Central London tube station abandoned in 1999.
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2023
- This is the Charing Cross terminus of the Jubilee line filmed just two years after closure and long before it was used as a location in James Bond's Skyfall.
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This doesn't seem right without Jago Hazzard's voice.
@@bfappleThen why don’t they?
Nothing against this channel...
Jago lives in London, so I suspect that he does more than read a Wiki page.
I bet Geoff Marshall downvoted this
Fr, it's like I'm so used to Jago hazzard's voice for videos like this.
These people do more than that as well.
The driver's eye view of the new junction at the end was excellent - thanks. Also well narrated.
During my time driving the Jubilee line, I used to love being asked to go into Charing Cross! It was like time had stood still!
I only wish I had taken photo's and video's!
Haha, me too! The difference is that I took lots of videos and photos too… and often used to ask to be routed via the shunt signals into & back out of the overrun sidings too. Happy days! (2006-2008 in my case).
Why were you driving into the X? Empty stock I presume? Were you then sent back towards Stanmore?
Yeah, it generally was simply a turnback if you were delayed and/or reformed or if the extension was having problems. (I was Jubilee from 2001 for about a year before I transferred onto the District!)
@@video125com It was sometimes done routinely all weekend, if the line was closed east of Green Park; and there used to be a 'rusty rail' path down there after the morning peak which could be used for training.
Charing Cross Jubilee station was created as a merger of the stations Trafalgar Square (Bakerloo) and Strand (Northern) with the new Jubilee station in between those two, with the whole thing now considered a singje station.
Now that Charing Cross Jubilee is no more, the remaining platforms are too far to be considered an interchange.
Thus, wouldn't it'd be better if the Bakerloo station were named back to Trafalgar Square?
This Fleet Line service is for Thamesmead Central, and will call at Aldwych, Ludgate Circus, Cannon Street, Fenchurch Street, St Katharine Docks, Wapping, Surrey Docks North, Millwall, North Greenwich, Custom House, Silvertown and Woolwich Arsenal.
A closed station in Toronto has a busy life as a movie set, and training facility. This station is also good for short turning trains and as a location for LU to try other things.
Another possible future plan, is that the Docklands light railway could be extended from Bank, to here, via City Thameslink, where the building of the station allowed provision for a future extension of the Jubilee beyond Charing Cross. However, the tunnels would need to be expanded, and fitted with side walkways to allow this to all happen.
It's also pretty questionable how much demand there would be for another route between CX and Bank and the docklands. Trains into CX arrive from the east/south-east, so most passengers for Bank and docklands destinations would continue to change at London Bridge or elsewhere rather than stay on to CX. And those coming from the west would in many cases continue to use the faster Jubilee or Elizabeth lines. There are likely other routes to extend the DLR westwards which would give greater returns?
@@Reason077 I think it would be better if the DLR went to Farringdon via Moorgate & Barbican.
@@Mgameing123 Well, Farringdon is already on the Elizabeth line so that would also be duplicating an existing high-capacity route. Many passengers would likely find it faster to take the Elizabeth line and transfer to the DLR further east to complete their journey. Euston has also been suggested since it doesn't have a direct link to the docklands already.
@@Reason077 Elizabeth Line is faster yes but there are some smaller stations that people would rather take a direct train to. It would also be a cheap way of implementing the DLR.
Who's now got the Skyfall theme stuck in their head?
This station that opened in 1979 was actually two old stations, Strand and Trafalgar Square that were reconstructed into the new Charing Cross Jubilee Line terminus. There already exsisted a Charing Cross underground station on Distrct/Circle Lines, giving up it's name for the new station and then which became Embankment. The original Strand entrance can be seen in the 1967 film Robbery. It was demolished leaving just fixed stairs to lower level.
The old Strand signage is still there.
@@vespelian Is it really. Where? I used to work at Euston, everyday had to do a walk called 'a section 12', for fire precations. Had to walk in disused area, last used 1967. Still has old posters and signs. But very grubby.
