So let me rephrase that: she used to be by far the worst New Who companion till Chibnall took over.
@@4203105 i don't really watch chibnall era so i don't know much about those two still clara can't be that bad i still during season 9
I agree with all of this, man. Everything about Doctor Who right now pisses me off. The directing, acting, scripts, music... even the dumb 2:1 aspect ratio. Literally unwatchable, far too cringey. It's weird to think that RTD will be the pinnacle of New Who. I always thought someone would come along, build on his solid groundwork and one-up him. Instead every new series puts RTD's era in an ever better light by comparison. The BBC should grow a pair, cancel the show and bring it back when they've found a creative team with any talent to speak of.
Sacha dhawan was the only great actor.
Special Agent Kingston did you not like moffats era?
@@Brandon.Reacts i can't talk for him, but he never said that he didn't like it, just that RTD's was better, which in my opinion is also true. I liked all of the seasons in both eras but I prefer RTS's one.
4->3->2->5->6->8->10->1->7->9. Change my mind. (This is both quallity and enjoyment)
@Michael F Thanks :) but the start of the list is a preety popular opinion. just the 2nd half is more unpopular...
I know some of those seasons are objectivly better then others, but I rated them based on my enjoyment from them.
@@timrosswood4259 Yeah, him and Jodie (and Stephen fry of course) were the only talents. I just wish they'd give 13 another chance, but not under Chibnall.
funnily enough in "Kerblam" Yaz and Ryan were... good. Good! Yaz shows compassion at the end, and suddenly Mandip has talent. Ryan is a different and better personality, not a plot device, and Tosin shines. That's how important the lead writer is in a show.
3:26
I know it's not for everyone, but Big Finish does explain this in the Diary's of River Song. Missy can't kill River because she knows that River is a complicated space time event, since she influences lives out of order. Missy then scolds her saying she always tries to be consistent with The Doctor's timestream, which would make sense. The Master is evil, but he/she isn't an idiot, they know that causing those types of paradoxes could be dangerous, even to themselves, and since the Master most of the time has a TARDIS it would make sense that he/she can have a better reading on the Doctor's timeline, unlike River who when she sends messages for him she can't control which version gets the message
Yeah I know nobody gives a shit, I'm just a fuckin nerd
I give a shit, man. I give a shit.
I give 2 shits, bro. That actually makes some sense tbf
I give 3 shits
Something that gets fixed outside the tv show shouldn't count, and I say this as a fan of the audiobooks and other Doctor Who media.
The thing that bugged me about season 6 was the lack of consequences. Rory should have had much more intimate knowledge of the past 2,000 years of history than the doctor, with some really odd gaps in his history because he spent those two millennia guarding the big box of Amy.
Another example, after spending 2 hours explaining to us that 'gangers are alive, the very first thing the Doctor does is murder Amy's 'ganger.
BBC: doesn't care if people reupload the intros and upload mini episodes
Also BBC: lets copyright a guy who edited it for laughs
This was really interesting! I think the strongest era was series 4 although my favourite was series 5 :)
same
Series 5 was the golden era
@@Brandon.Reacts I would have to agree :D
Seasons 3-5 were unbeatable
@@qayyuma9622 That was such a great era for Doctor Who! Totally agree :D
What you failed to realize is that steven moffat didn't lose his talent, as shown in that episode you loved so much. He has the talent, he just can't be fucked to actually write something good because he didn't care. When he wants to make something good, he can.
Right. The problem with Moffat is a typical artist problem; he's very imaginative and quirky, but he has no filter, he struggles to give half a shit about pacing, consistency, canon, logic. He invents cool new aliens for one episode, and immediately pisses on all the rules he himself invented in the next episode. He's like a very imaginative child telling a story that goes from tigers to space aliens to pirates to wizards. Even jokes; Moffat would have an entire stupid scene, shit on lore, confuse the audience, all as a setup to a terrible goddamn joke. He did okay under Russel T. Davies because, I presume, as head-writer, Davies had the power to edit and veto Moffat's work. But once he got full control on his own and they got through the episodes he had probably at least drafted while under Davies, he went off the rails. Davies, meanwhile, was probably a little stodgy and conservative. Moffat was a good influence on him to push the boundaries, but Davies still kept the show mostly true to the old series (I'm sure David Tennant, a fanatic for the classic series, also had influence--I know he got them to change the credits).
