Proving Grail Knights are A grade
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2021
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Bretonnia is an excellent example of how to make cavalry viable in this game, though after each micro intensive battle like this you need a week on Maldives to recover
Chucked at this
I had a similar strategy playing Clan Moulder where I used wolfrats the same way. Always 4-5 Units against one. I didn't have enough money or tech to recruit enough brood horrors, so I filled the army up with them.
Very intense battles, but it worked as a temporary solution.
@@etuanno true, speed is so underrated characteristic, which is why again grail bois are so good: dudes are literally playing World of Tanks and Need for Speed at the same time
In every Total war works kind of like this.
@@patximartel In most other Total Wars, cavalry is pretty strong as a rule
A good portion of this fight became Saving Private Life Mage
Saving the Damsel in distress.
Saving field medic Antoinette
@@Grivehn Gives a whole new meaning to "for the lady"
A disaster battle where ikit is the enemy, thats refreshing
Yeah, kind of tired of Clan Skyre missile armies on the channel
@@shktech6026 MOre waRp Stone yEs yEs
hearing Legend talk nice about a cavalry unit in WH2 feels so unreal
I still think reiksgaurd are better my liege.
That's not the first time either, he did call Greenskin Rocklobbers a "solid cavalry unit"...
@@dennispashin4393 XD WTF
Man, this game would be a NIGHTMARE if the AI understood even the slightest morsel of strategy.
That's why AI gets the cheats, brother.
If it did it wouldn’t be getting cheats in the same way though. They’re there out of necessity for that very reason
Play MP if you want that experience
@@narxes but it's not the same
Offhand, I sit down to a computer game for relaxation, not nightmares. :)
"Caught in force march"
Hahahahaha, would you like to hear about the Lady and the Lady's blessing?
*Hon-hon-hon-hon, would ye like to hear about ze Lady and ze Lady's blessing?
Ze Laydee...
Sauvage!
At 6:09 I can totally picture some fed-up Jezzail chief celebrating their sniping of Ikit Klaw in that exact tone!
“NICE!”
Ikit´s Death was just about the most skaven thing i´ve seen in a while
Ikit: shoot for me-me, ignore friendly fire, yes-yes
5:50 and just a bit after is timestamp for those curious
The Skaven artillery commander saw his chance and took it.
They had enough of being used for target practice and nuke testing.
Skaven commander after his warp lightning cannons “accidentally” atomized Ikit Claw (he got better): “Oh no! Anyways…”
0:43 "... because it's gonna be a bloody nightmare." Yeah Legend, a KNIGHT-mare! Ha!
Common Plagueclaw Catapult Skaven: *remembers all the times Ikit-Claw threw them in front of his massive guns and nukes with 0 regard*
Also Plagueclaw catapult skaven *accidently* hitting Ikit-claw: “hehehe”
Just some "friendly" fire as payback!
@@MonMalthias Skaven: ‘Friendly’ what a funy word, never cared what it meant.
Making Ze Lady proud
It's funny how Legend always jokes about being "small" and still put himself as Henry Le Massif on a thumbnail.
When the Grail Knights bunched up all i could think about was how good a Doomrocket would have been.
Geez Legend must go through a Mouse a week with his clicking.....
It's too bad there isn't a mechanic to like drive them off the ledge into the ravine
That would be awesome.
You can… I think. It’s just not an effective strategy at all
I have a memory of watching a duel once, zoomed way in. They were fighting close to a cliff. My duelist killed the enemy, and the body flew backwards perfectly and ragdolled off the cliff.
Definitely one of the best moments I've had playing this game.
@@yoda0017 wtf, i have nearly 500 hours in this game and never saw nothing like this even once
@@Enkabard It's possible I'm confusing it with something else lol.
