I try to take all the moving parts in the motion and boil it down to its simplest point. The last vid I put up today is the final product that began with this vid. Hope it helped and appreciate your comment, made my day!!
Thanks Bill you broke it down to my level, which made it simple without turning the door knob and getting the club wrapped around well all over the place I tried it just couldn’t get it. Thanks again for simplifying it. Golf shouldn’t be that complicated looking forward to more vids 👍
I have my thoughts why instructions are difficult but I will keep them in the safe for now. Yes it’s that simple, motion which is in balance and allows the forces to work on an object the correct way allows for all those positions we have been taught to occur naturally without thought. If you have to think to create a position to move keep coming back because Momma needs a new pair of shoes. Thanks Rick
Makes perfect sense! I’ve been doing a lot of this (more, probably, from trial and error over time) and knowing I’ve been sooo close for sooo long but not always understanding why it was working so well when it was working well. It was because the forces were in alignment with the club! Duh! Now that I am understanding this better I can be more consistent … No doubt! I really like the mental idea of the club flipping on itself. And then always get the hips clearing before the club comes through! Getting to the top and just leaving the club there while you start (turning) down I find very helpful. And another little thing that helps me is when I’m at the top, FEELING like my spine starts to point toward the target just a little bit. It’s kinda like a raring back that little bit extra (only no one could see this, it’s just a feeling). It’s really really coming together more and more Bill because I am understanding better why it works when it works. What I’ve done too is take countless chip shots and half shots making sure the turning of my hips towards the target is preceding the club coming through. This really helps (me) in the full swing. When I’m coming down toward the ball, I also like how the butt of the handle is aiming right at the ball. (You can kinda see this in your peripheral vision.) How it flips from there and smashes the ball is just the biggest mystery. 😂
It never has been hard Craig. We have always been taught to control the club in different position in different points in space. Well that is true but is only required to start the club in motion, after that we just let the club go where it naturally wants to go as we use our instincts to balance the task using the forces that are in line with the shaft. Result, free swinging club with very little effort. More effort only adds force to the club that isn’t in line with the shaft, that effort which is not needed gives us a day of struggle. No more struggle if you understand what I’m trying to convey in this vid. As simple as it Can get without worrying about positions. Positions are created by good motions which we all fall short recognizing. We spend worthless time to learn positions that’s why we struggled all our golfing careers. Never think positions , just motion.
Exactly the same motion we swing a whip 👌 You don't 'control the whip (apex) when in the backswing, it comes swinging forward on its own...😀 Bill, you have tinkered it down to common sense - when looking at Martin Aers I got more twirl in my head then on the club...and maybe JH felt the same..🤔 Top instruction Bill _ thanks !
Very Good! Wow! I appreciate your videos. Man your articulations and understanding is right where I am. Thanks, can't wait till my next round. I got it!
Yeah it was pretty bad Swift. Understanding what his intentions were cleared it up for me and today I played using his intentions and shot 78. Still not what I expected but I haven’t played in 10 months. Glad it cleared up things for you, did the same for me.
Bill you have clearly applied the principles of physics, forces and vectors to the golf swing. The club will remain inert until a force is applied to it. As you say get force applied right and you have a winning swing.
And we all have used the force against us John more times than not. Now we can actually get better just by application of force in line with the shaft.
Hi Bill congratulations. You definitely unlocked thé Ayers code. For me I use my trail little finger as I pin point to wind up my body and feel as if I am throwing the angular momentum of my club head over my trail shoulder for fantastic potential energy that my wind up body can easily transmit kinetic energy to my club head directly to and through my ball. I feel like I am a baseball batter to my ball as well as and infield underhanded thrower all rolled up in one. 😂Cheers 👍😃⛳️🥂
Thanks Thomas, if one boils the information down to the level of understanding, there isn’t much water left in the cup to drink. Makes the remaining information easy to swallow.
