Proving Grail Knights are A grade

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  • @Danic_an
    @Danic_an 2 года назад +986

    Bretonnia is an excellent example of how to make cavalry viable in this game, though after each micro intensive battle like this you need a week on Maldives to recover

    • @tobydorman3998
      @tobydorman3998 2 года назад +24

      Chucked at this

    • @etuanno
      @etuanno 2 года назад +29

      I had a similar strategy playing Clan Moulder where I used wolfrats the same way. Always 4-5 Units against one. I didn't have enough money or tech to recruit enough brood horrors, so I filled the army up with them.
      Very intense battles, but it worked as a temporary solution.

    • @Danic_an
      @Danic_an 2 года назад +45

      @@etuanno true, speed is so underrated characteristic, which is why again grail bois are so good: dudes are literally playing World of Tanks and Need for Speed at the same time

    • @patximartel
      @patximartel 2 года назад +3

      In every Total war works kind of like this.

    • @iamnotjcook
      @iamnotjcook 2 года назад +4

      @@patximartel In most other Total Wars, cavalry is pretty strong as a rule

  • @Zayl1016
    @Zayl1016 2 года назад +295

    A good portion of this fight became Saving Private Life Mage

    • @Grivehn
      @Grivehn 2 года назад +79

      Saving the Damsel in distress.

    • @denistannenberg
      @denistannenberg 2 года назад +21

      Saving field medic Antoinette

    • @BlueGoblin1
      @BlueGoblin1 2 года назад

      @@Grivehn Gives a whole new meaning to "for the lady"

  • @matheusbarbosatorful
    @matheusbarbosatorful 2 года назад +435

    A disaster battle where ikit is the enemy, thats refreshing

    • @shktech6026
      @shktech6026 2 года назад +4

      Yeah, kind of tired of Clan Skyre missile armies on the channel

    • @eugenekrabs869
      @eugenekrabs869 Год назад +1

      @@shktech6026 MOre waRp Stone yEs yEs

  • @emperorkarlfranzprinceofal1465
    @emperorkarlfranzprinceofal1465 2 года назад +297

    hearing Legend talk nice about a cavalry unit in WH2 feels so unreal

    • @supremepatriarchbalthasarg474
      @supremepatriarchbalthasarg474 2 года назад +11

      I still think reiksgaurd are better my liege.

    • @dennispashin4393
      @dennispashin4393 2 года назад +10

      That's not the first time either, he did call Greenskin Rocklobbers a "solid cavalry unit"...

    • @Ahrone1586
      @Ahrone1586 Год назад

      @@dennispashin4393 XD WTF

  • @Schmeethe88
    @Schmeethe88 2 года назад +502

    Man, this game would be a NIGHTMARE if the AI understood even the slightest morsel of strategy.

    • @scottycheesecake
      @scottycheesecake 2 года назад +85

      That's why AI gets the cheats, brother.

    • @Kuddochan
      @Kuddochan 2 года назад +46

      If it did it wouldn’t be getting cheats in the same way though. They’re there out of necessity for that very reason

    • @narxes
      @narxes 2 года назад +20

      Play MP if you want that experience

    • @coaiemandushman1079
      @coaiemandushman1079 2 года назад +6

      @@narxes but it's not the same

    • @benjaminsorensen9334
      @benjaminsorensen9334 2 года назад +18

      Offhand, I sit down to a computer game for relaxation, not nightmares. :)

  • @kevinslater4126
    @kevinslater4126 2 года назад +179

    "Caught in force march"
    Hahahahaha, would you like to hear about the Lady and the Lady's blessing?

    • @Sarum9nich
      @Sarum9nich 2 года назад +20

      *Hon-hon-hon-hon, would ye like to hear about ze Lady and ze Lady's blessing?

    • @christophebedouret9813
      @christophebedouret9813 2 года назад +2

      Ze Laydee...

    • @mrsullied
      @mrsullied 2 года назад +1

      Sauvage!

  • @Kubloo
    @Kubloo 2 года назад +53

    At 6:09 I can totally picture some fed-up Jezzail chief celebrating their sniping of Ikit Klaw in that exact tone!
    “NICE!”

  • @friedipar
    @friedipar 2 года назад +271

    Ikit´s Death was just about the most skaven thing i´ve seen in a while

    • @gustafmannerheim9720
      @gustafmannerheim9720 2 года назад +16

      Ikit: shoot for me-me, ignore friendly fire, yes-yes

    • @JB-xl2jc
      @JB-xl2jc 2 года назад +19

      5:50 and just a bit after is timestamp for those curious

    • @itsteebz484
      @itsteebz484 2 года назад +37

      The Skaven artillery commander saw his chance and took it.

