Psychedelic Satori VS Meditation
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Is enlightenment possible through the use of Psychedelics? And if it is, does the experience rival the Satori or Kensho states brought on by strict Meditative practices alone? Are there differences? Watch this video to find out!
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To me psychedelics is just to show you what you're missing out on. Meditation is to build a habit for more awareness in your daily life.
agreed ☺
No. Take a look at Black Tantra - if you want to storm the gates of heaven!...
agreed, for me by using psychedelics you can "remember" what it is..so by meditating you can keep aware..
Skylar Where did you learn to fly?
ki THANK YOU... I really needed to see this analogy, have a fantastic day
Never stop making videos, even when you're 78 ok?
I feel like that number is oddly specific..
fhbgb bruh this has me fucked up, what if he experienced something through satori that all he is allowed to say is for adam to keep making videos especially when 78????
@@baronwright2352 what if this bro saw in a trip something terrible happening to adam at the age of 78 and wants him to make videos despite dat
A sexy bald old men talk about his thousen of trips
Never stop making comments, even when you died . ok?
Awesome content as always man. So true about these "spiritual" people letting their ego get in the way of seeing the legit potential of psychedelics
+Your Mate Tom Psychedelics can only serve as a glimpse. Their use lies in the fact that newer generations coming up can through their use be thwarted from their inheritance of the naive realism of older generations towards the creation of a more idealistic way of viewing reality, which in turn has the power to induce positive change at a systematic level through the revolutionising of the established institutions. Psychiatry would undoubtedly be the first to be overthrown with it's dehuminising mechanistic view of the functioning of the human being. Mental illnesses could be viewed as a spiritual disorientation (which they truly are) but first the entire nature of what a human being is needs to be called into question, which can come about through more and more interest in philosophical matters such as the so-called hard problem of consciousness for instance. The possibility of a collective shift is scoffed at generally but it is possible, although not probable to come about peacefully or smoothly, psychedelics are one of the potential ways it could happen in such a manner though although through a survey of human culture and the direction it's going this is not much more than a pipe dream.
+ronfan69 Man, everything you just said resonates with me so well.
+ronfan69 Mate youre so right about the ilnesses... Autism is just an extreme case of wanting what you have planned, mentally prepared... Everyone got every disease in him, but the one just got it worse than the other...
Psychedelics are amazing... The problem is, the more something can help you, the more it can destroy you... Lsd for example, it can amazingly help you with proper guidance like Cheyenne got :) But once alone in a depressed state, it can turn intense and you might lose grip to reality...
Another problem is them beign illegal... Once proper studied, they can make proper therapeutic rooms for them, and have lsd or mdma therapy, that way they can really get over something, with proper guidance, instead of doing it on yourself or something...
Nonetheless, psychedelics are amazing, they are truly nature's beautiful teachers :)
+Your Mate Tom Just checked out your channel dude. You're Awesome!
+Agustín Videla thank you :)
I think it's actually very common to experience psychedelic enlightenment, the hard thing that very few people pull off is integrating the wisdom once they return to sobriety. When someone says "bro, look at the plants", the observation seems extremely important at the time. But the brilliant revelation is lost almost instantaneously, which is the problem.
When I was on acid, I saw birds and thought "This is their feeding ground, they were here before us." I knew at the time that thought was one of the most important things I've ever realized, but now I have no idea what the significance is.
personally, I would argue that that thought is not enlightenment, as intense as it could be at the time, I would say that that experience you described, is part of the build-up towards it, as in one of the many philosophical breakthroughs you must experience before it, if you keep on that path you will definitely will experience one soon, as I've experienced or I believe so at least a glimpse of it, I was just blown into a state in which I understood that there was no difference between me, that rock, and the whole plain of existence there was no thoughts, no imagination, no visuals (actually it happened quite randomly after a trip) yet everything appeared to be like in "true 3D", is a state of being, I've never been more present ever, no future no past, actually, that was the moment when I learned what to be present is, and, believed it or not, the experience I descrived was perhaps 20 seconds long. yet Will never be forgotten :)
I was about to say exactly what kaahrl Odemark said. On point.
I once read a study report on LSD and how it affects the brain, and it was said that LSD enhances a part of your brain which is responsible for the feeling of importance and truthfulness
of your thoughts. This is a reason why i'm a bit sceptical about these universal insights. Maybe an individual who consumes a psychedelic and who is looking to find these answers will think about this stuff while tripping, see them as undeniable truth because of his altered state of mind and when he comes back to himself, remember how true these insights were.
Maybe if you combine ego loss and enhanced feeling of veracity, you get "I'm everything and nothing at once and that's a fact".
I'm not taking a shit on your beliefs though, I myself am not sure of anything and I'm only sceptical.
ive had satori on MDMA during the fourth of July, I realized everything really was me. We were in the car driving to my friend Maxines house to pick up her jacket or something, It was like I began to feel like I was made of pure air, it was then I realized I was made of literally nothing and all of this was a sort of game or hologram. I was frightened at first, I wanted to jump out of the car, I was about to flip out! But then I just accepted it, as it was, I let it be and with that realization came a wave of pure love and euphoria that I can still feel to this day. There were fireworks everywhere and my friend was blasting Lean On. I was met with the most euphoric and exciting sensation of my life as I realized that all my fear was in vain and that everything truly was the same vibration as me, the one thing. I kept having this understanding that I had been there before actually, and that this is all it was. I was having flashbacks too, of my life, like everything in my entire life had been setting me up for this night. There were colors everywhere, and I knew with every aspect of my being that this was all tied to ME in some clever but magnificent way. I had full realization of all my capability, I remember people lighting off fireworks but it was like I would clap my hands and then there'd be fireworks, or I would look to my right and there would be my friend. It was like I had total control over reality but at the same time there was the ILLUSION that I didn't have total control over reality. Like I did but I didn't at the same time and that's part of what made the experience better then anything I had ever experienced before. We spent the rest of the night driving around, enjoying peoples company, and ended the night up on the Viewpoint where you could see fireworks from Portland. There were even people at the viewpoint who were drinking and partying so there were tons of people to talk to and stuff. Crazy ass night.
love it and please read your notes in a video
Agreed
+JonasSkillsHD Yeah, please
YES PLEASE!
great video :))
+JonasSkillsHD yep
+JonasSkillsHD Yes. He should read the best, most unique ones.
