Most people are too busy looking at life through their family lens only on how to tackle poverty hunger and joblessness. Main reason why Bollywood illusory life is their only distraction.@@krisgopi_8
I am really proud of you all four personalities discussing our nation’s important issue and opening our mind too. Hope this country gets benefited with your knowledge and save democracy and nation as well.
Also why to bother. Most of them are privileged persons including the anchor. They benifired from the corrupt system.They have no history of struggle & are certainly will never agree for the change in status quo. Even SC is unwilling to disclose all the details. Mere change in govt. Is of no use. Had it been useful your illiterate would not have been able to use system to legalize corruption & yet remained self proclaimed honest.
You are wrong. He is not the one person who is doing all this. There are hundreds of Legal luminaries; Bureaucrats; IIT graduates; computer engineers; psychologists; scholars who work for him behind the curtains. He only do what is told to him.
We the taxpayers of this country should file a PIL through Mr Sibal for claiming the GST paid by govt for this extortion. 18% GST is paid by Govt not the purchaser nor the redeemer
Excellent, free and fearless discussion on the democracy and the working of the government. It is very enlightening, informative and useful for all to watch. Probodh
इस वीडियो में तो अपने लुटिएं जोन के सारे बेरोजगारों को इकठ्ठा कर लिया है। इन सबका दर्द बहुत बड़ा है। कहां पावर सेंटर के पास, 5 स्टार होटलों में कॉकटेल हाथ में लिए, भूखे, नंगे, गंदे गरीबों के उत्थान के लिए योजनाएं बनाने का भार उठाते थे। कहां अब ये सब छोड़ अपने खर्च उठाने के लिए काम करना पड़ता है।
इनमें से एक उच्चतम न्यायालय के सेवा निवृत्त न्यायाधीश हैं,दूसरे विख्यात प्रोफेसर रहे हैं।जो प्रसिद्ध अर्थशास्त्री हैं। तीसरे उच्चतम न्यायालय के वकील हैं।चौथे विदेश से शिक्षा प्राप्त हैं आम नौजवान की तरह चाहते तो बढ़िया नौकरी हासिल कर सकते थे। यदि यह लोग लुटियंस के बेरोजगार हैं तो फिर रोजगार किस को कहते हैं महानुभव
Great talk show… these are the kind of discussion to be the nature of Indian media debate but they are the worst lot to even expect this from them. Thank God that I left watching TV since 2012 and not have a TV itself in the house
As Indian born and educated but live in the West am appalled at Indian TV. Either soaps cricket or people screaming at each other on my visits to India. Thankfully my visits have ended after my mother's passing. No more drivel.
It is almost close to one billion dollar scam, may be number 1 in the world. How can white money be donated whose amount crosses many times the so called company's overall profit. What is the source of such huge money and its trail.
This is a noble discussion from India's elite. Must be seriously noted by all the main pillars of democracy and save democracy of this great nation from ruin. How can our otherwise noble politicians get engaged in such unconstitutional activities ? Are we moving away from what the noble traditions our nation's constitutional father's have envisaged ? Urgent action as recorded here is our only hope.
Our great respect to all genius people on the dais. They are experts in Law, Economy, Politcs, Social Justice. We need such experts to fight the present corrupt dispensation where corruption smell is emanating in entire India....
Honorable Sirs.. .... Please do not lose sight of what I call The Andha Kuuan ...... ie The PM Cares fund... Where is the transparency.... This is not the PM s personal property ... What is the amount continuing to be collected.... What is it being spent on.... Any hospitals built...? Who all have donated...
"Amit Shah said that out of the total amount of 22 thousand crores, only 8000 crores have been received by the BJP and the remaining 14000 crores have been received by others, which is completely false. Shah is an important minister of India so a case of misinformation should be filed against that person for giving false statements to the public from that position."
@pankajpassi7233dont you know the excess marketing? Cant u see the media houses? Dont you know how cash, meat and liquor is distributed while election?
Four great men from four different fields in discussion on the subject of the day enlightening the matter in great depth. Really fantastic to hear from them.