    • @Grivehn
      @Grivehn 2 года назад +7

      They had enough of being used for target practice and nuke testing.

    • @jordinagel1184
      @jordinagel1184 2 года назад +4

      Skaven commander after his warp lightning cannons “accidentally” atomized Ikit Claw (he got better): “Oh no! Anyways…”

  • @ArvidHagelberg
    @ArvidHagelberg 2 года назад +30

    0:43 "... because it's gonna be a bloody nightmare." Yeah Legend, a KNIGHT-mare! Ha!

  • @sultana1maadeed450
    @sultana1maadeed450 2 года назад +106

    Common Plagueclaw Catapult Skaven: *remembers all the times Ikit-Claw threw them in front of his massive guns and nukes with 0 regard*
    Also Plagueclaw catapult skaven *accidently* hitting Ikit-claw: “hehehe”

    • @MonMalthias
      @MonMalthias 2 года назад +4

      Just some "friendly" fire as payback!

    • @florians9949
      @florians9949 2 года назад +1

      @@MonMalthias Skaven: ‘Friendly’ what a funy word, never cared what it meant.

  • @crystallxix1493
    @crystallxix1493 2 года назад +62

    Making Ze Lady proud

  • @dmitriyk.2890
    @dmitriyk.2890 2 года назад +40

    It's funny how Legend always jokes about being "small" and still put himself as Henry Le Massif on a thumbnail.

  • @13g0man
    @13g0man 2 года назад +13

    When the Grail Knights bunched up all i could think about was how good a Doomrocket would have been.

  • @danfish300
    @danfish300 2 года назад +30

    Geez Legend must go through a Mouse a week with his clicking.....

  • @kobeathris4552
    @kobeathris4552 2 года назад +47

    It's too bad there isn't a mechanic to like drive them off the ledge into the ravine

    • @M.L.official
      @M.L.official 2 года назад +3

      That would be awesome.

    • @rellek4053
      @rellek4053 2 года назад

      You can… I think. It’s just not an effective strategy at all

    • @yoda0017
      @yoda0017 2 года назад +12

      I have a memory of watching a duel once, zoomed way in. They were fighting close to a cliff. My duelist killed the enemy, and the body flew backwards perfectly and ragdolled off the cliff.
      Definitely one of the best moments I've had playing this game.

    • @Enkabard
      @Enkabard 2 года назад

      @@yoda0017 wtf, i have nearly 500 hours in this game and never saw nothing like this even once

    • @yoda0017
      @yoda0017 2 года назад

      @@Enkabard It's possible I'm confusing it with something else lol.

  • @fedeprate
    @fedeprate 2 года назад +4

    From nightmare to knightmare: a micromanagement tale

  • @srdjan455
    @srdjan455 2 года назад +6

    Surprised the AI never used menace below against the army when it was just standing still

  • @rhysiieboii
    @rhysiieboii 2 года назад +16

    Love seeing you represent the underrated Brets

  • @VossMarionette
    @VossMarionette 2 года назад +1

    I love how even when playing and bretonia, the skaven in you comes out to play ever so slightly

  • @user-rx2xz7km1z
    @user-rx2xz7km1z 2 года назад

    that crossing charge was something straight from "Last Samurai" movie XDD

  • @TesseraCraft
    @TesseraCraft 2 года назад +3

    I don't normally watch the whole video but this one had me on the edge of my seat

  • @isawaryosuke
    @isawaryosuke Год назад

    Lots of Heart stopping moments, I was on the edge of my seat. lol

  • @roughrecks3314
    @roughrecks3314 2 года назад

    I Enjoyed watching this so much man! currently doin ikit claw on vortex and having a blast. felt like watching a reverse stomp lawl

  • @hckytwn3192
    @hckytwn3192 2 года назад +1

    0:45 - Haha... I see what you did there 😆

  • @Anand70707
    @Anand70707 2 года назад +1

    I knew Legend was a great cavalry commander, but it's been some time since I've seen a masterclass like this.

  • @samg7646
    @samg7646 2 года назад

    take a drink every-time legend clicks twice in one second

  • @huynhvonhatan
    @huynhvonhatan 2 года назад +3

    Somehow this disaster battle turns into a saving your doom stack battle 🤣

  • @pascaldifolco4611
    @pascaldifolco4611 2 года назад +4

    I'm deeply impressed by your mousemanship Legend ! That's what happen when you've got much cheese ? 😁

  • @xXGamerGirl47Xx
    @xXGamerGirl47Xx 2 года назад +46

    19 grail reliquaes could have done better I reckon

    • @KazeKoichi
      @KazeKoichi 2 года назад +2

      Give this dude an award. Darwin Award will do.