The problem with Moffat was he wasn't a show runner, he was better at writing one off stories where he could dedicate his time to it. Then saying that his stories always seemed out of place in RTDs Doctor Who, esp the library double where he must have known he was taking over from RTD. Moffats best season was his first as well, less layer upon layer of over done story arc tripe,, once series 6 started it became an absolute mess only saved by the other writers with their decent episodes. By the time Capaldi came in it was so ridiculous even the yanks switched it off.
TheRebel lets all not forget that Moffat also had to check with RTD when writing an episode to make sure a character wasn’t out of place or something or doing something RTD feels they wouldn’t do. It wasn’t all Moffat.
I would have loved if Capaldi's regeneration was silent. As he has nobody left he would simply reflect on his past with possibly a few flashbacks to show what he's thinking. Imagine the shots being far back and empty with nothing but the Doctor sitting alone.
Most importantly, the regeneration should have been different to all the other ones.
You mean like most of the anime characters? No thanks.
Dont get me wrong i like anime but not flashbacks please. Just keep him talking like a doctor
I thought the monologue was very fitting for Capaldi's regeneration. Because if there's one thing his doctor was good at, it was monologueing.
fair enough guys, although the monologue's a little forgettable to me. While I loved Capaldi era I remember Smith's regeneration speech word for word, and he didn't even stick with me as much. Maybe his was too long? I don't know, I spitball ideas a lot
Honza Šenbauer I haven't actually seen anime in a decade ngl
That’s something I never thought of, while I really love capaldi monologuing that would have been super fitting for what was happening in the doctors mind.
I would rather watch Love and Monsters than a Chibnall era episode.
Haha i liked that Episode Anyway
It's so unfair, they really did Capaldi dirty with his run, I love him as the Doctor and as an actor, his commitment to the character was there and his debut had promise but Moffat couldn't help but screw it up. I was gutted at his regeneration because I was losing interest when I knew how emotional the scene should be, but his last series had just driven me away from the show so much that I couldn't hold on to it.
Series 9 and 10 were both great.
Series 11 and 12 feels so empty and cold I can’t describe it
Flat, I'd say, as if the whole thing had had a vital dimension omitted. Weird.
It's no longer bigger on the inside
It wasnt as much Amy
as it was Rory... I always liked him more.
Amy was good enough,
but with her Flaws (some pointed out around Minute 4 here...) she
was... problematic... tiresome...
Capaldi is my favourite doctor lol
Aidan Milford Same.
Same
Same
Aidan Milford Mine as well. He was coming into his own by the time he left. The perfect doctor.
Aidan Milford same
The Modern era gave us four of the best doctors there’s been, nine, ten, eleven and twelve - twelve and nine excelled without the the calibre of writing that the other two had. Also the music? *hells yes*
Hang on, you're claiming Nine had worse writing than Ten and Eleven? I'm afraid I wholeheartedly disagree. Series one is fantastic and has some of the strongest episodes of the entire revived show. The characterization of the Doctor and Rose is incredibly compelling, as is their developing relationship across the series. Everything is so wonderfully set up and delightfully paid off, the character's have clear journeys, and it's got a sense of freshness to it. Even Aliens of London/World War Three, despite the farting Aliens, has better written character drama than anything from Chibnall's run. It also has the best RTD finale, whereas the others would lean too heavily on contrived deus ex machinas. If Doctor Who had been cancelled after that first series, it would still have been an incredible piece of television.
@@JackWolf10 s1 had 5 episodes that were brilliant, probably some of the best who ever written, however (imo) it didn’t have the consistency of series 3,4 or 5.
@@JackWolf10 series 1 is amazing but lots of episodes are kinda boring
I always had my criticisms of the show after the RTD era but the one thing I could never criticise it of being was boring. Moffat never managed to sink that low. Thanks Chibnall though, you finally achieved the unachievable.
