Mephelis in Shadow Generations is so interesting because the way I saw the character in his original outing was that he was overconfident because not only he is invincible with him having to be sealed away to be stopped but also whatever he did in the future didn't matter as he'll still exist in the present hence why he messes with Shadow just because he can and as a act of revenge. But after the plot that game having his existence be erased from the timeline, he is made a desperate mess in white space as he knows if he fails this time then it's truly over. I like this as well because it actually gives him a proper comeuppance for his actions with him feeling the desperation and pain that Sonic's friends felt after he killed the blue blur himself and transformed into Solaris.
Probably one of the most memorable villains due to writing alone. It is interesting to me that Mephiles not only embodies Solaris, but is also supposed to serve as a representation of Shadow's "Shadow". His distaste in humanity for letting Maria die and anger torwards people for thinking only in their own interests. Basically he embodies the nihilism that Shadow once embraced in SA2 as a whole. Which that destruction and oblivion were the only righteous paths left. Black Doom did expand on that aspect of Shadow's character as well, but I feel like his angle is more torwards making Shadow embrace his alien heritage and abandoning his more human side. Rather than destruction for the sake of destruction. Mephiles to me just works as a way to truly showcase how much Shadow has grown after first meeting Sonic.
@@mega6662 No rings, mephiles reacts faster and you need to stun him in the middle of a combo before either kicking him to the floor or kicking him to the spheres like you would normally.
Consider: Sonic '06 is now legally old enough to drink. Mephiles now has a mean to sink his sorrow after that emotionnal damage Shadow inflicted on him with that cold line
Robbie is a solid fit, they just didn’t have him keep his voice deep and gravelly enough for entire lines. At the beginning of lines when he’s speaking quietly he’s a dead ringer for Dan Green, it’s just when he starts getting louder that it becomes obvious it’s a different guy. At the end of the day he probably didn’t get very much voice direction since it’s just one little boss battle with a character we’re not gonna see again for a long time, if ever. No idea why people are getting pressed over it lol
‘Twas my first Sonic game. My big brother decided to get me it for Christmas that year. Despite being trash, it holds a special place in my heart. If you were to try and make me hate the game, it’s no use. ;)
4:43 I don't get the dislike towards Daymond's performance. I think he sounds close enough to the original actor Also, it's kind of ironic that Shadow is using the same chaos emerald that Memphis used in 06
I'll always prefer Dan Green's performance, but Robbie did a great job at voicing him, especially when he's getting desperate to escape his timeline purgatory. Now Mephiles has 2 great voice actors
Something neat about the music is that Shadow Gens flips the music order around. Mephiles Second Boss Theme is Phase 1 while his first boss theme is Phase 2
He cant because there are no memories, Mephiles never existed. Mephiles only knows about Shadow because he existed in past present and future and is even aware that he himself has been erased from the timeline. But for all that it's worth they never actually met
What a wild cameo that will probably never happen again but it's still cool we were alive to see it. also rip to that VA who did this terrible Omega voice
@@ataladin87 I never mentioned the graphics. I'm referring to presentation as a whole. The animation snapping is trash and the whole thing looks like a tech demo
Not even a contest on which fight is better but the gens fight was just such an amazing experience. Gonna be honest I haven’t even played the og and even when project 06 releases the final update with the boss it still may not be as goated as this. Not even ChaosX’s fault
Don't say which fight is better if you haven't even played the original to compare. It is like saying Apple are better than oranges while never having orange
I played the original I can attest to this. The og fight is basically a slog to kill Mephiles enemies that are super easy to destroy. After that, you just gotta mindlessly attack Mephiles. It’s so boring, such a shame for such a great antagonist with an actually cool boss gimmick in theory.