India ranked at #35 in 2014 on the Justice Index and now it's slid to rank #79. Urgent need to thwart ABUSE of central agencies, and bring some fairness to the electoral process. Now these challenges can't be dealt without "Press Freedom." NDTV is owned by Adani, Network 18 group (CNBC) is owned by Mukesh Ambani, and Republic TV had investment from BJP leader Rajeev Chandrashekhar. A few months ago I read an article where a court assistant accused CJI Gogoi of sexual harassment. Info shared in the article appeared to be credible but was not much covered by media and Gogoi was absolved. The complainant alleged that she was sacked by CJI Gogoi, and the only justice the case did was she was reinstated in her position. This is the same CJI Gogoi who was given RS ticket by BJP. India has tons of potential if stuff like fundamental rights, justice system, press freedom and electoral process fall in place. Let's keep the crusade on! Jai Hind.
I don't understand why it's difficult to establish any chain. The purchaser of the bond is responsible to declare where the money used to purchase the bond came from. The trail needs to be investigated by analysing the audit reports of each purchaser. Thousands of alleged shell Companies were struck down way back in 2016 and Directors were even prevented from being Directors in any other Company or even partners in LLPs for 5 years. Even auditors of these present She'll Companies need to be booked in case there has been some concealment of income.
The difficulty is, just like money even bond can change had after its purchase and before it reaches the political party. But only the political party knows who that last link in the chain who gave the bond to party ( in fact last link will make sure party knows it for quid pro quo)
Very informative and sensible discussion is being done by prominent personalities. I think some things creative must be done. Why Honerable Supreme Court are not taking sumo Moto action of these extortion. Matter need to be investigated.
kapil sir i appreciate your attempt to put light on hidden corruption of ruling party .it is very important and most public concerned interest issue .kindly make the way how to deliver result this issue revealation in supreme court to the common voter citizen of our country staying in remote villiages workers: small shopkeepers: labours :but the sarkari, darbari ,dalal ,media is adopting total black out of this type of issues in t v and print media national news papers which is hidden since 2014 .please try to organise this type of discussions in hindi too so that more and more people can view and hear you .
It is good that this matter is being debeted, by top intellectuals, but when isses like proverty, water problem, electricity,education autrocities on st,sc ,obc and others will be debeted by top intellectuals?
As quid pro-quo have been stabilised,then their should not be delay to file to set-up a SIT under the supervision of retired judge of Supreme court of India to investigate the entire corruption and punish chain of people involve in this electrol bonds.
They took it indirectly from DMK. Also, in Kerala they threaten people to give money or take revenge against those who dont contribute ( infamously called as "bucket pirivu")
Excellent discussion by four eminent personalities! SC should soon step in and appoint a court-monitored SIT. It’s all in the hands of people like you Mr. Sibal. Please do step in to stem this rot.
Supreme Court should take help of army to counter the police force ,ED,CBI etc. for investigating the source of money meanwhile seizing the BJP Bank account and property
My heartiest respect to all of you. A lay man& very insignificant person like me compelled to hold the opinion that Agencies are not in a position to investigate the matters independently.
Very valuable discussion, great personalities.I think these discussions should be in Hindi. Common people are unaware of this.Effertos should be to reach the common public in simple languages. Harjit Singh Basota.
Those who bought bonds to donate have been proven to have been companies with minor profits . How is that ,they donated such huge amounts to bjp in bonds when their profit margin was so low? Mostly shell companies . Should be thoroughly investigated by a competent authority. A lot of skeletons are bound to tumble out!
Yes sir it's bribe in white as far as electoral bond is concerned ! Even further with honesty, it has to be dealt with EXTORTION BOND ! GREAT DISCUSSION ON THE MOST RELEVANT ISSUE among the four distinguished personalities ❤
In response to 600 lawyers and PM’s veiled threat to CJI , don’t you all think that 1000 lawyers and civil society personalities to write letter to resident and CJI also?
Kapil Sibal recently as a distinguished journalist stands in line with Karan Thapar & Ravish Kumar. His pan India interviews have touched urgent issues of national importance & the maladies afflicting our polity. Keeping in view his broad understanding I would suggest that India block declares him the Prime Ministerial candidate.
I fail to understand why SC is not filing a su Moto case against SBI, finance ministry and PMO on electoral bonds issue. As it is explicit in the data which establishes quid pro quo, extortion by BJP party using ED and CBI to purchase electoral bonds.