The doctor being inside the suit in season 6 was always going to happen, that was the fixed point in time not his actual dying.
literally everything you said is true. I have been a fann of the show since 9 and i have not felt such disappointment of doctor who until s 11. and the fact that you mentioned Murray Gold leaving is so true. It actually makes such a difference and i never realised until you mentioned it. Keep up the good work bro
Yeah, Donna and Martha are probably the best companions of New Who, although I'd put Rory up there too.
I've always thought Rory was kind of underrated
Caitlin Khong Really? Back in the day people hyped the shit out of Rory lmao
Amy,rory and river song were best companions i hated the jodie whittaker companions cuz they dont listen
Mmmmmmmmm Martha.
Hated Martha. Another in love with the doctor companion ...
To be fair, the story of the cubes episode is really just a backdrop for exploring The Doctor's need for companions, namely the Ponds, and how he always needs to be doing something regardless of how silly it may be.
But still, the episode really dropped the ball with the pay off at the end on the alien ship, the message there was just your shallow 'human perseverance' run of the mill stuff, it didn't play into the personal struggle The Doctor was dealing with throughout the entire episode. They tried to lampshade what they had done with the series up to that point, make a fair statement on their own work during the last run with the 11th Doctor, but they completely failed to come up with anything to say at all.
Theyre LITERALLY "not even trying anymore", yes...
Imagine you didn't watch Doctor Who and you see the part where a Slitheen says 'I need to be naked' because he's wearing a human flesh suit that's too small for him
I may be alone in this but I always saw the 12th doctor personality change in series 9 a mix of mid life crises with the fact that he thought he might die soon so he was like "whatever lets party" and kind of mellowed out in series 10. I do wish we got more of the 12th doctor from series 8.
I love Series 9. It is so epic, looks amazing and has some great stories.
I honestly think that series 9 is the best in the modern Who quality wise. Yes, there was that one stupid episode with rheum monster, first return to Gallifrey was completely wasted on Clara (though idea of a person having invincibility due to their death being already predetermine is kinda cool) and Clara probably should've left in x-mas special, but other then that every episode was rather strong. I could gather way more complaints against series 1-4 and 7-8.
I literally prefer the 9th doctor to the female one I’m not sexist it’s the writing is terrible and the scripts are just cringy and I think the female doctor could be good but they sqewd it up now the doctor he has to have a massive lose for the doctor because now he just never has a lose like get rid of a main companion (if I were gonna make a doctor who episode I would make the it start in a space conflict with the daleks go agenst the cyberman then the cyberman bord the dalek ship then the cybermen kill most of the daleks but thay convert one and it is a abomination it has blood bags hanging of it and instead of it wanting to kill everyone it try’s to kill the cyber planners and dravros for creating him he kills a few cyber planers but the doctor comes in and distroys the monstrosity but the cyber ship there on gets damaged and a conpanion of the doctor dies leave the doctor in a state of dipression for a few episodes on). If it seems bad I think it would be better than an episode about some big spidey bois
Series 1-5 and half of 6 were great the rest was absolutely horrific cringe overcomplicated and just plain crap
I loved Peter Cipaldi's Doctor and when rewatching the show I got genuinely giddy when his first episode was coming up. It was my first regeneration so I got to see the new doctor the same time everyone else was. and I understood him and wanted to see more from him.
Two things I'd get rid of/replace
1) let's forget everything and anything to do with 13... Let's just forget 13 was even a thing...
2) make unit more like the classics
Yes, retcon that whole season. Even though I like Graham, his wife Grace and even Ryan somewhat.
Living History
Marvel UK Reset/Reboot, But i'm just dreaming of S.T.R.I.K.E/U.N.I.T Otherworld,
Captain Britain & Helicarriers
@@druunderwood5602 You mean bring back the Marvel UK imprint? That would be great if they could get the rights to reprint some of their older strips.
Hey if they do erase history and sweep everything after Series 9 under the rug, I would actually consider watching a new Doctor Who episode again.