    • @rellek4053
      @rellek4053 2 года назад +5

      That is the most cancerous name I’ve ever seen

    • @mrsullied
      @mrsullied 2 года назад +1

      @@rellek4053 what about "Cancer Boy"? That's gotta rank higher

  • @j.s.t.6515
    @j.s.t.6515 2 года назад

    This would actually make for a really cool cinematic replay! Maybe you could sent it to one of those guys that are specialized on doing those. Please!

  • @geonik7
    @geonik7 2 года назад

    "It's going to be fucking *knightmare*". I'll show my self out...

  • @booradley6832
    @booradley6832 2 года назад

    Christ man, that's some serious micro.
    Grats.

  • @TheJollyLlama875
    @TheJollyLlama875 2 года назад

    Damn this one was intense, well done

  • @markwhitmore6942
    @markwhitmore6942 2 года назад

    Those crazy ass Griffen night of the high elves.

  • @a_latyshev
    @a_latyshev 2 года назад +1

    Oh I had the similar situation in my Brettonia campaign, but in the badlands, that's so tough to pull through....

  • @TheMCcreepermen
    @TheMCcreepermen 2 года назад

    0:46 its gonna be a bloody knight mare :)

  • @faszsa60
    @faszsa60 2 года назад +6

    That crossing looks like an exodus

  • @TheRotbringer
    @TheRotbringer 2 года назад +2

    I may actually try a bretonnia campaign. I’ve always wanted to run a cavalry army that was actually viable.

  • @Elandrianthetrue
    @Elandrianthetrue 2 года назад +54

    "...and of course the fact that the AI is fucking stupid." pretty much mostly this. But grail knights are great at exploiting AI stupidity.

    • @cactuscoe9096
      @cactuscoe9096 2 года назад +4

      The beauty of cavalry:
      The AI is not acting dumb? Run away until they are!

    • @M.L.official
      @M.L.official 2 года назад

      Any missile army is great at exploiting AI stupidity.

  • @andre_clearsky
    @andre_clearsky 2 года назад

    Being always fresh specially in this kind of situation helps a lot.

  • @nathancampanini5309
    @nathancampanini5309 2 года назад

    Does Ikit damage units that are around him when he died? 6:17

  • @kwantommy7468
    @kwantommy7468 Год назад

    Hope Legend can make one more video for the updated grail knight !

  • @SlayerMiniatures
    @SlayerMiniatures 2 года назад +1

    Thumbnail should have said - 'What a Knight-mare' 🤣

  • @probablydio3961
    @probablydio3961 2 года назад

    Glad this dude didn't pull a me and actually took the grail vow

  • @R3GARnator
    @R3GARnator 2 года назад

    Now legend knows how those he crushes as Ikit feel

  • @pauledwards2052
    @pauledwards2052 2 года назад +1

    How did you get them to mill about in the center? Is it specific AI to this map? They ALWAYS go straight for my forces if I have them tucked in a corner, even with a hero split off, although I have never done that on this map.

    • @sevenayashinedown1283
      @sevenayashinedown1283 2 года назад +1

      I believe it has to do with line of sight and the way the AI treats the choke point. If you push someone across the choke point before the ai gets into position it tends to freak out and worry about the one you sent.

  • @Hunwutzzzz
    @Hunwutzzzz 2 года назад +6

    We are waiting for the next roster reviews!

  • @SilverforceX
    @SilverforceX 2 года назад +2

    Love Grail Knight, great cav but perfect vigor!

  • @WelNep
    @WelNep 2 года назад +2

    Wonder how many times Legend clicked the right mouse button this fight...

  • @Morbacounet
    @Morbacounet 2 года назад +1

    This feels like an add for Grail Knights ...

  • @tulkdog
    @tulkdog 2 года назад +21

    Grail Guardians is the only other unit that could have done that almost as well, but yeah, that’s still Bretonia.

    • @maximum9977
      @maximum9977 2 года назад +2

      Blood knights can do that and be full hp after

    • @spiffyracc
      @spiffyracc 2 года назад +2

      Against this army I think Grail Guardians do better.

    • @WillowGreenheart
      @WillowGreenheart 2 года назад +17

      @@maximum9977 When force marching? No way.

    • @DrowsyBean
      @DrowsyBean 2 года назад +7

      @@maximum9977 blood knights aren't that great

    • @futonrevolution7671
      @futonrevolution7671 2 года назад

      @@maximum9977 You might be thinking of how Blood Knights are in SFO.