Nothing happens in discussion, just spread this message through out the country so that everyone will be aware. This corrupt system and the corrupt government must change.
Interesting and useful discussion from the experts for the Citizens of India who are ultimately the decision makers to elect the Govt. All Government policies and rules made after 2019 must be reviewed by independent bodies to investigate who were the most beneficiaries 🙏
The information that only the Communist Party of India Marxist (CPIM) has refused to receive any money from corporates in this Electoral Bond scheme is very impressive fact. There is at least one political party in India who has opposed this political corruption by it's actual action. 👍
WORLD LAWYERS; WORLD COURTS; WORLDS JUDICIARY ; Is watching keenly; the events unfolding; Politics: religion: money: power: corruption: kick backs;and Democracy.. will go down in history and case study; TOP ADVOCATES LIKE ; Dr. MANU SIGHVI; Mr. Kapil Sibal; Mr; Manish Tiwari.. in WORLDS LARGETS ECONOMY; is the EYE OPENER; MODEL
An enlightening discussion with domain stalwarts. ❤
Kapil ji, I am watching your all episodes. Very much appreciable for your dedicated efforts
He has guts...hats off to him
Suggestion: Hope WIRE can make such discussion dubbing in different language to reach to public more effective….
Thankyou Sibal sir for such a mind nourishing conversation with so much of eminent minds. Very fruitful and need of the hour conversation.
Agreed but no use.
Just awaress to people who follow real news very minimal
Most people are too busy looking at life through their family lens only on how to tackle poverty hunger and joblessness. Main reason why Bollywood illusory life is their only distraction.@@krisgopi_8
Sibal better than modi💪
I am really proud of you all four personalities discussing our nation’s important issue and opening our mind too. Hope this country gets benefited with your knowledge and save democracy and nation as well.
What a time in india where so many highly educated people unable to understand how to tackle one illiterate person.
Lack of will , guts and courage
Also why to bother. Most of them are privileged persons including the anchor. They benifired from the corrupt system.They have no history of struggle & are certainly will never agree for the change in status quo. Even SC is unwilling to disclose all the details. Mere change in govt. Is of no use. Had it been useful your illiterate would not have been able to use system to legalize corruption & yet remained self proclaimed honest.
That illetrate peson is just a show boy.. People behind him are strong corporates judicials and executives.. Running our country
You are wrong. He is not the one person who is doing all this. There are hundreds of Legal luminaries; Bureaucrats; IIT graduates; computer engineers; psychologists; scholars who work for him behind the curtains. He only do what is told to him.
Haha
Excellent discussion and a hint on the way forward. Guests were fantastic.
Please,file a petition. We country people are pinning our hopes on personalities like in this panel.
SUPREME Court mei EVM ka case bhi kharij ho gaya 10 bar, ab kuch ni hone wala
@@kamalverma4641 tum kyun chinta karta hai ??
మంచి విశ్లేషణ!
We the taxpayers of this country should file a PIL through Mr Sibal for claiming the GST paid by govt for this extortion. 18% GST is paid by Govt not the purchaser nor the redeemer
Great.
thanks mr kapil & guest for elaborating subject !
Brilliant discussion! 🙏
Thank you and please do take legal action against the BJP and save the country!
They wont do it unless you stand up and do your self.
CJI is kattarwadi hindu. He was at Ayodhya wearing dhoti with other Judges. Legal action 😂
Who will be allowed to investigate them after all the bjp is running the country and they are free to do anything with no one to question them
Legends, true Intellectuals, very healthy debate. May god protect your souls. God should give you a long life to save humanity.
Whichever and whoever is your image of God. Being honest and knowing Right from Wrong surely is not up to God but to real life and people.
Excellent, free and fearless discussion on the democracy and the working of the government. It is very enlightening, informative and useful for all to watch.
Probodh
11:09 exactly, law banake paisa loota. Thats fuccking insane. And demonitization was pure failure if there is still black money
Kapil Sibal has been admirable in getting such important discussions out to people (at least the english speaking audience). Thank you Mr. Sibal.