@zero1zerolast393 If we're being fair, we can see the 2 fights in this video. So while they may not know how it plays, they can compare the two based off of how they look
I loved this fight, I love that they made Mephiles aware of his loss in 06, that this is his last chance etc. The only thing that I didnt really like was the voice (other than the "I want to EXIST" line, that goes pretty hard)
I am so glad that Mephiles returned in SXSG no offense to the new voice by Robbie but I still prefer Dan Greens performance as the character especially the evil laugh he gives him in Sonic 06 👍💜😈
Mephiles reminds me of Goku Black from Dragon Ball Super they both uses some elses body, they both want to destroy the universe and they both killed the mc of their series and they both treat themselves as gods and are ones Mephiles turning out to be Solaris.
I’m happy I wasn’t the only one who played the fight the way you did here. I (regretfully) turned off control hints so I didn’t know you could doom blast him into the pillars…tho I think ignoring that made the fight 100x better. Also if you get chaos control in the first phase and he goes to use his beam sword thing you can chaos control, do damage, THEN chaos spear to deal even more damage.
@@KyndlingStoneCB I believe he's come back for a few roles here and there since then. I still understand if it just didnt end up working out, but I find it strange that they didnt direct Robbie to sound like him at all. He gives a great performance but it sounds more fitting for Infinite or even Eclipse than it does for a character who's voice is pretty iconic.
I never got to the original battle with Mephiles in '06 as I never got any further than Sonic's story during my first and only playthrough. Stupid video store X360 with no hard drive... 😠😡🤬👿💔🖤
Mephelis in Shadow Generations is so interesting because the way I saw the character in his original outing was that he was overconfident because not only he is invincible with him having to be sealed away to be stopped but also whatever he did in the future didn't matter as he'll still exist in the present hence why he messes with Shadow just because he can and as a act of revenge.
But after the plot that game having his existence be erased from the timeline, he is made a desperate mess in white space as he knows if he fails this time then it's truly over. I like this as well because it actually gives him a proper comeuppance for his actions with him feeling the desperation and pain that Sonic's friends felt after he killed the blue blur himself and transformed into Solaris.
IT'S MEPHILES
@@Axolotldagoat No it’s Memphis Tennessee and he rules the tilted towers
@@Mo-. ...
@@Mo-. Fortnite has ruined kids man
@@Axolotldagoat I haven’t played Fortnite since 2019 it’s a snapcube reference 🤦♂️
Probably one of the most memorable villains due to writing alone.
It is interesting to me that Mephiles not only embodies Solaris, but is also supposed to serve as a representation of Shadow's "Shadow".
His distaste in humanity for letting Maria die and anger torwards people for thinking only in their own interests.
Basically he embodies the nihilism that Shadow once embraced in SA2 as a whole. Which that destruction and oblivion were the only righteous paths left.
Black Doom did expand on that aspect of Shadow's character as well, but I feel like his angle is more torwards making Shadow embrace his alien heritage and abandoning his more human side. Rather than destruction for the sake of destruction.
Mephiles to me just works as a way to truly showcase how much Shadow has grown after first meeting Sonic.
Mephiles: you will never reach me up here!
Shadow: *uses doom form to swim up the pillars*
Mephiles: wait, you can fly?!
Shadow: ..... Jump Good..
Falling with style as they say
Man, I really love the hard mode version of this fight for Shadow Gens.
What are the differences with the normal one?
@@mega6662 it's harder
Tbh I could barely tell the difference, I was pretty disappointed
@@mega6662 No rings, mephiles reacts faster and you need to stun him in the middle of a combo before either kicking him to the floor or kicking him to the spheres like you would normally.
i dont remember the normal one, but in this fight you dont have rings so you cant take a hit
Consider: Sonic '06 is now legally old enough to drink.
Mephiles now has a mean to sink his sorrow after that emotionnal damage Shadow inflicted on him with that cold line
*only in other countries, can’t drink in most US states
@@shrimpman. "only" in most countries outside the us
too bad every other country sucks balls huh
“My name is memphis tenesse.”
What is this meme about ?
