As a young student during my college days i had admired the guts of CEC Seshan who single handedly would stand up to his responsibilities as CEC. I have yet to come across a person like him whom no one dared to question or go against since he worked as per the constitution.
To EC - is 2024 Election free and fair? If not, what is your duty? The finance of Congress is frozen. The CM and other Ministers of APP are in Jail without trial. How do they canvas for Elections. The aircraft of Rahul Gandhi is checked. What about aircraft of PM and HM and others
I suspect ECI is not doing all these stupid things checking Rahul chopper , arresting Opposition leaders . criminal group under rightwing acts behind ECI to stop opposition coming to power. It is dangerous situation prevailing now.
Wonderful, talented panel ; all participants have impeccable credibility. Shri S Y Qureshi was CEC in times when EVM's were standalone instruments. Not anymore. Umpteen instances are available where , more or less, manipulation of EVM has been proved . Current dispensation managing ECI are no longer of same caliber or asimpartial as yoo , Seshan or Lyndogh were i
Yes.very much so. For that matter every constitutional authority who strays from the straight and narrow path should be put on the dock and given maximum punishment.
Hope d CEC, RAJIV KUMAR & d govt is watching dis programme & takes cognisance of all d discussions, in the interest of India & all its ELECTORATES, in order to hv free, fair & impartial forthcoming Lok Sabha Election.
The Election Commissioner is not Caeser's wife. If he works shoddily then he should be hauled up in an exceptional way. Exceptional since he runs an independent outfit and has widespread powers.
All those officers who have failed to act according to the spirit of constitution must be prosecuted and jailed,if law required, to set the clock in the rule of law direction.
Excellent discussion, brings out points, that are in people's mind and give views of Election Commission, from Ex team... Helpful for people like us who understands English, wish similar ones in Hindi/regional language for other parts of India
Well done good job and debate as well regarding EC on conducting or implementing of model code of conduct. Though I personally feel that EC in India is very neutral but coming to the ground realities the EC on the whole is some thing is very different and where the EC shows some sort of favour to the ruling dispensation of the day . Kapil sibal sir where and when this act of EC is going to end. And in long run in my view the voter will ignore voting because why should we vote where the system is eventually not fair.
This is a Very Impressive and Brilliant Discussion and Analysis of Different Responsibility of our Election Commission. But my Personal Opinion is that Present Election Commission Will Not Discharge their Duties Impartially. Which We have already Watched. Thanks Mr. Kapil Sibal, Mr. Quraish, Mr. Ashok and General Shb. Kolkata. Thanks.
No discussion speaks about intimidation of top officials by Modi and Shah. They have forgotten Gujarat, Haren Pandya, judge Loya etc. etc.? Lavasa himself was intimidated and resigned from his job. The ED and CBI are acting as a private agency or the Gestapo of the government. When a beaurucrat and his family are brought under pressure he will succumb. This is hitting at the core of our democracy. Even the SBI chairman was prepared to face contempt of court and face prosecution. Why? Because he may have been worried about his job and personal safety.
Suggest,Hon'ble SC of India need to watch this discussion in all seriousness before hearing out patition on EVM's going by very very valuable suggestions by the two past EC's, ADR chair person and Mr Sibal
The answer to every question that Kapil sir asked was that it depends on if the CEC has a spine or not to use the powers given to them in the constitution to conduct a free and fair election ....and in my opinion the current CEC does not have a spine
Conclusion of this debate is EC does a shoddy job, but it's been shoddy forever! So suddenly there's a debate about newfound shoddiness! Selective dementia
During his tenure as the Chief Election Commissioner N Gopalaswami on 31 January 2009 sent his recommendation for removal of Election Commissioner Navin Chawla to the President of India.[3] He alleged that Chawla had discharged his duties as Election Commissioner in a partisan manner, seeking to further the interests of "one party." The CEC report contended that Chawla would take breaks during crucial meetings and secretly talk to functionaries of the Congress party and leak confidential details of the Election Commission.[4] Chawla is also reported to have opposed the Election Commission's notice to Sonia Gandhi for her accepting foreign honours from Belgium.[
Truly T S Seshan was the only CEC person who had stood as a strong pillar for fair conduct of elections. Why are the bureaucrats of various departments/ministries intimidated by the politicians.