Bill you are correct sir, hate to keep bringing Bobby Jones up but he starts with cupped lead wrist and starts the handle first, this gets you to the top in a perfect position. You explained what martin couldn't or maybe wouldn't. Keep them coming im all in because i learned from Bobby jones and you are demonstrating exactly what he does. Admittedly bobby had a longer swing,he crosses the line at top but in a perfect position. I can't go that far but dont need to, its a very powerful and repeatable swing. One motion. One direction.
Hey Joe take what I show here and add it to a neutral spine that I talk about in most most recent vids and you got the best you can get. The downswing is always the trouble with most but once you understand neutral it becomes automatic back to the ball. Have a great weekend my friend!!!
Have you watched Dan Martin golf and his swing aid “ the pro”. Basically a tube on a string where you can only swing it correctly if you apply force down the string. ?
I taught Jackson angular momentum before buying the pro with his clubs just from the information from Mr Martin. He explains it very well and how it’s applicable.
Once you understand there is good and bad tension and forces then you can apply or not apply as needed. Now your getting somewhere and the club is too!!
Nice presentation of what Martin made difficult . Mike Austin was all about Keeping the club in the center just like you showed . Just like you said the handle has to start first to get the whole club to work properly . You sure would not try to keep attempting to wind it like you said . Totally screw the swing up. Marcus with Zen gives you a very nice presentation of exploring the golf swing . Take a peek, your recognize most all of it . I would bet most golfer do not have the ( Action parts ) ankles , knees and hips, torso , so ( the reaction) of the shoulders arms and hands club Frees up all of what your saying . ruclips.net/video/SJu9lGwIli4/видео.html Cheers my friend .
Spot on Ross, have watched many Zen vids and they are very informative. Simple simple simple, sir hard to stay in that mindset because everyone wants to make it anything but that.
Great explanation of the golf swing! People don’t need to pay tons of money for lessons when content like this exists 👍🏻 keep it coming! Love the “Let’s Go Brandon” sign 🤣🤣
Thank you Chrysalis!! Haven’t ran across one live person who voted for him. Suppose they are ashamed???? And also thanks for the compliment, made my day.
This isn't new information, just forgotten in the golf world. Ernest Jones told us this 100 years ago in his book swing the clubhead. He said the swing the club with your hands, do not apply leverage (which you describe as applying force). The body responds to the swinging of the clubhead.
Agree 100% Stephen. If you watched any of my vids I have always said there is and never will be something new. It’s all been done or said before. Thanks
I'd recommend you read the book if you haven't already. Both him and his book were considered the gold standard in teaching back in the day. For some reason the golf world moved to mechanics, position based teaching and his simple message has been all but forgotten. Swing the clubhead.
So glad you stopped referring to that stinking doorknob. It was mentioned one time on page 17 of “Five Lessons” to demonstrate the simplicity with which an explanation of the golf swing should be made; LIKE YOU JUST DID! I would note that when you fling the base back in this manner, the club will feel weightless and the swing feels effortless when you knock the bejeebers out of the ball.
I wish that Ayers would use much simpler language! Instead of Apex and Base-why not just clubhead and grip. And I still don't understand his vector. His swing system, though, is brilliant.
I won’t even go into vector pat, I understand it but I don’t think it adds anything to the method. Let me just say as an example, it’s the part of the motion when you want to gather all you have gathered and as a professional diver you want to enter the water with as much force as possible making the least amount of ripples. Don’t worry about it we ain’t divers. Just stick to what I e tried to show which are simple concepts that each and everyone of us can do as humans. I’m retired from instructing, what I mean by that is simple there are no more instructions necessary than what I’ve shown, but repeating them over and over in vids isn’t new it’s just a broken record that people should listen to and watch until they have it. I’m retired but not done with spinning the broken record.
Trust me my feelings aren’t the least bit hurt ☺️☺️☺️. I appreciate your concern. I could keep this up but it’s pretty obvious you have drank the kool aid. Good luck promoting your wackadoodle swing concept. You have a good day as well.