@@LRShar It's from a Sonic 06 voiceover by Snapcube. This is Mephiles' most popular line from the voiceover
@@dlo8374unfunny.
And I am part lizard
@@ChaoticEvo"It's nice to yoroshiku onegaishimasu as they say in Nippon" - Memphis Tenesse... I love that fandub.
I like to think Mephiles was surprised to see Shadow’s Doom Morph mode. He never could comprehend Shadow’s true abilities, even in the original game.
His weakness
Light lol
"WAIT, MY BLADE, CAN YOU- ARGH!"
Hearing the voices back to back Robbie did a good job with mephiles imo.
Literally people are just bias about Dan Green. Not even saying Dan Green is bad, bur saying that Robbie does a great job as well.
@@KyndlingStoneCBRobbie’s voice doesn’t fit Mephiles tho
@@KyndlingStoneCBong, they’re sucking him off so bad to the point where they made a whole ass mod that replaces his voice with an ai
@@KyndlingStoneCBnot bias just annoyed someone still working and available wasn’t brought back for no reason but money
Robbie is a solid fit, they just didn’t have him keep his voice deep and gravelly enough for entire lines. At the beginning of lines when he’s speaking quietly he’s a dead ringer for Dan Green, it’s just when he starts getting louder that it becomes obvious it’s a different guy. At the end of the day he probably didn’t get very much voice direction since it’s just one little boss battle with a character we’re not gonna see again for a long time, if ever. No idea why people are getting pressed over it lol
It's cool that they essentially just took his fights from 06, combined them into one, and added a bit to make it more dynamic.
0:50 "How'd he know?!?"
Read this in CalebCity's voice
Comment under this if you actually played OG Sonic 06. I’m curious.
sonic 2006 is my favorite sonic game
‘Twas my first Sonic game. My big brother decided to get me it for Christmas that year. Despite being trash, it holds a special place in my heart. If you were to try and make me hate the game, it’s no use. ;)
@ademers1679 no way dude me too
Yeah I've played the OG to see why everyone hated it, was curious, but after playing and beating it myself, I've had some much fun with it.
I have played Sonic 06, its been quite a long time since i last played it though
4:43 I don't get the dislike towards Daymond's performance. I think he sounds close enough to the original actor
Also, it's kind of ironic that Shadow is using the same chaos emerald that Memphis used in 06
I'll always prefer Dan Green's performance, but Robbie did a great job at voicing him, especially when he's getting desperate to escape his timeline purgatory. Now Mephiles has 2 great voice actors
both actors are great! in they own way of course
Something neat about the music is that Shadow Gens flips the music order around. Mephiles Second Boss Theme is Phase 1 while his first boss theme is Phase 2
0:21 Shadow:
Omega! Count how many grain of sand is in this room!
O6 shadow ending went hard
Imagine if shadow got his memories back after killing mephiles
He cant because there are no memories, Mephiles never existed. Mephiles only knows about Shadow because he existed in past present and future and is even aware that he himself has been erased from the timeline. But for all that it's worth they never actually met
I am loving the semi-perfect ilblis form he takes🎉
What a wild cameo that will probably never happen again but it's still cool we were alive to see it.
also rip to that VA who did this terrible Omega voice
OMEGA COUNT HOW MANY MOUTHS HE HAS
Okay. . .
..YEAH EXACTLY, YOU'VE GOT NO MOUTHS, *BITCH*
The glow up is absolutely insane. Sometimes I forget just how ungodly shity 06 looks.
In 06s defense for 2006 it was incredibly impressive and it was put out as one of the early games for the 360.
I wouldn’t say shitty. It was amazing for its time. Look at how COD 3 looked in 2006.
It was acceptable, not amazing. @@Zillennialll
My god, there's no way you're complaining about limited graphics.