@@ROCKINGMAN When I say signage I mean the old station name Strand. I noticed it last week when I came back up from Brighton to Somerset House. I'd never noticed it before, perhaps it's only recently been uncovered. I don't know.
@@vespelian Yes, I think you're referring to original Strand station, Piccadilly Line, later renamed Aldwych, lettering shows Strand.
@@ROCKINGMAN ... but the Aldwych Station has been closed nearly 30 years ? How could he have seen the At the Strand signage there ?
I remember using the Jubilee line from this station often back in the day, but glad they extended it.
This was also where the 2012 🇮🇳 Bollywood Blockbuster हिन्दी film ‘Jab Tak Hai Jaan’ starring Shah Rukh Khan & Katrina Kaif!!
Looks like the Charing Cross branch is still an active line like the Aldwych and probably just used for filming and maybe stuff like practicing train evaluations,etc..
Pretty much. Charing Cross is used if they need a more modern station for filming. A train normally is diverted in the off-peak off the main Jubilee line to run up and down the tunnel as needed.
A train went there yesterday with passengers on it!
Recently a train went back here by accident due to signal error
They should really put the ceiling covers back. I’m sure they can afford it after all the filming there. A scene in Thor and one from the Bourne trilogy were also shot there
They were removed because of the fire risk but with it now being a disused station it’s not worth the cost
@@BRMdrivingschoolIs it really abandoned ? It seems to be used for filming a heck of a lot. Must be a NLE for TfL to keep open.
If the Jubilee line went via Charing Cross and Waterloo, there would be 3 tube lines doing that route, and technically 4 if you include Southeastern from Waterloo East
I don't think that was ever on the cards. The original plan for the Fleet line (now Jubilee line) was for it to continue eastwards via Aldwych, Ludgate Circus (ie: City Thameslink), and Fenchurch Street, then join the current route through the docklands before going south-east to Thamesmead and Abbey Wood.
Used as a filming location and siding . A train with passengers stopped there by mistake a few days ago!!
Yes that was rather surreal ! I think a lot of us would have liked to be on that train though !
Thanks for the upload. Good to see some focus on the old Jubilee Line terminus at Charing Cross. Is that the voice of Rob Curling (former BBC London newsreader)?
Yes, he's narrated about a dozen of our productions and even presented a couple...
Could be. Rob Curling narrated the only two V125 videos that I have (on VHS!)
Yes I have a load of drivers eye view DVDs with him narrating. I was also on turnabout which he hosted
Jubilee Line 1996 Tube Stock
The over-run tunnels extend to Aldwych. Frankly such a major piece of infrastructure going begging without use is typical of the UK, the same non-use occurred at the Waterloo International terminal.
Running the DLR from bank to connect with it has been suggested, but I think that some of the other Marylebone services in a new section along Seymour Place to Marble Arch then under Hyde Park to Green Park to Aldwych would bring relief of traffic from the North West of the metropolis into the central core would be worthwhile.
Now days, the old Waterloo International (Eurostar) terminal forms platforms 20-24 at Waterloo, as well as a new underground shopping/dining concourse.
@@Reason077 Yes, but they lay unused for at least EIGHT years! I don't know anywhere else this waste of infrastructure would happen. The fact is W'loo really needed additional platforms for local services even then.
@@uingaeoc3905 Yeah, but it took a LOT of time and money to reconfigure both the platforms and the track layout to make that happen. They had to be totally reconfigured to handle both far more trains (20X per hour, instead of 6) and more passengers (up to 1500 per train instead of 750). £170M was spent on the station works alone! You could argue the project could have been done in less time, but it was not just a simple case of reopening the platforms for a different use.
@@Reason077 The point I was making is that these were left for YEARS before they even began to think about repurposing them - of course it would cost to do so.
In fact they would not even look at bringing them into use until they had decided to improve ALL the local platforms and only then they went to do the WI first so they would not lose any platform space whilst the locals were to be improved.
Frankly with Network's 'Track record' - pun intended - I am surprised they did not refurbish WI platforms AFTER the rest!