@@UnchainedEruption Nah, just all of the Chibnall trash. Throw it out. Never happened. That's 11, 12 and the soon to be 13. All of it in the dumpster where it belongs and fire Chibnall as well. Hire someone who's not a self-loathing SJW.
Steven Moffat writes terrific episodes, wonderful scenes, and beautiful moments. What he cannot do is write a good series arc. The "twist" to Sherlock leaping from the building was ridiculous enough to kill the series, even if it hobbled on for another six or seven episodes. The Pandorica, plastic Rory and the Impossible Girl were all total drivel and made no sense, though I admit I enjoyed the crossing of the Amy/River Song arcs, the Silence and most of that series, the silly rabbit-out-of-the-hat outwitting time itself nonsensical climax notwithstanding.
Series 9 - especially the three two-parters - was the pinnacle for me, and had it ended on the peerless Heaven Sent and his return to Gallifrey would have been hailed as the best ever, bar none. Sadly the tremendous build-up was squandered on the resurrection of Clara, or at least the avoidance of giving her what had been a moving and meaningful death.
Peter Capaldi's acting was stellar throughout his tenure and his chemistry with the amazing Michelle Gomez a wonder to behold. For me they were the finest iterations of their respective characters in the show's history and the pay-off to their twin character developments in (the otherwise disappointing) series 10 was superb.
The Chibnall era started with a damp squib and slopped on from there, but with series 12 has degenerated into a farcical, intelligence-insulting, toxic mess. As I write this there are growing fears COVID-19 may ultimately trigger the fall of human civilisation as we know it, but if it puts paid to another series of Chibnall's Who then... y'know... difficult call.
2005 - The Bronze Years
2006 - The Bronze Years
2007 - The Silver Years
2008 - THE GOLDEN YEARS
2009 - THE GOLDEN YEARS
2010 - THE GOLDEN YEARS
2011- THE GOLDEN YEARS
2012 - The Silver Years
2013 - The Silver Years
2014 - The Silver Years
2015 - The Silver Years
2016 - The Bronze Years
2017 - THE GOLDEN YEARS
2018 - The meh years....
2019 - What happened to Doctor Who?
2020 - I dont want to watch the show anymore
Oh, and I will add one more thought; I think another problem with the new show, from literally the first episode onwards, is the obsession with The Doctor. I know that sounds weird, but in the original show, The Doctor was almost never known or recognized in the slightest, except by fellow Time Lords, his recurring enemies, and a few recurring characters. There are exceptions, like when Colin Baker went to a planet and they revealed that Jon Pertwee and Jo had been there before, but generally, he's a nobody. Even in Battlefield, he only barely got recognized by UNIT, by ONE guy who happened to remember hearing about him. The new show won't stop masturbating over their character; s/he just has to be amazing. He's everywhere, everywhen. Moffat went nuts with this; like, every planet has the word "Doctor" because of his influence, and signals thanking him are so strong and numerous they black out radio communication on earth in that one finale. We had the Doctor stare down Rassallon TWICE, while in the original show he met him once, was rather deferential, and moved on. And of course the stakes are routinely of earth-shattering importance instead of just being a cool story. He's super space Jesus at this point; even his fucking name was made out to be the most amazing secret in all of creation...TWICE! AGAIN! I get that this all has a superficial cool factor, but now it's just become standard to constantly make episodes purely about the Doctor's awesomeness, instead of episodes with the Doctor being awesome. In fact, while Moffat was incessantly talking about the Doctor's amazaballsness, he was writing the most incompetent Doctor; constantly fucking up, getting things wrong, and then winning because of a deus ex machina, usually his magic wand, I mean, sonic screwdriver...that can now project green energy fields to fend off blue energy fields that almost literally looks like Dumbledore and Voldmort locked in combat. Just...show, don't tell. The Doctor is awesome, just let him/her be awesome, we don't need entire episodes, entire arcs, about his awesomeness warping the very fabric of fucking reality.