  • @electricpigeon28
    @electricpigeon28 2 года назад

    Into the chokepoint of death rode the 600

  • @PedroRodrigues-je6xp
    @PedroRodrigues-je6xp 2 года назад

    6:00 IKIT, GET OUT OF THE WAY-PATH!!

  • @legion999
    @legion999 2 года назад

    Wow that was so exciting!

  • @suprememagistar
    @suprememagistar 2 года назад

    you're not cheesing anything, you're being a great tactician.

  • @r.t.972
    @r.t.972 2 года назад +7

    Great showing of how superior mobility can wreck big gun armies. The moment their back line opened up, it was over.
    LUV ME FARM
    LUV ME KING
    LUV ME LADY
    LUV ME GUARDIANS
    'ATE RATS
    'ATE SPIKY ELVES
    'ATE ORCS
    SIMPLE AS

  • @SegaMegaLoh
    @SegaMegaLoh 2 года назад +1

    That one sorceress did pretty decent job actually:) Not so useless without mount

  • @vipershark1
    @vipershark1 2 года назад

    Dragon princes have martial prowess, Grail Knights have living saints

  • @marcelbruin4582
    @marcelbruin4582 2 года назад

    Its going to be a KNIGHTmare, ha!! I see wat you dit there!!

  • @SirPeachyNietzsche
    @SirPeachyNietzsche 2 года назад

    Was this with the new beta cavalry changes?

  • @tankianheng5179
    @tankianheng5179 2 года назад

    Could VC with blood knights have won with WOD or pendulum thinning the rats out, and BK finishing the ranged off?

  • @wolfiasty1765
    @wolfiasty1765 2 года назад +2

    We miss your streams very much!

  • @mrdannyel4591
    @mrdannyel4591 2 года назад +1

    This battle was a (k)night....mare :)

  • @jorgecalvomartin9211
    @jorgecalvomartin9211 2 года назад

    he truly is a legend

  • @faceoctopus4571
    @faceoctopus4571 2 года назад +1

    I'm surprised that the knights are fresh because IIRC perfect vigor states you don't lose vigor or gain fatigue. I took that to mean that whatever fatigue the unit starts with is what they keep for the rest of the battle.

  • @dan-im3rg
    @dan-im3rg 2 года назад +2

    7:39 healing the ground by misclicking the character card... i feel that pain :(

    • @Myth0l0gic
      @Myth0l0gic 2 года назад +1

      Lol I physically cringed when I saw that, too.

  • @devinrogerson3035
    @devinrogerson3035 2 года назад

    Thank the Great Horned Rat Ikit got confederated. Imagine he had all his workshop upgrades.

  • @ZergleJerk
    @ZergleJerk 2 года назад

    Forcing Skaven to be too Skaven by killing their troops is 200iq TWWH.

  • @SgsskInSolitude
    @SgsskInSolitude Год назад

    In WH3 version 3.1, Grail Knight is TRUE tier A unit now.

  • @alexvredenburg2900
    @alexvredenburg2900 2 года назад

    Why don’t you use the lance ability? It says it gives speed and acceleration would that not be better?

    • @LegendofTotalWar
      @LegendofTotalWar  2 года назад +1

      no they get stuck more in lance formation. lance formation sucks on very hard battle difficulty. you only use it when you're 100% committing to the charge which i pretty much never do.

  • @btCharlie_
    @btCharlie_ 2 года назад

    Yeah, it indeed sets them abutt the rest. 😂

  • @footbroke
    @footbroke 2 года назад

    I fucking love Bretonnian cav. They're so good.

  • @iopohable
    @iopohable 2 года назад

    that was a fun one

  • @charger4294
    @charger4294 2 года назад

    Legend why you dont use special formation skill for knights?

    • @LegendofTotalWar
      @LegendofTotalWar  2 года назад

      extra penetration means they get stuck more. I needed mobility more than charge bonus

  • @reepar7465
    @reepar7465 2 года назад

    Why don’t use formation atack?

    • @futonrevolution7671
      @futonrevolution7671 2 года назад +1

      Lance formations end up deep inside infantry units without the friendly models covering their flanks that they get from standard formations. Individual horses don't have the mass to free themselves, if they're in the dead center of an enemy unit.

  • @Oliwear999
    @Oliwear999 2 года назад

    RIDE TO RUIN AND THE WORLD'S ENDING! I mean.. uhh... FOR ZE LADY

  • @superork26
    @superork26 2 года назад

    bretonia rides!