I don’t think it’s appropriate to push your political views in this forum, but that of course is your right. I too have that right. I certainly didn’t mean to tread on you. (It irks me that MAGA co-opted that phrase.). Also, trump lost in 2020, and his attempt to overturn a legitimate election is shameful. In any case, thanks very much.
@@jamesthornley5422 your not wanting me to be political yet you use this channel to verbalize your political views and state your position. It’s a sign in my back yard, your the woke don’t hurt my feelings indoctrinated cry baby that now make up the communist party in this country. Many democrats also challenged the election when they lost but you didn’t hear us patriots crying about it. If you like what you have today your the proof that the weak can be controlled. People like you can’t be reasoned with so why waste our time the program has taken over your brain to the point of no return. Want to speak about the border or are you fine with that as well. How about inflation that’s running wild or the EO’s that have put this country down to the level of a 3rd world country? What you people accuse others to be you are yourselves. Now once again don’t tread on my freedom of speech, you got your say right here on this channel or do you just want it one way like most of you desire. Have a good day, I’m sure your wish for a degenerate like myself is much different. Now fly away!
i watch you a lot. i really enjoy because i can understand what you are saying. will you please explain how the club can swing freely and we don't have to apply any force. if we don't apply any force how does the club reverse course from the top and apply any power what so ever. i heard you say one time that someone said you let your arms fall. you said that was stupid. you drive your arms down. well isn't that force? not trying to be a smartass just trying to understand how to hit it without hitting it.
Applying force must be in a straight line abs. Any side to side force instead of up and down force is not in a straight line which is defined as the line from the club head, shaft arms which points to the center of mass is the desired objective. Pushing on the side of the shaft is side to side. So in short the faster you can move your arms down from the top of your swing and the turning of the upper body to get the club back out in front of you creates the speed we all are looking for. Our arms are connected to our shoulders which are ball and sockets which move up and down not side to side which applies unwanted force On the shaft because we aren’t moving how are body is designed. Hope that helped!
@@Wooduck yes it help a lot. i guess the only thing you need to sync up is the dropping of the arms and turning. i guess that is the part where you lead it then from the top it leads you?? right?
@@abs828 most people start the turning of the chest to get back to the ball, thus, putting force on the side of the shaft and the good ole over the top is born. When you turn on the backswing there should be a triangle which is formed by the hands and elbows. The club and hands need to be in the middle of the triangle which is also the middle of the chest. All that is needed from that position is push the hands straight down which lines the club and arms to be in a straight line. Now just turn back to the ball while your arms and club continue to drop to the ground. Yep it requires timing which you can teach yourself to do with practice and simply DOING. I don’t believe the lead arm needs to be straight either just let it fold as the trail arm folds, there’s your triangle and leverage for a faster moving club head.
Your explanations just make sense to me, and I have been watching RUclips golf videos for a while. 😊
I try to take all the moving parts in the motion and boil it down to its simplest point. The last vid I put up today is the final product that began with this vid. Hope it helped and appreciate your comment, made my day!!
Thanks Bill you broke it down to my level, which made it simple without turning the door knob and getting the club wrapped around well all over the place I tried it just couldn’t get it. Thanks again for simplifying it. Golf shouldn’t be that complicated looking forward to more vids 👍
I have my thoughts why instructions are difficult but I will keep them in the safe for now. Yes it’s that simple, motion which is in balance and allows the forces to work on an object the correct way allows for all those positions we have been taught to occur naturally without thought. If you have to think to create a position to move keep coming back because
Momma needs a new pair of shoes. Thanks Rick
Makes perfect sense! I’ve been doing a lot of this (more, probably, from trial and error over time) and knowing I’ve been sooo close for sooo long but not always understanding why it was working so well when it was working well. It was because the forces were in alignment with the club! Duh!
Now that I am understanding this better I can be more consistent … No doubt!
I really like the mental idea of the club flipping on itself. And then always get the hips clearing before the club comes through!
Getting to the top and just leaving the club there while you start (turning) down I find very helpful. And another little thing that helps me is when I’m at the top, FEELING like my spine starts to point toward the target just a little bit. It’s kinda like a raring back that little bit extra (only no one could see this, it’s just a feeling). It’s really really coming together more and more Bill because I am understanding better why it works when it works.