I feel like when your ego starts deteriorating from a profound psychedelic experience, one of two things occur. One, you start to panic and do whatever you can to get your sense of "self" back; or two, you let it happen and you become a channel for wisdom through the universe.
I agree
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I had both happen my brain made me think that I had died cuz I had no prior knowledge of ego deaths and Ironically I was just like I died to my friends vut I wasnt bugged out I was just kinda calm about it more confused than anything on what just happened but then I was starting to worry an was fighting it not wanting to die so young an having so much more to live for an all that but after a while I began to just say well if im dead im dead nothing else to do but enjoy things as they are it was very unusual
adam delude hmm thats interesting haha
very nicely said
A set of 365 Koans: "The Whole World Is a Single Flower".
You can get it on Amazon or find a pdf online.
I am a very philosophical person, though I've never been spiritual or religious. Psychedelics helped me to organize my thoughts, and 'see' things as they are.
I don't really know how to explain what I'm saying without going into detail about the trip and the events that led up to it, but I certainly had an experience of understanding how everything worked and fit together.
I understood how my brain worked, which helped me to understand how 'me' works as well - what 'I' am, and how the concept of 'me' came to exist. This helped me to understand my actions, my anxieties and my behaviors.
I suppose I got a clear understanding from a scientific point of view, exactly what the ego is, and why it exists. I understood how it is supposed to help humans, and why it causes problems.
Above all of this I came away with a changed personality. I look at all people as... people. I feel that I can better understand the events that lead to their behaviors, and can therefore more easily accept them.
I suppose I technically knew these things before the trip happened, but the fact that these concepts seemed more profound to me while tripping gave them more relevance to me in day-to-day life.
Never heard anyone really talk about this stuff. I'm glad you were saying these things because it makes me feel a lot better and helps me understand my experiences. I've had a few glimpses into these states usually when listening to profound and moving instrumentals for hours on end. Thank you for existing and thank you universe for bringing us all together
when i smoke weed i feel like the rocks and trees are looking at me
+tranquil They are they want your babies
That's some dank shit.
They want a puff too, stop being such a hogger, let that flower have some.
+Stas Twinkleton let that flower have some.... flower xD
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Agree 100%When people have these profound moments they definitely write them off as meaningless and just go back into the flow of reality. What I did was begin to take notes and focus on particular words. Then the epiphany happened. This took a few weeks. Eventually I realized after lots of research that I was experiencing Satori during peaks as a result of my epiphany and I was learning so much on top of that. Also agree it is for sure exhausting but those moments are beautiful. I’ve been a much better and happier person. This all happened very recently. Your videos have been so helpful, thank you.
I swear, you are the future Terrence McKenna. I SWEAR. You are young, you need to continue your research, your travel throught the mind. You have a big potential. In 5 or 10 years, you will become a psychedelic/psychological/psychonaut reference as Allan Watts or Terrence. I don't believe in God but : Bless you.
hes not clever enough
You"re not clever enough. He's*
You're*
Acid God doesn't believe in God. lol.
Acid God: Is like if you are talking to yourself in front a mirror! JA JA JA>>>!
the satori experience sticks with you forever it's amazing
Every time SWIM uploads a new video I get this weird, tingeling sensation in my asshole... why is this?
Your kundalini is telling you to practise Black Tantra!
"Downloads from the universe" has happened to me many times. It usually occurs as I "zone out" for dozens of seconds at a time. It's an interesting state of existence... it truly is a STATE.
Daydreaming
Though if you can stretch out your pupils like me. It is interesting, no thought just enjoyment and being very gullible when I talk to people.
+Box Boi who are you to say what another experiences?... especially based upon a simple youtube comment. It's no different than meditation. Information isn't always encoded as direct language. when I zone out like this, there is nothingness. Not a thoughtful daydream. I don't dream anything. I'm directly AWARE of what's going on. Spontaneous channeling is a better description I'd say. It's a feeeeeling. I've been meditating for years and I blame much of my wisdom from that... but it's never been a classroom where there is a speaker using language. Consciousness is strange like that. shit just flows.
+Improve Humanity | Behind the Eyelids I just said "If you were like me." holy shit buddy
its awesome that entire generations(subsequent to mine) still have in interest in exploring these things(psychedelics, Astral travel, spiritual growth etc).....but it sure seem(s/ed) like its much less prevalent(virtually extinct)....or so I thought.....glad I was wrong ! ....I guess its just an artifact of age/not really being "on the scene" .......RE: enlightenment .....I think its important to stress, not to think of it as a goal or a destination with an end point but rather a path/journey/way of being......cool authentic vids
Psychics will never die out, im 16.
Now they are becoming mainstream in science!
Adam, I was watching your video on satori because I didn't know what it was. As you described it as a state of everything being perfect just the way it was, it reminded me exactly of the feeling I got when I took three tabs of I'm only guessing were about 150 micrograms each. The experience was overwhelming at about an hour and 20 minutes after taking the LSD. The same kind of ringing in your ears you mentioned in some of your previous videos you described a DMT trip. I was alone in my house and the dead silence slowly started to become ringing and it kept getting louder. As the ringing got louder, light got brighter and brighter till it was overwhelming and my room felt like it was collapsing into my head. I ran outside thinking maybe the sound of nature would stop the ringing. It didn't, I ran back inside and fell onto my bed. I don't know how long I was laying there, it couldn't have been more than five minutes. I woke up and didn't know who I was or where I was, but I didn't feel sick at all anymore and I knew I had just ego deathbed and was going to be completely fine. I looked at my almost dead phone and saw I had to meet a person for a weed deal. It was like my mission. I skated down the half mile trying to figure out how human society worked and what the purpose of life was. After the deal, I realized how happy cruising on the perfect day, on the perfect road made me feel. I Skated for another three hours tripping balls asking myself all these things about life and then it hit me as I saw the sun setting, with the wind blowing, and the birds chirping. I had no idea if I was going to know what the meaning of life was when I discovered it but when I did I had no doubt that that was it. Living for the experience of living. Doing whatever makes you truly happy. I believe at this moment I actually achieved a satori state, I just didn't know it at the time. The way I described it to my friends was at that point in time, there was no way that anyone at that moment in time was more filled with pure joy than me. I just thought Id share the story of the time I tired to ego death on purpose by myself on 450 micrograms because none of my questions had been answered with my previous attempts. -Ben
I totally think you should start making videos outside while it's bright outside! =D
+Alex Ω You have no idea how excited I am to start doing this! Soon as winter ends :). There is actually still snow on the ground where I live.
