Very good! However, I don’t recommend it for beginners. If you want an air gapped device and you’re a beginner, I’d probably go with Ellipal. If you’re willing to move away from air gap, I’d go with Tangem
Used to be. It came with their own app which was perfect. Their latest product however doesn't anymore so you have to connect a digital wallet which is annoying because for example the digital wallet needs to support your asset and if it doesn't you can't see whats going on. I am looking for the next best thing now because of this.
I assume it depends on the SE used. But the code related to the MicroChipTech SE used in Keystone is available for review on GitHub: Here's one example: github.com/KeystoneHQ/keystone3-firmware/blob/release/v1.2.6/src/driver/drv_atecc608b.c P.S. The code could simply be related to interfacing or utilizing the chip in the K3P. The ATECC608B chip itself might have its own set of specifications or proprietary technology that isn't open source. However examining the code that interacts with the chip can provide valuable information about how the device handles sensitive data, implements encryption, and manages communication, which are crucial factors in determining its safety and reliability.
Why do you need EAL7? What does that even mean? Do you know what part of the device is rated EAL7? Because the secure element chip in Ngrave, which stores the private key, is EAL5. So the secure element used in a wallet like Tangem actually has a higher EAL certification (EAL6+) than the one used in Ngrave. The EAL7 certification in NGRAVE is achieved by the secure operating system, not the hardware. Does this mean NGRAVE is more secure? IDK. Personally, I think it’s more of a marketing strategy than anything. A higher EAL rating suggests a higher level of security assurance, but it's not the sole determinant of overall security.
@@johnwalsh4857 aw man… I’m trying to find a wallet besides tangem that’s airgapped, and doesn’t require firmware updates. Am I searching for the impossible lol?
I bought Keystone 3 Pro, but considering that what matters most to me is ISO20022 coins, and Kesytone Pro does not support most of them, i.e.: XLM, HBAR, CSPR, IOTA, ALGO, LCX. For me it's more like just a stone, than Keystone - piece of brick.
It is a pain to have to use multiple wallets to manage coins. But again, every decision made was aimed at security. Unfortunately sacrificing some user friendliness.
@@cyberscrilla I don’t really see how using 3rd party apps help improve security. Isn’t possible that it can sacrifice some privacy by allowing hackers to see what you own even if they can’t steal your crypto?
Because we aren’t relying on a single centralized app to manage our crypto. And no. Hackers can see everything you have by viewing the blockchain. Doesn’t matter which wallet you use.
@@cyberscrillaHave you tested the Ngrave? I can't find a review of it on your channel, but plenty on other channels. I'd really like to know your thoughts on it
In fhis new age global rtade one needs to be very weary products country of origin and ceo nationality. Certain governments have control over companies. Arculus is american company that is publicly traded and made in America
The more I dig into it and more I understand sophistication of crypto wallet "bank" robbers the more I understand why Blackrock made the move to Botcoin ETF and why most people will never truly own crupto direct. Majority will simply only think they have crypto but will not. Then huge number of bitcoin is and will be lost in dust or never ever uncooked wallets no one has access to. Bitcoin may and will still have its glory but eventually will disappear to some so far unknown future.
Do you think air gapped hardware wallet are worth the sacrifice in user-friendliness?
Let me know!
- Alex
I find the kp3 super easy and strait forward.
I love the K3P too!
@cyberscrilla it definitely makes it a bit harder to get a spawn through in time with the 2 step qr 🐸🟪
Is Keystone a good choice？
Very good! However, I don’t recommend it for beginners. If you want an air gapped device and you’re a beginner, I’d probably go with Ellipal.
If you’re willing to move away from air gap, I’d go with Tangem
I would give a thumb. They are sincerely making products.
works flawlessly with mm
Used to be. It came with their own app which was perfect. Their latest product however doesn't anymore so you have to connect a digital wallet which is annoying because for example the digital wallet needs to support your asset and if it doesn't you can't see whats going on. I am looking for the next best thing now because of this.
@tunsiehelden Check out the Ledger Flex
How does the Keystone 3 Pro manage to be 100% open source 5:40 while having THREE secure element chips, which are notoriously closed source?
I assume it depends on the SE used.
But the code related to the MicroChipTech SE used in Keystone is available for review on GitHub:
Here's one example: github.com/KeystoneHQ/keystone3-firmware/blob/release/v1.2.6/src/driver/drv_atecc608b.c
P.S. The code could simply be related to interfacing or utilizing the chip in the K3P. The ATECC608B chip itself might have its own set of specifications or proprietary technology that isn't open source.
However examining the code that interacts with the chip can provide valuable information about how the device handles sensitive data, implements encryption, and manages communication, which are crucial factors in determining its safety and reliability.
only the eal chips are closed source..se chips from other manufacturers are open sourced
Thanks for the info! 😃👍🏼👊🏼
I decided to go with a Ellipal Titan2.0 vs Keystone 3 pro because it has a native app. I guess you can say I’m somewhat new to crypto.
I think that’s a good choice then. It will be easier to manage all your coins on the native app vs using multiple wallet with Keystone.