What I’ve done too is take countless chip shots and half shots making sure the turning of my hips towards the target is preceding the club coming through. This really helps (me) in the full swing.
When I’m coming down toward the ball, I also like how the butt of the handle is aiming right at the ball. (You can kinda see this in your peripheral vision.) How it flips from there and smashes the ball is just the biggest mystery. 😂
It never has been hard Craig. We have always been taught to control the club in different position in different points in space. Well that is true but is only required to start the club in motion, after that we just let the club go where it naturally wants to go as we use our instincts to balance the task using the forces that are in line with the shaft. Result, free swinging club with very little effort. More effort only adds force to the club that isn’t in line with the shaft, that effort which is not needed gives us a day of struggle.
No more struggle if you understand what I’m trying to convey in this vid. As simple as it
Can get without worrying about positions. Positions are created by good motions which we all fall short recognizing. We spend worthless time to learn positions that’s why we struggled all our golfing careers. Never think positions , just motion.
This guy absolutely knows what he is talking about people..I really enjoyed this..Hell of a job sir!
Thanks Tony, humbled by your comment.
Exactly the same motion we swing a whip 👌
You don't 'control the whip (apex) when in the backswing, it comes swinging forward on its own...😀
Bill, you have tinkered it down to common sense - when looking at Martin Aers I got more twirl in my head then on the club...and maybe JH felt the same..🤔
Top instruction Bill _ thanks !
Thanks RT , I have to break it down to where I can understand it and hopefully at my level of understanding others can relate to the subject matter.
Great stuff Bill & Joe ❤
Thanks Heg
Thanks for simplifying Bill.
Always try to dumb it down to where I can understand KB hope it helped.
Very Good! Wow! I appreciate your videos. Man your articulations and understanding is right where I am. Thanks, can't wait till my next round. I got it!
Check my last few vids out ek, they should be the cherry on top of the cake you’re looking for.
Awesome.The best golf lesson video I have watched. Cleared up so many misconceptions I had.I too can have shot a hundred trying to swing like Martin.
Yeah it was pretty bad Swift. Understanding what his intentions were cleared it up for me and today I played using his intentions and shot 78. Still not what I expected but I haven’t played in 10 months. Glad it cleared up things for you, did the same for me.
Bill you have clearly applied the principles of physics, forces and vectors to the golf swing. The club will remain inert until a force is applied to it. As you say get force applied right and you have a winning swing.
And we all have used the force against us John more times than not. Now we can actually get better just by application of force in line with the shaft.
Hi Bill congratulations. You definitely unlocked thé Ayers code.
For me I use my trail little finger as I pin point to wind up my body and feel as if I am throwing the angular momentum of my club head over my trail shoulder for fantastic potential energy that my wind up body can easily transmit kinetic energy to my club head directly to and through my ball. I feel like I am a baseball batter to my ball as well as and infield underhanded thrower all rolled up in one. 😂Cheers 👍😃⛳️🥂
Thanks Thomas, if one boils the information down to the level of understanding, there isn’t much water left in the cup to drink. Makes the remaining information easy to swallow.
Bill you are correct sir, hate to keep bringing Bobby Jones up but he starts with cupped lead wrist and starts the handle first, this gets you to the top in a perfect position. You explained what martin couldn't or maybe wouldn't. Keep them coming im all in because i learned from Bobby jones and you are demonstrating exactly what he does. Admittedly bobby had a longer swing,he crosses the line at top but in a perfect position. I can't go that far but dont need to, its a very powerful and repeatable swing. One motion. One direction.
And what more could a player want or even look for ag? Right!!!!
U finally simplified it Mr Bill . Thank You
Thanks Joe glad you could understand it.
Rogue golf hat looks marvelous Bill 🐊🏌️♂️⛳️
Thanks Gator it came from a good friend as you know.
Another great program my friend. Be well.