+SWIM Wow for some reason I am actually legitimately looking forward to seeing your videos outside. It'd be a big change of pace in the atmosphere of your videos :D
Take the Shadow Moses.
+Alex Ω That would be cool from time to time.
Alex Ω
Maybe he is allergic to pollen
I had a satori experience at my first mdma trip and then even more intense after the peak of 3.7 cubensis bad trip, when waters calmed down. It is hard to explain what I felt after that shroom trip, my mind was calm, my ego was not there, everything seemed simple and spot on. But this is just like an idea of how I felt. The sensation... I cannot describe it in words. Even now, after months have passed, I still learn new things from that shroom trip, that was the most profound thing that ever happened to me, it changed me to my very roots, it was like I was born again. I think everyone should experience that at least once. Many people that don't know, think that people take psychedelics just to see weird stuff, but actually it's more about what you feel, than what you see. The visuals are just the first part of the trip, what happens next is actually the interesting part. It awakens things that were dormant inside of you.
I'm glad to have you speak for us. thank you
3 years ago after exploring lots of different spiritual books and practices something incredible happened to me. I felt a distinct buzzing sensation at the back of my head for almost 20 minutes after becoming aware of my own mind (thoughts, immediate emotional reactions etc). I became aware that these things were not under my own conscious control. For example if someone did something mildly irritating my mind would fly in with a thought or an emotion and affect my mood, without me consciously doing anything at all...I began to notice this happening more and more, and soon I was able to "watch" these thoughts happening in my head. I became aware of my own mind. This was a huge turning point in my life. I've drastically improved my awareness of my mind, emotion and everything around me. When I read "what you are searching for in life is already within you" I didn't really get it. Now I understand. When you consciously become aware of your mind, you can control or completely get rid of any negativity associated with it. I truly believe the sensation was the opening of my crown chakra, something I didn't know about until 2 years later (or I've something wrong with my brain...! Hopefully the former ha). Peace
I've had similar experiences, glad there's other people that really use the tools in the way they are meant to be used! :)
I thought I was writing new material come to find out it was already written lol. Definitely a humbling experience.
Your approach to these videos have become increasingly professional and eloquent, this is everything youtube needs in regards to psychedelic awareness.
I had once a psychedelic satori with weed.Maybe I have to mention that I meditate and read spiritual books also.So to the story.. I was at friends house and we were chilling and smoking weed non stop.And immediately I knew that every existence in this universum knows each other since for ever.So every stranger that you will meet is in fact an existence you already know.And not only people also things like plants and rocks and everything else. I felt a tremendous relieve and couldn`t stop smiling for the next 15minutes.
Wired were the eyes of a horse on a jet pilot
One that smiled when he flew over the bay
My source is the source of all creation
Her, discourse, is that we all don't survey
The skies, right before
Right before they go gray
My source, and my remorse
Flying over a great bay
Haha it was the EXACT same for me. I had an out-of-the-blue Satori state on my first LSD trip. I remember saying to my friend "So THIS is what those eastern religions talk about". Thanks to you I found Alan Watts about 2 weeks later and felt like he read my mind, but was so much better to putting everything into order and articulate it. I gotta say though watching your videos, especially here on SWIM does the same trick sometimes ;) Hope your ego is present when you read this so it can feel patted on the head a little ;) please keep up that amazing work!!!!
I find it pretty funny that as you're describing Alan Watts, it sounded like exactly how I would describe how I felt when I found your videos (granted, I haven't had the privilege of experiencing a psychedelic trip thus far). I'll really have to check him out! Needless to say the world we live in is the real trip and I've had broad enough studies in physics and mathematics to suspect everything is fundamentally connected at some level. You could say I'm pretty stoked with anticipation to see what my first trip has to show me. Keep up the amazing work!
+RubixB0y I can relate to everything you just said :)
I feel you man. I've only had two LSD trips about a year apart, the second one being this past weekend thanks to the work of people like this guy and Terence McKenna. I'm certain if you respect the substance, make sure it's legit and safe, and carefully plan out your day, you will have a gorgeous experience man. If learning and enlightenment is what you're looking for, I think many would recommend a plant teacher, like shrooms or the more intense and rare ayahuasca DMT, etc.. Much luck to you my friend!
DUDE! The notes ( I have piles and piles)... Alan Watts and how listening to him now, I am constantly caught off guard when I hear him say something I thought I had authored myself.
LMAO you listening to Alan Watts is the exact same way I feel watching alot of your videos
Every video you make I truly believe are waking people up! Keep these up! Thank You Kind Sir
Dat closeup at 3:09
See, this is why I love Adam. He includes very subtly funny things, and sometimes you think "well, that's dumb", and other times you don't realize he is fucking with you until it's after the fact. Regardless, this guy's sense of humor is amazing
I experienced satori for my first time last sunday.
I was in Amsterdam with some friends, got ourselves quite a large dosis of magic truffles and decided later on to smoke the strongest weed I've ever tried. It was such an amazing experience. It was as if the substance was an entity on its own, and I could feel it swimming through my mind, holding its hands around the essence of me, while my head was almost exploding with energy (in a very positive way). When I closed my eyes, I was flying in my mind, and the substance was guiding me, showing me through several rooms in my mind as we were moving deeper and deeper in. It was trying to show me something, the truth about me and the Universe. I fully embraced this and let go of all control, because I could feel that everything was okay, and I was extremely happy and accepted everything. The shackles on my mind had been unlocked, and my mind was truly free.