Sibelius sahab and group. We have been crying for long and unless action is taken 1. Sue AGor chief secretary for mismanagement and. Oilstion of human rights 2. Give notice to the govt that the basic principles and requirements are not met as per democracy and hence if elections are conducted then it will be null and void. For this the prominent lawyers and professionals form a valid committee to safeguard democracy and give legal notices. If this is manipulated we need to slecify that we will not hesitate to seek international court of justice like Africa did on isreal hamas war. We need to act fast and avoid this jungle Raj and murmuring like grand mothers. Find solution . I beg
बहुत आनंद आया इन बूढो की फौज का रोना देखकर। और ये बूढा कपिल सिब्बल जो सुप्रीम कोर्ट को अपनी बपौती समझता था उसे अपनी असली औकात सुप्रीम कोर्ट ने दिखा दिया है।
That point about systems being in place - what appeal does a citizen have post facto? How many complaints will the EC take if the voting and counting and declaration has taken place and people’s complaint is only reviewed after? I don’t have a lot of hope from the incumbent EC.
If ballot boxes destroyed then same can be applicable to EVM also with same logic. Use ballot paper with party symbol along with barcode to help count similar to currency notes. Only manual count need to be done if there is any doubt.
In Manipur, recruitment processes for various government departments are going on without any disturbance from the ECI. Almost all state government departments issued recruitment notification of various posts and process is going on till this date i.e. 17/04/2024. That of election is on 19/04/2024.
It is Absolutely right to put every agency in the dock if necessary. Its called ACCOUNTABILITY an almost Non existent concept in India ! We do not pay our taxes to get lied to ,cheated and be led by criminals . So angry 😡!
This election Commission is a "caged parrot" It should symbolically shift office to Tihar jail. At least it will be more representative in many ways. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
kapil ji Indians don't have that much interest in politics and follow such issues minutely . That's why such serious issues don't create any waves on the ground .
We are loosing our constitutional institutions becouse of the irresponsible people heading these instructions. Hope they understand their responsibility to uphold the constitution of out great nation
When the voice of the people is not heard and thise in power are subservient to the prime minister and not to their constitutional obligations , the people should exercise their combined power .
Present Election Commissioner is not maintaining any dignity . He is the most biased .He is a public servant & getting his salary from citizen's tax & he should be answerable & loyal to citizens only .He is totally partial . Shame shame .
Kapil sir EX cec se pucho ke varanasi mein 2019 ke election mein jitna vote hua tha counting time voting se jaiyada vote counting hua hai kaise bholte hain ke EVM sahi hai
Election commission should not shouldered its responsibilities to political parties to confirm the names in electrol rolls. Instead they should establish a full proof system to addition/deletion of the name, in addition to fixation of responsibility.
A spacial for ce should be formed to conduct fare election and help people to give their verdict which is essential for preservation of democracy in our কান্ট্রি.
The bureaucracy should not be involved in influencing the voting public! And no government machinery and taxpayer money should be allowed to use. There should be severe penalties to the violators.
Any thing can be hacked as long as PEGASUS spyware is with PMO. So keep faith in God to get less vote to NDA so it can't help to get 400+ or 4000 as Nitish Kumar wished to PM last week.😊
Many impressions of such kinds in the public and these all are not without any reasons. The public is of grave apprehension of not having fair and transparent elections in the country the manner the things continue to happen with impunity. We are of the opinion that those who love this country in a true spirit will never say or do anything wrong or against the constitutional provisions. There are people who don’t believe in such things and hence keep on doing all that for personal motives and interest without caring for the national interest.12:21
Sibel sahab. I am aware that in a company if the managing director lagatar outside party ko chedte rahate aur company ka machinery use karte hai effecting Co development then he can be sued under CBT. Are the rules for a nation not same?. Yes it is. Regarding the ED and CBI these are govt bodies and not connected with political party. In fact govt DG SG and EDs are there reporting to AG or chief secretary and need to prevent political leaders pm and ministers not to bring projects or policies effecting the govt. under these circumstances public can sue ED and CBI for taking instructions directly or indirectly from pm or ministers. AG or chief secretary are responsible to give standing orders and if.Violated need to dismiss. Pl examine and find a way to curb the nonsense affecting the gdp of the country and human rights. God bless
As a young student during my college days i had admired the guts of CEC Seshan who single handedly would stand up to his responsibilities as CEC. I have yet to come across a person like him whom no one dared to question or go against since he worked as per the constitution.
Present EC is bias. Why check only Rahul Ghandi chopper and not of Modi, Amit Shah or any BJP (NDA) ?
Jungle Raj is not acceptable.
Mr. Seshan the election commissioner was a terror and all pms shivered on his speaking
Election commission is responsible to govt of india and not political leaders
he belongs to the bjp
Yes we agree with your comments, regarding Mr Rahul Gandhi ji, chopper, why EC check??? Should be check all of political parties,. 🇮🇳✌,...