Your completly right and even the doctor realises this by saying at the end of season 6 I became to big it’s time I step back into shadows then tries to delete himself from records
To be fair, how often has the Master "died" and returned later with no explanation? I'd say it's relatively in keeping with the character that Missy surviving and regenerating into Sacha Dhawan's Master is left ambiguous. For instance, Anthony Ainley's Master gets incinerated in Planet of Fire and then reappears in Mark of the Rani a few years later with no explanation as to how he survived Planet of Fire
But then he reappears at the end of the series with no explanation as to how he escaped that alien world.
Still, the Doctor doesn't even mention it. No questions about Missy leaving 12, nothing.
glowing mash and beans exactly
@@dracopug Well, to he fair, I don't think they explained how the master got to the cyberman ship in s10, or how missy got from there to earth in s8...
I hope it will turn out that this Dhawan's master is an earlier incarnation. It would be really sad if Chibnall had just thrown out Missy's completely.
3:32 there's actually something in the deep dr who lore that prevents this, that timelords CAN'T meet people out of order, it's something to do with their mastery of timetravel, and with regards to Gallifrey you can't leave gallifrey, spend 10 years away and return a second later. 10 years will always have passed. I'm not a geek honest.
I like the concept of Clara, but she stayed a season too long. Had she left at the end of 8 she would have been great.
Bill and Nardole I felt were a good double act with the doctor, and missy was a great master. Just generally I think with Companions the David Tennant era got it right with changing compaions each season. All the companians were different and all brought a different energy.
Hell Bent was amazing. As good as if not better than Blink. I also liked the end of series 10.
I havn't watched much series 11; a female doctor isn't necessarily a bad thing, any more than a Black doctor would be, but the writing is not quite as good as and Jodie Whiticaker seems a bit miscast imo.
You almost needed a Joanna Lumley type figure I feel.
I agree that Clara should’ve left at the end of season 8 and it wouldn’t of even been a hard thing to script in
@@Leakedloki I think it might have been interesting to have her leave at the end of series 8 but return for a few appearances in series 9 (sort of like Martha in series 4) to fully send off her character. With the way series 8 ends, I think Clara's story would feel a little unfinished if she was gone for good after that.
Jake D'Amour yeh you roght
I LOVED DONNA!! Catherine Tate is SOOO funny and a very good actor. I've rewatched her stint as the companion more than any of the others.
I will admit that I have very limited knowledge of Doctor Who but I have been coming back to this video and the sequel because I find this really funny and right up my sense of humour. So thank you for putting a smile on my face for the past few days with these videos :)
The emperor kills 1/3 of humans
Thanos: hold my beer
*Shakri uses laser eyes*
"The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural..."
I really felt that season 10 was a nice return to form, things like smile I think really work well with their concepts and just because the word emoji is used doesn’t make it cringe and the only thing the episode does wrong in my opinion is a rushed ending , also I disagree with what you say about the regenerations.
Yeah I liked that it's set up with "what aspect of language has survived over thousands of years." I hate to have to explain the joke, but the script is aware that "it speaks emoji" is cringe. However, there's no denying that emoji are simple hieroglyphics that will be around as long as humans have faces, so the feeling of the scene is "ugh, of course it speaks emoji."
Thank you for making this, now people will understand what I couldn't come up with the words to describe how bad doctor who got.
1. The season 12 soundtrack composition is AWFUL.
2. It feels more like a Netflix Original than a classic TV show.
3. There is no emotion or meaningful story arch to the show whatsoever; overall and each individual episode.
You hit the nail on the head and your roasts are spot on, I lol'd.
The music selection in this is class
Bro you lost me at "Bill Potts is fine I guess." Literally stopped watching there. I agree with like 70% of what you're saying, but I suspected you might be conflating "how do I feel about it" with "how was it developed." Bill should've been 12's companion from day one, I loved their chemistry. And Clara, as you said, was a sloppily written character, but Jenna Coleman's amazing and her commitment to her performance and her charisma were enough to make me forgive more than I should have. And that's Doctor Who in a nutshell, if the charisma carries it for you, let it lull you. I don't deny most of what you've said, but I think that's coming from a place that accepted what you're bemoaning a while ago, so Doctor Who is just a thing I understand will often disappoint is just normal now.