What I found out was that I was the Universe, and the Universe was me. That's the only way I can describe it. I felt like I could just stay there forever, because everything was just okay. There was no good or bad. I just was. It got me thinking, why do these shackles usually stay locked?
Although psychedelics can be scary, they can also really be amazing, and this is why I want to explore even more and develop myself as a human being.
Can you please read us those notes
Why though? He said it was the same things that Alan Watts has commuicated more eloquently, as if all his ideas were somehow "stolen" and brought to the past. If that's true (not literally of course), which I have no reason to believe that it's not, then he's basically already told you where to find them.
adam.. me finding you feels like how you would describe "downloading from the universe" (forget my inexcusable english).. thank you for existing.
by far the best channel on youtube!
That's one thing that always baffled me. I've too seen friends take way more drugs than myself and never get past a certain stage. I never could understand it! But you're after figuring it out!! Before I took any psychedelics I had about 2-3 years of meditation under my belt ( in the last year I was meditating 6-12 hours a day ) and I'd studied OSHO, Watts, the Tibetan Book of The Dead, and had a good understanding of life, at least thought I did. I'd had groundbreaking and ego-shattering experiences sober with meditation that changed my whole perspective and what I'd call a "glimpse" too. Then months after this I dived deep into psychedelics. And from my first trip I had a cocktail of things but I experienced everything you mentioned in your last video about what LSD feels like. This was 2 years ago. I remember at one point at the forms in the world, the trees, the people, everything did this weird geometrical retraction thing, and instead of having a thing being built in front of me, I felt like life itself was just this hologram being deconstructed to reveal the light - the source of all that is. Now in my meditation experience I'd seen a similar thing but the light was nowhere near as bright because I hadn't got that far through meditation yet. Again, words don't really do either situation justice haha But I 100% agree with you. Psychedelics can be tools to reach these states, and they are like the "cheat" to reach these states ( I don't even want to say that because I don't want to imply it's bad to use them this way. As long as you use them responsibly and understand what your are getting yourself into ), but they can be dangerous because everything on Psychedelics manifest quicker. So you gotta be 100% ready to face yourself and all your shit in a flash...whereas meditation lets you face all that BS in a slow, gentle way. Love your videos!
Kensho is a temporary glimpse, whereas Satori is 'stream entry'. This means it is (semi) permanent. Imagine we are, in terms of our esoteric anatomy, like tubes. The bottom end of the tube is open ended and leads into total darkness (the seeming non-existence awaiting us after death). The top of the tube has a lid on it, with a vague amount of light shimmering through it acting as our consciousness. Kensho is like the lid being lifted briefly, and a substantial amount of light gets in and illuminates the being for a time, though afterwards the lid is placed back on and it's as if this experience never happened aside from the memory one retains of it. With satori the lid is also lifted temporarily, however when it is placed back on, it's as if someone stabbed a hole in the center of it, and a thin beam of light is shining down through the middle of the being and into what before appeared to be the 'nothingness' at the bottom end of the tube exposing death to be an illusion.
This beam serves as a permanent gravitational pull towards full awakening through the activation of the force of intuition. The lower death drive (for physical death) is switched off and the higher death drive (for psychic or ego death) comes much more into fruition, and the stream enterer will tend to have several more awakenings in their lifetime, especially if they ever face traumatic circumstances; any experience that would usually cause a person to mentally break down and be traumatized instead would lead to an automatic re-awakening. It's said if the stream enterer fails to reach full enlightenment in that lifetime, they will tend to again attain satori early into their following life times and have successively greater opportunities each lifetime to go all the way, which would not take much longer than a few lives.
Very nice description!
The ending is very true. Ive eaten psychedelic muchrooms 3 times in a period of 2 months around 3 yrs ago. Im just now starting to yearn for a new experience and a new lesson.
lmao i've had that "plants are alive" talk with quite a few :P
Listening to you is like listening to a more intelligent version of myself. The things that I already know, but explained in a way which I can communicate to others. Thank you so much for these awesome videos.
I look forward to this later video you're doing on integrating psychedelic experiences into everyday life! :)
This is probably one of the most important and valuable videos on this channel and yet it has so few views.
why do you feel that staying on satori state is exhausting and stop wanting it? I would have imagined that you'd love to keep in such an enlightenment state like forever
+robertoarod I should have elaborated more on this. During my first experience, I wasn't ready for what I witnessed, and as such I was inclined to see things from a darker vantage point the days following. During the experience its self it was beautiful. But when my ego began to re-engage I started to distort the message. Everything can be seen from two sides. When this happened, I wanted to quickly forget it all. I didn't feel like I could handle it. I see things much differently now, but this on its own took work.
+SWIM I have had the same kind of reaction to one of my experiences and it spilled over to the way I viewed/view myself. At this point I'm just like: fuck it all, I have to believe in destiny and that I do what I do best and just try to roll with it and still work with it instead of opposing whatever comes my way. I surfed a big wave. I crashed. I could either appreciate the thrill or whine about getting kicked off. I went with the thrill, "getting kicked off" now translates into "I lost balance" and I just sorta go with the flow. I've realized that being humble is very important as I was told. But no one ever told me why, so here's the way I see it for everybody reading. Humility has little to nothing to do with other entities/people. It has to do with your inner being. When I feel pride, it is my inner being. When I feel worthless, it is my inner being. And being humble, the way I see it, is how you quiet your inner being. You are infinite and therefore your humility and devotion has to go where that credit is due. Towards yourself.
I Appreciate the videos they are useful to me.
+David Rokkedahl Love the idea a out humilty. Kinda of thought in the same way. thank you !
+robertoarod this experience, for me at least, is like an incredible compass in life - something to use for finding path. You always need to move your eyes from the GPS to focus on the road, it will still be by your side next time you need it.