Very true interpretation
Nexus between SBI and Finance Ministry needs to be Probed.
absolutely
इस वीडियो में तो अपने लुटिएं जोन के सारे बेरोजगारों को इकठ्ठा कर लिया है।
इन सबका दर्द बहुत बड़ा है। कहां पावर सेंटर के पास, 5 स्टार होटलों में कॉकटेल हाथ में लिए, भूखे, नंगे, गंदे गरीबों के उत्थान के लिए योजनाएं बनाने का भार उठाते थे।
कहां अब ये सब छोड़ अपने खर्च उठाने के लिए काम करना पड़ता है।
इनमें से एक उच्चतम न्यायालय के सेवा निवृत्त न्यायाधीश हैं,दूसरे विख्यात प्रोफेसर रहे हैं।जो प्रसिद्ध अर्थशास्त्री हैं। तीसरे उच्चतम न्यायालय के वकील हैं।चौथे विदेश से शिक्षा प्राप्त हैं आम नौजवान की तरह चाहते तो बढ़िया नौकरी हासिल कर सकते थे। यदि यह लोग लुटियंस के बेरोजगार हैं तो फिर रोजगार किस को कहते हैं महानुभव
Great talk show… these are the kind of discussion to be the nature of Indian media debate but they are the worst lot to even expect this from them. Thank God that I left watching TV since 2012 and not have a TV itself in the house
As Indian born and educated but live in the West am appalled at Indian TV. Either soaps cricket or people screaming at each other on my visits to India. Thankfully my visits have ended after my mother's passing. No more drivel.
Views expressed by the imminent members of your discussion is very valuable to understand the importance of the issue to the people of the country.
It is almost close to one billion dollar scam, may be number 1 in the world. How can white money be donated whose amount crosses many times the so called company's overall profit. What is the source of such huge money and its trail.
This is a noble discussion from India's elite. Must be seriously noted by all the main pillars of democracy and save democracy of this great nation from ruin. How can our otherwise noble politicians get engaged in such unconstitutional activities ? Are we moving away from what the noble traditions our nation's constitutional father's have envisaged ? Urgent action as recorded here is our only hope.
The point is very valid. immediate actions must be initiated by the Courts without fail as early as possible.
Our great respect to all genius people on the dais. They are experts in Law, Economy, Politcs, Social Justice. We need such experts to fight the present corrupt dispensation where corruption smell is emanating in entire India....
Honorable Sirs.. .... Please do not lose sight of what I call The Andha Kuuan ...... ie The PM Cares fund... Where is the transparency.... This is not the PM s personal property ... What is the amount continuing to be collected.... What is it being spent on.... Any hospitals built...? Who all have donated...
"Amit Shah said that out of the total amount of 22 thousand crores, only 8000 crores have been received by the BJP and the remaining 14000 crores have been received by others, which is completely false. Shah is an important minister of India so a case of misinformation should be filed against that person for giving false statements to the public from that position."
@pankajpassi7233do you know how much is in pmcare fund?
@pankajpassi7233dont you know the excess marketing? Cant u see the media houses? Dont you know how cash, meat and liquor is distributed while election?
Doesn't make any difference... They know the art of manipulating EVMs by Israeli help.
@pankajpassi7233your SHOUTING won't change facts.
@pankajpassi7233Know what, go slither back under the rock you came out of
Good, revealing discussion. With clear clues to the way forward.
Thank you , Kapil Sibal for the landmark judgement...
Electoral bond case should be investigated throughly to find out the culprits irrespective of political affiliation
by whom, there is still evm, and blind supporters
Yes Bofors or Rafale. We need new party
Now that the secret code number is available it should not be difficult to figure out who got what.
Four great men from four different fields in discussion on the subject of the day enlightening the matter in great depth. Really fantastic to hear from them.
Absolutely correct. Please go ahead. Wishing all success.
भारत, भारत के शुभचिंतकों, कार्यकर्ताओं और देशभक्तों की वजह से चल रहा है। उन सभी को साधुवाद।
Dr. Kumar has been one of the best known authorities in matters of Black Economy, besides being a great macro economist. 🎉
then what
Very interesting format. Hope it stays true & with integrity.
Every citizen should come forward to save democracy of our country.