From nightmare to knightmare: a micromanagement tale
Surprised the AI never used menace below against the army when it was just standing still
Love seeing you represent the underrated Brets
I love how even when playing and bretonia, the skaven in you comes out to play ever so slightly
that crossing charge was something straight from "Last Samurai" movie XDD
I don't normally watch the whole video but this one had me on the edge of my seat
Lots of Heart stopping moments, I was on the edge of my seat. lol
I Enjoyed watching this so much man! currently doin ikit claw on vortex and having a blast. felt like watching a reverse stomp lawl
0:45 - Haha... I see what you did there 😆
I knew Legend was a great cavalry commander, but it's been some time since I've seen a masterclass like this.
take a drink every-time legend clicks twice in one second
Somehow this disaster battle turns into a saving your doom stack battle 🤣
I'm deeply impressed by your mousemanship Legend ! That's what happen when you've got much cheese ? 😁
19 grail reliquaes could have done better I reckon
Give this dude an award. Darwin Award will do.
That is the most cancerous name I’ve ever seen
@@rellek4053 what about "Cancer Boy"? That's gotta rank higher
This would actually make for a really cool cinematic replay! Maybe you could sent it to one of those guys that are specialized on doing those. Please!
"It's going to be fucking *knightmare*". I'll show my self out...
Christ man, that's some serious micro.
Grats.
Damn this one was intense, well done
Those crazy ass Griffen night of the high elves.
Oh I had the similar situation in my Brettonia campaign, but in the badlands, that's so tough to pull through....
0:46 its gonna be a bloody knight mare :)
That crossing looks like an exodus
I may actually try a bretonnia campaign. I’ve always wanted to run a cavalry army that was actually viable.
"...and of course the fact that the AI is fucking stupid." pretty much mostly this. But grail knights are great at exploiting AI stupidity.
The beauty of cavalry:
The AI is not acting dumb? Run away until they are!
Any missile army is great at exploiting AI stupidity.
Being always fresh specially in this kind of situation helps a lot.
Does Ikit damage units that are around him when he died? 6:17
Hope Legend can make one more video for the updated grail knight !
Thumbnail should have said - 'What a Knight-mare' 🤣
Glad this dude didn't pull a me and actually took the grail vow
Now legend knows how those he crushes as Ikit feel
How did you get them to mill about in the center? Is it specific AI to this map? They ALWAYS go straight for my forces if I have them tucked in a corner, even with a hero split off, although I have never done that on this map.
I believe it has to do with line of sight and the way the AI treats the choke point. If you push someone across the choke point before the ai gets into position it tends to freak out and worry about the one you sent.
We are waiting for the next roster reviews!
Love Grail Knight, great cav but perfect vigor!
Wonder how many times Legend clicked the right mouse button this fight...
This feels like an add for Grail Knights ...
Grail Guardians is the only other unit that could have done that almost as well, but yeah, that’s still Bretonia.
Blood knights can do that and be full hp after
Against this army I think Grail Guardians do better.
@@maximum9977 When force marching? No way.
@@maximum9977 blood knights aren't that great
@@maximum9977 You might be thinking of how Blood Knights are in SFO.
Into the chokepoint of death rode the 600
6:00 IKIT, GET OUT OF THE WAY-PATH!!
Wow that was so exciting!
you're not cheesing anything, you're being a great tactician.
AI is cheese-fodder.
Great showing of how superior mobility can wreck big gun armies. The moment their back line opened up, it was over.
LUV ME FARM
LUV ME KING
LUV ME LADY
LUV ME GUARDIANS
'ATE RATS
'ATE SPIKY ELVES
'ATE ORCS
SIMPLE AS
That one sorceress did pretty decent job actually:) Not so useless without mount
Dragon princes have martial prowess, Grail Knights have living saints
Its going to be a KNIGHTmare, ha!! I see wat you dit there!!
Was this with the new beta cavalry changes?
Could VC with blood knights have won with WOD or pendulum thinning the rats out, and BK finishing the ranged off?
We miss your streams very much!
Do you know when he’ll start streaming again?