+robertoarod then do it right now. sell all of your possessions and donate your life to helping others 24/7....yeah doesnt sound too fun.
you're really bang on the money with this analysis. Gnosticism dwells on the the subject of (unconditionally) acquired knowledge from higher sources, as well as concepts from buddhism and hinduism - incredibly interesting. You have really put thought into this, I can tell, and your conclusion as to why this is possible - coincides perfectly with my own experience. This is the way of the divine transformation of humanity ॐ
Blunt and to the point is the best way to communicate. Don't try to waffle on and cut you information to make it sound more authoritative or esoteric (i.e. Alan Watts). The meaning often gets lost in mumbo jumbo, well at least to my short attention span mind.
And screw these meditation guru elitists who dismiss or reject psychedelic experiences as a tool for enlightenment. Not everybody has time to sit on a rock for 20 years.
i dont know how much you read/heard from alan watts, but the way he explains things with analogies and eloquent language really helps imo.
If you do not meditate it is clear it is not the only way to enlightenment. Very good. Look forward to hearing more of your wisdom.
Do a video on your notes.
your beliefs are your truth, everything is possible ;) also downloads from the universe are not strange at all, i get them often as well. I think being enlightened is just knowing and maintaining the most beneficial truth for yourself and the universe, which we are constantly discovering.
Nice video as always!
Greetings from germany :)
1:49 The moment that the phrase "ignorance is bliss" brought new meaning. I went from a state of complete comfort and control, to feeling anxious.
Hey honey, it might be true that some meditators who have yet not reached certain states are still holding to their ego and looking down on people using psychedelics. However, the people who have reached higher states through meditation are not likely doing this. The reason they are saying psychedelics cannot "take you there" is because... well, that's how it is. Psychedelics can show you a glimpse of enlightenment, or satori as zen buddhists call it (remember that zen buddhism is only one type of buddhism and it is not the oldest one), but it is kinda the same thing as with how you can maybe do physical exercise longer on amphetamine, but that doesn't mean your physical abilities have gotten better. Brain is like a muscle: You have to train it to maintain that stage of enlightenment.
Although it is true that individuals can get great benefits from the use of psychedelics, and they might help to get motivation to proceed on "The Path", still, if one truly wants to follow the path, eventually the psychedelics will become obstacles that you have to get over. In the very beginning they might help though.
This is my personal opinion, after reaching certain stages through meditation and through psychedelics. But all that being said, after all everyone is their own master: You know the best what is best for you. If it's psychedelics, then go for it. Although the destination is the same, The Path might be a bit different for all of us.
Hello, I'm hoping you can point me in the right direction. Psychedelics are the only way I know how to go down the path, but after a few weeks my ego will begin to re-engage and I'll forget who I really am. Do you know what steps I should take next to maintain that stage of enlightenment ? Thank you
Stop taking substances and find a Roshi.
Nevermind. I found my answer
Sonja Ikonen youve probably never had a psychedelic experience lol
Hi ! I am a french pharm student who do meditation and who have taken psychedelics, and when i look at this it feel like YOU are the more efficient and clear version of myself and how i see things, thank you for your videos, really help me in the faith i have in becoming pharm searcher on psychedelics
I guess you kinda are my version of Alan Watts... chain goes on....
Ayyyyy. Fleetwood Mac
Contemporary language, same message
I had my dmt breakthrough through meditation. I havent had any psychodelics ever. My comparison may be irrevelant but dmt taking stories are relatable to me
.The thing about meditation is you are discovering the way to integrate truth simultaneusly while you are reaching and seeing the truth. So you have your ways to reach and knowledge on how the right way feels like which gives you ableity to discovery more ways. Which i believe is very important to contain yourself in the safe zone. I assume seeing a beutiful image, having an beutiful experience and not being able to know how to reach there is very downing as if you have no control to direct your experiences which is the most important part to me because that awareness/control is what makes you connect to the feeling of being god in the dmtland. Seeing that you can bring yourself to that dimension. Acknowledging your power. Owning your true self and the whole world as is. To me Integration is the main experience living in this real world. And i agree with being up in cosmos constantly would not be preferable.We are human we are here to experience the earth. There is party out there in cosmos ,go and bring some songs to play in this reality. To bring the party here. And when you dont know how to reach and bring them home you'd feel as if you know there is a party that you can not attent to.Which is depressing. I recommend everyone that is interested in higher realities to meditate. Not with restricting or pushing yourself but with ease , build a practice that you come regularly. It is a long journey so do it with ease. Look for easiness calmness. To have sustainable experiences both in the world and up in the cosmos
Kenshō made me into an anarchist.
I have reached satori while on LSD. My best friend and I were in the same place... when the "universal download" of knowledge would occur one of us would begin describing the realization and within 2 words of an extremely complex explanation our minds would become ONE and the idea would be understood instantly. I also was aware that everything in my life had led to this exact moment, NOW. In this place I knew everything, and in this place life was not worth living anymore because i already learned everything I could possibly experience. My mind creates my reality, and my brain is constantly in the process of creating. Everything is ONE. While most of my realizations cannot be understood in this realm, I know that inside of me is infinite knowledge and infinite potential, which I try to fit into daily life in this society of deception and enslavement.
would love to see some of those notes :)
Man, your truly amazing. These states of satori have changed my life forever, cant wait to see your next vid on how to imply the lessons ito everyday life i think lots of people need help with that one :) your the best Adam :)
I await your meditation video.
you just put exactly my mindset after my last trip into words, never knew how to describe the epiphany I felt, this video is very relatable for me, great content brotha.
PLEASE publish all your notes!
Watched this video for the first time knowing almost nothing about satori and zen buddhism. A year later I have read ''The Book'', from Alan Watts, and I'm now reading "Introduction to Zen Buddhism", by DT Suzuki. Have had one LSD experience that didn't do much and I'm a month away from doing it for the second time trying to look through a new perspective. I'm also medidating a lot and exercising my mind. Thank you for showing me this hole new reality, Adam. I was going through a really tough time last year and you've helped me a lot.