India ranked at #35 in 2014 on the Justice Index and now it's slid to rank #79. Urgent need to thwart ABUSE of central agencies, and bring some fairness to the electoral process. Now these challenges can't be dealt without "Press Freedom." NDTV is owned by Adani, Network 18 group (CNBC) is owned by Mukesh Ambani, and Republic TV had investment from BJP leader Rajeev Chandrashekhar. A few months ago I read an article where a court assistant accused CJI Gogoi of sexual harassment. Info shared in the article appeared to be credible but was not much covered by media and Gogoi was absolved. The complainant alleged that she was sacked by CJI Gogoi, and the only justice the case did was she was reinstated in her position. This is the same CJI Gogoi who was given RS ticket by BJP. India has tons of potential if stuff like fundamental rights, justice system, press freedom and electoral process fall in place. Let's keep the crusade on! Jai Hind.
Thanks!
I don't understand why it's difficult to establish any chain. The purchaser of the bond is responsible to declare where the money used to purchase the bond came from. The trail needs to be investigated by analysing the audit reports of each purchaser. Thousands of alleged shell Companies were struck down way back in 2016 and Directors were even prevented from being Directors in any other Company or even partners in LLPs for 5 years. Even auditors of these present She'll Companies need to be booked in case there has been some concealment of income.
The difficulty is, just like money even bond can change had after its purchase and before it reaches the political party. But only the political party knows who that last link in the chain who gave the bond to party ( in fact last link will make sure party knows it for quid pro quo)
It is always a treat to listen to such learned pannel.You are a gem of our beautiful ❤️ country.
Thank u ..informative discussion
Very informative and sensible discussion is being done by prominent personalities.
I think some things creative must be done. Why Honerable Supreme Court are not taking sumo Moto action of these extortion. Matter need to be investigated.
Admirable panel and sober discussion. Nice to see Sitram Yechury on mainstream. Wonderfully articulate.
This talk is like a symphony...such precision and harmony of themes. The quartet of masters grappling over the fate of the nation. 👏👏
Salute the CPM...who match words with deeds.
kapil sir i appreciate your attempt to put light on hidden corruption of ruling party .it is very important and most public concerned interest issue .kindly make the way how to deliver result this issue revealation in supreme court to the common voter citizen of our country staying in remote villiages workers: small shopkeepers: labours :but the sarkari, darbari ,dalal ,media is adopting total black out of this type of issues in t v and print media national news papers which is hidden since 2014 .please try to organise this type of discussions in hindi too so that more and more people can view and hear you .
It is good that this matter is being debeted, by top intellectuals, but when isses like proverty, water problem, electricity,education autrocities on st,sc ,obc and others will be debeted by top intellectuals?
At around 29:00 crux of debate about seizure of ill money back - *lacking in debate heading*
Sibal sir , 💕💕💕💕
As quid pro-quo have been stabilised,then their should not be delay to file to set-up a SIT under the supervision of retired judge of Supreme court of India to investigate the entire corruption and punish chain of people involve in this electrol bonds.
So informative and a warning before commenting
World is Watching.....
Eye opener..
Such a pleasure listening to Mr Sibal and Mr Yechury 🤌🏼
Well done, Kapil Sibal
Very important talk
Glad these discussions are happening and thank god for social media for the common man to see
And CPI ml also refused the dirty bonds.
They took it indirectly from DMK. Also, in Kerala they threaten people to give money or take revenge against those who dont contribute ( infamously called as "bucket pirivu")
Kudos Yachuri, for your principled stand based on the principles of communism. Please take such a stand on the Lavlin case also.
The ideal debate of intellectuals 🎉🎉❤❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏
Thank you, gentlemen! A very good discussion, and very informative!
The details should be shown on all the media to the public
Modi tu tho gaya is baar. Everywhere this time Anti modi hawa going on. All citizens shocked.
Excellent discussion by four eminent personalities! SC should soon step in and appoint a court-monitored SIT. It’s all in the hands of people like you Mr. Sibal. Please do step in to stem this rot.
You're absolutely right sir
Good morning esteemed gentlemen and inspiring individuals with exquisite souls.