All of them high dignitaries.very important discussion.Thanks to wire and team 👍
Love to hear this kind of discussion from eminent leaders. India needs your wisdom.
Unfortunately only few or a minority can understand their discussion.
TheRespected Sibal Sir ,The present discussion shoude also be in hindi.
Use of agencies during election against opposition leaders shall stopped..
IT'S FINE MR. KAPIL SIBAL TO MAKE THE PEOPLE AWARE ABOUT LEGAL DELICACIES AND PROBLEMS WE'RE FACING DAY TODAY.
The ECI is no more an institution that once it was. It has lost its credibility. We need people like Mr. Seshan who had a spine.
Now EC says, they are no more Congi slaves.They are free now
Please do necessary action to protect our nation
Thanks
Very enlightening discussion on an important topic of the day. Thank you for arranging such an important discussion.
Thanks!
These types of discussions should be done in Hindi so that mass could gain, for they are the one who vote and are ill informed.
To EC - is 2024 Election free and fair? If not, what is your duty?
The finance of Congress is frozen.
The CM and other Ministers of APP are in Jail without trial. How do they canvas for Elections.
The aircraft of Rahul Gandhi is checked. What about aircraft of PM and HM and others
Congress needs to banned permanently for doing election frauds for 70 yrs
I suspect ECI is not doing all these stupid things checking Rahul chopper , arresting Opposition leaders . criminal group under rightwing acts behind ECI to stop opposition coming to power. It is dangerous situation prevailing now.
Wonderful, talented panel ; all participants have impeccable credibility. Shri S Y Qureshi was CEC in times when EVM's were standalone instruments. Not anymore. Umpteen instances are available where , more or less, manipulation of EVM has been proved . Current dispensation managing ECI are no longer of same caliber or asimpartial as yoo , Seshan or Lyndogh were i
Wow intellectually discussion must required interview 💐💐
Unfair practices are in vogue and ECI is silent...
They seem to be shunning their responsibility. Now the people of India/Bharat should go out (heat or rain) and vote. Vote them out.
EC must apply its mind & act proactively & not merely to wait to react on the basis of a complaint.It must act upfront.
Sadly eci and team are chamchagiris of the duo in power😢
Why isnt this more Mainstream. Is India even a democracy Any more? Why is this just on you tube?
Yes.very much so.
For that matter every constitutional authority who strays from the straight and narrow path should be put on the dock and given maximum punishment.
Who can do that?
What a wonderful discussion?
Hope d CEC, RAJIV KUMAR & d govt is watching dis programme & takes cognisance of all d discussions, in the interest of India & all its ELECTORATES, in order to hv free, fair & impartial forthcoming Lok Sabha Election.
ECI should act suo moto to stop any activity that disturb level playing field...
What ECi is doing?
Kabil sir.... salute to you. I am watching your dell saa program all times. Thank you sir for wonderful informations...
The Election Commissioner is not Caeser's wife.
If he works shoddily then he should be hauled up in an exceptional way.
Exceptional since he runs an independent outfit and has widespread powers.
Why, the EC even refused to meet the opposition leaders who wanted to discuss election related matters!
Who can descipline EC?
CJI will be shy
Just check the histories of Election Commissioners, selected by Khangressi PMs. Some of the ECs behaviors were just like a pet dog of Khangressi
We are always with neutral and intellectual media and Wire.❤😂🎉.
Good and meaningful discussion. God bless you all respectful personality.
शुक्रिया ❤
All those officers who have failed to act according to the spirit of constitution must be prosecuted and jailed,if law required, to set the clock in the rule of law direction.
EC became defunct in the wake of Bjp rejime.
At 44:30 I'm startled he says okay to add names but not delete, meaning there a duplication of names! And this man was HRD minister?
Excellent discussion, brings out points, that are in people's mind and give views of Election Commission, from Ex team... Helpful for people like us who understands English, wish similar ones in Hindi/regional language for other parts of India
Not only ECI also CBI, ED ,NIA is require in this situation
Mr kapil sibal ji is a great thinker as well as an ace solicitor.his views on various subjects have great weights.
Well done good job and debate as well regarding EC on conducting or implementing of model code of conduct.
Though I personally feel that EC in India is very neutral but coming to the ground realities the EC on the whole is some thing is very different and where the EC shows some sort of favour to the ruling dispensation of the day .
Kapil sibal sir where and when this act of EC is going to end.