Anyone here read Eckhart Tolle? What do you think about him and living in the present?
+IVIaster Zox He served as an 'avatar' for very ordinary people, those of middle-late age who grew up in a time with very little access to spirituality, hence many of which needlessly drove themselves insane because of unconsciousness. His message was basically 'look, you're thinking all the time without realising it'. Newer generations however, such as the one's those watching this video mostly belong to, since we live in an age with such an abundance of information on esoteric matters due to the internet, should possess this understanding off the bat and when we get to middle age should be getting into more advanced practice/understanding as that is the time to do so. Unfortunately however, history looks to be repeating itself and people are paying little attention to the kind of information that can set them free spiritually and change the world if enough people do so. The ego scoffs at spirituality because it exposes it for being the fraudulent entity it is.
+ronfan69 *"The ego scoffs at spirituality because it exposes it for being the fraudulent entity it is."* Beautifully written.
+ronfan69 Perfectly put. I don't see too much of a difference between older generations and newer generations - social conditioning promotes some fairly vicious cycles. I see little difference in the awareness and potential for awareness for the 50 year old corporate on the train, sitting glued to their phone, and the 20 year old with their face smashed even closer to their Instagram account/Facebook feed (I'm generalising here).
+SWIM Have you heard of Bashar and/or any of his lectures?
someone once said: would you like to dance with eckhart tolle?
I've taken LSD about 5 times now always at a lowish dose but recently took 3 tabs. I was completely blown away by the experience! It was nothing like anything I had felt on the lower doses and I genuinely at the time knew all there was to know about existence as a whole (Its so mentally draining but indescribably eye opening). As you mentioned in the video, the memories get slightly blurred and the emotion (emotion probably isn't the right word to explain the feeling you get from reaching this state) fades slightly over time. Would love to see another video following on where this one left off some time. Big fan of both your channels and keen for your future videos.
a video on your notes would be cool
Adam, to elaborate on your point satori state achieve through mediation are more likely to retain is also through the brain wiring chemistry that has changed without any substances. The observer learn to see the ego thinking mind without judgements while meditating (being sober). Meditation practitioners has to learn to surrender and allow the experiences that arises within them and their daily lives, internally and externally with no judgements. That everything which is happening to us, is just happening as it is. Whether it is mentally, emotionally, physically or spiritually. Inside or outside of us.
Also, meditation practitioners who achieve satori don't look down on substance users who achieve satori state through psychedelic but rather view the idea as temporary substance "side effects", not the users. Using substance acts only as a clutch to get a glimpse/a peek of what truly is.
Using substance with no efforts may end up getting a quick result which will surely backfires back at the user because the foundation is not strong. Easy to achieve results (satori), easy to lose it too.
Peace and love
Would be interesting to hear some of your best and worst notes.
+Jack W "and worst notes" that's definitely important :)
Thank you so much, I appreciate you giving the context from the chemical and physical differences in practices and practical happenings of behavior from the states of consciousness that are at the reach of your hands. I have experienced many different states through meditation as well as ego the die. That occurred only on weed and alcohol(crossed my legs and read a verse from a book).
If you've heard Osho, he has acknowledged that if you want to get a glimpse of enlightenment you should try a dose of LSD as it recreates the exact feeling of understanding that a person get when he/she becomes enlightened. Although as said in the video that would wear down slowly and true enlightenment can be achieved via meditation itself.
I think I felt satori during a very peculiar marijuana come down; while walking around in Central Park South with a friend. I don't remember all of my super calm ramblings, but I specifically remember telling my friend that the most beautiful part of my life was that my mom was comfortable with me staying out late because she knew deep down inside I would always return safely. I don't remember exactly what I saw in that revelation, but it made me super calm and it focused my entire being on the present. It was probably the most beautiful come down I ever experienced, ever.
I'm the dude that says "but you know...Plants are alive " XD
+Jonn Well thats okay :)
I've found that talking out what you've learned with someone really helps to retain and expand inerstanding. At first you will find it hard to complete sentences at all clearly but, if you keep going back to the start of the thought and try again you'll get further along. Just keep doing that process until you can clearly say what is in your mind. It really helps to hear yourself speak the ideas.
I wish you read some of the notes you made!
The way you described pychedelic satori is exactly how i felt my first dmt experience was. At the time i was living in my van alone, (which i still do) very unhappy with my life, kind of lost,and angry for the situation i was in. i was using lsd and pycilocibin probably once or twice a month and reading a lot into the dmt; peoples experiences, the positives (alot), the negatives, how to do it properly, and impropperly, what could happen, i was listening to terence mckenna lectures and alan watts lectures every night, i was studying harder for this than anything else ive studied for in my life. and one night after work, after finally finding swim, and having this stuff for several weeks, i just decided fuck it, lets do it. i smoked 35mg with weed in a pipe, and within 7 or 8 hits my world had compeltely changed into a very confortable and beautiful place. i felt like everything and everyone in existence existed and exist for a reason, because every single event in time leads up to what our linear-time percieving conciousness's would call the present and future. And after i came out of the trip, i just felt happy. i was content with my life. Everything was perfect the way it was, because all events that have happened, are going to happen, and are happening are all just one big bubble. And we all just observers within this giant time-space based bubble. Reality itself could not be more perfect and beautiful.
But, just like you said, as months went by i started to get back into my routine and feel less "enlightened". Although that first experience still changed my life for the better, the effects, which i thought would last a lifetime, started to fade.
If this was indeed was a Satori state, and i can reach that and keep it, without the use of pychedelics, then i believe i have a lot more studying to do.
Could you also do stuff about meditation on this chanel ?
Would be realy cool :D
Can you do a video on meditation and how to?
+Macabre If you really want to get into meditation there's PLENTY of videos that already explain how it is done.
+Macabre The very idea you need to be taught how to meditation is none other than the ill you are being cured of by doing meditation. Usually you don't realise you are thinking. Meditation is sitting still and realising you are thinking.
+Yofie 乁( ◔ ౪◔)ㄏ not many with an authentic psychedelic background though.