Supreme Court should take help of army to counter the police force ,ED,CBI etc. for investigating the source of money meanwhile seizing the BJP Bank account and property
A good effort by kalil sir sitting all together pl continue this type sitting
All involved in this extortion case should be barred from contesting the 2024 elections by SC/EC
People must also understand who is doing what and how it is affecting our country.
EC , as you mentioned in your comment here, has been exposed time and again as it doesn't belong to the HOLY NEST
That every body knows how? That is most important!
then most candidates from the political dynasties cannot participate.....so, the dot alliance itself would throw your suggestion in the air.....
@@kannan0519 4th pass won't understand what is said.
Great initiative by people of eminence and credibility at the time of doomed India.
Jai hind !! Remove BJP. Save our great country India. Jai Hind !!
My heartiest respect to all of you. A lay man& very insignificant person like me compelled to hold the opinion that Agencies are not in a position to investigate the matters independently.
The SBI would definitely have a list which has correlated the purchaser of the electoral bond and the political party which has encashed the bond.
Real hero of rule of law sir Kapil sibal
Pm care fund should also be challenge in supreme Court, it is a bigger scam then the electrol bonds.
❤ thanks wire news
There is an issue with the ending. It ends abruptly. Pls correct the same 37:47
Very valuable discussion, great personalities.I think these discussions should be in Hindi.
Common people are unaware of this.Effertos should be to reach the common public in simple languages.
Harjit Singh Basota.
Very enlightening dialogue! Thank you!
Valuable discussion
Why is ED not investigating the political parties which received crores of Rs under Electoral bonds scheme?
Those who bought bonds to donate have been proven to have been companies with minor profits . How is that ,they donated such huge amounts to bjp in bonds when their profit margin was so low? Mostly shell companies . Should be thoroughly investigated by a competent authority. A lot of skeletons are bound to tumble out!
🤩😍 brave intelligent honest indians
Yes sir it's bribe in white as far as electoral bond is concerned ! Even further with honesty, it has to be dealt with EXTORTION BOND ! GREAT DISCUSSION ON THE MOST RELEVANT ISSUE among the four distinguished personalities ❤
In response to 600 lawyers and PM’s veiled threat to CJI , don’t you all think that 1000 lawyers and civil society personalities to write letter to resident and CJI also?
Much awaited
Well explained
Gentlemen your discussion is very important and relevant but we hope you will discuss how we can save our democracy elections
Yechury happy to see you in this discussion
Nation as a feudal.
Salute sir
India is running because of well wishers , activists and patriots of India. Kudos goes to all of them.
Fruit full discussion
Kapil Sibal recently as a distinguished journalist stands in line with Karan Thapar & Ravish Kumar. His pan India interviews have touched urgent issues of national importance & the maladies afflicting our polity. Keeping in view his broad understanding I would suggest that India block declares him the Prime Ministerial candidate.
Excellent
I fail to understand why SC is not filing a su Moto case against SBI, finance ministry and PMO on electoral bonds issue.
As it is explicit in the data which establishes quid pro quo, extortion by BJP party using ED and CBI to purchase electoral bonds.
Exposed the whole thing 🎯
Kapil Sir jee
In India who, will carry such investigation and bring back all that to the public .
Nothing happens in discussion, just spread this message through out the country so that everyone will be aware. This corrupt system and the corrupt government must change.
Interesting and useful discussion from the experts for the Citizens of India who are ultimately the decision makers to elect the Govt. All Government policies and rules made after 2019 must be reviewed by independent bodies to investigate who were the most beneficiaries 🙏
The information that only the Communist Party of India Marxist (CPIM) has refused to receive any money from corporates in this Electoral Bond scheme is very impressive fact. There is at least one political party in India who has opposed this political corruption by it's actual action. 👍
How income tax department and their CA SHOULD NOT BE PROSECUTED for showing loss and then purchasing bonds.
WORLD LAWYERS; WORLD COURTS; WORLDS JUDICIARY ;
Is watching keenly;
the events unfolding;
Politics: religion: money: power: corruption: kick backs;and Democracy..
will go down in history and case study;
TOP ADVOCATES LIKE ; Dr. MANU SIGHVI; Mr. Kapil Sibal;
Mr; Manish Tiwari..
in WORLDS LARGETS ECONOMY;
is the EYE OPENER;
MODEL