And in long run in my view the voter will ignore voting because why should we vote where the system is eventually not fair.
This is a Very Impressive and Brilliant Discussion and Analysis of Different Responsibility of our Election Commission. But my Personal Opinion is that Present Election Commission Will Not Discharge their Duties Impartially. Which We have already Watched. Thanks Mr. Kapil Sibal, Mr. Quraish, Mr. Ashok and General Shb. Kolkata. Thanks.
No discussion speaks about intimidation of top officials by Modi and Shah. They have forgotten Gujarat, Haren Pandya, judge Loya etc. etc.? Lavasa himself was intimidated and resigned from his job. The ED and CBI are acting as a private agency or the Gestapo of the government. When a beaurucrat and his family are brought under pressure he will succumb. This is hitting at the core of our democracy. Even the SBI chairman was prepared to face contempt of court and face prosecution. Why? Because he may have been worried about his job and personal safety.
Your wonderful personality sir, strongly fight against this waste Modi Amithsha
salute
great information center
Suggest,Hon'ble SC of India need to watch this discussion in all seriousness before hearing out patition on EVM's going by very very valuable suggestions by the two past EC's, ADR chair person and Mr Sibal
Enlightening !!
Correctly said
Justice defended in ideal direction
Thank you sir, for insight on EC.
The answer to every question that Kapil sir asked was that it depends on if the CEC has a spine or not to use the powers given to them in the constitution to conduct a free and fair election ....and in my opinion the current CEC does not have a spine
Manipulation of electoral roles is serious areas that need attention....
Conclusion of this debate is EC does a shoddy job, but it's been shoddy forever! So suddenly there's a debate about newfound shoddiness! Selective dementia
No matter what Constitution says !
The Matter Works what PMO Says
During his tenure as the Chief Election Commissioner N Gopalaswami on 31 January 2009 sent his recommendation for removal of Election Commissioner Navin Chawla to the President of India.[3] He alleged that Chawla had discharged his duties as Election Commissioner in a partisan manner, seeking to further the interests of "one party." The CEC report contended that Chawla would take breaks during crucial meetings and secretly talk to functionaries of the Congress party and leak confidential details of the Election Commission.[4] Chawla is also reported to have opposed the Election Commission's notice to Sonia Gandhi for her accepting foreign honours from Belgium.[
Good discussion
Kapil sir🙏 ye ECI ke log desh ke nazar se geer gaiye hain
Can somoene among this esteemed panel recollect the fiasco between former EC N Gopalaswami and Navin Chawla?
Truly T S Seshan was the only CEC person who had stood as a strong pillar for fair conduct of elections. Why are the bureaucrats of various departments/ministries intimidated by the politicians.
🙌🙌
All vvpat shall be court to dispel any doubt on Evm..
सिब्बल जी बहुत ही उपयोगी जानकारी दे रहे है परन्तु किसी तरह यह जानकारियां हिंदी में उपलब्ध कराने का कष्ट करें।
Sibelius sahab and group. We have been crying for long and unless action is taken
1. Sue AGor chief secretary for mismanagement and. Oilstion of human rights
2. Give notice to the govt that the basic principles and requirements are not met as per democracy and hence if elections are conducted then it will be null and void.
For this the prominent lawyers and professionals form a valid committee to safeguard democracy and give legal notices. If this is manipulated we need to slecify that we will not hesitate to seek international court of justice like Africa did on isreal hamas war.
We need to act fast and avoid this jungle Raj and murmuring like grand mothers. Find solution . I beg
Without even watching this video I can answer the question in the thumbnail - - - YES !
SC should not allow elections unless and until election practices are fair and unbiased
बहुत आनंद आया इन बूढो की फौज का रोना देखकर। और ये बूढा कपिल सिब्बल जो सुप्रीम कोर्ट को अपनी बपौती समझता था उसे अपनी असली औकात सुप्रीम कोर्ट ने दिखा दिया है।
EC CEC SHOULD UNDER SUPREME COURT OF INDIA.
Present EC has to take conscious truthful and fair decision
Names are allowed to add on site at the polling booth with two pieces of IDs, one of which a picture ID, in Canada!
That point about systems being in place - what appeal does a citizen have post facto? How many complaints will the EC take if the voting and counting and declaration has taken place and people’s complaint is only reviewed after? I don’t have a lot of hope from the incumbent EC.
If ballot boxes destroyed then same can be applicable to EVM also with same logic. Use ballot paper with party symbol along with barcode to help count similar to currency notes. Only manual count need to be done if there is any doubt.