The Yogic path. Tibetan yogis are the" real" masters as much as I could find out
hermeticists
alchemists Different paths, same goal
shamans
yogis
During my psychedelic satori experience I got downloaded with mental alchemy and other occult knowledge, the strange thing is the downloads were more like a voice. It told me I was enlightened and I at the time i didn't even know what enlightenment was. later I found this video and was shocked and started asking around about enlightenment and some dude I got speaking to sent me occult knowledge. Its then that I realised I had been downloaded with occult knowledge I have never researched or heard of at all.
What about meditating on psychedelics?
+Nik Both go sooo well together, you'd be surprised.
+Kluorpivhlander P. Haha yeah... I meditated on ~250ug of LSD last night. I entered a deep meditative state and experienced (what I believe to be) ego death for the first time. Caught me off guard but it was beneficial in the end.
Nik
I personally had in some degree ego-dissolution but not that strong obviously, this was on my last 4th LSA trip using 17 HBWR (low potency) seed drink using CWE method.
At the peak of the trip of the trip felt like a tiny cosmic cloud moving simultaneously in various distances, felt my body parts, my face morphing like snakes, but still had my foot in this reality, it was a blissful, i still was intact to my ego, but at the same moment i felt it was in a sense quite meaningless (my ego) in a larger scale of things, it was weird, nothing mind-blowing or chaotic just smooth and calm...
+Kluorpivhlander P. Interesting. Thanks for sharing. I experienced the ego dissolution as neither good nor bad. Being free of the ego and all the suffering it causes is somewhat like bliss but at the same time it was empty and led to restlessness. There was nowhere to go from there and ultimately led to my ego coming back. Hard to describe, because I wasn't really feeling or thinking, I simply was, and I was aware.
Nik
Ego sometimes can really become like a spoiled child, it's hard to deal with, and it pissed you off, and demands a lot... ;)
There was this guy named Ram Das who did a lot of LSD in the 50s and 60s then went to india and met a buddist master. They gave him LSD and after a few hours the monk came back and said "meditation is better", then Ram Dass became a buddist guru because he wanted the perminint enlightenment rather than the fleeting one.
+Eli Kelley While Ram Dass met many Buddhist teachers, his Guru was technically Hindu, though not really of any religion, he constantly went around saying, "It's all one," in Hindi. Ram Dass is most closely associated with Hinduism, as he's a Bhakti Yogi. That's why we call them both "Baba". He gave his Guru a lot of LSD. Twice. Can't remember the exact measurements. Nothing happened to his Guru either time at four plus hits, possibly a lot more. Because his Guru was always in that state. The Guru said, "The Yogi medicine--LSD--will take you into the room with Christ, but you cannot stay there. That Guru was called Neem Karoli Baba, or Maharaj-ji, a common moniker in India.
Who's watching this and seeing it as the Kermit the frog meme where it's himself but with a hood on
I practiced mindfulness for 7-8 months and started reading a lot of Eckhart Tolle, eventually i just got so sick of the voice in my head that i dedicated myself to letting go of all thoughts. After maybe a week or so of that things clicked. Suddenly nothing was wrong with me or anything else, my ego fell away, time fell away. The spiritual side of me says it was a flash of enlightenment and the scientific side says flow state. It also felt like wu-wei because i was doing nothing and yet became unreasonably effective socially. I met a girl and we started sleeping together within a week, i had been a virgin. It lasted about 2 weeks, things went south with the girl and i haven't wanted to be like that again. The price of feeling complete when you still have a lot to learn is a pretty heavy dose of disillusionment. Still the most meaningful experience of my life though.
I bet one of the notes was "My toaster is minty fresh"
I always appreciate your accurate Point of View, which is almost 95% similar to mine. Great!
Ich danke dir immer für deine genauen Beschreibungen, welche zu 95% mit meiner Sicht übereinstimmen. Großartig!
The purpose of meditation is raising awareness to start seeing things as they truly are, without distortions of the mind and it's endless thinking. It's similar to building a muscle, with enough awareness you'll realise, that ego is a illusion indeed and separation doesn't exist, all leading to enlightenment. Meditation isn't necessary for "building appreciation" lol =) Psychodelics are like cheat codes, you feel as you realised something, but reality is you didn't, that state is unstable and fleeting.
I'm not trying to dismiss psychodelics or trying to protect my "philosophy" , actually I'm looking forward to try them at some point, but it's just not the same thing. And the point of "nature specifically gave us mushrooms and other stuff to have satory states" is silly and simply projection. Nature gave us a lot of poisonous berries and mushrooms as well, is it purposefully to kill us? - no! Nature doesn't give a fuck, it just is =)
He didn't say anything about nature doing that! We aren't special, but Adam is being misquoted. Do micro-dose before a full on trip, please for your safety.
Best Birthday (mine) video EVER! Thank you. U r my doppelganger dude, I have done and said all that myself, great vids x
The universe is too fucking complicated for me
+Glenn Miles it is complicated because you choose to be so
Vote for trump, just like me
+Maxi Schmidt LOL
damn right ahahah. that's my conclusion most of the times
+Glenn Miles "The universe is not only stranger than we suppose, it is stranger than we can suppose."
I've taken many psychedelics, never really thinking that I've achieved a satori-like state. After watching this video, it occurs to me that I have absolutely had these experiences. I particularly resonated with the part about everything being perfect just the way it is. I had my first experience like this on DMT, in which I realized that the world keeps going, regardless of what we as humans do. this may sound like an existential crisis, however I believe it differs because instead of feeling a feeling of hopelessness, I feel an overwhelmingly feeling of oneness and closeness to the rest of the world, as instead of being depressed that nothing matters, I now feel that everyone is hopeless together, so everyone is equal. I have noticed that this feeling has seeped into my sober life, and I'm happy it has :)
"i can imagine a world without psychedelics" so what? given that psycedelics are in all sorts of things (somtimes poisonous ones like ergot, or in concentrations too low to be of practical use) you probably just imagine an impropable scenario. most neurotransmitters aren't that complex. plus they are related to common amino acids like tryptophan, it's not that impropable to have those substances come up..