I agree season 10 is the best
@@eloii Nostalgia is a hell of a drug
James Kilgour That was like 2 seasons ago.. That‘s not nostalgia lmao
@@GLBizzie yeah I was thinking 2015 not 2017
But that guy saying "eAt My SaLaD" was kinda funny doe
It wasnt as much Amy
as it was Rory... I always liked him more.
Amy was good enough,
but with her Flaws (some pointed out around Minute 4 here...) she
was... problematic... tiresome...
Series 1-10 are all great. Fight me.
I agree! I don't get how people keep hating on everything about everything in this show. I know people will think I'm some unopinionated sheep with no taste, but I thoroughly enjoyed every episode
I agree man
i’ll fight with you, they’re all great!!
1-5 and a few episodes of 6
We all stand together as the lovers of 1-10! 🤝
I love that the 11th Doctor knows not to fall down the romantic rabbit hole after his lose of Rose long before his regeneration, and he purposefully keeps Amy at a barge poll’s (or 10-foot poll here in the US) length away, romance wise, for this exact reason.
The first time Matt Smith Doctor was killed, he was in the robot suit, but then the second time river drained the system, causing time to break, but if she'd have just killed him, it would have been fine
Rose, Martha and Donna are the best companions and s1-4 are the best seasons. Russell was the king of character development and hooking stories and arcs. Steven is complicated and isn’t dedicated to his characters at all.
I was not big on Rose after season 2, I thought she should've stayed gone, but I'd take her any day over the current companions. Martha and Donna were fantastic, though.
The Second Golden Age was David Tennant, Tom Baker being the first!
Glad you finally got the vid past BBC walls
sonic screwdriver: doesnt work on wood
also the sonic: can miraculously bring a third of the population back?????
11th's regen speech was beautiful and u csnt change my mind
But yeh. . . I agree. . . Donna noble for life
It went from educational, emotional, and adventurous trips through time and space, to being a political platform, that’s what happened to it.
Doctor Who has always been political lol, just look at Capaldi's speech about capitalism in 'Oxygen', it's just that it's really forced now (Now as in Chibnalls run). I don't even think it's much of a problem with politics, it's more so a problem with writing, Chris Chibnall's dialogue is so awfully forced it makes me fucking implode out of pure cringe. I do like some episodes, but they are usually the ones not written by Chibnall, I just think it's lost good writing. They try to do the emotion and educational route, but either do it in a really forced way or a really boring way. A good example is 'Rosa', it has a brilliant concept, but it was executed fairly poorly. Nikola Tesla's Night of Terror is one of the only episodes I enjoyed from Jodie's era, as well as The Woman Who Fell to Earth, but that was just average. I think what's truly missing is good character development and generally good writing, also the music just isn't as memorable now.
@@litteralyjustsam5262 couldn't have said it better. It really makes me happy to see people criticizing the series for the right reason and not being annoying sexists. :)
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@@litteralyjustsam5262 spot on, it has always been political, it's just that chibnall's writing lacks the subtlety.
I agree with some points but Capldi´s regeneration speech was beautiful and i think it was a very good sendoff and completion of the character arc that Capldi's doctor, he went from a harden incompassionate and unempathic man to accepting the kindness in him and telling his next regenaration to follow that path of kindness. It is one of my favorite speeches and regenerations.
Theyre LITERALLY "not even trying anymore", yes.
Controversial opinion: I like the slitheen and the absorbalof.
You're a monster
Your based
Micah Schmitz is it controversial to like the Slitheen? I thought they were one of the more popular new who monsters. The absorbalof on the other hand....
Same. 😂
The slitheen were dope af. The absorbaloff tho...😂
Part of me wants a horrific accident just so I can do a riff on: I’M... STILL... *BLIND!* _DUMMMMMM_
Damn dude, did you just describe my exact experience with Doctor Who over this past decade? Everything you've said mirrors how I felt, it's a shame to see this show that needed a fresh breath of air fall even further
Capaldi is one of my all time favorite I don’t care what any body else e says
The only reason I can come up with that Clara stuck around so long is that Moffat was infatuated with Jenna Coleman.