I used Ashford International to travel regularly to Brussels. The domestic service remains but the international bit is mothballed.
0:30 I disagree, I used this line for years from CHX to Bond Street and it was always packed like sardines all day long again in the evening. No way was this a low usage station.
Not quite an abandoned station, is it? More like a pair of abandoned platforms, I'd say. The rest of Charing Cross station is open for business.
hope you got any Driver Eye View video planning coming?
Shame that the jubilee line never uses Charing cross station
It wasn't abandoned it just isn't needed anymore, they use it for films and TV now
I was wondering where the Tube scenes for Skyfall were filmed.
yes, really that is the only thing that this large terminus can be used for now. Extra revenue for LUL. I bet they charged at least £100,000 or more....
@@video125com For a big budget film like Skyfall i wouldn't be surprised.
There was an episode of Spooks filmed there too.
Charing Cross station on the Jubilee Line is now used as a place where trains reverse tracks if they terminate at Green Park station. So then, why couldn’t they reopen this part of the station and make some Jubilee Line trains terminate there instead?
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Remind me please. When the Jubilee (Fleet) was part of the Bakerloo line where did it diverge from the extant Bakerloo. Was it Elephant & Castle to Stanmore?
Half the services from the Elephant were split at Baker Street to either Stanmore (which was actually opened by the Metropolitan) and Queens Park/ Watford Junction. Of course the tube junctions still exist at Baker Street.
And a underground train went into here
Is the voiceover that of Rob Curling?
Only took crosrail 20 years
Just curious - in the drivers' eye view segment, what are the white T - shaped things with the black protrusions fixed to the right - hand side of the tunnel roughly every 2 metres? Some sort of radio transponders so drivers can speak to controllers? Passenger WiFi? Did they _have_ WiFi back in 2001? Even in a curved underground tunnel, and even if intended for microwaves as opposed to UHF, they still seem unnecessarily close together, at least to my non - engineering brain, for relays or repeaters or whatever..?
They are brackets that hold and separate two wires. These do two things: 1, a driver could clip a telephone on them and talk to control, 2, if he or she squeezed the wires together so that they touch, a relay would immediately drop the current to the track. This was an old system long before radios were used but is probably long out of use now for communication, though perhaps still used to drop the traction current in emergency.
I heard about people being dropped off there by mistake. Ha.
If you can’t get Jago Hazzard…at least you have the legendary T-t-t-t-turnabout Rob Curling
imagine if it actually went straight to charing cross
That actually happened by accident a couple of days ago
@@neilcobb1731 well i predicted that it actually happened
Should stick a Yeti on the platform.
1:11 Class 365 is that you?
occasional usage by Hollywood though
I remember you used to be able to enter Charing Cross Tube from Trafalgar Square, outside South Africa House. Was this the entrance to this abandoned station?
Not an abandoned station. The station and entrance are still there. It is the erstwhile Trafalgar Square station on the Bakerloo line. It's still there, in use and intact. It's just that is called Charing Cross now, and is connected to Charing Cross Northern by walkways. It no longer has an interchange to the Jubilee line. The interchange between those two lines is rather pointless now.
When I used it, you mostly entered through the train station. I remember as a teenager in the early seventies using Strand and Trafalgar Square and thinking they were very close together. A bit like Leicester Square to Covent Garden, where you can see one from the other. Ditto Swiss Cottage and Finchley Road.
1:13 yeah like
They won’t even turn off the lights in there?
I just think of all the work that went into building it all.Shame.
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During my time with the British Transport Police we used the old Charing Cross Jubilee Line station jointly with the Metropolitan Police for public order and arrest scenario training in what is a hostile environment..
When stations remain stationary [ pun!! ]. MIND THE GAP!!!! PLEASE KEEP FEET OFF SEATS!!!!!! HEY WHERE ARE YOU GOING? BETTER NOT BE THE TUNNEL OR THE TRACKS, that wouldn't be good!!!
What a waste.😠
why so mad?