In Manipur, recruitment processes for various government departments are going on without any disturbance from the ECI. Almost all state government departments issued recruitment notification of various posts and process is going on till this date i.e. 17/04/2024. That of election is on 19/04/2024.
It is Absolutely right to put every agency in the dock if necessary. Its called ACCOUNTABILITY an almost Non existent concept in India ! We do not pay our taxes to get lied to ,cheated and be led by criminals . So angry 😡!
#rahulgandhi❤ #election #eci #kejriwal
Its the people who are suffering...
For LeLis in India, Qureshi is the one & only CEC worth discussing anything about elections in this country.
No other CEC exists.
Whosoever involved in cheating and manuplation will certainly be reprimanded.
This election Commission is a "caged parrot" It should symbolically shift office to Tihar jail. At least it will be more representative in many ways. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Rightly said. He acts like one. No matter what. He should do his duty diligently as he has a responsibility to our Consitution n our country
kapil ji Indians don't have that much interest in politics and follow such issues minutely . That's why such serious issues don't create any waves on the ground .
Safety of the voters and personnel is the cause.. despite election can be done in 2 to 3 phases and conclude in 15 days .
We are loosing our constitutional institutions becouse of the irresponsible people heading these instructions. Hope they understand their responsibility to uphold the constitution of out great nation
Chair se bahar road pe ayi ye log apko sun ne ke liye tayar khada he🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
When the voice of the people is not heard and thise in power are subservient to the prime minister and not to their constitutional obligations , the people should exercise their combined power .
Present Election Commissioner is not maintaining any dignity . He is the most biased .He is a public servant & getting his salary from citizen's tax & he should be answerable & loyal to citizens only .He is totally partial . Shame shame .
Not thousands, hundreds of thousands.
EC wouldn't be in the dock IF its conduct was fair and above board. Simple.
Kapil sir EX cec se pucho ke varanasi mein 2019 ke election mein jitna vote hua tha counting time voting se jaiyada vote counting hua hai kaise bholte hain ke EVM sahi hai
👏🙏👏
EVM HATAO DESH BACHAO 💪
Election commission should not shouldered its responsibilities to political parties to confirm the names in electrol rolls. Instead they should establish a full proof system to addition/deletion of the name, in addition to fixation of responsibility.
Regarding the soldier ambassador - It is part of politicization of the army
As a citizen, i think the EC has lost its mandate and must be held singularly responsible for whatever is happening in the country.
Thank you so much
Does the ECI work once every 5 yrs?
Cool job!
A spacial for ce should be formed to conduct fare election and help people to give their verdict which is essential for preservation of democracy in our কান্ট্রি.
The present EC is a stooge not acting as per the constitution.
Kapil Sibbal ji contested from CC - Chandi Chowk. What do I know -:)
Why can't voting be done online like upi.
The bureaucracy should not be involved in influencing the voting public! And no government machinery and taxpayer money should be allowed to use. There should be severe penalties to the violators.
Answer for the head line question:
Yes,Yes,Yes.
Election Commission #GrowASpineOrResign
Any thing can be hacked as long as PEGASUS spyware is with PMO. So keep faith in God to get less vote to NDA so it can't help to get 400+ or 4000 as Nitish Kumar wished to PM last week.😊
That discretion may be misused..
Many impressions of such kinds in the public and these all are not without any reasons. The public is of grave apprehension of not having fair and transparent elections in the country the manner the things continue to happen with impunity. We are of the opinion that those who love this country in a true spirit will never say or do anything wrong or against the constitutional provisions. There are people who don’t believe in such things and hence keep on doing all that for personal motives and interest without caring for the national interest.12:21
Hasn't EC put itself in the dock ???
T N Seshan has set such an example that should be considered as a hallmark of Model Code of Conduct !!
#eci
Sibel sahab. I am aware that in a company if the managing director lagatar outside party ko chedte rahate aur company ka machinery use karte hai effecting Co development then he can be sued under CBT. Are the rules for a nation not same?. Yes it is.
Regarding the ED and CBI these are govt bodies and not connected with political party. In fact govt DG SG and EDs are there reporting to AG or chief secretary and need to prevent political leaders pm and ministers not to bring projects or policies effecting the govt.
under these circumstances public can sue ED and CBI for taking instructions directly or indirectly from pm or ministers. AG or chief secretary are responsible to give standing orders and if.Violated need to dismiss.
Pl examine and find a way to curb the nonsense affecting the gdp of the country and human rights. God bless
I want to know if the phased manner of election has any instructions from Government of the day giving unwritten instructions.