@@ataladin87 I never mentioned the graphics. I'm referring to presentation as a whole. The animation snapping is trash and the whole thing looks like a tech demo
Not even a contest on which fight is better but the gens fight was just such an amazing experience. Gonna be honest I haven’t even played the og and even when project 06 releases the final update with the boss it still may not be as goated as this. Not even ChaosX’s fault
the cutscenes make all the difference
Don't say which fight is better if you haven't even played the original to compare. It is like saying Apple are better than oranges while never having orange
I played the original I can attest to this. The og fight is basically a slog to kill Mephiles enemies that are super easy to destroy. After that, you just gotta mindlessly attack Mephiles. It’s so boring, such a shame for such a great antagonist with an actually cool boss gimmick in theory.
@zero1zerolast393 If we're being fair, we can see the 2 fights in this video. So while they may not know how it plays, they can compare the two based off of how they look
@@QuinManGuy That or you can Just watch and not give an option. That not hard either
His name is Memphis Tennessee
"Welcome to tilted towers"
He's part lizard
And he will make you respect his name
7:41 Shadow kicked Mephiles' ass!
This the best Sonic game
3:40 Rouge and Omega are like, oh shit were done? Ok let me just waltz up here and ok there we go.
As much as I absolutely adore Dan Green as Mephiles I still really liked Robbie Daymond too, he definitely did the character justice in my eyes!
I actually dig the new Mephiles voice.
Same I feel Robbie's performance is a bit slept on but not to say that greens voice is bad there both really good
I loved this fight, I love that they made Mephiles aware of his loss in 06, that this is his last chance etc. The only thing that I didnt really like was the voice (other than the "I want to EXIST" line, that goes pretty hard)
I am so glad that Mephiles returned in SXSG no offense to the new voice by Robbie but I still prefer Dan Greens performance as the character especially the evil laugh he gives him in Sonic 06 👍💜😈
Mephiles reminds me of Goku Black from Dragon Ball Super they both uses some elses body, they both want to destroy the universe and they both killed the mc of their series and they both treat themselves as gods and are ones Mephiles turning out to be Solaris.
It's so awkward mepheiles has no mouth and cuz of that it's weird when he talks
Idk about you, but it makes sense he doesnt have a mouth cuz shadows dont have mouths lol
Neither does omega but I don’t see you complaining
@@TitaniumWerewolf you know who else doesnt have a mouth? Solaris 😭😭
@@ztupidiezmartie6803 a chair doesn’t have a mouth either!
Thats the thing. He is meant to be weird, menacing. Always two steps ahead. So Im not mad.
I’m happy I wasn’t the only one who played the fight the way you did here. I (regretfully) turned off control hints so I didn’t know you could doom blast him into the pillars…tho I think ignoring that made the fight 100x better. Also if you get chaos control in the first phase and he goes to use his beam sword thing you can chaos control, do damage, THEN chaos spear to deal even more damage.
i dont now that you can do that!
2:01 i heard dark gaia scream.
hello, how did you install these games on your PC, or did you play on consoles?
No offense to the new VA for Mephiles, but Dan Green is a really hard act to follow. ✌️
Ngl I like his generations voice way better
Sega should remake sonic 06
Oh Wow😮
*Mephiles
Why did they change english va of mephiles in generations?
Dan Green’s retired. Simple as that.
@@KyndlingStoneCB Dude still does voice acting, he was literally in the recent Code Geass anime
@@KyndlingStoneCB I believe he's come back for a few roles here and there since then. I still understand if it just didnt end up working out, but I find it strange that they didnt direct Robbie to sound like him at all. He gives a great performance but it sounds more fitting for Infinite or even Eclipse than it does for a character who's voice is pretty iconic.
They don’t use the 4kids voice cast outside of eggman anymore.
@@seematahir5970he does fit, the direction was the issue like you said
IT'S MEPHILES
wasn’t a fan of the boss fight in gens but it was awesome he returned
I never got to the original battle with Mephiles in '06 as I never got any further than Sonic's story during my first and only playthrough. Stupid video store X360 with no hard drive... 😠😡🤬👿💔🖤