  • @nwiley619
    @nwiley619 2 года назад

    I bet legend felt like erwin smith in the endnhaha

  • @ryanschmidt3319
    @ryanschmidt3319 2 года назад

    I think this might have been winnable for a pegasus knight spam, purely because they would not be anywhere near as hampered by the map or the size of the skaven armies. However I don't have confidence that they (the pegasus knights) would have walked out of the battle with the same strength remaining that the Grail Knights managed.

  • @HandsomeSquidwrd
    @HandsomeSquidwrd 2 года назад

    how does he have a hero with a hippogryph mount? He using a mod?

    • @ScholarAtArms
      @ScholarAtArms 2 года назад +3

      Henri le Massif gets a hippogriff.

  • @Dradolan
    @Dradolan 2 года назад

    Hell yeah Legend

  • @brunopaes8944
    @brunopaes8944 2 года назад +1

    Legend, in my experience you want to be between the enemy army and the artillery to inflict the friendly fire better, not on top of the infantry.

  • @sokar_rostau
    @sokar_rostau 2 года назад

    Red pants and mayonnaise!

  • @konstantinriumin2657
    @konstantinriumin2657 2 года назад

    Charge of the Light Brigade, Crimean War, colorized

  • @alexstrazathelife-binder7906
    @alexstrazathelife-binder7906 2 месяца назад

    Ikit Claw got Ikit Clawed

  • @bbrruuccee6666699999
    @bbrruuccee6666699999 2 года назад

    For Ze Warpstone!

  • @SuperCosmicChaos
    @SuperCosmicChaos 2 года назад

    Legendary!

  • @senshibat8920
    @senshibat8920 2 года назад

    need u a vortex spell caster or the wind blast for choke points..

  • @Muck006
    @Muck006 2 года назад

    Camera control is the reason why I am not capable of doing stuff like this ... because you need it to have the awareness (and thus control) of all your troops.

  • @jomix7
    @jomix7 2 года назад

    Ikit killed with the very guns he invented, ironic

  • @jellydamgood
    @jellydamgood 2 года назад

    Why is Ikit fighting Ikit?

  • @thaiwer
    @thaiwer 2 года назад

    total war rome 1 now,legendary

  • @rellek4053
    @rellek4053 2 года назад

    Now just imagine those grail knights were a more useful unit like sisters of Avelorn. This wouldn’t even be a disaster battle then.

    • @TheRealJG0
      @TheRealJG0 Год назад

      Nah he shoulda just made a paladin damsel doomstack or hypogryph doomstack

  • @Shandalt1
    @Shandalt1 2 года назад

    I played on hard and built a grail guardian and Knight army. You could just charge it at w/e and it would destroy everything

  • @DRERodman
    @DRERodman 2 года назад

    Living Saint

  • @riseaz5379
    @riseaz5379 2 года назад +2

    Yessir Legend

  • @Olav_Hansen
    @Olav_Hansen 2 года назад +3

    Against infantry it doesn't matter if they have a bonus vs large. Their charge bonus gives them the 90% hit cap and an ap weapon strength of over 100. Short of beefy elite infantry like black orcs and braced anti large units they'll easily 1 hit any model.
    But the anti large is especially useful for extra damage against single entities and more hitting chance/ damage output in sustained combat vs large.
    Pretty much all sustained combat should be with large, since only large opponents are fast enough to catch up. So anti large simply is better.

    • @Xonarag
      @Xonarag 2 года назад

      They won't hit the hit cap against units with a lot of melee defence though right?

    • @thehistorians5231
      @thehistorians5231 2 года назад +3

      @@Xonarag they will cause 1- the only way you Won't hit is if its something like ironbreakers and 2- you do know MD gets reduced when being attacked in the sides and rear right? and optimal cav usage rarely involves a full on frontal charge
      and yeah what that guy said above is why the myth that elite cav is bad against high armour needs to stop...grail knights may not have the AP tag but they have a high enough AP ratio to where even if you do have heavy armour they are still hitting you for over 70 WS

    • @Olav_Hansen
      @Olav_Hansen 2 года назад

      @@Xonarag 100+ charge bonus gives them an ecfective 180 attack. 130 should be enough against even ironbreakers (ai build about 80md)
      and as far as I know those are the best defenders.

  • @Pwnarbullen
    @Pwnarbullen 2 года назад

    They don't call them french space marines for nothing!

  • @jorgecalvomartin9211
    @jorgecalvomartin9211 2 года назад

    Repanse's army upkeep is painful to watch

  • @gregoryshinn9805
    @gregoryshinn9805 2 года назад

    Thanks for the video