This battle was a (k)night....mare :)
he truly is a legend
I'm surprised that the knights are fresh because IIRC perfect vigor states you don't lose vigor or gain fatigue. I took that to mean that whatever fatigue the unit starts with is what they keep for the rest of the battle.
7:39 healing the ground by misclicking the character card... i feel that pain :(
Lol I physically cringed when I saw that, too.
Thank the Great Horned Rat Ikit got confederated. Imagine he had all his workshop upgrades.
Forcing Skaven to be too Skaven by killing their troops is 200iq TWWH.
In WH3 version 3.1, Grail Knight is TRUE tier A unit now.
Why don’t you use the lance ability? It says it gives speed and acceleration would that not be better?
no they get stuck more in lance formation. lance formation sucks on very hard battle difficulty. you only use it when you're 100% committing to the charge which i pretty much never do.
Yeah, it indeed sets them abutt the rest. 😂
I fucking love Bretonnian cav. They're so good.
that was a fun one
Legend why you dont use special formation skill for knights?
extra penetration means they get stuck more. I needed mobility more than charge bonus
Why don’t use formation atack?
Lance formations end up deep inside infantry units without the friendly models covering their flanks that they get from standard formations. Individual horses don't have the mass to free themselves, if they're in the dead center of an enemy unit.
RIDE TO RUIN AND THE WORLD'S ENDING! I mean.. uhh... FOR ZE LADY
bretonia rides!
I bet legend felt like erwin smith in the endnhaha
I think this might have been winnable for a pegasus knight spam, purely because they would not be anywhere near as hampered by the map or the size of the skaven armies. However I don't have confidence that they (the pegasus knights) would have walked out of the battle with the same strength remaining that the Grail Knights managed.
how does he have a hero with a hippogryph mount? He using a mod?
Henri le Massif gets a hippogriff.
Hell yeah Legend
Legend, in my experience you want to be between the enemy army and the artillery to inflict the friendly fire better, not on top of the infantry.
Red pants and mayonnaise!
Charge of the Light Brigade, Crimean War, colorized
Ikit Claw got Ikit Clawed
For Ze Warpstone!
Legendary!
need u a vortex spell caster or the wind blast for choke points..
Camera control is the reason why I am not capable of doing stuff like this ... because you need it to have the awareness (and thus control) of all your troops.
Ikit killed with the very guns he invented, ironic
Why is Ikit fighting Ikit?
total war rome 1 now,legendary
Now just imagine those grail knights were a more useful unit like sisters of Avelorn. This wouldn’t even be a disaster battle then.
Nah he shoulda just made a paladin damsel doomstack or hypogryph doomstack
I played on hard and built a grail guardian and Knight army. You could just charge it at w/e and it would destroy everything
Living Saint
Yessir Legend
Against infantry it doesn't matter if they have a bonus vs large. Their charge bonus gives them the 90% hit cap and an ap weapon strength of over 100. Short of beefy elite infantry like black orcs and braced anti large units they'll easily 1 hit any model.
But the anti large is especially useful for extra damage against single entities and more hitting chance/ damage output in sustained combat vs large.
Pretty much all sustained combat should be with large, since only large opponents are fast enough to catch up. So anti large simply is better.
They won't hit the hit cap against units with a lot of melee defence though right?
@@Xonarag they will cause 1- the only way you Won't hit is if its something like ironbreakers and 2- you do know MD gets reduced when being attacked in the sides and rear right? and optimal cav usage rarely involves a full on frontal charge
and yeah what that guy said above is why the myth that elite cav is bad against high armour needs to stop...grail knights may not have the AP tag but they have a high enough AP ratio to where even if you do have heavy armour they are still hitting you for over 70 WS
@@Xonarag 100+ charge bonus gives them an ecfective 180 attack. 130 should be enough against even ironbreakers (ai build about 80md)
and as far as I know those are the best defenders.
They don't call them french space marines for nothing!
Repanse's army upkeep is painful to watch
Thanks for the video