I had a Titan for a few years now and love it. Also can hold up to 10 accounts.
How did you change the battery?@@DannyBrooks1
ellipal
Thanks for this detailed info . What about the NGrave Zero wallet? Do you know it?
Thanks for watching
And I do know of Ngrave. Overpriced and overrated in my opinion.
EAL7 certified level of security.
Why do you need EAL7? What does that even mean? Do you know what part of the device is rated EAL7?
Because the secure element chip in Ngrave, which stores the private key, is EAL5.
So the secure element used in a wallet like Tangem actually has a higher EAL certification (EAL6+) than the one used in Ngrave.
The EAL7 certification in NGRAVE is achieved by the secure operating system, not the hardware.
Does this mean NGRAVE is more secure?
IDK. Personally, I think it’s more of a marketing strategy than anything.
A higher EAL rating suggests a higher level of security assurance, but it's not the sole determinant of overall security.
Thanks for the detailed explanation.
Coldcard MK4 and Q1 are way up there.
well I use a safepal and its excellent, and its very secure.
Does safepal hold hbar and qnt ??
@@KeatzCase Yes, HBAR(Cronos), QNT (ETH, INJ , Cronos)
Does safepal require firmware updates?
@@Coolguyallthetime2k yes from time to time, also ledger requires same.
@@johnwalsh4857 aw man… I’m trying to find a wallet besides tangem that’s airgapped, and doesn’t require firmware updates. Am I searching for the impossible lol?
I bought Keystone 3 Pro, but considering that what matters most to me is ISO20022 coins, and Kesytone Pro does not support most of them, i.e.: XLM, HBAR, CSPR, IOTA, ALGO, LCX. For me it's more like just a stone, than Keystone - piece of brick.
It’s common sense to ensure the wallet you buy supports the tokens you have before buying
@@cyberscrilla It is gold standard to have these coins supported :)
@@cyberscrilla It's gold standard to support such important assets like ISO20022 compliant coins.
Apparently not
@@cyberscrilla It should be. Good wallets has support for the most of ISO20022 coins.
I wish the K3Pro still had the option to use the native app.
They also need more added non Eth blockchain coin support .
It is a pain to have to use multiple wallets to manage coins.
But again, every decision made was aimed at security. Unfortunately sacrificing some user friendliness.
@@cyberscrilla
I don’t really see how using 3rd party apps help improve security.
Isn’t possible that it can sacrifice some privacy by allowing hackers to see what you own even if they can’t steal your crypto?
Because we aren’t relying on a single centralized app to manage our crypto.
And no. Hackers can see everything you have by viewing the blockchain. Doesn’t matter which wallet you use.
The Ngrave wallet is the best air gapped wallet on the market.
Oh? You’ve tested the other ones too?
@@cyberscrillaHave you tested the Ngrave? I can't find a review of it on your channel, but plenty on other channels. I'd really like to know your thoughts on it
and the safepal has the best variety of crypto it can store compared to other hard wallets.
Nice 👍 I’ve got the new safepal, but it’s not air gapped so I didn’t include it in this video
@@cyberscrilla yah that is why I use the old one and the pro. dont like the blue tooth connection on the new one.
@@johnwalsh4857 Fair enough
Installing firmware updates (after the first one) for Coldcard are a real hassle. Not much better for Blockstream Jade.
well I disagree with userfriendliness, my safepal is more userfriendly than my other ledger nano S non air gapped.
That’s good! I know for a fact many people think otherwise.
You should review the Foundation Passport. I've had both it and the Keystone since 2002 and the Passport is superior.
Plan to review it eventually. Curious how it’s “superior” to Keystone?
you can update the jade via bluetooth
Why EllipAd made in China .. just purchased one and on the box says Made in China 😮is it safe to use ? I
@@elenaryan4432 Most all wallets are made in China. And if they aren’t, they use parts from China. I’m not worried.
good video man
Thank for watching!
With ledger revealing tomfoolery I like the idea of no firmware updates, ever.
Then maybe something like Tangem is a good option for you. No firmware updates, just have to update the app
@@cyberscrillais there anything else that never requires firmware updates) this is my concern as well..
It the issue with updating due to you having the device plugged into you computer instead of plugging it directly into power????
In fhis new age global rtade one needs to be very weary products country of origin and ceo nationality. Certain governments have control over companies. Arculus is american company that is publicly traded and made in America
TY!
Thanks for watching
The more I dig into it and more I understand sophistication of crypto wallet "bank" robbers the more I understand why Blackrock made the move to Botcoin ETF and why most people will never truly own crupto direct. Majority will simply only think they have crypto but will not. Then huge number of bitcoin is and will be lost in dust or never ever uncooked wallets no one has access to. Bitcoin may and will still have its glory but eventually will disappear to some so far unknown future.
Mr Scrilla always bringing the fre🤭aking alpha🖕
Sorry, 100% not the best list.
Your missing to many top tier air-gapped wallets in this list like the Ngrave ZERO and the COLDCARD
Cool. You have your opinions. I have mine.