"why are these experiencess possible?" why woudn't they? as long as they are no threat to survival they are not selected against. the more interesting question is how they work..
this creationist stick is pretty annoying..
+sofias. orange "How they work" isn't half as interesting as the experiences they produce. Describing the mechanism of action would never come close to matching the experience in and of its self. Try describing to someone what it feels like to be "in love." You think that's more interesting than the experience of being in love?
What is mean when I say "why are these experiences possible," is why does nature manufacture substances that have the ability to zap you out of your culturally programmed way of thinking and visually have the potential to cause such intense distortions and scenarios that words cannot encompass with any form of accuracy.
Of course it's not improbable that they "come up," what is improbable is the way they affect the user. Why would such a common neurotransmitter have such a profound impact?
Also, I'm not a "creationist." And the survival value has nothing to do with anything. Substances that are a threat to survival are not selected against. They are learnt to be avoided, such as with poisonous plants.
+SWIM hi, love what you do, try reading some krishnamurti, its another view on philosophy and spirituality, far from experiences, more focused on finding a new way of thinking and getting rid of social/intellectual conditioning. He'll make you see everything you know in a new way
+wal wal also despite his name, the guy is 100% secular
+sofias. orange A neurotransmitter may not be complex - hey it's just a molecule. however the way the brain reacts on neurotransmitters and how it results in subjective experiences is extremely complex and the greatest scientists only understand a small part of it.
SWIM seems like i somehow missed your answer, sorry for that.. :/
""How they work" isn't half as interesting as the experiences they produce. " only if you define it in a narrow way. the experiences (or at least the parts that are common between them) are part of "how they work".
"Why would such a common neurotransmitter have such a profound impact?" well, serotonin for example plays an important role in basic cognitive function. so i don't see why some related compound wouldn't have profound effects on the mind.
"Also, I'm not a "creationist.""
well, then you see that an intelligent intention isn't a very reasonable explanation for most biological phenomena.
"And the survival value has nothing to do with anything. Substances that are a threat to survival are not selected against. They are learnt to be avoided, such as with poisonous plants."
yeah, i didn't argue against evolution but against psychedelics being intentionally put there. it makes no sense putting it in organisms poisonous to humans.
Christofferr Andersen
"A neurotransmitter may not be complex - hey it's just a molecule."
you should check out proteins. ;)
also understanding or not has little to do with how likely it is..
"however the way the brain reacts on neurotransmitters and how it results in subjective experiences is extremely complex and the greatest scientists only understand a small part of it."
agreed. never said it wasn't.
I also got "shocks of knowledge" while in highschool. I was, and still am, a pretty quiet kid so I'm sure that played a part. Every time I'd get one my heart would feel as though it skipped a beat after I realized I had just thought up something incredible. Then I found Alan Watts through my brother and he reacted to Alan Watts's wisdom with shock and awe, himself, while I was just like, "Yea, of course." Still Alan Watts taught me a lot, but through that whole phase in my life I felt like I knew exactly what he was talking about. At the time I had never taken any psychedelics.
you should watch avatar the last airbender, the tv show. i know for a fact that you will love it. watch the entire thing, it's beautiful.
Pronoy Basu why’s it beautiful lol
Avi because its about those buddhism gainz, those meditation GAINZ bro
I LOVE this video. I cracked up about the ego of meditators -- yeah! On my one LSD trip 50 years ago I was told very very clearly that my life purpose was to get there naturally. I've been on an exploratory spiritual and healing path ever since, and not just because of that instruction, but because of sensitivities, I'm a non-drug-taker. But I totally get that Mother Nature has provided these doorways, and I'm excited that there is a second psychedelic revolution happening, and that you are talking, as I am to people I work with, about the absolute necessity to integrate the experiences and run with the ball.
Read your notes pls
This is probably too personal and takes too much time to explain each one
I have experienced Satori as well. Growing up surrounded by Buddhists definitely played a role. It was like you said, "everything happened, the good and the bad was leading up to that moment". I thought to myself, "this is it, I've finally gone crazy" and then saw what I would describe a circle filling up line by line, each line entailed a story of my previous life. I became a self-aware actor. It was definitely a life-changing event.
I am truly amazed at how on point eastern philosophy is on describing that state.
Opinions on Terrence Mckenna?
He's one of his inspirations
keep going with your path, its a beautiful journey youre taking on us on
Fucker WAS stealing future ideas. Fist time I heard Alan I had a memory of my 11 year old self explaining the concept of "living in the moment" and the illusion of past and future to my mother.
This is EXACTLY what happened to me, as though you're reading my thoughts. The RUclips history and the work moments, recent DMT and LSD, ALL OF IT... And your explanation of meditation... I'm here too. 🧘♂️🖤🌌 Been listening to Alan Watts for 2 years ongoing.
this just became one of my favorite videos from you
I think you doing meditation will benefit this channel. I found out that the eloquence of my thoughts and the way I verbalize them have improved with practicing this discipline. But then again, it takes time and determination. I enjoy what you're doing anyway, I am happy that Alan Watts is spread to such a wide crowd. Cheers to you :)
I once had a trip where I felt absolute enlightenment. Just like I had figured out everything there is to figure out. Like I had finished the game of life, played through it, seen it's start and it's end. The comparison feels stupid but... ever finished a computer game and kept playing anyway? That's what life felt after this experience.
What I found most curious about it... even while I was tripping I somehow knew that my brain wouldn't be able to handle that information in a sober state, that it would be too much. I knew that it wasn't "safe" for me to have this much knowledge so quickly. And I knew that my body knew that, and that it would prevent me from keeping that knowledge, for my own good. So i started to write down the most essential and usefull things I learned that night, while still tripping.
Oddly enough, now, month later... If I hadn't written it down, I'd be pretty sure it never happened.
I don't know what this exactly would be called, but if that is kencho or satori or whatever... then I get why people down want it once they got it. It's... life changing. Exhausting. Relieving. Depressing. Humbling. All of it.