Thank you 🙏
Thanks again Mr Bill I always seem to have trouble on the downswing
Hey Joe take what I show here and add it to a neutral spine that I talk about in most most recent vids and you got the best you can get.
The downswing is always the trouble with most but once you understand neutral it becomes automatic back to the ball. Have a great weekend my friend!!!
@@Wooduck Thank you
Thank you for the video Bill this is good stuff!
Glad to hear that Dan, hope it helps.
Have you watched Dan Martin golf and his swing aid “ the pro”. Basically a tube on a string where you can only swing it correctly if you apply force down the string. ?
Yep I’ve seen it and JB has one.
Keep watching and I’ll send a video for Bill to attach to this video
I taught Jackson angular momentum before buying the pro with his clubs just from the information from Mr Martin. He explains it very well and how it’s applicable.
Just like a catapult. Also seems to be a sure-fire way to eliminate tension on the takeaway. (which is a swing killer) Makes a lot of sense.
Once you understand there is good and bad tension and forces then you can apply or not apply as needed. Now your getting somewhere and the club is too!!
Just got back from the range. That's power I thought I didn't have in me anymore. Great tip Bill, it works!
@@funkster007 good for you funkster, the more you repeat it the faster it becomes ingrained, then…..no thinking!!!
good explaination.
Thanks EBell much appreciated
Nice presentation of what Martin made difficult . Mike Austin was all about Keeping the club in the center just like you showed . Just like you said the handle has to start first to get the whole
club to work properly . You sure would not try to keep attempting to wind it like you said . Totally screw the swing up. Marcus with Zen gives you a very nice presentation of exploring the golf swing . Take a peek, your recognize most all of it . I would bet most golfer do not have the ( Action parts ) ankles , knees and hips, torso , so ( the reaction) of the shoulders arms and hands club Frees up all of what your saying . ruclips.net/video/SJu9lGwIli4/видео.html Cheers my friend .
Spot on Ross, have watched many Zen vids and they are very informative. Simple simple simple, sir hard to stay in that mindset because everyone wants to make it anything but that.
Great explanation of the golf swing! People don’t need to pay tons of money for lessons when content like this exists 👍🏻 keep it coming! Love the “Let’s Go Brandon” sign 🤣🤣
Thank you Chrysalis!! Haven’t ran across one live person who voted for him. Suppose they are ashamed???? And also thanks for the compliment, made my day.
That’s probably because all the people who voted for him are dead 😂 And I’m glad! Like I said, your content is TOP tier!
This isn't new information, just forgotten in the golf world. Ernest Jones told us this 100 years ago in his book swing the clubhead. He said the swing the club with your hands, do not apply leverage (which you describe as applying force). The body responds to the swinging of the clubhead.
Agree 100% Stephen. If you watched any of my vids I have always said there is and never will be something new. It’s all been done or said before. Thanks
I'd recommend you read the book if you haven't already. Both him and his book were considered the gold standard in teaching back in the day. For some reason the golf world moved to mechanics, position based teaching and his simple message has been all but forgotten. Swing the clubhead.
Thank you
Your welcome hope it helped.
Mr Bill does the same apply for pitches and chips? Base first than apex. Thanks
Base has always got to come first as the apex catches up with the hands.
And we thought Channel Lock was difficult. It is still a game "with a ball and a stick"!
Channel lock was difficult because we were put in an unbalance position to begin with and the stick and ball position accelerated the problem.
So glad you stopped referring to that stinking doorknob. It was mentioned one time on page 17 of “Five Lessons” to demonstrate the simplicity with which an explanation of the golf swing should be made; LIKE YOU JUST DID! I would note that when you fling the base back in this manner, the club will feel weightless and the swing feels effortless when you knock the bejeebers out of the ball.
And that’s the truth 52, intentions are necessary only to perform what is needed not what it looks like.
@@Wooduck otherwise we’d all be swinging like Jim Furyk or Matt Wolff…their great, but no thanks.
I wish that Ayers would use much simpler language! Instead of Apex and Base-why not just clubhead and grip. And I still don't understand his vector. His swing system, though, is brilliant.
I won’t even go into vector pat, I understand it but I don’t think it adds anything to the method. Let me just say as an example, it’s the part of the motion when you want to gather all you have gathered and as a professional diver you want to enter the water with as much force as possible making the least amount of ripples. Don’t worry about it we ain’t divers. Just stick to what I e tried to show which are simple concepts that each and everyone of us can do as humans. I’m retired from instructing, what I mean by that is simple there are no more instructions necessary than what I’ve shown, but repeating them over and over in vids isn’t new it’s just a broken record that people should listen to and watch until they have it. I’m retired but not done with spinning the broken record.
Let's Go
Brandon!
And it ain’t the White House again!!!
Trust me my feelings aren’t the least bit hurt ☺️☺️☺️. I appreciate your concern. I could keep this up but it’s pretty obvious you have drank the kool aid. Good luck promoting your wackadoodle swing concept. You have a good day as well.
Thanks James see we can agree on one thing? A good day that is.
Good info, interesting. Lose the Lets Go Brandon sign......
Glad you liked the information, but don’t tread on my freedom of speech!! Thanks
I don’t think it’s appropriate to push your political views in this forum, but that of course is your right. I too have that right. I certainly didn’t mean to tread on you. (It irks me that MAGA co-opted that phrase.). Also, trump lost in 2020, and his attempt to overturn a legitimate election is shameful. In any case, thanks very much.
@@jamesthornley5422 your not wanting me to be political yet you use this channel to verbalize your political views and state your position. It’s a sign in my back yard, your the woke don’t hurt my feelings indoctrinated cry baby that now make up the communist party in this country. Many democrats also challenged the election when they lost but you didn’t hear us patriots crying about it. If you like what you have today your the proof that the weak can be controlled. People like you can’t be reasoned with so why waste our time the program has taken over your brain to the point of no return. Want to speak about the border or are you fine with that as well. How about inflation that’s running wild or the EO’s that have put this country down to the level of a 3rd world country? What you people accuse others to be you are yourselves. Now once again don’t tread on my freedom of speech, you got your say right here on this channel or do you just want it one way like most of you desire. Have a good day, I’m sure your wish for a degenerate like myself is much different. Now fly away!
Good tips but Dark Brandon kicks ass💙💪⛳️
Suckers are born every day, how does it feel.
i watch you a lot. i really enjoy because i can understand what you are saying. will you please explain how the club can swing freely and we don't have to apply any force. if we don't apply any force how does the club reverse course from the top and apply any power what so ever. i heard you say one time that someone said you let your arms fall. you said that was stupid. you drive your arms down. well isn't that force? not trying to be a smartass just trying to understand how to hit it without hitting it.
Applying force must be in a straight line abs. Any side to side force instead of up and down force is not in a straight line which is defined as the line from the club head, shaft arms which points to the center of mass is the desired objective. Pushing on the side of the shaft is side to side. So in short the faster you can move your arms down from the top of your swing and the turning of the upper body to get the club back out in front of you creates the speed we all are looking for. Our arms are connected to our shoulders which are ball and sockets which move up and down not side to side which applies unwanted force
On the shaft because we aren’t moving how are body is designed. Hope that helped!
@@Wooduck yes it help a lot. i guess the only thing you need to sync up is the dropping of the arms and turning. i guess that is the part where you lead it then from the top it leads you?? right?
@@abs828 most people start the turning of the chest to get back to the ball, thus, putting force on the side of the shaft and the good ole over the top is born. When you turn on the backswing there should be a triangle which is formed by the hands and elbows. The club and hands need to be in the middle of the triangle which is also the middle of the chest. All that is needed from that position is push the hands straight down which lines the club and arms to be in a straight line. Now just turn back to the ball while your arms and club continue to drop to the ground. Yep it requires timing which you can teach yourself to do with practice and simply DOING. I don’t believe the lead arm needs to be straight either just let it fold as the trail arm folds, there’s your triangle and leverage for a faster moving club head.